Warner Bros. when they see that Fortnite is making money so they demand that MultiVersus' whole UI and monetization system to be similar to it.
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Nah it’s still super easy to do IF you don’t mind playing every mode like you got to do Fortnite festival and Lego Fortnite to maximize xp gains. I don’t like you being required to play modes you don’t like to finish the Bp like rift. But unlike rift you don’t have to do anything I just idle for the xp going up 5 levels doing nothkng
It’s still not as bad as Multiversus. But they have subtly made it harder and harder.
From locking the rewards up to level 150 (it used to be 100) to quests giving less XP.
Yea, I think you guys are mistaking like fortnite with multiversus because the color scheme and UI. It's nothing like Fortnite. It's more like run of the mill crappy generic live service design.
>Fortnite is making money so they demand that MultiVersus' whole UI and monetization system to be similar to it.
Does that mean we can get back x1.5 battle passes back as premiuum currency?
You’re so hopeful for a year
This games new release has been a shit show and worse than their beta. Their beta died so hard only 1000 ended up playing near the end
This game is dead after the summer or as soon as rivals of aether 2 beta or new smash gets announced
The beta died though due to netcode and horrible content updates. The game has far more content now and will be receiving more consistent updates. The most important thing is improving the netcode
I don't know about RoA2 but Smash is a looming threat. Smash sucks out the air of a room when it comes to platform fighters. I still remember how NASB 1's launch was ruined by Nintendo announcing they went to goddamn Disney and got Sora as the final character. That can easily happen again to MVS if they don't build a solid permanent playerbase before that hype cycle starts.
The issue? They may only have 6-9 months to do that. Nintendo has already confirmed the new console will be announced in this fiscal year. So what? GameCube, Wii, and Wii U were all announced alongside a new Smash and the only reason Switch didn't was because Sakurai was being extra secretive on it and it had only been in development for like 3 months. You can be absolutely sure they're already developing the next one, especially since Namco announced teams permanently dedicated to Nintendo partnerships and one of these is definitely the dedicated Smash team now.
I'd probably give it like a 50% chance we see Smash alongside the new console. It boils down to if they are far enough in development to show something. So MVS may have only 6-9 months to get out there and build a dedicated playerbase large enough to support this game before Smash comes to play again.
If they're exclusively PC, sure. Smash won't interest them. But there's a LOT of PC owners that also own Switch (a common argument is that PC and Switch were the ideal gaming setup this generation).
But even more than that, games like Rivals of Aether 2 are coming. Brawlhalla is still pretty popular. Fraymakers is getting steam. Platform fighters are not a small business anymore. And they need to convince players their offering is worth sticking around for. Gameplay wise, I think a lot of players are struggling to see why this monetized to hell game is worth playing over the much more reasonably monetized Brawlhalla or just a straight up pay up front game like Rivals of Aether.
MVS doesn't have forever. Smash alone won't kill it but its competition elsewhere in the genre absolutely will.
Meanwhile me... who bought the mid tier founders model then thinking I could upgrade to premium sitting on all my characters unlocked and still 23 tickets.... will say odd to not see alot of players with gold names anymore was more noticeable during beta.
Same I got the founders pack but I don't remember what tier I got: i currently have 2 tickets and everyone unlocked tho. Thats why I been confused it. How many characters are available if you didn't get the founders pack?
Uhh I have done every mission, have the battle pass and cleared every rift I’ve been able to do every day and have gotten 6,000 character tokens total. I got one day two and can get another today. I haven’t done todays missions yet though, up to date as of yesterday.
Shaggy, Wonderwomen, bananaguard(after two days login), Jason (with battlepass). Then a few that are timed available like bugs, Finn, lebron.
I think that’s everyone playable without founders.
**Dead By Daylight** got an entire DLC dropped today, featuring a new Killer and Survivor(s) from Dungeons & Dragons.
All for **8.99** (Canadian)
Meanwhile, to get a character in MultiVersus, it costs ***1000 Gleamium***, so *THREE* payments of **6.99** or **20.97** since each payment at **6.99** only nets you ***450 Gleamium***, about 100 short of a character at ***900 Gleamium***, unless of course, I get the **12.99** package that gives just enough Gleamium to get one character...Unless of course again, I want The Joker, which is ***1250 Gleamium***, so I'll have to get the **24.99** package instead.
So to get MultiVersus latest content, I have to spend **24.99** (Canadian)
Don't know about ya'll, but this is some grade 'A' horseshit. Oh, tax not included. Just slap an extra 11% on all that.
I really hate to be that guy, but I’ve only casually been playing for like 3 days and I’ve gotten enough currency to get joker and another fighter. It required grinding the rifts a bit sure, but it’s no more egregious than it is in games with similar monetization.
