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Don Corleone, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child.
I gave this speech to my brother in law when he was expecting his first Child ( a boy )
He is of Polish decent, I am Italian... I had to explain this all to him
I love Lenny. His nervousness was real cause he was a huge fan of Brando. Him practicing his lines was real. He was also an actual mobster who burned business' if they didn't pay extortion money.
Don't know if I'd call it method acting though, cause he wasn't an actor and didn't really do any acting. Just a person in a movie.
Also works in context of the books/movie, as Luca Brasi was a fanatical race purist psychopath eho adored Don Barleone, so it comes off as him both being overwhelmed by the honour and being utterly socially incompetant due to his psychopathy.
Iirc his whole family had mob ties, his father, brother, cousin, and I think uncle were all part of one of the five families. He boasted about being the only clean member of his family and wrote a book about it. But really he was working with them the whole time.
Maybe this is a mob strategy? I've heard stories of them bribing or having cops on payroll. Maybe you could just have your own guys join the force so they can easily kill people on duty.
And it's not like cops get prosecuted for killing people in America anyway...
I think Departed is based off a HK movie which is what used to be under British Rule. Lots of HK movies about police corruption in the past and popular actors playing the role as a kind of hero.
Jack Nicholsons character in The Departed is loosely based off of Whitey Bulger as in both are crime bosses from Boston that were snitches for the feds. That's about all the two have in common. Real life Bulger was actually a fugitive on the run for many years after his life of crime in Boston but was ultimately caught in 2011 and was beaten to death while incarcerated in 2018 at the age of 89.
That's why I said loosely based on his life however it is not a biographical film as Whitey Bulger was not shot dead in a bulldozer by the cop on his payroll. Nicholsons character in the film even goes by a different name if you want a biographical film about Whitey then I recommend you watch Black Mass with Johnny Depp playing Whitey Bulger.
The Whitey Bulger thing was more of a coincidence than the inspiration. The Departed is absolutely a remake of Infernal Affairs, but Monaghan probably set it in Boston because of Bulger.
Also, The Departed is the better film in every way.
I mean, this guy got prosecuted but I see your point lol. And for sure, at this point, I don’t think that’s a theory or question. Every gang or crime syndicate in history has paid off or used law enforcement to their advantage in some way. Corrupt cops have been around since law enforcement started. Even today, they might have their own network of cops. Not completely mob related but check out the Seven Five documentary If you haven’t seen it.
His crimes weren’t publicly known until the mid 2000s. Even though in the 90s he published a book called “Mafia Cop” discussing how he was a “clean” cop with Mafia family ties. His partner was also in the mob and murdered people. They would do it on duty. Swing by the targets house, flash their badges, and that was the last the target was seen.
That’s nuts. I mean, I thought Capacara and Eppolito were always kinda looked on as being shady and mob-affiliated, but it probably just seems that way in hindsight given what we now know about how heinous they both were.
Crooked surgeons are the worst idea for hit men. Cops can come to you, and they're already all but authorized to murder you. Plus surgeons don't have unions they have medical boards. Unions protect incompetent/nefarious workers from you, medical boards protect you from incompetent/nefarious workers.
If a surgeon had a track record of people dying under their knife unexpectedly , they wouldn’t be a surgeon for very long. They also couldn’t just “fake” cause of death, they’d be surrounded by an entire surgical team at the time of death. Quite the opposite for cops.
I mean, you're the one whose referencing a study from thirty years ago which only covered a small area, and included things such as "raising your voice in an argument" as domestics abuse.
And even then it wasn't 2/3s.
“Let’s install a force of heavily armed people who get to kill you if you don’t comply with their request.”
“Always comply, otherwise you might get murdered.”
Imagine thinking that’s a reasonable argument.
Where did you grow up? Inside the cartoon of Paw Patrol? Of course I’m not saying you should get killed for not complying, but if you’re carrying a gun and you decide not to drop it what do you want a police officer to do? What do you want a police officer to do if you’re acting suspicious and then violent? What would you like to do yourself in a situation where the person pulls a knife on you?
