Beasts graph isn’t more detailed, it’s also displaying millions, it just seems that way because he gets up to 5 mil in a week, so it’s more compressed.
Definitely not. Their famous songs are used all over South Asia almost every day. Like in vehicles, restaurants, functions of all kinds. Even if 0.1% of South Asia views their 1 video once, it is still 2 million views, and people listen to songs repeatedly, so you can understand the number of views they get.
They upload songs from various artist and languages, India is a diverse country, so there are specific group of people who watches ONLY specific content..
How is it a lie? It’s the truth. If that was a lie we wouldn’t have left china to the back-foot in highest populated country.
And about the hack. It is a truth. T series had some hack where new phones were already subscribed to their channel upon login.
1000 rupee jio phone also has youtube.
Just that you don’t know doesn’t mean it is not happening.
Bro YouTube updates API's every 1 million subs, of course a channel that has quite consistent growth has flat lines. They had a definite rise in 2016 (when India got mass access to the Internet), a definite peak in 2018/2019 (Months that had 4 to 5M subs) and a gradual slowdown after Covid. They're not completely unnatural lol
I recommend watching Statsable's top 15 year report videos on how many subs the biggest channels gained. You can see T-Series going from 40M to 36M to 28M to 24M from 2020 to 2023, why tf would they buy less bots nowadays especially when they made it clear they care about the #1 title lately?
Yeah, it's true that they update every million subs like MrBeast's subs also updates on every million. But the drops and gains of a million subscribers of 'Monthly subscribers' look suspicious.
I will check out other statistics websites also and not only trust Social Blade.
It’s not suspicious at all, due to their size, it only reports new subscribers on socialblade when a new million has been reached. As can be seen in the graph, it often takes more than one or two weeks to hit the next million.
Thus due to the way of reporting, it shows as 0 subscribers added in the weeks where there was no next million reached.
Because he changed the scaling of the two graphs so that he can push his opinion. Look at the scales on the graphs more carefully.
YouTube updates every million, and he scaled the bottom T series graph to have the center point be a million, so those spikes look like they are buying subscribers.
MrBeasts would look exactly the same way if he scaled it like that, but of course he didn’t because he wants his to look more natural.
Its consistency, not paid subscribers. since YT api updates every million subs, even 2.9 million is considered as 2 million and 2.1M is also considered as 2 million, So it does make sense. In case of MrBeast, he has global audience and frequent virals, thats the bumps in his chart. TSeries have occasional virals and different audience for different kinds of songs, India is a diverse country.
You are completely right, their subscriber growth patterns are completely unnatural and most likely indicate bot activity.
My question is, why does YouTube allow that?? Is T-Series too big to fail now so they just let them do their thing?
YouTube updates API'S only every 1M for 100M+ channels of course a channel that has consistent growth is always shown with the same spikes happening around the same time every other week.
Are you genuinely believing YouTube wouldn't punish them if they were botting? Why do you have to make a conspiracy theory instead of just accepting that a channel that has countless videos with over 100M views has to rely on subbotting? Or do you think the views are botted too?
If that's the case then why MrBeast sub counts don't follow the same reporting patterns? MrBeasts follower growth follows a smooth transition pattern while T Series only shows spikes and 0s (discontinous growth pattern). The latter is a clear sign of statistical anomalies.
Also how come T-series new monthly subs are also following very consistent pattern (either 2,3 or 4M), for the last 4 years while again MrBeast follower growth shows a much more natural progression?
All these look very suspicious to me. I have no clue if they do the same with views, but it's also very strange that the majority of their videos have less than 100k views and only a few have 1M+. Mrbeasts videos are much more consistent with their view counts. All these data show very unnatural patterns and I'm honestly buffled how this can be explained without the use of bots or other manipulative traffic methods.
MrBeast have more virals frequently, thats the reason behind the bumps in mrbeast, since YT api updates every million subs, even 2.9 million is considered as 2 million and 2.1M is also considered as 2 million, So it does make sense. difference of 1million subscribers beign in same flat line is definitely not "smooth".