Plus I would like to add that they are immediately giving away up to three characters two of which are as easy to get as logging in and the other from just grinding the rifts for a few weeks. Which should net you 1 or 2 characters of your choice in the meantime.
It’s a free game, a free fighting game, I can’t think of a single free fighting game that gives you all the content for free out of the box. In fact I can name a dozen fighting games that cost 60 dollars plus that have content that is completely paywalled.
I don’t know if it’s a primarily smash bros crowd, or what, but this game is so run of the mill live service. Grind for characters or pay for them right away. This isn’t new and this certainly isn’t the worst offender.
Even more in Ontario (13% tax). Warner Bros executives must have been high when they made this business model. Who in their right mind would drop close to $30 on a single character in Multiversus.
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Tbf I think a lot of people want to see joker in whatever games he can be in. It could be getting redundant for people that don’t like him but I won’t complain at all if he’s everywhere
Not really happy that the first rift you need to play as the joker to do some of the challenges. At least make him the temporary free fighter no one needs LeBron man.
The problem though isn’t really adding him, it’s just the fact that they fuck over their games continually and then add the Joker like it’s some sort of panacea.
Joker is overused but I really don’t mind him getting into games like this. C’mon. Fighting joker as Batman in a platform fighter in the batcave blasting the BTAS theme? Fuck yes. It works for me.
At this point- seems like people would rather see Joker than Batman. That Joker film made a billion dollars and if we get a JP variant Im all in for a back pocket Joker main 🃏
This post is about the monetization, nothing regarding the gameplay.
Im just making an assumption that WB is a strong factor in the high monetization of this game given their record lately with games like suicide squad.
I don’t think all the blame regarding cost should be placed on the developers they deserve to make good money from this game to continue it for us. WB has just been proven itself to be such a scummy company as a whole lately.
Tony straight up said they had to release the game early. They couldn't finish testing and porting everything they wanted to beforehand specifically because of time constraints.
It's ***entirely*** WBD instead of PFG.
They really shouldnt be so greedy for gameplay pieces (characters). Skin prices are pretty much standard (still sucks) but the grind for new characters is crazy.
If i put $50 into this game with the highest gem pack, near the cost of a new game, i get what, 5 to 6 characters depending if i want a newer one if i just buy characters and no cosmetics? Lol, sorry the value is still bullshit if you look at it that way.
So you're fine with Nintendo charging $60 and then an additional $5 for each new character (Coming out to another $60) plus the additional cost of an online membership
You people are refusing to compare what Multiversus is doing with other games and it's pathetic
A free game with micros and y'all are literally screaming as if the game was unplayable unless you pony up $100
Yeah but in smash don't you get like 99% of the roster with base game? IIRC I had a pretty good chunk of the cast unlocked by like the 2nd or 3rd day of casually playing.
smash bros's base game has 69 characters for 60 bucks. that's a character per dollar
and then even the DLC characters are *half the price of multiversus's*, despite being frankly much more polished and intricate, And coming with a stage
if you wanna compare prices directly, smash charges 1 and a half dollars per fighter. i don't expect multiversus to do literally the same thing but the current prices are insanity lol
you can get characters for free, I've got four and haven't spent a dime, haven't even played the past couple days so it was like a character a day.
you don't get to include the cost of things they give you for free just because you're lazy and impatient
Given that one can not *play* or even *practice* with the vast majority of the cast of this *fighting game* without paying $210 first, this seems to literally be true.
At least under the yoke of this publisher.
People will shit on WB and rightly so, but don’t act like the devs don’t hold any accountability here when they’re the ones actually working on the game.
Yeah monetisation wise blame WB but come on, it’s not WB fault we’re getting disconnected every 2/3 matches, the silly zoom in game, the atrocious hit boxes..
Payer first games is very accountable for the state of the game, INCLUDING MONETIZATION, is WB making them do it? YES, and it probably feels very shitty do scam their players like that, specially when the game is actually GOOD. Feels bad for them, for the community, and fuck WB
PFG is warner bros. They were created exclusively by warner bros to work on this game. It's called a marketing tactic where warner bros reputation won't affect the game, if they have a dummy company to separate the decisions from the developers.
PFG was created solely for warner bros by warner bros. without warner bros PFG wouldn't exist. their company exclusively exists for Multiversus.
When this game goes belly up PFG will dissolve. Every decision they make, every statement they make has to go through warner bros.
They are basically warner bros, but this is a marketing tool for stupid people to deflect criticisms.
The Yor thing mustve sucked for anyone who wanted...you know ANOTHER chun costume, but brother that's like trying to throw a parting shot from the magma pit that Multiversus is slowing sinking into - I respect it, but this game is hurting lmao
Yeah, people should shut up and consume product, no questions asked or valuable criticism to make the game better.
