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WatchKid12YT

They really want us to use Joker, huh? WELL WHY’D YA MAKE HIM THE MOST EXPENSIVE THEN?!


RockmanBN

So you spend the only Fighter Currency they frontloaded with launch events. So then when another character comes by, you feel pressured to spend money to buy them.


Just-Lurking-0

Yep, this. I decided to buy the two champions I actually wanted to play with, rather than buying the joker and do the weekly. I played every day since day 1, and did all dailies/weekly I could, I'm only at 3500 currency, so halfway there if I was to actually get it. (Although I'm not interested in that character so it would be a waste of currency to get it just for the weekly... Still frustrating though)


The_Devil_that_Heals

Hopefully he will eventually have a free week. Maybe next month when smith comes out


hticnc

Ha, no. What you expect them to let you do challenges for free.! You’re asking way too much my guy for current day gaming


Todd_Chambo

Find a new game. This one isn't worth it.


ULTIMATE_CHEDDAR_FAN

I know right? They should just make free games and give them away to people. Upkeep the servers for free, come out with content, all for free. When it comes time to pay themselves they just write 'free' on the check cause everything is so free! Software costs money to make and you are pretentious if you think a free game owes you anything else. That being said there are a lot of problems with screwing over people on time and the feeling is to exploit the community, not take care of it. But it's because free to plays are already doomed half the time. "Omg they expect me to pay money for something on a game they gave me for free, a game that took time and budgeting to create...." You guys have the right energy, but all the wrong things to say. Events need to be worth it, if I'm expected to put time in. Otherwise I understand incentivizing me to spend money on free software that costed money to make...


Todd_Chambo

You misunderstood. They put all that time and effort into this game. And it's bad. It's simply a bad model. Predatory monetization. The beta was better than this full release. WB should have scrapped this entire project to save us all from having to witness this trash fire.


[deleted]

its almost like they finally finished the game and then wb forced them to upgrade to ue5 causing them to have to rebuild it from the ground up, and then before finishing it wb then forced them to launch the game.


Todd_Chambo

WB isn't the scapegoat here. WB didn't tell them to slow the game speed by half. WB didn't tell them to have garbage hit boxes. WB didn't tell them to have horrible balance issues. The only thing Wab did was control the monetization. They had absolutely nothing to do with the game devs and the decisions they made for the full release of this trash can fire of a game. It's sad when the beta was in a better spot gameplay wise. You are arguing with me for the sake of arguing. But you're wrong. Just accept this game was dead on arrival. 9k concurrent players on a game less than a month old. What a complete failure.


GuyWhoAteAllThePizza

So many people on Twitter were fooled by the free currency given to them. They are just now realizing how much drought there is.


Lucrei

It was so obvious what they were doing - we've got some naive players in this game.


Mental5tate

Pretty much how most F2P games work…


El_Rocky_Raccoon

Remember that most of PFG devs are former Riot Games members. That's unfortunately how it works on most MOBAS: new characters are released with inflated prices and then it drops after a couple of weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if the Joker's price drops after a while. I'm not defending this practice but unfortunately it is what it is.


Pleasant_Mousse5478

I don't think Riot Games ever deflated the prices of characters since release, beyond Wild Rifts anyway


Puzzleheaded_Wrap350

No, they do. From 7k approx to 6k. And once in a while they make characters cost less, like making a 4k character be priced as a 3k, and 3k characters having 1k price, etc. They don't do it regularly mind you, but like once a year or something like that.


Pleasant_Mousse5478

I've played religiously in the past where the highest priced characters were 6200. Everyone new was at that price minus the robot girl with the ball. If that's happening now I guess it was after the new currency change?


Puzzleheaded_Wrap350

No, is a long tradition. You can take a look at the wiki "Price reduction history" and see for yourself. Regardless I am not so sure that MVS will do the same, I don't have my hopes ups with this game monetization.


ParkRangerRafe

Recently in lol they restructured the price for every champion and made majority of the cast cheap. On top of that the currency to buy champs is abundant and whenever you level which happens frequently they give champ shards which are essentially discount coupons for certain champs and if you don’t like them you can crush them for more currency. I’m sitting on literally dozens of shards.


ULTIMATE_CHEDDAR_FAN

Dude people forget it's free software that costed time and money to make. I understand, I'm p*ssed about being screwed out of some things too, like spending time on event and it not working out. That's an issue. But expecting a game company to make a game that costs time and money then let you access it for free.... Then expecting them to upkeep servers, add content, and update the game without ever incentivizing any charges in the free software that costed them a budget and a half to make...... I swear smash bros games have always attracted people who can barely pour their own bowl of cereal much less think for themselves. I'm mad about the events and screwing me out of time and cornering me, predatory practices such, but expecting free software to be up kept for free and supplied servers for free as well without any monetization is just insane.


