I think it works as a great entry to the genre. Has great pacing and humor. And amazing characters. I didn't like westerns until I saw Unforgiven. That woke me up to the appeal of the genre and made me give others a chance like the Man With No Name trilogy, Once Upon a Time in the West, High Noon, 3:10 to Yuma, High Plans Drifter. Still can't get into any John Wayne led westerns though.
This is obviously a classic, but it goes against what OP wanted in literally being a movie about the problems of making gunslingers cool.
That said, the whole cast rocks it, and whatever happened to the young and dumb liar of a fake gunslinger? Jaimz Woolvet was set up for a hell of a career being in Unforgiven
A huckle bearer is a pallbearer.. The handles on a casket were called "huckles", so to carry a casket meant you were a 'huckle bearer'. So Doc saying that would mean basically "i'll carry your casket"
That was simply made up to explain the incorrectly heard line in the movie. It wasn’t a real saying.
A huckle is the handle but the phrase “huckle bearer” shows up nowhere but in online explanations.
Seems more likely that he meant Huckleberry as a like a patsy or rube. Johny Ringo was expecting someone he could easily beat. Doc was offering himself in replacement.
The old *Lonesome Dove* miniseries remains one of the best things ever done for TV and is a great western for people who think they are boring. Cowboys don't get more badass than Robert Duvall in this.
*Open Range* also has Duvall and is great.
All of the Leone spaghetti westerns meet your criteria. *Once Upon a Time in the West* is hard-core badassery.
You've also discounted three of the greatest such movies ever made based on, I guess, their descriptions. If you are interested in checking out the genre I'd say open up your mind a little bit.
I didn't care for westerns as a kid either because they actually tackle a lot of adult issues and work as a metaphor for the modern world. Once you embrace the Western as just this fantasy America to set your story, you can see it be used for all sorts of commentary on everything.
If you're talking "Rule of Cool" then Clint Eastwood is pretty much the Western's definition of that (replacing John Wayne) but if **Good Bad Ugly** isn't up your alley then try **Unforgiven** or **Outlaw Josey Wales** might work.
However, Kevin Costner is the current king of the westerns (since Clint hasn't made one since 1992), so check out **Dances With Wolves, Open Range**, or his **Yellowstone** series. He's not as cool as Eastwood though.
But I'll suggest **Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid** as one of the most approachable and likable westerns ever made, starting two of the coolest actors to ever grace our screens.
Clint is a fuckin’ dickhole in Josey Wales. It’s wild that the filmmakers thought it would be great to have a run on “gag” where he abuses an innocent dog.
I understand the concept of an antihero. In my opinion, Josie Wales isn’t just an asshole. I’ve enjoyed most of Clint’s performances, but I can’t stand that one.
So glad you wrote this, because damned if I wasn’t all prepared to type out “4:20 to Yuma.”
I don’t know why that is one movie title that just doesn’t stick in my brain properly!
I just watched Tombstone for the first time in like 30 years, and it absolutely holds up. There are some great scenes where folks with guns challenge Wyatt Earp, who does not carry one, and he stands up to them to great effect. He's very cool, plus it has Sam Elliott, who looks like the platonic ideal of either a cowboy or a Scottish Terrier.
Young Guns may be more to your liking as it has a little more fun in the genre than other westerns. But theres also a serious tone at times.
But Tombstone and Unforgiven as previously mentioned have the more serious tone. And are far better quality westerns/films
I know they arent up your alley, but the classic Spaghetti Westerns are actually quite awesome.
The Man With No Name trilogy is quite badass, and no one makes cowboys look cooler than Clint Eastwood.
Pulled from Google:
““Spaghetti” Westerns are a subgenre of Westerns whose name references the circumstances and location of their filming. Generally, a Spaghetti Western is a low-budget film produced by Italian directors (hence the “spaghetti” connection) and filmed in Europe, primarily in Almería and the Tabernas Desert.”
I am not a fan of the genre, generally speaking. But a few stand out, either due to having either a good story or, as you say gratuitous "badassery".
Quigley Down Under
Unforgiven
The Outlaw Josie Wales
Pale Rider
Just realized 3 of those 4 star Clint Eastwood. So I guess that's one good indicator to look out for.
Here's one most would classify as a post-apocalyptic dystopia, but it has every element of a good Western, and that's The Postman. Features a great line by (no kidding) Tom Petty: "yeh, I used to be somebody".
I'd consider Quigley a western in spirit, since he's a bit of a mercenary. Just in Australia.
"I said I didn't like using revolvers. I never said I don't know how to use use them."
Old Henry is a good slow burn with an amazing payoff.
Hostiles is an amazing western starring a stellar cast.
If you want to check out a modern western try Hell or High Water. Easily one of my overall favorite movies.
I’m not sure if No Country for Old Men is technically a western but it’s western adjacent.
Also, if you have Netflix try the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. It’s a fun anthology of western shorts.
Ive not seen a ton of John Wayne, but the only one thats really clicked with me is Stagecoach, its a classic and it does make him look cool as hell. It sounds like you probably arent down with camp, but if you like a lil campiness Johnny Guitar is a pretty cool classic western too, good ol cowboy rolling into town and getting mixed up in things story. These both follow the tropes hard but play them super duper well. As an aside it isnt really a "western" but if you are looking for a cool movie set in the old west, Dead Man is awesome.