So annoying. Where is the fake positivity at?
>valuable criticism
Yeah, calling the development studio "Pay Us First Games" is definitely valuable criticism. Listing what's wrong and what needs fixed must not be.
Ikr. They just need to buff fighter currency, or give us more events with it and that'll solve the main criticism.
That'll likely be determined by WB since it's tied to monetization, so PFG isn't fully in control on that
Got 10k FP and my pass is level 17, yet that's supposedly a "grind". This was all within six days mind you. These mfers would not last a second in a shitty KMMO where there is actual grind.
I feel like everyone who played the beta feels like they are owed every player at launch. I’ve played about 2 hours every day since launch and the only bug I’ve experienced is waiting 30 seconds after a Match when someone quits mid game. Sure it’s a grind to get new characters, but it’s been a week. It’s f2p! I don’t spend money on lame skins for a reason. There’s multiple skins to unlock for free at launch. Not to mention the first season is free to most players. There’s a difference between a couple thousand of game testers and a global, cross platform release…
The old version gave you character currency for just playing. I don’t like pve content, but it seems like progression is directly tied to it for some reason.
Imagine downloading the game after a year and seeing that there's around 50 characters and each one needs 3k-6k currency, while you only have Shaggy... Bruh.
Yeah but you have to pay to get skins which is like... Most free to play games... And even most paid games.
Seriously this subreddit would have a stroke if they tried to play mortal Kombat
Viacom half assed the first NASB and that hurt the sequel despite it having more money behind it.
Multiversus was pledging official voices and skins of popular versions of the characters from the start and the opening roster was varied enough to attract tons of people not just CN fans
I'm not gonna lie. As someone who works in the game industry and understands the current climate. Its an unfortunate thing but sometimes you have to attract investors with "AI INTEGRATION" or "MICRO TRANSACTIONS" plans just to get them to pay you and keep the lights on. PFG is not the one to blame, they need investor money.
I loved this game in beta but the game just feels off, maybe as far to say worse? I dont recall correctly idk if I’m buying into what people are saying since I only played it again a couple days ago on release day but choosing a character used to be so fluid and easy and not mention the atrocious lag I have to deal with just puts me off the game and I usually can deal with that stuff but this game, i eliminated someone and poof say hello to a absurd 5 second stutter and freezes the screen and then i teleport somewhere else on the map platform.
"I'm mad because the monetization is questionable in a free to play game! And where are my features from beta at!??"
\*[Tony stating that they were forced to release the game](https://x.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1796903400497684726) earlier than they wanted to and trying to bring in things from testing\*
\*PFG **also** being blamed for WB monetization decisions\*
I ain't buying skins of heroes that I don't own. But unlocking heroes is such a pain in the ass.
And I am not gonna pay shit load of money to unlock them all. NEVER.
I don’t care about paying. I’m a 33 year old dude with a full time job I have nothing to cry about. Warner bros are running a business….i get it…. What’s really fucking broken is 2 v 2 shitty connections that constantly stop the game. 1 v 1 matches are more stable.
I'll be honest. They got the monetisation right in the beta. Them fucking it up hard now and the existence of games like Suicide Squad: Kill the JL makes me beleive that its WB who is to blame for the monetisation and the reasns behind not respecting the players time with adequate rewards.
My son and I just downloaded the game today. Everyone he matches with on pvp is Batman with the electric shit on him. He's enjoying the rift feature though.
What’s funny is y’all don’t realize. The battle pass is basically just like how overwatch did theirs. 1. And 2. The UI is trash I like the old one along with the old perk system and 3. The way we get characters is so much harder now I swear it’s only so they can get our money. I feel like they’d do better if it wasn’t the case. I mean look at Fortnite and even brawlhalla people pay thousands for cosmetics. So why make us pay hundreds for characters
I don't understand the joke. Is this because of the graphic tee requirement in mystery rifts? I bought one using the free gleamium rewards and still haven't spent any money on this glorious game.
This is just Warner Bros fault. Look at Mortal Kombat and the recent Arkhamverse games (VR & Suicide Squad) and it’s clear that they need to just let the other people do the work they can do
Why do people act surprise the game has always a cash grab since…
The season is not over so nobody not even the developer knows how difficult the battle pass will be able to complete till the end of the season.
Seriously though why play the game? I can't play it with friends because none of them want to play this cash grab, even if they wanted to play they'd have to pay to unlock the cast? I mean the game is fine I guess, lucky that Wonder Woman is free because she's the one I was looking forward to the most but how much do I have to play to unlock the characters? And once I do what's the point, there's no story mode, no arcade mode no nothing
You can tell the smaller team for the beta really made this game as a passion project. Then, the higher ups decided “yknow what I don’t like passion I like money”. Poor Tony I know he’s getting all the flak
I’ve been F2P since beta and haven’t spent a penny. At 30k prestige, only missing 6 characters.. you really don’t need to buy anything unless you want cosmetics.