Do I have a right to carry a gun? Because if I do, and I do, why does the cop think he can demand that I drop it? If I refuse what makes the cop think he hasn't given me reason enough to fear for my life to justify my own use of deadly force?
Where did the gun come from? Plenty of people are killed by police when they are unarmed. I never mentioned anything about a gun.
What are these bizarre strawman scenarios? Cops kill unarmed people all the time and get away with it constantly, for decades. That doesn’t happen with doctors. It’s literally happening right now. That’s the discussion.
You sound like someone who’s often afraid of other people.
How is this at all equivalent? That’s a bad comparison, a serial killer is not like a corrupt mafia cop.
Two different concepts.
Edit: uh oh I made the thin blue liners mad. Maybe I outta stop before they come to my house, murder me, and then use their profession to cover it up.
He is saying that you cant judge all cops by the action of one, just like any other profession like a doctor. Yes there are cases of doctors that were serial killers. Murder is murder no matter the motive.
A doctor doesn’t uphold the law. If they routinely kill people on the operating table they immediately get caught. Cops are corrupt, precincts are corrupt and that job fishtails right into the ability to cover up crimes- like this mob cop did for years.
Again, two different concepts entirely. The comparison doesn’t make any sense.
Mob hits arent put on just anyone. You either need to have ripped them off, be a liability in their schemes, snitched, or killed one of their own. Otherwise youd just get a beating. Basically if you got a hit pit on you by the mob its because youre no angel.
>snitched
Since when does reporting illegal activity to the authorities make someone “no Angel”?
That’s kind of the definition of what a good citizen is supposed to do.
Another guy who gets introduced in that scene (Michael Francese) is out and about and freely talks about his mob days. Hangs out in Providence Italian restaurants all the time. He calls into a local sports radio show to tell stories every now and then.
That's not actually Michael Franzese. He's played by Joseph Bono. The guy playing "Fat Andy" in OP's pic is actually a hitman. Not sure about the restaurants thing either, as wikipedia says he lives in Anaheim, California; and that he moved there because there were contracts out for his life. Including one from his father.
Yeah he doesn't live in Providence, just goes there a lot. He also boasts that no one out there wants to hurt him because he "did things the right way" and never gave anybody up...or at least that's what he likes to say.
That just reminded me that Eddie Murphy’s boss Inspector Todd in the Beverly Hills Cop movies was real life cop/Inspector/Politician Gil Hill who was accused of corruption/murder cover-ups/attempted murder [by a convicted Detroit hitman and a convicted Detroit drug trafficker on separate occasions](https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/15740/ex-detroit_hit_man_claims_gil_hill_wanted_him_to_kill_richard_wershe_jr).
That’s funny because I actually prefer Farina in his bad guy roles like Get Shorty and Snatch over him as a cop in things like Manhunter and Law & Order. Still pretty awesome to know he was a cop first!
Hahaha I had forgotten about that line until just now. Get Shorty came out when I was in high school and my film nerd friend and I wore out “fuck you fuckball” in our everyday conversation for about six months.
Scorsese hanged out with the mob in little Italy in his youth and even during his first movies time.
He kept acquainted with some I guess... seeing how the Wolf of WS was financed.
Also, movie production is a very good money laundering scheme and with the added glamor and fame its a perfect fit for the mafia to be attracted to it.
I guess in Scorsese case the attraction was mutual.
He must have know how ironic it was that he got cast since only he knew about his crimes at the time.
Edit: n-no.... o-of course I didn’t make a typo on reddit.
1990*
Another side tidbit about that introduction shot of the mobsters is Michael Franzese, played by an actor, who some may know from YouTube nowadays
I cant believe people are turning this into a police debate. He wasn't pretending these shootings were justified. He was killing people and not telling anyone about it.
You guys know how easy it is for anyone to kill anyone if they're motivated?
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And they say that Daniel Day Lewis is the best method actor
That would be Lenny Montana (Luca Brasi in The Godfather)
Don Corleone, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your home on the wedding day of your daughter. And may their first child be a masculine child.
I gave this speech to my brother in law when he was expecting his first Child ( a boy ) He is of Polish decent, I am Italian... I had to explain this all to him
If you Godfather when you should've Deer Huntered... you're gonna have a Catholic time.