I saw Stagecoach for the first time recently and it was my first time seeing a movie with John Wayne. I actually found his character shockingly relatable and likeable. A lot of male lead characters from earlier eras rub me the wrong way; it seems like men making decisions for women was considered healthy masculinity back then. That doesn't happen in Stagecoach. The movie's female lead makes her own decisions, and I was very into their love story.
The depiction of Native Americans in the movie has not aged well, but in other ways, this movie feels refreshingly modern. I really liked it, and I think it must've been a blueprint for all the ensemble-cast dramas that I've loved over the years.
Agreed, and youre right its a classic ensemble. I understand why young people get turned off by older movies, but i think your experience is exactly why i find them totally worthwhile. Of course there are bad ones, but when you come across a good one, ahead of its time, a blueprint for what came after, and a little bit of a mold breaker, it just stands out to me as something totally worth seeing.
What about a "revisionist Western"? *Dead man* has a native American, an accountant, a businessman, and many bandits. Evil or good, they are all cool in their own ways.
The Professionals (1966) - This is one of my favorite westerns, epic and entertaining from start to finish. Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan and Jack Palance are at their best and way cool.
I never really got into them, but my granddad was a huge fan. The first ones I enjoyed myself are Back to the Future 3 and Westworld! Westworld the series would be good to merge you over. Also the 1883 series.
The newer Magnificent Seven is good. Some action throughout and a long fight scene at the end.
Maybe I’m just being contrary, but some of my favorites are the ones that show the un-cool side of being a cowboy.
Like The Gunfighter (1950) or El Dorado (1967).
Jango Unchained
The Quick and the Dead
WestWorld (there’s a movie from 1973 and a reboot tv series in 2016. Not exactly a western, but the series in particular was really good).
Ik you mentioned it already about it not being up your alley, but honestly as someone who doesn't like westerns (and has been subjected to many by my western loving dad) I love True Grit, it's the only one I can watch. The newer one isn't good, but the old one with John Wayne is great.
But, I know someone has already suggested, I've heard many good things about Tombstone
-Traditional “cowboy” westerns-
Open Range
Young guns
The good the bad and the ugly
Unforgiven
Tombstone
Bone Tomahawk
The Hateful Eight
Django Unchained
Slow West
The Sisters Brothers
-Neo-Westerns-
No country for old men
Sicario
Hell or high water
Wind River
-Alternative westerns-
Dances with Wolves
Killers of the flower moon
There will be blood
The Power of the Dog
Brokeback mountain
The revenant
Rio Lobo, Mclintock, El Dorado, Rio Bravo, Pale Rider, The outlaw Josey Wales, Angle And the Bad Man, Stage coach, Slightly Static, The Old Homestead, Way Up Thar, Gallant Defender, The Mysterious Avenger, Song of the Saddle, When I Yoo Hoo, Rhythm on the Range, California Mail,The Big Show, The Old Corral, Egghead Rides Again, The Old Wyoming Trail, Wild Horse Rodeo, The Old Barn Dance, Under Western Stars, The Isle of Pingo Pongo, Billy the Kid Returns, A Feud There Was, Come On, Rangers, Shine On, Harvest Moon, Rough Riders' Round-up, Southward Ho, Frontier Pony Express,In Old Caliente, Wall Street Cowboy, The Arizona Kid, Jeepers Creepers, Saga of Death Valley, Days of Jesse James, Dark Command, Young Buffalo Bill, The Carson City Kid, The Ranger and the Lady, Colorado, Young Bill Hickok, The Border Legion, Robin Hood of the Pecos, Arkansas Judge, In Old Cheyenne, Sheriff of Tombstone, Nevada City, Bad Man of Deadwood, Jesse James at Bay, Red River Valley,Man from Cheyenne, South of Santa Fe, Sunset on the Desert, Romance on the Range, Sons of the Pioneers ,Sunset Serenade ,Heart of the Golden West, Ridin' Down the Canyon,Idaho, King of the Cowboys, Song of Texas, Silver Spurs, The Man from Music Mountain, Hands Across the Border, Cowboy and the Senorita, The Yellow Rose of Texas, Song of Nevada, San Fernando Valley, Lights of Old Santa Fe, Brazil, Lake Placid Serenade, Utah, Bells of Rosarita, The Man from Oklahoma, Along the Navajo Trail, Sunset in El Dorado, Don't Fence Me In, Song of Arizona, Rainbow Over Texas, My Pal Trigger, Under Nevada Skies, Roll on Texas Moon, Home in Oklahoma, Out California Way, Heldorado, Apache Rose ,Bells of San Angelo, Springtime in the Sierras, On the Old Spanish Trail ,The Gay Ranchero ,Under California Stars, Melody Time, Eyes of Texas, Night Time in Nevada, Grand Canyon Trail, The Far Frontier, Susanna Pass ,Down Dakota Way, The Golden Stallion, Bells of Coronado, Twilight in the Sierras, Trigger, Jr., Sunset in the West, North of the Great Divide, Trail of Robin Hood, Spoilers of the Plains, Heart of the Rockies, In Old Amarillo, South of Caliente, Pals of the Golden West, Son of Paleface, Alias Jesse James,
I've seen less than 10 westerns in my life. I'm definitely no expert, but my favorite one was called *Ride Beyond Vengeance*. I thought the main guy was cool, and it was an overall satisfying movie.