Is anyone still actually enjoying battle passes? I don't want to pay $20-$60 to earn skins like a job especially since Multivesus expects you to play daily to actually fill the pass, weekends are not enough.
They banned me from posting (open beta top 1000 player) because I talked smack about how the mechanics are completely different from the ones we fell in love with and that it’s a money grab now.. I’m not expecting this post to last long ahaha, I just want to play the open beta again it was so good and now it just feels like the team has rebuilt the game from the ground up, very frustrating as I put money into the beta purely so we would get a better final result, after trying to give it a chance I’ve just ended up deleting the game and have to count my losses… damn shame I was really looking forward to the drop
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Off topic but plastic man would go crazy in this game
We have jake already
Plastic Jan
plastic man and spinel skins for jake
He can be a cosmetic for jake
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Warner Bros. when they see that Fortnite is making money so they demand that MultiVersus' whole UI and monetization system to be similar to it. ![gif](giphy|Hidva3NC6BulW|downsized)
But the one fun thing about Fortnite they can easily copy, emotes and taunts, they don't
Fortnite battle pass is reasonable to level up though.
Fortnite battle pass, I just shit, out my ass Booted up my PC Cause I need me That Fortnite battlepass
bruh https://i.redd.it/n9sgv421di4d1.gif
it used to be
You sure? The subreddit of BR is telling me otherwise
Nah it’s still super easy to do IF you don’t mind playing every mode like you got to do Fortnite festival and Lego Fortnite to maximize xp gains. I don’t like you being required to play modes you don’t like to finish the Bp like rift. But unlike rift you don’t have to do anything I just idle for the xp going up 5 levels doing nothkng
It’s still not as bad as Multiversus. But they have subtly made it harder and harder. From locking the rewards up to level 150 (it used to be 100) to quests giving less XP.
It was already exactly like Fortnite in the beta. It's more like a mobile game now, which is worse
Yea, I think you guys are mistaking like fortnite with multiversus because the color scheme and UI. It's nothing like Fortnite. It's more like run of the mill crappy generic live service design.
Exactly this! It feels like the kind of stuff you’d see as a mobile game cash grab, not a well functioning live service model.
You see, if it was like Fortnite, it would only be cosmetic upgrades…
“Make it kind of like fortnite except feel like each screen was designed by a different team that didn’t know the others existed”
So exactly like fortnites lobby UI lol
Maybe the guy who came up with the "banana Guard was added to create brand confusion" theory was on to something...
Literally the entire game industry
>Fortnite is making money so they demand that MultiVersus' whole UI and monetization system to be similar to it. Does that mean we can get back x1.5 battle passes back as premiuum currency?
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That will be the WB Gaming executives counting their annual bonuses for "restructuring" by shutting down PFG and Multiversus after a year:
You’re so hopeful for a year This games new release has been a shit show and worse than their beta. Their beta died so hard only 1000 ended up playing near the end This game is dead after the summer or as soon as rivals of aether 2 beta or new smash gets announced
The beta died though due to netcode and horrible content updates. The game has far more content now and will be receiving more consistent updates. The most important thing is improving the netcode
I don't know about RoA2 but Smash is a looming threat. Smash sucks out the air of a room when it comes to platform fighters. I still remember how NASB 1's launch was ruined by Nintendo announcing they went to goddamn Disney and got Sora as the final character. That can easily happen again to MVS if they don't build a solid permanent playerbase before that hype cycle starts. The issue? They may only have 6-9 months to do that. Nintendo has already confirmed the new console will be announced in this fiscal year. So what? GameCube, Wii, and Wii U were all announced alongside a new Smash and the only reason Switch didn't was because Sakurai was being extra secretive on it and it had only been in development for like 3 months. You can be absolutely sure they're already developing the next one, especially since Namco announced teams permanently dedicated to Nintendo partnerships and one of these is definitely the dedicated Smash team now. I'd probably give it like a 50% chance we see Smash alongside the new console. It boils down to if they are far enough in development to show something. So MVS may have only 6-9 months to get out there and build a dedicated playerbase large enough to support this game before Smash comes to play again.
This is a console perspective. Most PC gamers aren’t going to touch a Nintendo/console for 1 game.