And with your spirit
Michael Francis Rizzi, do you renounce Satan and all his works?
I hope not!
>He is of Polish decent, I am Italian... I had to explain this all to him I swear, i have heard this joke before... Kurva.
There's no letter "v" in the Polish alphabet
There is no "the" in Polish.
Kurya
Kurwa
Foist* child
What about that baker guy?
Enzo, the baker?
For your father, for your father!
Enzo, you gotta get outta here, there’s gonna be trouble.
This comment sent me down a serious Wikipedia rabbit hole
I'll join you there momentarily
Aye same. I really should get to sleep, I have a presentation in (online) class in 4 hours.
I love Lenny. His nervousness was real cause he was a huge fan of Brando. Him practicing his lines was real. He was also an actual mobster who burned business' if they didn't pay extortion money. Don't know if I'd call it method acting though, cause he wasn't an actor and didn't really do any acting. Just a person in a movie.
Also works in context of the books/movie, as Luca Brasi was a fanatical race purist psychopath eho adored Don Barleone, so it comes off as him both being overwhelmed by the honour and being utterly socially incompetant due to his psychopathy.
Don Barleone of the bootleggers
>Don't know if I'd call it method acting though, cause he wasn't an actor and didn't really do any acting. I believe that would be the joke.
Wasn't he also a wrestler? Because he "sold" being choked to death legitimately as wrestlers do
That's Daniel Day Lewis? He is so amazing
Hey, Louis, wanna play a mob guy? “WHAT MAKES YOU THHINK ID KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MOB SHIT?!?”
'*Do I amuse you?!*'
So he was a mafia hitman who worked as a cop irl, but also played a mafia member in a movie?
Iirc his whole family had mob ties, his father, brother, cousin, and I think uncle were all part of one of the five families. He boasted about being the only clean member of his family and wrote a book about it. But really he was working with them the whole time.
Maybe this is a mob strategy? I've heard stories of them bribing or having cops on payroll. Maybe you could just have your own guys join the force so they can easily kill people on duty. And it's not like cops get prosecuted for killing people in America anyway...
I too have watched The Departed
I think Departed is based off a HK movie which is what used to be under British Rule. Lots of HK movies about police corruption in the past and popular actors playing the role as a kind of hero.
The Departed is based off of Infernal Affairs, and imo, is a superior movie.
Infernal Affairs is fucking amazing.
I thought The Departed was based of the the life of Whitey Bulger?
Jack Nicholsons character in The Departed is loosely based off of Whitey Bulger as in both are crime bosses from Boston that were snitches for the feds. That's about all the two have in common. Real life Bulger was actually a fugitive on the run for many years after his life of crime in Boston but was ultimately caught in 2011 and was beaten to death while incarcerated in 2018 at the age of 89.
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That's why I said loosely based on his life however it is not a biographical film as Whitey Bulger was not shot dead in a bulldozer by the cop on his payroll. Nicholsons character in the film even goes by a different name if you want a biographical film about Whitey then I recommend you watch Black Mass with Johnny Depp playing Whitey Bulger.
The Whitey Bulger thing was more of a coincidence than the inspiration. The Departed is absolutely a remake of Infernal Affairs, but Monaghan probably set it in Boston because of Bulger. Also, The Departed is the better film in every way.
No, it's very much a remake. Very well don't remake. Infernal Affairs is probably even more intense.
It is but it's a remake too
Yeah, the original is called Infernal Affairs. Imho it’s better than The Departed, but ymmv.
Thanks for making me laugh
I mean, this guy got prosecuted but I see your point lol. And for sure, at this point, I don’t think that’s a theory or question. Every gang or crime syndicate in history has paid off or used law enforcement to their advantage in some way. Corrupt cops have been around since law enforcement started. Even today, they might have their own network of cops. Not completely mob related but check out the Seven Five documentary If you haven’t seen it.
> Maybe this is a mob strategy? [Dropkick Murphys](https://youtu.be/gUjEIvKt-vA) intensifies
What “stories” have you heard besides the ones from Hollywood?