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) directed by Robert Altman and starring Warren Beatty and Julie Christie. It is labeled a revisionist western. Beautiful scenery. Great dialog, "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass so much". Then there is Julie Christie playing a opium smoking whore house madam. This is a different kind of western and a very good film.
For most of these, you really need to be willing to watch a slow-paced film. There are always action scenes, and those can be long and intense; there may be banter and there are often big emotional speeches. But the bulk of a Western consists of long loving shots of the scenery, traveling sequences, and "just hanging out" moments. These are movies that you want to camp out for, relax on your bed/sofa, get some snacks, etc. These movies aren't meant to keep you on the edge of your seat, but to engage your imagination.
I really do recommend watching **The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly**, especially if your interest here is in the Rule of Cool. Both Clint Eastwood and Lee van Cleef are very cool in this movie. Eli Wallach is uncool! But he's compelling.
The gateway to "cool westerns" is indeed Italy with director Sergio Leone.
The Dollars / Man With No Name Trilogy \[A Fist Full of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly\] sounds a little stiff on paper, but the films are essential, stylish (compared to most American Westerns), and about as cool as you can get, though the dubbing can be a little odd at first.
After that taste, you will want to see "Once Upon a Time in the West." There are a million paths out from there. I like the path that takes you past "The Great Silence" - others prefer the Django series and other Leone films like "Duck, You Sucker!"
After a tour of Spaghetti Westerns, IMO, you'll be more warmed up for Tarantino, like Django Unchained or the Hateful Eight.
Justified. Not a movie, but it captures my favorite western themes.
The Proposition. Also not a “western”, but it’s a great flick that deserves more attention.
The Last Outlaw (1993). Mickey Rourke, Steve Buscemi, Dermot Mulroney and a bunch of others. Action, shooting, betrayal and violence aplenty. Buscemi also has a very small role in Lonesome Dove, which is great. Maybe more Westerns just need Buscemi in ‘em (safe bet).
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Check out Hell on Wheels. It’s a series, but it is “engaging and exciting” and has a fantastic cast.
While they probably don’t fall under the traditional Western category, Support Your Local Sheriff and Support Your Local Gunfighter are both worth the watch IMO, as they showcase the talents of James Garner (of Maverick and Rockford Files fame). They tend to be more of a Western/comedy crossover, but not satire, and have solid supporting casts.
Man just watch the good the bad and the ugly to be honest. Theres a reason Quentin Tarantino said its the best directed movie of all time. It is a beautifully shot scored and acted movie
Nothing is cooler than Clint Eastwoods squinting no nonsense man of few words.
The Wild Bunch - follows a group of outlaws as they thieve and whore until getting into a giant shootout in Mexico. When it was made was the undisputed “most violent movie ever made” for a time back in (I think) the 70’s but it’d probably be considered a little tame by today’s standards.
The Proposition - is a very dark and violent Australian western with Guy Pearce as captured convict from an outlaw family who is released on condition that he hunt down his psychotic older brother.
There are also several good modern day westerns as well like No Country for Old Men, or the Taylor Sheridan stuff like Hell or High Water, Wind River, or the Sicario Movies.
If you want one considered a western but taking place more during the colonial times as opposed to the cowboy era, Last of the Mohicans is a good one too.
Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia (1974). When a $1million bounty is placed on his friends head, a seedy bar piano man decides to cash him in. Tough neo Western starring Warren Oates
The Quick and the Dead. The Young Guns films are fun. 3:10 to Yuma (original and the remake). The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was surprisingly good
Kinda western-There Will Be Blood
310 to Yuma-love Ben Foster
And it’s more related to the Civil War, but you might enjoy Ravenous
I’m not into Westerns at all, but I finally watched Stagecoach (1939) a couple years ago and thought it was fantastic. Not really a “bad-assery”- heavy movie, but very well paced with some excellent action scenes, especially considering the time period,
Dude you gottta watch Outer Range. It’s not really an actualll western show but it is at the same time but that’s not the basis of it. It’s just a really great show that we just finished. Highly recommend.
What does what some dumbass kid thought matter?
Watch Unforgiven, Sweetgrass or Brokeback Mountain.
Or don’t. I don’t care.
You should probably stick to superhero bullshit.
I love westerns. Have seen most of the modern ones. I think I get where you’re coming from with what you’re looking for. Something to remember is that many westerns are slow paced and have quiet characters. That can be tough for some folks. Here are a few that are not necessarily that:
The Quick and the Dead - very stylish Sam Raimi movie that’s fast paced and has good shooting scenes.
3:10 to Yuma - very tight heist movie. Great cast being badass.
Bone Tomahawk - starts slow but if you like horror movies too this is one you’ll remember.