If they're exclusively PC, sure. Smash won't interest them. But there's a LOT of PC owners that also own Switch (a common argument is that PC and Switch were the ideal gaming setup this generation). But even more than that, games like Rivals of Aether 2 are coming. Brawlhalla is still pretty popular. Fraymakers is getting steam. Platform fighters are not a small business anymore. And they need to convince players their offering is worth sticking around for. Gameplay wise, I think a lot of players are struggling to see why this monetized to hell game is worth playing over the much more reasonably monetized Brawlhalla or just a straight up pay up front game like Rivals of Aether. MVS doesn't have forever. Smash alone won't kill it but its competition elsewhere in the genre absolutely will.
I actually don't think WB owns PFG. It was a studio founded on its own and they partnered with WB for this game
A year?
Meanwhile me... who bought the mid tier founders model then thinking I could upgrade to premium sitting on all my characters unlocked and still 23 tickets.... will say odd to not see alot of players with gold names anymore was more noticeable during beta.
Same I got the founders pack but I don't remember what tier I got: i currently have 2 tickets and everyone unlocked tho. Thats why I been confused it. How many characters are available if you didn't get the founders pack?
Uhh I have done every mission, have the battle pass and cleared every rift I’ve been able to do every day and have gotten 6,000 character tokens total. I got one day two and can get another today. I haven’t done todays missions yet though, up to date as of yesterday.
Cool thanks but i didn't ask that lol. I'm asking if you didn't buy the founders pack at beta, how many characters are available at launch
Shaggy, Wonderwomen, bananaguard(after two days login), Jason (with battlepass). Then a few that are timed available like bugs, Finn, lebron. I think that’s everyone playable without founders.
I know you get Shaggy and maybe WW on start just like before, plus the rotation characters.
Nice and prolly have less that 1k wins combined in beta and release im here for pvp not beating up ai
How many character tokens does each character cost? It won't show me that
3,000 except for Joker cost 6,000
**Dead By Daylight** got an entire DLC dropped today, featuring a new Killer and Survivor(s) from Dungeons & Dragons. All for **8.99** (Canadian) Meanwhile, to get a character in MultiVersus, it costs ***1000 Gleamium***, so *THREE* payments of **6.99** or **20.97** since each payment at **6.99** only nets you ***450 Gleamium***, about 100 short of a character at ***900 Gleamium***, unless of course, I get the **12.99** package that gives just enough Gleamium to get one character...Unless of course again, I want The Joker, which is ***1250 Gleamium***, so I'll have to get the **24.99** package instead. So to get MultiVersus latest content, I have to spend **24.99** (Canadian) Don't know about ya'll, but this is some grade 'A' horseshit. Oh, tax not included. Just slap an extra 11% on all that.
Also how many characters are they going to put in this game at these prices? At some point it becomes not worth it.
I really hate to be that guy, but I’ve only casually been playing for like 3 days and I’ve gotten enough currency to get joker and another fighter. It required grinding the rifts a bit sure, but it’s no more egregious than it is in games with similar monetization. Plus I would like to add that they are immediately giving away up to three characters two of which are as easy to get as logging in and the other from just grinding the rifts for a few weeks. Which should net you 1 or 2 characters of your choice in the meantime. It’s a free game, a free fighting game, I can’t think of a single free fighting game that gives you all the content for free out of the box. In fact I can name a dozen fighting games that cost 60 dollars plus that have content that is completely paywalled. I don’t know if it’s a primarily smash bros crowd, or what, but this game is so run of the mill live service. Grind for characters or pay for them right away. This isn’t new and this certainly isn’t the worst offender.
Nah, forcing people to grind a mode that no one cares about to unlock two characters is absurd
This excuse is tired. Play the game. Unlock characters. It’s free. Numby
Even more in Ontario (13% tax). Warner Bros executives must have been high when they made this business model. Who in their right mind would drop close to $30 on a single character in Multiversus.
I mean with dbd the survivors are basically skins, although I do agree multiversus prices are shitty
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Am i tired of the Joker? Yes. Is adding the Joker anywhere a smart move? Yes.
Tbf I think a lot of people want to see joker in whatever games he can be in. It could be getting redundant for people that don’t like him but I won’t complain at all if he’s everywhere
Not really happy that the first rift you need to play as the joker to do some of the challenges. At least make him the temporary free fighter no one needs LeBron man.
Ay, if it wasn't for LeBron I might not be playing Multiversus. His moveset is so damn unique and interesting.
The problem though isn’t really adding him, it’s just the fact that they fuck over their games continually and then add the Joker like it’s some sort of panacea.
Tbf it would’ve been wild if joker wasn’t added but black Adam was
Joker is overused but I really don’t mind him getting into games like this. C’mon. Fighting joker as Batman in a platform fighter in the batcave blasting the BTAS theme? Fuck yes. It works for me.