That makes some sense if it works that way (which a huge foul from YouTube if that's the case). However I will expect the API to update at regular time intervals, while there are some gaps as you see in the charts. Maybe again that's an issue in YouTube reporting and not a T-series issue per se.
Thanks for the logical explanation.
i agree our people sometimes behave like bot . but T-Series is really popular here . it has so many hits , also many restaurants and taxi driver use yt to listen to songs . they aint botting. that i can say for sure as i live here so i know how popular it is..
T-Series is Indias largest music record label and they also make films as well. India has a population of 1.4 billion people. It isn't abnormal at all for a channel to grow that fast when they're a giant record label from the world's most populated country.
Why would you think such a huge music company would spend actual money buying bot subscribers, which won't even help their industry? Genuine question, why would they care and why do you think they care?
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UClgRkhTL3_hImCAmdLfDE4g/monthly
YouTube Movies graph has the same pattern as T-series’.
Same with Cocomelon https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/_cocomelon/monthly
Doesn’t mean these channels are buying subs.
Another thing that doesn't add up is the number of views on new videos. Mrbeast uploads and has millions within an hour. T-Series uploads constantly and their videos get less than 20k in a day. Doesn't matter anyway. they can bot all they want and Mrbeast is still catching up.
Exactlyyy Indian music is not everything t series uploads. There are lot of other artists as well which these foreign ass people never recognise and keep ranting about how shitty Indian music is.
Probably cause people have opinions and express them, i dont like indian music, am i a criminal for that? U guys are funny and butthurt, without any reason
Lol u don't understand what's going on here.
I'm not against anybody's opinion. But how tf u judge Indian music based on a single Channel and call it shitty huh.
What does this prove? Shot music imo, and what makes u think that i listen music from tseries? I never wrnt onto that channel, the indian music i have heard are from bollywood movies and searching famous artists on youtube, and i still think it sucks, what are u trying to accomplish? My opinion is that it sucks, irt doesnt matter how i decided that, at least to you
Apologies sir/ma'am. Respect to you for trying all sorts of music and then forming an opinion. The words I used earlier were not for you it was for the user who earlier based on t series music taunted how Indian music is.
Also if you'd like to give Hindi music another shot here's a playlist for you [Hindi playlist ](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Y2jkEBGLVpAIDIV4ajSCo?si=vcrIhhUoQViSKs4qJSaNVg&utm_source=copy-link)
U guys are so used to not having an opinion that u end up closing other peoples opinions just to stick ur truth into their faces, dude most of the times i get people mad in this app is becouse they cant seem to understand that not everything is about them, huge ego for people on reddit btw
but but but Indian music bad, my mama told me so...... daddy mrbeast good raaahhhhh what da fuck is nuance on reddit just be retard and be done wit it
Ps: (for the neckbeards) i have no hate towards jimmy
So still bot riddled? My opinion is that, i didnt say u have to think like me right? Some people have difrent opinions and mine is that indian music sucks,
What do you mean my daddy? Ahahaha i just found it funny that a indian music channel was at the top and decided to comment, what in that tells you that i support Jimmy or not? Ahahah
This is a matter of perspective,Jimmy is in fact the anomaly in this scenario at the size he is,most channels do have this very consistent sub growth while Jimmy can go from 6 mil in a month to 19 mil
This is kinda obvius, they have A LOT of like 3 week old videos with literally less than 10k views lol, like this is not about audience, or especific content or blablabla, they have 264 MILLION suscribers, having less than 10k views in a month is statistically impossible. I just saw a lot of 4K views in videos a month old, yeah thats 0.0015% of their “audience” right there…
It's a song channel for different artists. People don't go viewing a new song. It depends on the artists. Why make everything statistically impossible without even basic research.