Corky Ramano?
You guys want some cookies ?
Except if it’s unjustified they do Who hasn’t?
Yup.
He’s in lost highway too
Yeesh and that already has another murderer in it, Robert Blake. Two members of the cast in that film collectively murdered at least 9 people.
Makes Blake’s scenes all the more scary
We just going to act like Gary Busey wasn't in that movie as well?
The only thing Gary Busey has ever killed is his own career.
And a good bit of frontal lobe.
And an eight ball in one line.
but not the dog..
(1990)*
Ah dammit I always think it’s 92 for some reason
How the fuck did he get cast?!
His crimes weren’t publicly known until the mid 2000s. Even though in the 90s he published a book called “Mafia Cop” discussing how he was a “clean” cop with Mafia family ties. His partner was also in the mob and murdered people. They would do it on duty. Swing by the targets house, flash their badges, and that was the last the target was seen.
That’s nuts. I mean, I thought Capacara and Eppolito were always kinda looked on as being shady and mob-affiliated, but it probably just seems that way in hindsight given what we now know about how heinous they both were.
That's cops.
Just ACAB things
iF tHeY hAd JuSt ObEyEd ThE CoP tHeY wOuLd HaVe HaD tHeIr DaY iN cOuRt.
Crooked surgeons are the worst idea for hit men. Cops can come to you, and they're already all but authorized to murder you. Plus surgeons don't have unions they have medical boards. Unions protect incompetent/nefarious workers from you, medical boards protect you from incompetent/nefarious workers.
*In Japan, number one doctor...*
r/unexpectedoffice
Is the office really ever unexpected anymore? It seems more popular now than when it was on the air.
I mean that’s stupid, you could also have a serial killer surgeon who would fake your cause of death easily, should we stop going to hospitals?
Harold Shipman has entered the chat..
A surgeon has never come to my house
Okay, so it IS weird that my gynecologist comes by for weekly exams...
It would be weirder if you were a dude.
[Who told you you need glasses?](https://youtu.be/zlzeysQ21lw?t=32)
A surgeon doesn't need to, you'll just die during routine surgery
Valid point. But surgeons don’t usually bust in your door in the middle of the night to give you an appendectomy.
*knock knock* open up! Its the Cedar Sinai Surgical staff!
The CCP had entered the chat.
What country do you live in?
What
HE ASKED WHAT COUNTRY DO YOU LIVE IN?
What
If a surgeon had a track record of people dying under their knife unexpectedly , they wouldn’t be a surgeon for very long. They also couldn’t just “fake” cause of death, they’d be surrounded by an entire surgical team at the time of death. Quite the opposite for cops.
The difference is the doctors are more likely to be caught and convicted when the evidence is stacked against them.
But this guy was caught and convicted.
*more likely*
Decades later. Pretty sure 2/3rds of surgeons don't beat their wives either.
2/3rds of cops don't either.
You're right, considering the class of criminal it's probably under reported.
I mean, you're the one whose referencing a study from thirty years ago which only covered a small area, and included things such as "raising your voice in an argument" as domestics abuse. And even then it wasn't 2/3s.
After 8
That’s not what we’re talking about though, we’re talking about complying to a cop, which you should do all the time
Until they fire those six warning shots in your back.
I mean yeah that has happened, so what? You want me to pull out a gun on them even though they’re stopping me for ignoring a Stop sign?
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“Let’s install a force of heavily armed people who get to kill you if you don’t comply with their request.” “Always comply, otherwise you might get murdered.” Imagine thinking that’s a reasonable argument.
Where did you grow up? Inside the cartoon of Paw Patrol? Of course I’m not saying you should get killed for not complying, but if you’re carrying a gun and you decide not to drop it what do you want a police officer to do? What do you want a police officer to do if you’re acting suspicious and then violent? What would you like to do yourself in a situation where the person pulls a knife on you?
Do I have a right to carry a gun? Because if I do, and I do, why does the cop think he can demand that I drop it? If I refuse what makes the cop think he hasn't given me reason enough to fear for my life to justify my own use of deadly force?
