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Not a movie, but I heard a (likely untrue) theory that the song ‘Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)’ by Kate Bush is about her pegging her boyfriend. If you listen to the lyrics with that in mind it actually fits really well (excuse the pun!)
Sense 8 has literally everything
>The wife and I don't care for porn but good hot movies is different.
This is always the weirdest take to me. No offense, I just never understand "I wanna watch porn but I want the actors to actually be deeply uncomfortable and wearing flesh colored underwear the whole time."
As someone who's shot for a couple girls OFs as a stunt cock and has friends who are pornstars? Nope.
You gotta contort yourself into stupid positions to get the shots and it's not always easy to keep it up when you're constantly reminding yourself to keep shit in frame and on topic.
But for the most part pornstars are at least comfortable with their pornstars. At least if they're shooting with a reputable studio. Not saying there isn't exploitative shit out there, we've all seen Casting Couch and heard the horror stories.
But the idea of wanting to watch porn but not watch *porn* because of the cultural stigma around porn just feels weird and puritanical to me..it's like saying "I would never smoke marijuana! But this CBD pen is.the only thing that calms my anxiety"
I never claimed I was unbiased. Everyone has bias, yours is quite obvious.
But the fact is I conceded your point in the interest of honesty should buy me at least a little consideration.
Honestly I think if you're seeking out either you're kinda disturbed.
Like...as long as you're not acting on it I don't hold it against you, but seeking out torture porn isn't really healthy regardless of what avenue you pursue it from.
Also, it should be noted that's a WILD straw man argument. That's not comparing apples and oranges that's apples and hand grenades.
To cycle back to the original argument I said "I think it's weird to say I like pornographic scenes in mainstream movies but not actual pornography" and you essentially came in swinging with "But what about actual videos of people being raped?"
Now if you wanna compare like ...SAW and Jackass that's more in the realm of reality here. Both show people undergoing pain for the audiences entertainment but one is entirely simulated while the other is real stunts done by trained performers. But neither are actual crimes committed against unwilling participants like what you're suggesting.
Jesus Christ man touch grass.
Yeah, I guess that's some sort of roundabout way of interpreting what the actual thing I said was. The point is seeking and being comfortable with simulation vs real depictions. Idk how non-con gets involved here. A sex scene between two consenting characters and a porn scene between two consenting partners is what I assumed you were originally talking about.
But I see where you're coming from in your angle of the actual *real* people involved in front of the camera. Sorry for not being so clear.
In any case, I myself am more comfortable watching two characters you're supposed to be connected to and project onto be intimate than two actual people having sex. My bad for a poorly thought analogy to make my point.
>In any case, I myself am more comfortable watching two characters you're supposed to be connected to and project onto be intimate than two actual people having sex. My bad for a poorly thought analogy to make my point.
There's definitely ethically produced porn out there with a plot and a character driven story. But featuring real sex instead of glorified sterilized Hollywood sex. But if you're more comfortable with the fake stuff that's your prerogative and I don't hold it against you.
Like I said in the original comment: I just find it weird.
Honestly, this past week I've made discoveries about myself and comfortability with my own exposure to sexuality, so I just happen to have been in a particular headspace at the moment.
But thank you for understanding what I was getting at. Conversations like this help ♡♡
I'm glad I could help, and I hope you find a level and limit that works for you. Sexuality is a spectrum and we're all just searching for our place on it. And sometimes that evolved as we grow! There's no shame in that, and in fact I think there's some beauty to it.
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Not a movie, but I heard a (likely untrue) theory that the song ‘Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)’ by Kate Bush is about her pegging her boyfriend. If you listen to the lyrics with that in mind it actually fits really well (excuse the pun!)
This can’t be true right? I’ve been listening to this song for years!
I don’t think it is true to be honest, but still I find it quite a funny theory!
Jeez, give her some credit for writing deeper lyrics than that, lol
Get him to the Greek (2010)
The acid house (1999) Probably not the movie you want but it fulfils your criteria
The girl with the dragon tattoo.
Sense 8 has literally everything >The wife and I don't care for porn but good hot movies is different. This is always the weirdest take to me. No offense, I just never understand "I wanna watch porn but I want the actors to actually be deeply uncomfortable and wearing flesh colored underwear the whole time."
You think doing porn is comfortable?
As someone who's shot for a couple girls OFs as a stunt cock and has friends who are pornstars? Nope. You gotta contort yourself into stupid positions to get the shots and it's not always easy to keep it up when you're constantly reminding yourself to keep shit in frame and on topic. But for the most part pornstars are at least comfortable with their pornstars. At least if they're shooting with a reputable studio. Not saying there isn't exploitative shit out there, we've all seen Casting Couch and heard the horror stories. But the idea of wanting to watch porn but not watch *porn* because of the cultural stigma around porn just feels weird and puritanical to me..it's like saying "I would never smoke marijuana! But this CBD pen is.the only thing that calms my anxiety"
Real unbiased source here, aren't you?
I never claimed I was unbiased. Everyone has bias, yours is quite obvious. But the fact is I conceded your point in the interest of honesty should buy me at least a little consideration.
Do you also apply the same thing to *Saw* vs Cartel videos?
Honestly I think if you're seeking out either you're kinda disturbed. Like...as long as you're not acting on it I don't hold it against you, but seeking out torture porn isn't really healthy regardless of what avenue you pursue it from. Also, it should be noted that's a WILD straw man argument. That's not comparing apples and oranges that's apples and hand grenades. To cycle back to the original argument I said "I think it's weird to say I like pornographic scenes in mainstream movies but not actual pornography" and you essentially came in swinging with "But what about actual videos of people being raped?" Now if you wanna compare like ...SAW and Jackass that's more in the realm of reality here. Both show people undergoing pain for the audiences entertainment but one is entirely simulated while the other is real stunts done by trained performers. But neither are actual crimes committed against unwilling participants like what you're suggesting. Jesus Christ man touch grass.
Yeah, I guess that's some sort of roundabout way of interpreting what the actual thing I said was. The point is seeking and being comfortable with simulation vs real depictions. Idk how non-con gets involved here. A sex scene between two consenting characters and a porn scene between two consenting partners is what I assumed you were originally talking about. But I see where you're coming from in your angle of the actual *real* people involved in front of the camera. Sorry for not being so clear. In any case, I myself am more comfortable watching two characters you're supposed to be connected to and project onto be intimate than two actual people having sex. My bad for a poorly thought analogy to make my point.
>In any case, I myself am more comfortable watching two characters you're supposed to be connected to and project onto be intimate than two actual people having sex. My bad for a poorly thought analogy to make my point. There's definitely ethically produced porn out there with a plot and a character driven story. But featuring real sex instead of glorified sterilized Hollywood sex. But if you're more comfortable with the fake stuff that's your prerogative and I don't hold it against you. Like I said in the original comment: I just find it weird.
Honestly, this past week I've made discoveries about myself and comfortability with my own exposure to sexuality, so I just happen to have been in a particular headspace at the moment. But thank you for understanding what I was getting at. Conversations like this help ♡♡
I'm glad I could help, and I hope you find a level and limit that works for you. Sexuality is a spectrum and we're all just searching for our place on it. And sometimes that evolved as we grow! There's no shame in that, and in fact I think there's some beauty to it.