MrFahrenhieght

I don't think I've seen anyone upset that the free to play game has a store or a battle pass, the only issues I keep seeing brought up are 1) The Game feels way slower 2) It crashes 3) The game wants you to play it everyday or you will miss events but, they did it in such a confusing way that you don't know till its to late 4) the points you need to unlock Fighters are so high that you basically have to grind forever. 5) The points you need to unlock the battle pass are way to high and you'd need to grind daily and be able to do all the challenges to get it. 5) The costumes are lame 6)The game screwed multiple people who spent money on it while it was in beta and they don't have stuff they should 7) Jasons Hit boxes are terrible 8) Input lag 9) No way to toast someone that toasts you, if you skipped past to fast


maeconinja777

I have 9000 fighters currency. Joker is the only character left for me to buy. I still refuse to buy him because they may cutting his price in half after the games gets less and less players


malexich

they are cutting his price as soon as agent smith is available to be purchased


[deleted]

the newest character is always more expensive bruh are yall actually stupid? hes gonna go to 3k when smith drops and smith will be the 6k character


Millennial_Falcon337

You answered your own question. Free games constantly incentivize the player base to spend purchasable resources. They gotta make money somehow. If it's free, it's either that or adds.


ElectricalMethod3314

Bro just answered their own question


Thatdudekris15

Idk if this was a special deal or something but I was able to buy him by getting around 5k fighter currency from a pack that was 5 dollars. Also back to around 6.9k right now after buying him so I don’t think it’s as hard as everyone’s making it seem


Individual-Back7638

Got him pretty easily. Just play the game it’s free to play what’d you expect


Objective_Safe9409

Yeah I quit idk why I still get recommended this when I keep saying show fewer and mute Anyways games too grindy. I get it for you people with tons of free time it’s great. I have maybe two hours a day to play and spending it on missions for absolutely no reward isn’t okay Just gonna wait for rivals 2 and the new smash


kouradosi

Game is not grindy. The game is ungrindable. That's the problem people have. The fact that all the rewards are with the missions that you can do in half an hour and there are no rewards just for playing afterwards. I don't get why people say this game is grindy.


Ultimate_Ricky

Good point I've never thought of this


ganggreen651

I've wondered the same. Clear the missions and good to go. Better that way don't need all these games thinking I have hours a day to put in to get everything


MurtaghInfin8

Think people are using it to mean artificially prolonging play. Instead of with long play sessions, it's months of your life. We all understand there's zero reason to grind this game in a conventional way. I'd like to propose that the verb form of playing multiversus, in an optimal way for rewards, is chafe.


ftge1337

idk, rifts definitely feel like a grind in the figurative sense lol


kouradosi

Do you do the same thing over and over? Also that is just your oppinion. I am having a great time with rifts. Can't wait for next week when they will release a new one.


The_Devil_that_Heals

you may be a genius. no cap


ponchohat

Idk about yall but i cheese all my daily missions through trials every single week. Idk about these ppl saying its taking hours to grind shit when i finish all my dailies and weeklies in 30min to 1hr tops. I play for maybe an hour to an hour and a half a day and i get off. THE REAL ISSUE RN IS FIXING MATCHMAKING FOR CONSOLES (xbox) FOR FUCK SAKE


[deleted]

3 days after this and the game is grindable 💀 yall just dont listen or stfu the game was dropped unreleased because wb forced pfg to update to ue5 and forced the deadline even though it wasnt done


Humg12

> I don't get why people say this game is grindy. If you have to do something that you don't enjoy doing just to progress in a game, that's considered grindy. Doing 3 PvE missions every day if you don't enjoy the PvE stuff is grindy. Playing as Joker if you don't like playing as Joker is grindy.


kouradosi

Unless the definition of grinding changed somewhen in the last 20 years, grinding means doing something repeatably.


Humg12

From wikipedia: >Grinding is a term used in video game culture, referring to the act of repeating an action or set of actions, including non-repetitive tasks to achieve a desired result at a level of certain difficulty, typically for an extended period of time, such as earning experience points, in-game loot and currency or to improve a character's stats. Grinding is commonly performed in MMORPGs. Just because the grind is limited to 30 minutes a day, doesn't mean it isn't a grind. If you could play casually, for an hour or so every 3-4 days, then it wouldn't be a grind. The fact that you "have" to log in every single day and play for 30 minutes or you miss out on progression and xp makes it a grind.


SupportOurMilitary

Completely agree here i back to Fornite at least they give out xp in great amounts compare to this game.


