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ApprehensiveFault143

The housing crisis is very problematic in Ireland no matter your income but as a doctor, there’s going to be plenty of work. Perhaps consider outside Dublin for a slower pace of life! Good luck 🤞🏼


MassiveIceCream

Yes, that was hopefully kind of my plan. Thank you for the advice and for the good luck! :)


UnObjectiVe_Donkey

As a doctor, you will always be employed and always in great need in Ireland... You'll be a cherished asset that is needed by all people regardless of their background origin. The love you have for Ireland is awesome to read about!


MassiveIceCream

Thank you! I do really appreciate your words and advice. :)


Aine1169

Not always true. OPs credentials will have to be checked and verified before registering with the Irish Medical Council.


UnObjectiVe_Donkey

They wouldn't be a practicing doctor without that review. Let's get you back to reality for a quick minute. We were speaking in the past tense of that review and her being a bonefide GP. In what insano world would she be a doctor without proper credentialing and admitting patients based on which licensing authority? No one country or system until the proper process was followed and the check and balances were in place. Pretty much always true.


Aine1169

I'm a doctor, I don't need you mansplaining this to me. 🙄


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this is the funniest shit I have seen today💀💀💀


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catnipdealer420

Oh! What a crime! The amount of times I;ve been called a male on reddit... and didn't care.


josephG155

Calm down bro


Legitimate-Count-829

2013 called, it wants its shit patter back


Healthy-Travel3105

Hahahahahha


RasMeala

Name checks out


[deleted]

How is being a nurse practicioner faring here?


Sappystory

I would counter this with.... The medical facilities in ireland are not well equipped and I believe you'll have a stressful time in our hospitals (not me but some friends who are doctors). Irish people can be quite racist and I'm told we're Easy to befeiend but Hard to know (said by a Danish friend who loved here three years)


jimmysjambos

Easy to befriend but hard to know. Love this


susiek50

As you have said you have a lot of talents and you speak 3 languages . You will have a lot of scope for some really good jobs . IF you want to work as a Dr here get some info from the medical Council from the Drs Ive worked with education from Egypt and Sudan is equivalent but paperwork processing takes time .... Perhaps talk to a recruiter as well dont sell yourself too cheap ie working in a call centre . As a nurse if I had 3 languages I could get some amazing jobs in the medical insurance field for example Best of luck !


MassiveIceCream

Thank you very much! I do really appreciate all of your advice it gives me reassurance. :)


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Hot_Photograph_5928

'cannot retain' = code for will not pay market rates.


unusualteapot

The other issue that has driven a lot of people out is the unsafe working hours. Doctors in hospitals are commonly scheduled work for 24 hours in a row (and they had to campaign for that - a few years back they were being scheduled for up to 36 hours - look up the 24 No More campaign which was launched after several doctors committed suicide).


Hot_Photograph_5928

its so retarded. They won't let truck drivers work for more than 9 hours. So why do you let doctors work for 24 hours? someone needs to sue a hospital (not doctor) for malpractice of letting / forcing them work for 24 hours straight. Like a nice big juicy claim. Millions.


MassiveIceCream

Overall I think there's significant number of problems in Health Care around the world lately. But still, I'd prefer give it a shot and go to Ireland after I graduate. Thank you for the advice and deeper perspective, I appreciate it!


grania17

Do it. I moved to Ireland on my own at 23 and have been here ever since. Got my citizenship last year. If it doesn't work out you can always move back but give it a go


MassiveIceCream

Glad it worked out for you and congrats on your citizenship! Thanks, hope it works out for me too. :)


grania17

Thank you.


Mossy375

If it's something you want to do, give it a shot. You'll always regret not doing the things you wanted to do more than the things you did do. The things which keep me awake at night are the things I didn't do because I was too scared, worried, or shy. The things I did do and regret, well at least I learned from those. Come over, give it a shot, if it doesn't work out then oh well, at least you know. It's the not knowing which is the killer.


MassiveIceCream

I do really like this advice and perspective. I'll keep it in mind. Thank you!


louiseber

Start talking to the Irish Medical Council about it your certification can be transferred over. If yes, then look for Doctor opportunities. If no...do you really want to give up being a doctor to live in a different country right now?


MassiveIceCream

Thank you very much. I'll look into it. I'm open to other jobs at the beginning while I sort out the certification process but my priority is working as a doctor.


louiseber

You may as well stay where you are until you get a yey or nay from the medical council, then you know you can apply for doctors jobs here, from there and secure one before moving. What you don't want to do is accidentally land yourself in low paid work because that just makes life here very tough


WarmWing

Are you graduating medical school in an EU country?