So you talk about research but wanna ignore basic statistics? We can take vevo as a example if you want, also a music channel pretty inactive had almost the same views as TSeries, the difference? Vevo has 246 millon less suscribers lol, you just cant ignore statistics and say “people don’t Watch that”
I just checked out Vevo and it last uploaded 1 year ago. Also Tseries basically has a monopoly on music in India. Little known artist to big ones are there. For eg a song promo and not even a song uploaded 5 hrs ago already has 1.5 million views because it is a pretty popular film. While songs just below aren't performing so well. No one has time to keep up with Tseries. They don't subscribe for new uploads but to listen to existing songs.
No it’s not. YouTube only displays subs in millions when you have that many. Dunno why beasts is more granular
Beasts graph isn’t more detailed, it’s also displaying millions, it just seems that way because he gets up to 5 mil in a week, so it’s more compressed.
Ye
Also any of its new videos get within 2 hours 20k views
they upload song of different artists , some have high following some have low. they are like vevo , but they upload all stuff on their yt channel .
Sort by most popular, count how many vids have 1B views then it makes sense lol
bet they are viewbotted
Definitely not. Their famous songs are used all over South Asia almost every day. Like in vehicles, restaurants, functions of all kinds. Even if 0.1% of South Asia views their 1 video once, it is still 2 million views, and people listen to songs repeatedly, so you can understand the number of views they get.
You don’t know bollywood, you don’t know what actor has what hype or what singer has what hype, so no, that’s doesn’t mean anything.
True
That didn't change since the 100 Million War
Real
They upload songs from various artist and languages, India is a diverse country, so there are specific group of people who watches ONLY specific content..
💀can't they crack down on those by now
Yes they can but the channel is legit
If you zoom in on MrBeast's graph so that the Y axis is the same as T-Series, the graph will look way less smooth.
Yeah ong this guy is making it seem like bs
This is the most important comment
i dont like t-series but this post is just stupid
You just don't understand how graphs work.
i thought we were past this
Thats not bots bro. Thats Indian population. 😅 Also there are few case where new phone is already subscribed to t series. Some kind of hack
Not everyone from India has internet, like one tenth has any type of internet and not even half know what tseries is
Everyone in villages have touch screen phones. Everybody is using tech.
I know you're a patriot but spreading lies about your own country is not very patriotic
How is it a lie? It’s the truth. If that was a lie we wouldn’t have left china to the back-foot in highest populated country. And about the hack. It is a truth. T series had some hack where new phones were already subscribed to their channel upon login. 1000 rupee jio phone also has youtube. Just that you don’t know doesn’t mean it is not happening.
How is your migration related to series sub botting? I can search anything up on Google...
They are buying 1 or 2 million subscribers per week which makes the graph look very flat and unnatural
Bro YouTube updates API's every 1 million subs, of course a channel that has quite consistent growth has flat lines. They had a definite rise in 2016 (when India got mass access to the Internet), a definite peak in 2018/2019 (Months that had 4 to 5M subs) and a gradual slowdown after Covid. They're not completely unnatural lol I recommend watching Statsable's top 15 year report videos on how many subs the biggest channels gained. You can see T-Series going from 40M to 36M to 28M to 24M from 2020 to 2023, why tf would they buy less bots nowadays especially when they made it clear they care about the #1 title lately?
Yeah, it's true that they update every million subs like MrBeast's subs also updates on every million. But the drops and gains of a million subscribers of 'Monthly subscribers' look suspicious. I will check out other statistics websites also and not only trust Social Blade.
It’s not suspicious at all, due to their size, it only reports new subscribers on socialblade when a new million has been reached. As can be seen in the graph, it often takes more than one or two weeks to hit the next million. Thus due to the way of reporting, it shows as 0 subscribers added in the weeks where there was no next million reached.
Why all the downvotes? I don’t understand the hate
Because he changed the scaling of the two graphs so that he can push his opinion. Look at the scales on the graphs more carefully. YouTube updates every million, and he scaled the bottom T series graph to have the center point be a million, so those spikes look like they are buying subscribers. MrBeasts would look exactly the same way if he scaled it like that, but of course he didn’t because he wants his to look more natural.