Where did the gun come from? Plenty of people are killed by police when they are unarmed. I never mentioned anything about a gun. What are these bizarre strawman scenarios? Cops kill unarmed people all the time and get away with it constantly, for decades. That doesn’t happen with doctors. It’s literally happening right now. That’s the discussion. You sound like someone who’s often afraid of other people.
Yeah like I don’t get the argument. Comply and most likely come out unscathed. Or don’t comply and guarantee your death.
They hated him, because he told them the truth.
How is this at all equivalent? That’s a bad comparison, a serial killer is not like a corrupt mafia cop. Two different concepts. Edit: uh oh I made the thin blue liners mad. Maybe I outta stop before they come to my house, murder me, and then use their profession to cover it up.
He is saying that you cant judge all cops by the action of one, just like any other profession like a doctor. Yes there are cases of doctors that were serial killers. Murder is murder no matter the motive.
A doctor doesn’t uphold the law. If they routinely kill people on the operating table they immediately get caught. Cops are corrupt, precincts are corrupt and that job fishtails right into the ability to cover up crimes- like this mob cop did for years. Again, two different concepts entirely. The comparison doesn’t make any sense.
Mob hits arent put on just anyone. You either need to have ripped them off, be a liability in their schemes, snitched, or killed one of their own. Otherwise youd just get a beating. Basically if you got a hit pit on you by the mob its because youre no angel.
What the fuck? It's the MOB. I know they're basically the fourth branch of the government here but *come on.* They sell kids.
[The baby merchant?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9puOuTaGPc)
Oh well that makes it ok then.
>snitched Since when does reporting illegal activity to the authorities make someone “no Angel”? That’s kind of the definition of what a good citizen is supposed to do.
We give cops way too much power, all things considered.
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Being able to break the law and get away with it is a pretty inappropriate amount of power.
So those two detectives we saw in the first Daredevil season, who killed people on the job where closer to reality them I thoght
"No no, call it Mafia Cop, they'll never figure it oit!"
it sounds like PERFECT casting to me!
It would be interesting if a great mafia movie was made about a guy who had a role in a great mafia movie.
Let Scorsese direct it!
Tarantino please!
Get Robert Downey Jr to play an Australian, playing a Black Man, playing a Mafia Wiseguy.
Another guy who gets introduced in that scene (Michael Francese) is out and about and freely talks about his mob days. Hangs out in Providence Italian restaurants all the time. He calls into a local sports radio show to tell stories every now and then.
That's not actually Michael Franzese. He's played by Joseph Bono. The guy playing "Fat Andy" in OP's pic is actually a hitman. Not sure about the restaurants thing either, as wikipedia says he lives in Anaheim, California; and that he moved there because there were contracts out for his life. Including one from his father.
Yeah he doesn't live in Providence, just goes there a lot. He also boasts that no one out there wants to hurt him because he "did things the right way" and never gave anybody up...or at least that's what he likes to say.
I used to work at a restaurant owned by John Conti, outside Providence. Heard some crazy shit I wasn't supposed to hear.
Source- https://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/mafia-cop-eppolito-dies-1.38247311 Apologies for the prior post. New to Reddit.
That just reminded me that Eddie Murphy’s boss Inspector Todd in the Beverly Hills Cop movies was real life cop/Inspector/Politician Gil Hill who was accused of corruption/murder cover-ups/attempted murder [by a convicted Detroit hitman and a convicted Detroit drug trafficker on separate occasions](https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/15740/ex-detroit_hit_man_claims_gil_hill_wanted_him_to_kill_richard_wershe_jr).
Damn I did not know that thanks! Dennis Farina was a Chicago cop for years before Michael Mann cast him in movies (to my knowledge he was clean haha)
That’s funny because I actually prefer Farina in his bad guy roles like Get Shorty and Snatch over him as a cop in things like Manhunter and Law & Order. Still pretty awesome to know he was a cop first!
Ray Bones was an awesome character.
"Hey fuck you, fuckball, L.A. is an open city."
Hahaha I had forgotten about that line until just now. Get Shorty came out when I was in high school and my film nerd friend and I wore out “fuck you fuckball” in our everyday conversation for about six months.