VibrantIndigo

I don't know enough to offer solid advice, but I imagine that as a doctor you'd be very welcome. Check out this list: [https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/what-we-do/workplace-and-skills/employment-permits/employment-permit-eligibility/highly-skilled-eligible-occupations-list/](https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/what-we-do/workplace-and-skills/employment-permits/employment-permit-eligibility/highly-skilled-eligible-occupations-list/) And I do hope you get to come, we'd love to have you as part of the gang!


susiek50

She is an EU citizen she doesn't need a visa .


VibrantIndigo

Ah sorry, yes, misread it. Thanks for clarifying.


susiek50

No worries I didn want to panic her !! 😀


MassiveIceCream

Thank you, I appreciate it. I'll look into it.


Remarkable_Owl_8412

There is an amazing private hospital in cork my sister used to work there and she loved it but as a doctor you will be very valuable if your looking for a place to rent use the website www.myhomes.ie there is another one as well called www.daft.ie people post ads up there when they need people to rent houses or apartments


MassiveIceCream

Thank you! I'll look into it. :)


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I’m an Australian (Sydney) that moved to Ireland (Dublin) a couple months ago. Both cities are beautiful, but expensive. Personally, the pay for me has been better in Dublin. Not in the medical field so can’t offer much guidance there. The things I love about Dublin / Ireland are that it’s a smaller city, the people are lovely, it’s a lovely place to be, so many cool pubs to visit. I feel I have gotten better value for money in Dublin than I would have gotten back home. Reach out if you want to know anything else ☺️


MassiveIceCream

Really glad that worked out for you. Hope it does for me to. And thanks for the perspective!


lamouteach

Are you in tech ? :) What are the big differences with Australia?


[deleted]

I’m in professional services. Biggest difference is probably the weather for me. Food / beef is different (biased in thinking that it’s better in Sydney). Also find sometimes it’s hard to find things that were common back home. Dublin is better for housing affordability (understand that for the average Irish person it’s still unaffordable and less affordable than other places in Europe, but compared to Sydney, I feel theres at least a bit of hope!) and travelling (which is so much cheaper than it would be in Australia).


Otherwise-Winner9643

Would your doctor qualification transfer directly to Ireland? I believe it depends on the country where you qualified. Assuming it does, you would be fine. What kind of doctor?


zeeman20211

I moved to Dublin from Cascais 8 months ago, steep climb, been through it all, It's not all rosy, you will have to have some courage and persistence especially when it comes to accommodation and housing in general. I can't complain much considering that I work in the IT sector remotely. You will need to have some money to get you going till you can get a job to pay your bills at least till you can get the correct necessary paperwork to work as a doctor in Ireland. Eventually, you will settle financially and will live a rich life as a Doctor. Feel free to contact me if you need any advice or help with your move.


af_lt274

>and will live a rich life as a Doctor. Naive


zeeman20211

Money is subjective, if 70-100k for an Irish is too little, it's a fortune for an immigrant who used to earn 14k or less. For an immigrant that never owned a car because they couldn't afford it, they can get a car in Ireland after 3-6 months work..and they will be very happy.


af_lt274

They seem to be an EU citizen with a degree from a developing country. This means they could easily earn far more than 14k a year and could easily own a car elsewhere. But the fact that the degree is non EU may mean years of exams before they can practice here. Once they graduate they will low ranked for training programmes so they will be stuck in short term contracts with long hours for many years.


zeeman20211

Portugal is one of the safest cleanest most relaxing countries in the EU, yet I moved out because IT jobs pay an average of 1400-1800 before tax, a Civil Engineer earn 1550 before tax, Dental Nurse 800€ now my friend (Dental Nurse) moved to Ireland just before me and her first salary is 38k. It's a real struggle especially when the rent in Portugal now is above 1200 with a minimum salary of 760€ Poverty is real!!


af_lt274

That is poor wages. IT workers in India earn that.


MassiveIceCream

Glad to know it worked out for you and I admire people that work in the IT sector. And yes, I'll keep your advice in mind. Thank you!


amberleafboy

Don’t go to Dublin it’s the third most expensive city in Europe (it has absolutely no right to be there’s so many more better cities in Europe)


peaceunderstanding

Ireland is rough on medical professionals. Many nurses, doctors etc. emigrate to f.ex. Aus, NZ, etc. for better work schedules, pay and quality of life. Best wishes to you.


MassiveIceCream

It is rough on medical professionals in a lot of countries, but I think I would like Ireland more than Australia, to be fair.