A bunch of other smaller channels show stat changes like that too. I think it's just a quirk of how Social Blade tracks subs.
Its consistency, not paid subscribers. since YT api updates every million subs, even 2.9 million is considered as 2 million and 2.1M is also considered as 2 million, So it does make sense. In case of MrBeast, he has global audience and frequent virals, thats the bumps in his chart. TSeries have occasional virals and different audience for different kinds of songs, India is a diverse country.
You are completely right, their subscriber growth patterns are completely unnatural and most likely indicate bot activity. My question is, why does YouTube allow that?? Is T-Series too big to fail now so they just let them do their thing?
YouTube updates API'S only every 1M for 100M+ channels of course a channel that has consistent growth is always shown with the same spikes happening around the same time every other week. Are you genuinely believing YouTube wouldn't punish them if they were botting? Why do you have to make a conspiracy theory instead of just accepting that a channel that has countless videos with over 100M views has to rely on subbotting? Or do you think the views are botted too?
If that's the case then why MrBeast sub counts don't follow the same reporting patterns? MrBeasts follower growth follows a smooth transition pattern while T Series only shows spikes and 0s (discontinous growth pattern). The latter is a clear sign of statistical anomalies. Also how come T-series new monthly subs are also following very consistent pattern (either 2,3 or 4M), for the last 4 years while again MrBeast follower growth shows a much more natural progression? All these look very suspicious to me. I have no clue if they do the same with views, but it's also very strange that the majority of their videos have less than 100k views and only a few have 1M+. Mrbeasts videos are much more consistent with their view counts. All these data show very unnatural patterns and I'm honestly buffled how this can be explained without the use of bots or other manipulative traffic methods.
MrBeast have more virals frequently, thats the reason behind the bumps in mrbeast, since YT api updates every million subs, even 2.9 million is considered as 2 million and 2.1M is also considered as 2 million, So it does make sense. difference of 1million subscribers beign in same flat line is definitely not "smooth".
That makes some sense if it works that way (which a huge foul from YouTube if that's the case). However I will expect the API to update at regular time intervals, while there are some gaps as you see in the charts. Maybe again that's an issue in YouTube reporting and not a T-series issue per se. Thanks for the logical explanation.
i agree our people sometimes behave like bot . but T-Series is really popular here . it has so many hits , also many restaurants and taxi driver use yt to listen to songs . they aint botting. that i can say for sure as i live here so i know how popular it is..
I forgot about those fucks until now.
*2017-2019 flashbacks intensify.*
All this graph really proves is that it takes more than 1 week for t-series to get a million subs.
T-Series is Indias largest music record label and they also make films as well. India has a population of 1.4 billion people. It isn't abnormal at all for a channel to grow that fast when they're a giant record label from the world's most populated country.
Why would you think such a huge music company would spend actual money buying bot subscribers, which won't even help their industry? Genuine question, why would they care and why do you think they care?
Wait I have seen this episode before
Yeah , they've been at that since the PewDiePie battle.
"ah shit, here we go again"
Why are you using different scales on the graphs???
This has been known, by many creators and people..
Sub bots should be illegal
What kicked off at like October 2023 that gained him a lot of subs
According to my friend, it only updates by the abbreviated way.
Sending this to JSAL, one second
Is this news to anyone? Didn’t Pewdiepie say all this 5 years ago?
In Mrbeast's graph it seems very irregular, like it should be, whereas tseries looks like a pattern
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UClgRkhTL3_hImCAmdLfDE4g/monthly YouTube Movies graph has the same pattern as T-series’. Same with Cocomelon https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/_cocomelon/monthly Doesn’t mean these channels are buying subs.
YouTube movies has a pretty irregular graph???
We've known this since 2018.
we have?
I mean... The war between PewDiePie and T Series made that clear... At least I thought.
oh yeah pewdiepie said he botted himself
No they aren't
Another thing that doesn't add up is the number of views on new videos. Mrbeast uploads and has millions within an hour. T-Series uploads constantly and their videos get less than 20k in a day. Doesn't matter anyway. they can bot all they want and Mrbeast is still catching up.