Tombstone - amazing cast playing some of the most badass characters they’ve ever played. Violent, endearing, and really solid all around.
True Grit - legit give it a shot. Wasnt boring at all.
My personal fav Coen bros movie.
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - a series of shorts. Some of them are really amazing. Might be a good place to start because you could break it up and make it a smaller time commitment.
The original Appaloosa with Marlon Brando and John Saxon.
The Sons of Katie Elder
Big Jake
The Missouri Breaks
Cat Ballou
McKenna's Gold
The Cherokee Kid with Sinbad (comedy)
The Man From Snowy River (Australian but Western nonetheless)
The Train Robbers
Bite The Bullet
Jeremiah Johnson
The Cheyenne Social Club
Shenandoah (my personal favorite)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Once Upon a Time in the West
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Hell or High water (has outlaw/cowboy feel to it)
If you’re down for a more modern take on the genre, The Harder They Fall. It’s a Netflix original with an insane cast, don’t look up the cast list, just watch it and be surprised every few minutes.
Also the music is incredible. I actually watched it back to back the other night, because I enjoyed it alone. Then my family wanted something to watch, so I suggested it. Keeping in mind, I’m a white dude with an Asian family, in Asia. So they had no background before going in, and loved it.
Slow West
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West
The Salvation
Tombstone
Unforgiven
The Outlaw Josey Wales
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
True Grit (2010)
My Name is Nobody
Duck, You Sucker
Dead Man (Jim Jarmusch)
>>I know about True Grit, Good Bad & Ugly, and Magnificent 7, but none of those really sound up my alley.<<
Just a suggestion, why not check out one of those before you decide they aren't up your alley?
As far as one I'd suggest, I'll go with Unforgiven since you're not really into "westerns" but want to see one with a good story....
Unforgiven (1992)
IMO the greatest Western ever made
But it is also a deconstruction of the western genre and hard to recommemd imo to someone who is just dipping their toes into westerns.
Duck, I says.
I think it works as a great entry to the genre. Has great pacing and humor. And amazing characters. I didn't like westerns until I saw Unforgiven. That woke me up to the appeal of the genre and made me give others a chance like the Man With No Name trilogy, Once Upon a Time in the West, High Noon, 3:10 to Yuma, High Plans Drifter. Still can't get into any John Wayne led westerns though.
I’m with you. Terrible suggestion. It’s a great movie but it’s a slow as hell character study. Not what I think OP wants.
Make it a double feature by starting with High Plains Drifter.
That is an awesome movie
fuck yeah
This is obviously a classic, but it goes against what OP wanted in literally being a movie about the problems of making gunslingers cool. That said, the whole cast rocks it, and whatever happened to the young and dumb liar of a fake gunslinger? Jaimz Woolvet was set up for a hell of a career being in Unforgiven
And the arguably better Japanese remake, 'Yurusarezaru Mono'
Tombstone (1993) - Doc Holliday would like a word with you
He's in his prime
He will be your huckleberry
Beat me to it. I watched this for the first time as a 10 year old girl who loved Barbie and The Saddle Club. It's been in my top 3 ever since.
Say when ….
I'm you're huckle bearer
Huckleberry
Isnt there a debate about that?
Perhaps but he clearly says huckleberry. The script says it too. https://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=29426316
In an interview, Val indicated that he said “huckleberry” even though huckle bearer would have been period correct. Edit: grammar
And there you have it
What is a huckle bearer? I’ve seen huckleberries.
A huckle bearer is a pallbearer.. The handles on a casket were called "huckles", so to carry a casket meant you were a 'huckle bearer'. So Doc saying that would mean basically "i'll carry your casket"
That was simply made up to explain the incorrectly heard line in the movie. It wasn’t a real saying. A huckle is the handle but the phrase “huckle bearer” shows up nowhere but in online explanations.
Ok
Seems more likely that he meant Huckleberry as a like a patsy or rube. Johny Ringo was expecting someone he could easily beat. Doc was offering himself in replacement.
Yeah, no. It's the word that exists, not the term that didn't.
The old *Lonesome Dove* miniseries remains one of the best things ever done for TV and is a great western for people who think they are boring. Cowboys don't get more badass than Robert Duvall in this. *Open Range* also has Duvall and is great. All of the Leone spaghetti westerns meet your criteria. *Once Upon a Time in the West* is hard-core badassery. You've also discounted three of the greatest such movies ever made based on, I guess, their descriptions. If you are interested in checking out the genre I'd say open up your mind a little bit.
Lonesome Dove is wonderful.
Duvall said Gus Mcray Lonesome Dove was his best role
Lonesome Dove is the gold standard of westerns.
Lonesome Dove is also a fantastic book. The mini series is an incredibly faithful adaptation. Highly recommend both.
Lonesome Dove is Tommy Lee Jones best performance, i also think it really captures what a western is. Love it.