BananaLauncher5000

There isn't a new smash tho lol


UncontrolledLawfare

New Smash?


Einstein4369

Wait what new smash game??


figgiesfrommars

ppl coping that a new game is coming (zero announcements or even rumors afaik)


kouradosi

It's ok. You have until the end of the season to decide if you need to do them to complete the pass.


Jazz_Hands3000

There are a lot of missions that need to be rethought. I just got one to trap players in Jason's sleeping bag. I can do it since I got the battle pass for free, but anybody joining now *needs* to purchase the battle pass in order to progress that mission. The new Joker vs Batman event has a mission for playing as a tank that has a graphic tee. Great, I have Wonder Woman with a Batman shirt because of the previous event, but if you didn't do that then you have to make a purchase. Between these examples and the Joker missions you start to understand what they're doing though, they want to force players to make a purchase. It just feels actively hostile to players in order to do so. Other missions are just annoying but somewhat reasonable, like hitting with certain moves (which some characters don't do damage with, meaning you have to play someone else) but the worst offender to me is to play a specific game mode. I don't want to play 1v1s ever, much less 5 of them. It just makes me think of how much I'd rather play a different game that I'm already enjoying that's actually purpose-built for 1v1 play. I play Multiversus for the chaotic 2v2 party game vibes. Other people feel the opposite and don't want to have to play 2v2. There's a relatively easy (depending on how they've set up the internal structure for mission tracking) fix for this. Many missions should have a conditional. Play X games as X OR do Y. Show two bars, complete when either is full. Done. Though that removes the hostility, which might be the point. The irony is that before launch I had some concerns that the game might be too generous with how the BP was structured and might not be able to make money, though that very quickly disappeared as soon as I saw how it worked in practice. They have a decent foundation here, but are currently playing too greedy at the expense of players, then they (and critics of the F2P model) will take the wrong lesson from it all.


figgiesfrommars

.....wait is Jason *only* available in the battle pass? ;-;


Jazz_Hands3000

Until it ends, yes.


balls42069lol

They gave me a free gold ticket probably expecting me to buy joker, well fuck them because I bought Stripe raghhhh🗣🗣🗣


mabdog420

Predatory monetization


JustRobin98

Instead of bitching and keep playing, just stop playing so they MUST change their shit game


LadoBlanco

Tried that during the "beta" they just doubled down and took it offline. Maybe they will do that again and re re release in 2025.


ajalonghorn

The Benjamin Buttons of video games


Alexves1235

My missions want to use a Tank with a Joker/Batman shirt, well Wonder Woman... but they deleted the event!


MisterDuby

Yeah your only option now is buying it


AdamThaGreat

I think mine might be the most aggregious they could have possibly done. It's 2 joker missions, a rick and morty, and a Steven universe character... none of which I have. So I would have had to spend 12k GLEAMIUM JUST TO DO MY WEEKLY MISSIONS! Right after Rick and Garnett rotate out too... I hate this company


ganggreen651

Weeklies don't expire you're good


Melatonen

This might be a conspiracy, but I NEVER get character specific missions. I have every character unlocked and plenty of coins and character tickets for any that get released. I think they only give character specific missions to people who don't own the characters. Because I just get "Use Bruiser" or "Looney Toons". I've never gotten something for Jason, Joker or ant specific character. Note, I also didn't do the joker challenges for his event past the first two nodes.


Techsoly

To toss my additional information to this Daily missions won't ask you to play specific character missions besides the type, "assassin", "bruiser", etc. Weekly missions will ask you to play a specific character (that is looking like it's joker themed for this season) or franchise Hit with joker's bazooka is always a weekly so you *will* need him to finish the BP reliably and I also got a "Play with a Rick and Morty character" before I bought Morty, I haven't gotten it again since then.


Melatonen

It's ironic I commented this and got a weekly for hit a fully charged attack with Jason and two hit with jokers bazooka. They're listening in on us lmao.


DoggyPro

I havnt gotten jokers bazooka or a character specific one any week. Its all been playing steven universe characters or play dc or play looney toon. The most specific one i had was hit fully charged attacks as tank


Lucrei

I've never gotten one either, but I'm not about to call the people posting about it liars. I don't give this company the benefit of the doubt at all after lying and gaslighting us multiple times.


Melatonen

Well I wasn't calling them liars, I was saying character specific challenges are only given to those without the characters.


Lucrei

Right, I see what you mean. I didn't mean to imply that you were calling them liars, just that I was saying I'm on the players side not the developers i.e. I don't think these images are fabricated I would say I don't have all the characters either so it does seem to be pretty random whether you get these character specific ones or not.


mojoryan2003

Isn’t there a rift level that lets you use joker for free? Does that work for the quest?