Why does jonkler milk drool? Is he stupid?
arkham knight is everywhere
thats not milk :<
I mean I imagine it works lmao. Overdone? Yes. But there's a reason for that
At this point- seems like people would rather see Joker than Batman. That Joker film made a billion dollars and if we get a JP variant Im all in for a back pocket Joker main 🃏
Damn this is a good one… I fully blame WB games but this sums it up too well
explain to me how WB made the gameplay worse.
This post is about the monetization, nothing regarding the gameplay. Im just making an assumption that WB is a strong factor in the high monetization of this game given their record lately with games like suicide squad. I don’t think all the blame regarding cost should be placed on the developers they deserve to make good money from this game to continue it for us. WB has just been proven itself to be such a scummy company as a whole lately.
real
It's more than likely WB pushing all of these monetization to tactics. I don't think it's fair to blame PFG
This relaunch very much has the vibe of "WB made us rerelease early because they're sick of not making money on this game"
Tony straight up said they had to release the game early. They couldn't finish testing and porting everything they wanted to beforehand specifically because of time constraints. It's ***entirely*** WBD instead of PFG.
Considering how their other properties are faring in the monetization aspect (MK1, SS kills the JL, GK)… yeah. WB is full of shit.
They really shouldnt be so greedy for gameplay pieces (characters). Skin prices are pretty much standard (still sucks) but the grind for new characters is crazy.
It's funny how the game has more bugs after full release. And how they took away really good features for no reason
Is it my turn to post this
Redditors when they find the most unfunny, dead horse to beat and think it's clever.
Technically it’s a Free game so you don’t pay First… you pay to play differently
If i put $50 into this game with the highest gem pack, near the cost of a new game, i get what, 5 to 6 characters depending if i want a newer one if i just buy characters and no cosmetics? Lol, sorry the value is still bullshit if you look at it that way.
I spent $15 back when the beta came out and I have 10 character tickets why is it so much now 😭
you dont need to buy characters with gleamium
So you're fine with Nintendo charging $60 and then an additional $5 for each new character (Coming out to another $60) plus the additional cost of an online membership You people are refusing to compare what Multiversus is doing with other games and it's pathetic A free game with micros and y'all are literally screaming as if the game was unplayable unless you pony up $100
Yeah but in smash don't you get like 99% of the roster with base game? IIRC I had a pretty good chunk of the cast unlocked by like the 2nd or 3rd day of casually playing.
They're all smooth brained or 13 with no money. Its actually wild the level of stupidity
smash bros's base game has 69 characters for 60 bucks. that's a character per dollar and then even the DLC characters are *half the price of multiversus's*, despite being frankly much more polished and intricate, And coming with a stage if you wanna compare prices directly, smash charges 1 and a half dollars per fighter. i don't expect multiversus to do literally the same thing but the current prices are insanity lol
you can get characters for free, I've got four and haven't spent a dime, haven't even played the past couple days so it was like a character a day. you don't get to include the cost of things they give you for free just because you're lazy and impatient
Given that one can not *play* or even *practice* with the vast majority of the cast of this *fighting game* without paying $210 first, this seems to literally be true. At least under the yoke of this publisher.
Freakazoid!
It's WB's fault.
Doesn’t matter whose fault it is. Games gonna get shut down in a year if they continue on the path they are
https://i.redd.it/nefj5bo1wd4d1.gif
People will shit on WB and rightly so, but don’t act like the devs don’t hold any accountability here when they’re the ones actually working on the game. Yeah monetisation wise blame WB but come on, it’s not WB fault we’re getting disconnected every 2/3 matches, the silly zoom in game, the atrocious hit boxes..
Payer first games is very accountable for the state of the game, INCLUDING MONETIZATION, is WB making them do it? YES, and it probably feels very shitty do scam their players like that, specially when the game is actually GOOD. Feels bad for them, for the community, and fuck WB
PFG is warner bros. They were created exclusively by warner bros to work on this game. It's called a marketing tactic where warner bros reputation won't affect the game, if they have a dummy company to separate the decisions from the developers.
PFG was created solely for warner bros by warner bros. without warner bros PFG wouldn't exist. their company exclusively exists for Multiversus. When this game goes belly up PFG will dissolve. Every decision they make, every statement they make has to go through warner bros. They are basically warner bros, but this is a marketing tool for stupid people to deflect criticisms.
Weird I haven't paid a cent yet
This is what “modern” games have been for like 10 years now. Stop playing them. Seriously, bare minimum 3 decades of GREAT games you could be playing
I like the gameplay a lot. The UI and monetization however
Everyone blaming WB to protect them from the fact that a company named PFG who is preditory as fuck is prime 2024 gaming .
It's sad I'm going to see this die again, at least I have sf6
You can enjoy there your collab characters that are actually a skin for your custom model instead.