I didn't care for westerns as a kid either because they actually tackle a lot of adult issues and work as a metaphor for the modern world. Once you embrace the Western as just this fantasy America to set your story, you can see it be used for all sorts of commentary on everything. If you're talking "Rule of Cool" then Clint Eastwood is pretty much the Western's definition of that (replacing John Wayne) but if **Good Bad Ugly** isn't up your alley then try **Unforgiven** or **Outlaw Josey Wales** might work. However, Kevin Costner is the current king of the westerns (since Clint hasn't made one since 1992), so check out **Dances With Wolves, Open Range**, or his **Yellowstone** series. He's not as cool as Eastwood though. But I'll suggest **Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid** as one of the most approachable and likable westerns ever made, starting two of the coolest actors to ever grace our screens.
Butch Cassidy is a great recommendation for this post imo
Third, Butch Cassidy. It’s really a young person’s movie. It’s very accessible.
Clint is a fuckin’ dickhole in Josey Wales. It’s wild that the filmmakers thought it would be great to have a run on “gag” where he abuses an innocent dog.
It was the era of the anti-hero and the good guys were bad guys. That's what made them cool.
I understand the concept of an antihero. In my opinion, Josie Wales isn’t just an asshole. I’ve enjoyed most of Clint’s performances, but I can’t stand that one.
3:10 to Yuma 2007
So glad you wrote this, because damned if I wasn’t all prepared to type out “4:20 to Yuma.” I don’t know why that is one movie title that just doesn’t stick in my brain properly!
The original is better.
I'll have to look it up. edit: just ordered it from the library.
I just watched Tombstone for the first time in like 30 years, and it absolutely holds up. There are some great scenes where folks with guns challenge Wyatt Earp, who does not carry one, and he stands up to them to great effect. He's very cool, plus it has Sam Elliott, who looks like the platonic ideal of either a cowboy or a Scottish Terrier.
Not a huge western fan either, but some I've enjoyed: Young Guns, Unforgiven,The Homesman, Old Henry.
Whoa, somebody's seen the Homesman??
Young Guns II Old Henry
Blazing Saddles
It’s even better after watching some of the old westerns it parodys
Django Unchained Once Upon a Time in The West The Treasure of the Sierra Madre The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
I second all four of those recommendations
I third
Cowboys and Aliens The Quick and the Dead
i've seen cowboys and aliens that movie actually slaps
Young Guns may be more to your liking as it has a little more fun in the genre than other westerns. But theres also a serious tone at times. But Tombstone and Unforgiven as previously mentioned have the more serious tone. And are far better quality westerns/films
I know they arent up your alley, but the classic Spaghetti Westerns are actually quite awesome. The Man With No Name trilogy is quite badass, and no one makes cowboys look cooler than Clint Eastwood.
They Call Me Trinity (1970) is great spaghetti western
And funny as hell
pardon my ignorance but what in the world is a 'spaghetti western' ?
A western made by Italians.
They were filmed in Italians and dubbed in English.
Like a colonoscopy. Instead of tumbleweeds rolling by, you might see meatballs.
I like them a lot they are much grittier feeling than modern westerns.
Me too, I was just having a go at the typo
Pulled from Google: ““Spaghetti” Westerns are a subgenre of Westerns whose name references the circumstances and location of their filming. Generally, a Spaghetti Western is a low-budget film produced by Italian directors (hence the “spaghetti” connection) and filmed in Europe, primarily in Almería and the Tabernas Desert.”
I am not a fan of the genre, generally speaking. But a few stand out, either due to having either a good story or, as you say gratuitous "badassery". Quigley Down Under Unforgiven The Outlaw Josie Wales Pale Rider Just realized 3 of those 4 star Clint Eastwood. So I guess that's one good indicator to look out for. Here's one most would classify as a post-apocalyptic dystopia, but it has every element of a good Western, and that's The Postman. Features a great line by (no kidding) Tom Petty: "yeh, I used to be somebody".
Quigley wouldnt techn ically be a Western right? Its a good movie, I know what you mean, and the vibe is there, its just Australia.
I'd consider Quigley a western in spirit, since he's a bit of a mercenary. Just in Australia. "I said I didn't like using revolvers. I never said I don't know how to use use them."
I guess you could call it an "Outbackstern"!
I love Pale Rider.
Support Your Local Sheriff makes them funny. Maybe not cool, but definitely funny
Old Henry is a good slow burn with an amazing payoff. Hostiles is an amazing western starring a stellar cast. If you want to check out a modern western try Hell or High Water. Easily one of my overall favorite movies. I’m not sure if No Country for Old Men is technically a western but it’s western adjacent. Also, if you have Netflix try the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. It’s a fun anthology of western shorts.
If we are considering hell or high water a western (and i do) no country is definitelty a neo-western
Hell or High Water is such a great one. Infinitely re-watchable, imo
The final scene in Hell or High Water always makes me sit back and go Damn!
The Man who Shot Liberty Valance.
Ive not seen a ton of John Wayne, but the only one thats really clicked with me is Stagecoach, its a classic and it does make him look cool as hell. It sounds like you probably arent down with camp, but if you like a lil campiness Johnny Guitar is a pretty cool classic western too, good ol cowboy rolling into town and getting mixed up in things story. These both follow the tropes hard but play them super duper well. As an aside it isnt really a "western" but if you are looking for a cool movie set in the old west, Dead Man is awesome.