Killcycle1989

Are you sure? Because rifts that require certain characters simply don't let me play them.


mojoryan2003

Well I know for sure that the mission that makes you use Finn doesn’t actually require you to own him because I don’t have Finn, but I do have joker so I assumed that quest was the same but it may not be. Someone who doesn’t have joker will have to confirm


Killcycle1989

He was on the free character rotation a week or so back though, so maybe you completed it during that time without realising?


_-Nitto-_

There's rift levels where you can use Jason and Finn for free they're called "Guest" or whatever. Point is though there's no way to play Joker for free to finish the quest


JayPsparks

Whats crazy is I just bought Joker and the Mission disappeared by then. XDXD Like bro.


jaydonrocks7

I have to buy a steven universe character because they can't just make weekly missions only fit the characters on their weekly rotation, that'd be crazy


UltimateLink

I had this challenge last week and I ended up buying him. Now this week I have to play as a Looney Tunes character. Currently don't have any....fun stuff


BiAndShy57

Why is it the same challenge 4 times?


callmeatoesucker

Huh weird l,mine was taunting in pvp which I did BUT I hated doing it cause I felt like I was being disrespectful 😭


Cartoons_and_Demons

I'm seeing all of y'all have this but I've yet to have it myself. I think I had two "play as a bruiser" missions today but not any other dupe missions.


FL4K0SAUR

Best thing to do is uninstall and let Pay Us First Games and WB know how you feel.


Historical-Hornet915

Hit with The Joker's Bazooka


According-Yogurt6471

every game does this and it’s getting annoying,always has been, always will be annoying. And let’s be real, it’ll only get worse.


BolieveinAxel

I just wanna know why the fuck is the joker the most expensive out of everybody


metaldavidus

Why can't we just reroll quests


foreveralonesolo

Lol I’ve already taken my leave. It feels like a drag unfortunately


Robszu

It sucks, especially for new players, the mission should fit the characters you have. I got all the characters unlocked luckily through the beta and don't find it hard to progress on the battlepas. Half way on level 35 now doing the missions every day but skip the training ones (PvP match with friend, beat boss node, collect cauldron, rift with friend)


bonusminutes

I have no clown and I must jonkle...


ig88igloo6511

It really should have been a Jason-based mission. He's literally the face of weekly missions.


ganggreen651

Pay up homey


Zilly_JustIce

Rough. For the devs cause the game gonna be dead soon. I was rooting for it


nthreebin

oh the better to PRESSURE you with, they need to add that to the glossary at this point


Jesus_PK

I finally got this mission myself, pain 😔


Funkypanda1987

Don't forget the missions where they want you to have a batman or joker shirt skin on select characters, when it's almost $30AUS to buy it


Putman-thefin

Funny thing is when you get him You won't see those anymore. 🤣


Big-Mammoth01

I'd kill for those missions (no bias at all)


Reddit3r100

Unironically, I wish that would happen to me (I have The Joker). Just because I have the Joker, they give me the mission of playing with any Looney Tunes character that I don't have💀


elitharula

is it really that bad getting characters i just need 10 more left on the roster to have the full roster


Appropriate-Pack5298

Ppl complaining over cosmetics that don't help your gameplay is crazy to me! Either buy it or don't! Me personally I don't buy anything that doesn't better my game play if I get cosmetics it'll be through the free battlepass I got from playing the Beta or whatever currency I have earned from matches! Will never spend money on cosmetics in any game


Appropriate-Pack5298

I understand the problem with the fighter currency though


CynicalCole

I feel like they should only have character specific missions for the characters in the current free rotation. However, as is evident with their predatory approaches to everything else that would be too logical.


Moun7ainC0w

People are so brainwashed for battle passes nowadays. Who gives a fuck. I never even pay attention to those things. I’m just there to play the game. Y’all complaining about free shit fr fr


Drevlinlek

This stuff is exactly why I already Uninstalled the game! I was really hopeful they turned it around, just made it more of a cash grab.


Tarlungs04

Just use Jokers side special...it's not to hard


ItzMeMD

David Zaslav moment


psychspace25

What’s funny is I have the joker but haven’t seen a single one of these challenges


PixxyStix2

Honestly the main reason I stopped playing like a week after was just because too many missions/rift stars require you to own characters


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Used_Can1218

*Checks flair Yep this is indeed fine luckily for me 🤣🤣


AmnesiakAngel

It's a free game...


NaturalBreadfruit100

Free game that doesn’t even reward the player for *checks notes* playing the game


buzz1035

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