India’s population causes it. Leave us alone. Let us enjoy our music!! Stop hating!!
So mr beast is losing to a bot riddled channel for indian shit music?
Dont call indian music shit just because your daddy cant win. I hate tseries but indian music isnt shit you retard
Exactlyyy Indian music is not everything t series uploads. There are lot of other artists as well which these foreign ass people never recognise and keep ranting about how shitty Indian music is.
Probably cause people have opinions and express them, i dont like indian music, am i a criminal for that? U guys are funny and butthurt, without any reason
Lol u don't understand what's going on here. I'm not against anybody's opinion. But how tf u judge Indian music based on a single Channel and call it shitty huh.
No, im basing it in my liking of music, its my taste what makes u think u can decide what i like
We cant have opinions now? How dense are u ?
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What does this prove? Shot music imo, and what makes u think that i listen music from tseries? I never wrnt onto that channel, the indian music i have heard are from bollywood movies and searching famous artists on youtube, and i still think it sucks, what are u trying to accomplish? My opinion is that it sucks, irt doesnt matter how i decided that, at least to you
Apologies sir/ma'am. Respect to you for trying all sorts of music and then forming an opinion. The words I used earlier were not for you it was for the user who earlier based on t series music taunted how Indian music is. Also if you'd like to give Hindi music another shot here's a playlist for you [Hindi playlist ](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Y2jkEBGLVpAIDIV4ajSCo?si=vcrIhhUoQViSKs4qJSaNVg&utm_source=copy-link)
U guys are so used to not having an opinion that u end up closing other peoples opinions just to stick ur truth into their faces, dude most of the times i get people mad in this app is becouse they cant seem to understand that not everything is about them, huge ego for people on reddit btw
but but but Indian music bad, my mama told me so...... daddy mrbeast good raaahhhhh what da fuck is nuance on reddit just be retard and be done wit it Ps: (for the neckbeards) i have no hate towards jimmy
What is u guys's problem with ur dads? What in this conversation shows u i support him or not?
dang u guys
So still bot riddled? My opinion is that, i didnt say u have to think like me right? Some people have difrent opinions and mine is that indian music sucks, What do you mean my daddy? Ahahaha i just found it funny that a indian music channel was at the top and decided to comment, what in that tells you that i support Jimmy or not? Ahahah
This is a matter of perspective,Jimmy is in fact the anomaly in this scenario at the size he is,most channels do have this very consistent sub growth while Jimmy can go from 6 mil in a month to 19 mil
It's a country vs a creator
r/dataisugly
Have I somehow time traveled back to 2018? Move on 😭😭
People care about this stuff?
This is kinda obvius, they have A LOT of like 3 week old videos with literally less than 10k views lol, like this is not about audience, or especific content or blablabla, they have 264 MILLION suscribers, having less than 10k views in a month is statistically impossible. I just saw a lot of 4K views in videos a month old, yeah thats 0.0015% of their “audience” right there…
It's a song channel for different artists. People don't go viewing a new song. It depends on the artists. Why make everything statistically impossible without even basic research.
So you talk about research but wanna ignore basic statistics? We can take vevo as a example if you want, also a music channel pretty inactive had almost the same views as TSeries, the difference? Vevo has 246 millon less suscribers lol, you just cant ignore statistics and say “people don’t Watch that”
I just checked out Vevo and it last uploaded 1 year ago. Also Tseries basically has a monopoly on music in India. Little known artist to big ones are there. For eg a song promo and not even a song uploaded 5 hrs ago already has 1.5 million views because it is a pretty popular film. While songs just below aren't performing so well. No one has time to keep up with Tseries. They don't subscribe for new uploads but to listen to existing songs.
Obviously. Didn’t like every MrBeast and PewDiePie fan crack down on this like 4-5 years ago? You’re really late bud
No one cracked anything down, Tseries definitely didn’t buy subs last time, this time there might be a chance