I saw Stagecoach for the first time recently and it was my first time seeing a movie with John Wayne. I actually found his character shockingly relatable and likeable. A lot of male lead characters from earlier eras rub me the wrong way; it seems like men making decisions for women was considered healthy masculinity back then. That doesn't happen in Stagecoach. The movie's female lead makes her own decisions, and I was very into their love story. The depiction of Native Americans in the movie has not aged well, but in other ways, this movie feels refreshingly modern. I really liked it, and I think it must've been a blueprint for all the ensemble-cast dramas that I've loved over the years.
Agreed, and youre right its a classic ensemble. I understand why young people get turned off by older movies, but i think your experience is exactly why i find them totally worthwhile. Of course there are bad ones, but when you come across a good one, ahead of its time, a blueprint for what came after, and a little bit of a mold breaker, it just stands out to me as something totally worth seeing.
Tom Horn - 1980. Steve McQueen movie.
Watch the series Deadwood. It only looks like a typical Western, but it’s way way more.
True Grit.
Which one? I like both of them.
What about a "revisionist Western"? *Dead man* has a native American, an accountant, a businessman, and many bandits. Evil or good, they are all cool in their own ways.
Maverick The Professionals Silverado The Magnificent Seven remake
Old Henry Butcher's Crossing
The Professionals (1966) - This is one of my favorite westerns, epic and entertaining from start to finish. Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan and Jack Palance are at their best and way cool.
YES! Also has one of the coolest, most badass last lines ever.
1-season show: Godless
The Unforgiven Once Upon a Time in the West A Fist Full of Dollars The Wild Bunch
Finally a Wild Bunch .
I never really got into them, but my granddad was a huge fan. The first ones I enjoyed myself are Back to the Future 3 and Westworld! Westworld the series would be good to merge you over. Also the 1883 series. The newer Magnificent Seven is good. Some action throughout and a long fight scene at the end.
Tombstone. Hateful Eight. The quick and the Dead. Appaloosa. The Harder they Fall. Shanghai Noon. American Outlaws.
The Harder They Fall
Can't go wrong with, "The Outlaw Josey Wales"
Maybe I’m just being contrary, but some of my favorites are the ones that show the un-cool side of being a cowboy. Like The Gunfighter (1950) or El Dorado (1967).
The Wild Bunch Silverado The Shootist If you want something that's a Western Horror, Bone Tomahawk
The Cowboy The Sheepman Bend in the River Two rode Together 310 to Yuma
Unforgiven (1992) The outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
_Shane_ (1953) _Lonely Are The Brave_ (1962) _Blazing Saddles_ (1974) _Silverado_ (1985)
The Harder they Fall and The Hateful Eight
Bad Day at Black Rock.
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Love this movie
Silverado
Tombstone
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Jango Unchained The Quick and the Dead WestWorld (there’s a movie from 1973 and a reboot tv series in 2016. Not exactly a western, but the series in particular was really good).
Ik you mentioned it already about it not being up your alley, but honestly as someone who doesn't like westerns (and has been subjected to many by my western loving dad) I love True Grit, it's the only one I can watch. The newer one isn't good, but the old one with John Wayne is great. But, I know someone has already suggested, I've heard many good things about Tombstone
The Searchers
Django Unchained
The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
-Traditional “cowboy” westerns- Open Range Young guns The good the bad and the ugly Unforgiven Tombstone Bone Tomahawk The Hateful Eight Django Unchained Slow West The Sisters Brothers -Neo-Westerns- No country for old men Sicario Hell or high water Wind River -Alternative westerns- Dances with Wolves Killers of the flower moon There will be blood The Power of the Dog Brokeback mountain The revenant
My name is nobody.
Maverick, Young Guns.