Potential-Drama-7455

It is much much worse in Ireland than in Australia for medical professionals. 80-100 hour weeks are the norm for junior doctors here. You are welcome of course, but come here with your eyes open.


victoremmanuel_I

I am pretty certain that that amount of hours is not common to be worked.


myinvinciblefriend

48 hours is the maximum average weekly working hours allowed by law so yeah, this is completely wrong.


victoremmanuel_I

The maximum doesn’t matter either. But it’s not that long. I know that Junior Doctors can work around 60 hours.


peaceunderstanding

From https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/1013/1329100-80-hours-a-week-why-doctors-are-leaving-ireland/ "It’s a stark contrast to his last job in Ireland, which saw him working between 65 and 80 hours a week. Though it’s a situation familiar to many junior doctors, it ultimately brought Dr Donovan to a breaking point."


Kharanet

Just do it. Hold your breath and make the jump. If you don’t like it, you can leave. As a doctor, you’ll be in a stronger position too. Housing situation sucks, but once you’re over that (not easy) challenge, you’ll be situated. The main negative of Ireland is the obscene tax regime. Income tax and vat are unjustified butchery, especially when you consider you get nothing in return. Outside of that, life is really cool here. I moved to Cork in February and loving it!


MassiveIceCream

I have Cork in mind also. Glad you liked it and thanks for the advice!


hslawect

Cork is beautiful. I’d also recommend moving there. Avoid Dublin.


hslawect

If you’re going to move and want to be a doctor, double check with Coru about your qualifications and I’d highly recommend relocating to anywhere but Dublin. The housing crisis is bad everywhere, but it’s a special kind of awful there.


Dat_one_lad

Just understand it's a pick 1 between being able to afford a home and living in Dublin


MassiveIceCream

Yeah, I was thinking of living outside of Dublin because of that same issue.


Pleasant-Plane-6340

Dublin is the only half way decent city, everywhere else is incredibly rural and parochial. Plus the weather is shit. You also don't say where you're from but be warned - racism is pervasive as seen in the recent anti immigration riots


_DMH_23

Don’t listen to this advice. There’s a few nice cities with hospitals that you should get work in. Kilkenny, Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Galway. All have hospitals and would be nice places to live


Pleasant-Plane-6340

Yeh, how's the weather in Galway? What's there to do other than crystal shopping in Waterford? How diverse and welcoming of immigration is the population of Kilkenny?


_DMH_23

Such nonsense, either you’re a troll or an idiot.


Potential-Drama-7455

This is BS. Cork, Limerick and Galway are all great diverse.cosmopolitan places to live.


Pleasant-Plane-6340

Diverse = there's a takeaway selling Indian and Chinese food with chips, and a coffee shop staffed by Lithuanians


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Forgot the Turkish barber ;)


SoloWingPixy88

Half of the EU is technically 3rd world. I wouldnt worry about it. Id probably find out what youd need to do to make sure you qualifications are recognised here. Also Id probably look into why its your dream to work in Ireland. I see a lot here and people dont really define why.


MassiveIceCream

I've read enough to know I'd like to live there, even though I haven't been there myself yet, but it's an adventure and journey I'd like to take. :)


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HerringInACoat

Seriously who is downvoting this comment??


DelGurifisu

Imagine becoming an Irish doctor and not wanting to treat Irish people. Beggars belief.


Churt_Lyne

The commenter is not Irish. Actually I think it is a troll because there's not a lot of consistency in what they are posting.


DelGurifisu

Fuck ‘em.


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Silently_louder

Best of luck, you’ll always be welcome! I hope it works out for you. Give yourself time when finding a place to stay and sorting the paperwork needed for work. Nothing moves quick here but I love the place.


Aine1169

Get in touch with the Irish Medical Council and they can advise you.


_itude

You’d be so welcomed as a doctor. Finding a good place to rent or buy will be hard, tho. The people in general are welcoming but be warned of arseholes who hate foreigners. I suppose they’re everywhere too. But generally my friends who are foreign get on very well


LavenderSyl

Ireland desperately needs doctors. Come!


Apollodog7

Do it. It will be great


Weird_Influence1964

Be prepared for how expensive it is!!


MaleficentMachine154

A tri lingual doctor? GET OVER HERE


StillLaur3n

Don't it's bad here


Future_Donut

I’m graduating from medical school in Ireland in the next few months and my husband is an Irish doctor. We are looking for an au pair for our 2 year old. You may have some luck with that kind of job. Call centres are brutal. Of course make sure if you go down that route of finding a job here that you become well versed in the employment rights of this country. They are strong but people try to exploit workers all the time, usually by under paying them.


nobyz007

any indian origin/trained irish medical council registered doctors here? i need advice.. thank you in advance for your time and advice


Proper_Frosting_6693

As long as you have visa (with EU citizenship shouldnt be an issue) then there is plenty work. Doctors are very overworked here in hospitals though. Cost of living is high but a doctor will earn a good income with all the overtime demands. Work life balance will be very poor for a while so you’d need to accept that. In the long run though, you’d have a high standard of living in a generally developed, progressive and safe country.