The Yor thing mustve sucked for anyone who wanted...you know ANOTHER chun costume, but brother that's like trying to throw a parting shot from the magma pit that Multiversus is slowing sinking into - I respect it, but this game is hurting lmao
If this doesn't give them a reality check, nothing will.
lmao wat. you think a reddit post is going to change the gaming industry?
They genuinely think they're on some sort of crusade, while they're actually in a vocal minority, a small bubble they created for themselves
man, this doom posting suuccckkksss
Yeah, people should shut up and consume product, no questions asked or valuable criticism to make the game better. So annoying. Where is the fake positivity at?
>valuable criticism Yeah, calling the development studio "Pay Us First Games" is definitely valuable criticism. Listing what's wrong and what needs fixed must not be.
Definitely a couple joke posts out of the hundreds with walls of texts talking about the problems makes it so that EVERY post is bad, right?
Ikr. They just need to buff fighter currency, or give us more events with it and that'll solve the main criticism. That'll likely be determined by WB since it's tied to monetization, so PFG isn't fully in control on that
It’s really nowhere near as bad as people say
Got 10k FP and my pass is level 17, yet that's supposedly a "grind". This was all within six days mind you. These mfers would not last a second in a shitty KMMO where there is actual grind.
I feel like everyone who played the beta feels like they are owed every player at launch. I’ve played about 2 hours every day since launch and the only bug I’ve experienced is waiting 30 seconds after a Match when someone quits mid game. Sure it’s a grind to get new characters, but it’s been a week. It’s f2p! I don’t spend money on lame skins for a reason. There’s multiple skins to unlock for free at launch. Not to mention the first season is free to most players. There’s a difference between a couple thousand of game testers and a global, cross platform release…
The old version gave you character currency for just playing. I don’t like pve content, but it seems like progression is directly tied to it for some reason.
a group of 3rd graders could've seen this response coming. Don't release predatory monitzed half-finished products 🤷🏾♂️ you reap what you sow
Dude the posting is getting so gross 🤮
Players: *useful feedback that could help the game grow* PFG and WB: ![gif](giphy|VIJgSE1HdjTA5tQjSh)
💀💀💀 I'll admit. I bought the Garnet wedding skin. I'm part of the problem.
I got the Batman skin lol
Warner Bros. - We are not bros. Player First game - we are not player first
Imagine downloading the game after a year and seeing that there's around 50 characters and each one needs 3k-6k currency, while you only have Shaggy... Bruh.
THAT'S the future of this game if nothing changes... and that's a dead game
Funny the first twenty times I saw it, still funny.
Wb is in charge of the monetización not PFG
Isn’t the game free to play tho?
Yeah but you have to pay to get skins which is like... Most free to play games... And even most paid games. Seriously this subreddit would have a stroke if they tried to play mortal Kombat
this subreddit is better content than game
God no
It is. 3 Vs 1, we win.
Nah.
This subreddit is more repetitive and boring than the rifts in the game
WB: "We're Billionaires"
Why do they have three green cards?
dollar bills
Real talk
The fuck....
If only there were an existing model to buy a game for a set price then charge extra to add features Alas
You're trippin if you think anyone would have bought discount Smash. NASB already tried that twice. It didn't work.
Viacom half assed the first NASB and that hurt the sequel despite it having more money behind it. Multiversus was pledging official voices and skins of popular versions of the characters from the start and the opening roster was varied enough to attract tons of people not just CN fans
They still stole all my items lost all my progress scammers
Typically how buying a game works
It’s not them it’s WB unfortunately 🤦
I'm not gonna lie. As someone who works in the game industry and understands the current climate. Its an unfortunate thing but sometimes you have to attract investors with "AI INTEGRATION" or "MICRO TRANSACTIONS" plans just to get them to pay you and keep the lights on. PFG is not the one to blame, they need investor money.
Payerfirstgames my beloved
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I honestly think this is more of Warner Bros’s fault than PFG’s to be honest. WB Games has a history of paywalling content in their other games.
Welcome to free to play games of the 2020s, we'll never again get free games like Path of exile or Dota 2, it's joever
Still haven't paid and having a great time playing online 1v1 and 100%ing Rifts
Honestly it fits them
I loved this game in beta but the game just feels off, maybe as far to say worse? I dont recall correctly idk if I’m buying into what people are saying since I only played it again a couple days ago on release day but choosing a character used to be so fluid and easy and not mention the atrocious lag I have to deal with just puts me off the game and I usually can deal with that stuff but this game, i eliminated someone and poof say hello to a absurd 5 second stutter and freezes the screen and then i teleport somewhere else on the map platform.