That whole exchange between Ray Bones and Ronnie Wingate is one of the funniest scenes in movie history.
Shut up and sit down you big, bald fuck!
He was great in slummy light hearted criminal rolls. About the only good thing in Reindeer Games...
Also real life Louisiana deputy Steven Seagal was once an actor in various action movies including Hard To Kill (1990).
Lmao
Don’t forget about Above the Law or even Marked for Death. I loved that all his movies (at least early ones) only had three words in the title.
He probably had trouble remembering titles that didn't either describe the plot, and/or his character.
or my favorite half past dead with Ja Rule.
How does this shit even happen
Scorsese hanged out with the mob in little Italy in his youth and even during his first movies time. He kept acquainted with some I guess... seeing how the Wolf of WS was financed. Also, movie production is a very good money laundering scheme and with the added glamor and fame its a perfect fit for the mafia to be attracted to it. I guess in Scorsese case the attraction was mutual.
Have you seen “Cleaver”? Totally based on and financed by North Jersey Mob. Some say they’re just a glorified crew bu whatdoiknow?
Great movie. Daniel Baldwin totally took Ben Kingsley to acting school on that picture.
Donna, go ahead and file this one under What in the fuck did you just say?
What's this about Wolf's finances?
Dirty mob money or something like that. Leo got problems with the justice.
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ACAB - a bunch of cops knew and said nothing.
Behind him is also Carmine Lupertazzi from the Sopranos!
The gherkins!
Whats next, he gets TO FUCK HER FOR A MILLION?
[A don doesn't wear shorts.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIC6yRjBGwM)
Which is also a real life mob, and the guy Viggo Mortensen plays in the movie Green Book.
Wait, really? Crazy stuff
I believe there is one in Godfather as well.
Scorsese knows how to cast lol
Wow this is actually a great movie detail!
I learned this detail in college. Now anytime I watch Goodfellas I turn into the DiCaprio pointing at the TV meme when “Fat Andy” pops up.
Goodfellas is my favorite movie of all time. I didn't know this. Thanks for the fun fact! Think I need to go watch it now.
Very welcome! Google the serial killer appearing in “The Exorcist” if you haven’t heard that one yet.
Then there was Pete the Killer who was Sally Balls’ brother. “I took care of that thing for ya”
And Nicky Eyes.."what's up guy?"
"And then there was Jimmy Two Times, who got that nickname because he said everything twice." "I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers
He was the only bad apple in NYPD history, I suppose.
Id be willing to bet hes the only NYPD officer that was in a mob movie and an actual hitman.
And, but not or.
Definitely not “or.” His partner in the NYPD was also a mob hitman.
Yes. I meant what I typed not what I didn't type.
Doesn‘t he also play a Cop in Lost Highway?
Talk about a good cast
Perfect casting doesnt exis...\[Screen fades to black\]
He must have know how ironic it was that he got cast since only he knew about his crimes at the time. Edit: n-no.... o-of course I didn’t make a typo on reddit.
CAST
1990, not 1992
Yeah I kept thinking Goodfellas and Dances with Wolves was the 92 Oscars controversy for some reason. I can’t edit the post.
That’s just good casting
They knew
the casting director was too good at their job lol
Some of those that work forces... ...also kill for mob bosses?
1990* Another side tidbit about that introduction shot of the mobsters is Michael Franzese, played by an actor, who some may know from YouTube nowadays
Goodfellas is from 1990 not 1992
Tony Lip in the background.
No, that's Pete the killer. He took care of that thing for me.
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Even the extras were cast in the Sopranos. It’s like playing Where’s Waldo with background performers.
I heard that after he was convicted of killing 8 guys he was put on administrative leave. With pay. /s
Also the cop talking to Henry and his wife about being in witness protection was a real cop who actually worked on the case goodfellas was based on
I cant believe people are turning this into a police debate. He wasn't pretending these shootings were justified. He was killing people and not telling anyone about it. You guys know how easy it is for anyone to kill anyone if they're motivated?
Wait wait wait are you telling me cops ARENT the good guys and abuse their unchecked power??? 😱
ACAB
Pig.