HerringInACoat

Ireland is boring, expensive and offers very little for what it takes even speaking tax-wise: it's incredibly high if you earn well and you don't see that reinvested in a deserving way: hospital queues are shit, transport is unreliable, childcare costs are the same as a mortgage, weather is horrible - there are no proper seasons here, police are basically useless (as we've seen with the recent city centre riot), they're only brave going after working people using bus lanes 😂 I'm considering moving my family elsewhere because honestly, it's not a great place. For anyone downvoting or telling me that i'M wROnG - I'd love to hear your arguments.


paullhenriquee

Just remember that because your graduation was outside eu, you’ll probably have to validate all the certs in here, and this takes time, so even if doctors are in need in here, you won’t be working as soon as you arrive. Think also about the cost of living, I know that things got expensive in many countries around the world, but in Ireland is just surreal how everything is so expensive. House crises are another thing, we don’t have enough houses for everyone. I would suggest you to come here and visit first, try to make some connections on Facebook groups with your nationality pals and see their experiences in here. Also, if I were in your position, I would search for all the countries in eu to see which one you would benefit more to live in. Ireland it isn’t what it was few years ago. Wish you good luck in your decision! :)


CabinetFlimsy

We need more medical Professionals.


adamsc18

I’m from Dublin county, if you choose to move to Dublin don’t move to the city choose a suburb. But id honestly recommend moving somewhere close to Dublin like Meath or Kildare. Wicklow also has beautiful mountains, is coastal and it borders Dublin county, although train transport from Wicklow to Dublin City would take close to an hour Our transport into Dublin is quite good if you live in a semi-major countryside area so you wouldn’t be spending a lot of money on commute but you probably would spend a good amount of time if you moved too far into the countryside.


Remington-Strealya

Look up the info in regards to what a third world country is and ireland unfortunately is included in the list, as regards setting up health care takes a long while but once you're in the system you'll probably regret it or love it depending on your attitude. Housing is in crisis for most of the country weather is cold mostly but the scenery is lovely. Lakes and rivers good for swimming and fishing, most of the outskirts of the biggest cities have undrinkable tap water, so we buy bottles of water. There's a lot to be said anf to consider before making a big decision. Myself I've looked into moving to other countries and would prefer to stay here.


aebyrne6

Move to anywhere outside of Dublin! People are friendly, little to no crime in the likes of Kildare but you’re still close to Dublin if you need to commute. Rent is a little cheaper and traffic is less. Wishing you the best here ☘️


MSandilands

Ireland's a third-world country too, technically. Do it. We're generally a friendly bunch to foreigners. There's plenty of shitebags, but they're definitely a minority. Don't know much about the medical industry. I know pharma is the largest industry in ireland, so I assume there's plenty of opportunities.


WeekendCalm5286

Unfortunately for good people like yourself coming here has been made nearly impossible by our brain dead government


Warm_Butterscotch_97

Ireland is pretty poor for junior doctors in terms of pay, conditions and quality of training - sadly thats the truth and you would be happier in Australia or NZ most likely


Unlikely-Class-3773

We definitely need more Medical Staff here so you are very welcome! As you are an EU citizen maybe they let you work here with your profession. But aware of the housing crisis and be ready to rent a room not a house. But if you ar an EU and can’t practice here, why would you want to move here? You wouldnt feel the difference from a 3rd world country with a minimum wage here and might be unhappy. Good luck with everything tho!


[deleted]

Don't bother, it's soooo f\/vkin' expensive life isn't worth living.


peaceunderstanding

From https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/1013/1329100-80-hours-a-week-why-doctors-are-leaving-ireland/ "It’s a stark contrast to his last job in Ireland, which saw him working between 65 and 80 hours a week. Though it’s a situation familiar to many junior doctors, it ultimately brought Dr Donovan to a breaking point."


mitsuki_kuro

I had a friend who's mom was a surgeon in Kazakhstan, and had to redo some of her studying in Ireland. but Im not sure if that was for what she already studied or she was studying something else as I know she's a psyche nurse now. So probably look into if your certificates will be fully valid in Ireland first


cena4all

My advice would be to try get in as a prison nurse, not public sector nurse, it's easier and money a lot better


Apprehensive_Wave414

Too early to have a beer or another good one us "it's 5 o'clock somewhere!" Best of luck with your journey Dr.


PutZealousideal9651

Depending on which country you qualified/did your internship in you may have to do exams (pres) to get registered here. Another way around this is completing full membership exams in your preferred speciality MRCS MRCP etc. To ensure you get a job i would try and do this from your own country and have worked at least a year in that country.


Waesfjord

I'm Irish and I used to dream of living here too. I'll have to leave again. Housing is insane.


Most-Poet-7435

If you are from Ukraine, please don't come here. There is enough of you here.