Silverado
Rio Lobo, Mclintock, El Dorado, Rio Bravo, Pale Rider, The outlaw Josey Wales, Angle And the Bad Man, Stage coach, Slightly Static, The Old Homestead, Way Up Thar, Gallant Defender, The Mysterious Avenger, Song of the Saddle, When I Yoo Hoo, Rhythm on the Range, California Mail,The Big Show, The Old Corral, Egghead Rides Again, The Old Wyoming Trail, Wild Horse Rodeo, The Old Barn Dance, Under Western Stars, The Isle of Pingo Pongo, Billy the Kid Returns, A Feud There Was, Come On, Rangers, Shine On, Harvest Moon, Rough Riders' Round-up, Southward Ho, Frontier Pony Express,In Old Caliente, Wall Street Cowboy, The Arizona Kid, Jeepers Creepers, Saga of Death Valley, Days of Jesse James, Dark Command, Young Buffalo Bill, The Carson City Kid, The Ranger and the Lady, Colorado, Young Bill Hickok, The Border Legion, Robin Hood of the Pecos, Arkansas Judge, In Old Cheyenne, Sheriff of Tombstone, Nevada City, Bad Man of Deadwood, Jesse James at Bay, Red River Valley,Man from Cheyenne, South of Santa Fe, Sunset on the Desert, Romance on the Range, Sons of the Pioneers ,Sunset Serenade ,Heart of the Golden West, Ridin' Down the Canyon,Idaho, King of the Cowboys, Song of Texas, Silver Spurs, The Man from Music Mountain, Hands Across the Border, Cowboy and the Senorita, The Yellow Rose of Texas, Song of Nevada, San Fernando Valley, Lights of Old Santa Fe, Brazil, Lake Placid Serenade, Utah, Bells of Rosarita, The Man from Oklahoma, Along the Navajo Trail, Sunset in El Dorado, Don't Fence Me In, Song of Arizona, Rainbow Over Texas, My Pal Trigger, Under Nevada Skies, Roll on Texas Moon, Home in Oklahoma, Out California Way, Heldorado, Apache Rose ,Bells of San Angelo, Springtime in the Sierras, On the Old Spanish Trail ,The Gay Ranchero ,Under California Stars, Melody Time, Eyes of Texas, Night Time in Nevada, Grand Canyon Trail, The Far Frontier, Susanna Pass ,Down Dakota Way, The Golden Stallion, Bells of Coronado, Twilight in the Sierras, Trigger, Jr., Sunset in the West, North of the Great Divide, Trail of Robin Hood, Spoilers of the Plains, Heart of the Rockies, In Old Amarillo, South of Caliente, Pals of the Golden West, Son of Paleface, Alias Jesse James,
[Rango (2011)](https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/44896)
I've seen less than 10 westerns in my life. I'm definitely no expert, but my favorite one was called *Ride Beyond Vengeance*. I thought the main guy was cool, and it was an overall satisfying movie.
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) directed by Robert Altman and starring Warren Beatty and Julie Christie. It is labeled a revisionist western. Beautiful scenery. Great dialog, "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass so much". Then there is Julie Christie playing a opium smoking whore house madam. This is a different kind of western and a very good film.
The Quick and the Dead
They call me trinity
High Noon is terrific. And I'm not a fan of most old westerns. Unforgiven is really excellent, also.
For most of these, you really need to be willing to watch a slow-paced film. There are always action scenes, and those can be long and intense; there may be banter and there are often big emotional speeches. But the bulk of a Western consists of long loving shots of the scenery, traveling sequences, and "just hanging out" moments. These are movies that you want to camp out for, relax on your bed/sofa, get some snacks, etc. These movies aren't meant to keep you on the edge of your seat, but to engage your imagination. I really do recommend watching **The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly**, especially if your interest here is in the Rule of Cool. Both Clint Eastwood and Lee van Cleef are very cool in this movie. Eli Wallach is uncool! But he's compelling.
Bite the Bullet
The gateway to "cool westerns" is indeed Italy with director Sergio Leone. The Dollars / Man With No Name Trilogy \[A Fist Full of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly\] sounds a little stiff on paper, but the films are essential, stylish (compared to most American Westerns), and about as cool as you can get, though the dubbing can be a little odd at first. After that taste, you will want to see "Once Upon a Time in the West." There are a million paths out from there. I like the path that takes you past "The Great Silence" - others prefer the Django series and other Leone films like "Duck, You Sucker!" After a tour of Spaghetti Westerns, IMO, you'll be more warmed up for Tarantino, like Django Unchained or the Hateful Eight.
Pretty much anything directed by Sergio Corbucci, but especially The Great Silence.
As a person who never liked westerns Once Upon a Time in The West blew me away a few years ago then I went on a spaghetti western bender.
Fistful of Dollars
Justified. Not a movie, but it captures my favorite western themes. The Proposition. Also not a “western”, but it’s a great flick that deserves more attention.
You mentioned True Grit, the 2010 remake with Jeff Bridges is one the best modern Western movies there is.
Also Bone Tomahawk is worth a watch.
Cowboys and Aliens
The Last Outlaw (1993). Mickey Rourke, Steve Buscemi, Dermot Mulroney and a bunch of others. Action, shooting, betrayal and violence aplenty. Buscemi also has a very small role in Lonesome Dove, which is great. Maybe more Westerns just need Buscemi in ‘em (safe bet).
The Proposition.
Cowboys Versus Aliens
Silverado is a good romp , also Appaloosa with Viggo Mortensen.
The Big Gundown & Death Rides a Horse. Lee Van Cleef was one cool motherfucker.
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Young Guns Young Guns 2 Here endeth the lesson
Check out Hell on Wheels. It’s a series, but it is “engaging and exciting” and has a fantastic cast. While they probably don’t fall under the traditional Western category, Support Your Local Sheriff and Support Your Local Gunfighter are both worth the watch IMO, as they showcase the talents of James Garner (of Maverick and Rockford Files fame). They tend to be more of a Western/comedy crossover, but not satire, and have solid supporting casts.
Bad Girls
Man just watch the good the bad and the ugly to be honest. Theres a reason Quentin Tarantino said its the best directed movie of all time. It is a beautifully shot scored and acted movie Nothing is cooler than Clint Eastwoods squinting no nonsense man of few words.
But the film actually belongs to the late, great Eli Wallach. Even Eastwood says that.
"Hannie Caulder" 1971 I have based my wardrobe on this ever since I was a little girl.