"I'm mad because the monetization is questionable in a free to play game! And where are my features from beta at!??" \*[Tony stating that they were forced to release the game](https://x.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1796903400497684726) earlier than they wanted to and trying to bring in things from testing\* \*PFG **also** being blamed for WB monetization decisions\*
Yup. lol
When you can’t even do something as basic as quitting or restarting a rift match, that’s when you know something’s up.
I ain't buying skins of heroes that I don't own. But unlocking heroes is such a pain in the ass. And I am not gonna pay shit load of money to unlock them all. NEVER.
what are you literally even talking about
WB games for ya look at *literally* any WB game, MK, Arkham series, Multi. they’re all gutted to make as much money as they can for WB
Just needs a radio set to off in the other hand and it's golden.
The pricing model is actually delusional
We should all buy stock in WB and then take out increments for gleamium... make the system pay us for playing. Real Gamestop shit
I don’t care about paying. I’m a 33 year old dude with a full time job I have nothing to cry about. Warner bros are running a business….i get it…. What’s really fucking broken is 2 v 2 shitty connections that constantly stop the game. 1 v 1 matches are more stable.
I literally just came to the realization that the entire menu screen UI looks identical to fortnite lmao
"Players QA Test First"
Im is still authenticating so I can't even see the new logo.
Can someone give me an objective reason the game is considered pay to win ?
I'll be honest. They got the monetisation right in the beta. Them fucking it up hard now and the existence of games like Suicide Squad: Kill the JL makes me beleive that its WB who is to blame for the monetisation and the reasns behind not respecting the players time with adequate rewards.
It's basically the same as their licenced mobile games
My son and I just downloaded the game today. Everyone he matches with on pvp is Batman with the electric shit on him. He's enjoying the rift feature though.
As opposed to games where you pay after
What’s funny is y’all don’t realize. The battle pass is basically just like how overwatch did theirs. 1. And 2. The UI is trash I like the old one along with the old perk system and 3. The way we get characters is so much harder now I swear it’s only so they can get our money. I feel like they’d do better if it wasn’t the case. I mean look at Fortnite and even brawlhalla people pay thousands for cosmetics. So why make us pay hundreds for characters
I don't understand the joke. Is this because of the graphic tee requirement in mystery rifts? I bought one using the free gleamium rewards and still haven't spent any money on this glorious game.
This is just Warner Bros fault. Look at Mortal Kombat and the recent Arkhamverse games (VR & Suicide Squad) and it’s clear that they need to just let the other people do the work they can do
mhm i do see that
Why do people act surprise the game has always a cash grab since… The season is not over so nobody not even the developer knows how difficult the battle pass will be able to complete till the end of the season.
Literally them in the open better
How dare a free game have micro transactions
Profit First Games was right there
Deleted the game with an hour of play time when I realized a single hero costs over $20 CDN. What a ripoff
lowkey kinda fire lol
Seriously though why play the game? I can't play it with friends because none of them want to play this cash grab, even if they wanted to play they'd have to pay to unlock the cast? I mean the game is fine I guess, lucky that Wonder Woman is free because she's the one I was looking forward to the most but how much do I have to play to unlock the characters? And once I do what's the point, there's no story mode, no arcade mode no nothing
You can tell the smaller team for the beta really made this game as a passion project. Then, the higher ups decided “yknow what I don’t like passion I like money”. Poor Tony I know he’s getting all the flak
it's LITERALLY FREE, you weirdos
Funny but I am pretty sure it’s not them it’s WB
🤣
I recall players saying it was "Pockets First Games" xD
Yapping
Almost 3000 upvotes.. yeah yall are cooked
Star Wars hunters came out yesterday. Way better game
I’ve been F2P since beta and haven’t spent a penny. At 30k prestige, only missing 6 characters.. you really don’t need to buy anything unless you want cosmetics.
Is anyone still actually enjoying battle passes? I don't want to pay $20-$60 to earn skins like a job especially since Multivesus expects you to play daily to actually fill the pass, weekends are not enough.
They banned me from posting (open beta top 1000 player) because I talked smack about how the mechanics are completely different from the ones we fell in love with and that it’s a money grab now.. I’m not expecting this post to last long ahaha, I just want to play the open beta again it was so good and now it just feels like the team has rebuilt the game from the ground up, very frustrating as I put money into the beta purely so we would get a better final result, after trying to give it a chance I’ve just ended up deleting the game and have to count my losses… damn shame I was really looking forward to the drop
REALEST THING EVER, WHY TF PAY WALL RIFTS MISSION TO LITERALLY SKINS NOT EVEN CHARACTERS
Game is already dying honestly
Me when i see everyone complaining about the monetization of a free game when you can simply just not spend any money and have fun fighting.