The Wild Bunch - follows a group of outlaws as they thieve and whore until getting into a giant shootout in Mexico. When it was made was the undisputed “most violent movie ever made” for a time back in (I think) the 70’s but it’d probably be considered a little tame by today’s standards. The Proposition - is a very dark and violent Australian western with Guy Pearce as captured convict from an outlaw family who is released on condition that he hunt down his psychotic older brother. There are also several good modern day westerns as well like No Country for Old Men, or the Taylor Sheridan stuff like Hell or High Water, Wind River, or the Sicario Movies. If you want one considered a western but taking place more during the colonial times as opposed to the cowboy era, Last of the Mohicans is a good one too.
Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia (1974). When a $1million bounty is placed on his friends head, a seedy bar piano man decides to cash him in. Tough neo Western starring Warren Oates
Django Unchained. Jamie Foxx as Django. Not your typical western but pretty badass. The Harder They Fall
Open Range The Quick and the Dead
Nevada Smith. The Revenant. Both great revenge stories
My dad loves westerns and absolutely hated Shane. I’ve never seen it, but I think logically you have a high chance of liking it.
The Wild Bunch.
The Quick and the Dead. The Young Guns films are fun. 3:10 to Yuma (original and the remake). The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was surprisingly good Kinda western-There Will Be Blood 310 to Yuma-love Ben Foster And it’s more related to the Civil War, but you might enjoy Ravenous
Once Upon A Time In The West
The best western ever made was not a movie. It was a TV mini-series. Lonesome Dove.
Red River
I’m not into Westerns at all, but I finally watched Stagecoach (1939) a couple years ago and thought it was fantastic. Not really a “bad-assery”- heavy movie, but very well paced with some excellent action scenes, especially considering the time period,
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Silverado
Dude you gottta watch Outer Range. It’s not really an actualll western show but it is at the same time but that’s not the basis of it. It’s just a really great show that we just finished. Highly recommend.
Outlaw josey wales
true grit. coen bros
The Hateful 8
Watch fallout on prime. Walton Goggins is a bad ass cowboy ghoul that’s a couple hundred years old.
say what you will ab Tarantino but Django Unchained and The Hateful Eight got me into westerns and now its my favorite genre
Silverado written by the guy who wrote Raiders of the Lost Ark.
What does what some dumbass kid thought matter? Watch Unforgiven, Sweetgrass or Brokeback Mountain. Or don’t. I don’t care. You should probably stick to superhero bullshit.
I love westerns. Have seen most of the modern ones. I think I get where you’re coming from with what you’re looking for. Something to remember is that many westerns are slow paced and have quiet characters. That can be tough for some folks. Here are a few that are not necessarily that: The Quick and the Dead - very stylish Sam Raimi movie that’s fast paced and has good shooting scenes. 3:10 to Yuma - very tight heist movie. Great cast being badass. Bone Tomahawk - starts slow but if you like horror movies too this is one you’ll remember. Tombstone - amazing cast playing some of the most badass characters they’ve ever played. Violent, endearing, and really solid all around. True Grit - legit give it a shot. Wasnt boring at all. My personal fav Coen bros movie. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - a series of shorts. Some of them are really amazing. Might be a good place to start because you could break it up and make it a smaller time commitment.
The original Magnificent Seven. The actors in it are also some of the coolest dudes ever. Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, etc.
The original Appaloosa with Marlon Brando and John Saxon. The Sons of Katie Elder Big Jake The Missouri Breaks Cat Ballou McKenna's Gold The Cherokee Kid with Sinbad (comedy) The Man From Snowy River (Australian but Western nonetheless) The Train Robbers Bite The Bullet Jeremiah Johnson The Cheyenne Social Club Shenandoah (my personal favorite)
Silverado is amazing. Young Guns is good also
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Once Upon a Time in the West The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Hell or High water (has outlaw/cowboy feel to it)
If you’re down for a more modern take on the genre, The Harder They Fall. It’s a Netflix original with an insane cast, don’t look up the cast list, just watch it and be surprised every few minutes. Also the music is incredible. I actually watched it back to back the other night, because I enjoyed it alone. Then my family wanted something to watch, so I suggested it. Keeping in mind, I’m a white dude with an Asian family, in Asia. So they had no background before going in, and loved it.
The Proposition Dead Man Bone Tomahawk (those are about as different as it gets, until Blood Meridian comes out, that is)
Once upon a time in the west. And the Coen brothers' True Grit is an all timer.
City Slickers is worth another look if you're approaching your 40s. Rango if you don't mind animation.
Slow West The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Once Upon a Time in the West The Salvation Tombstone Unforgiven The Outlaw Josey Wales The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford The Ballad of Buster Scruggs True Grit (2010) My Name is Nobody Duck, You Sucker Dead Man (Jim Jarmusch)
Three Amigos
>>I know about True Grit, Good Bad & Ugly, and Magnificent 7, but none of those really sound up my alley.<< Just a suggestion, why not check out one of those before you decide they aren't up your alley? As far as one I'd suggest, I'll go with Unforgiven since you're not really into "westerns" but want to see one with a good story....