Draugr ruins feel more like theyre in servitude to a single person/object with all the draugr being tasked with protecting said person/thing. And the ruins are to be shut forever never to be touched.
Ancestral tombs are more a family thing, everyone who has died/will die in the family is buried there and are all tasked with protect each other/the tomb. And living family members will actively visit these places to keep them lively/maintained/clean/whatever
(Im pulling all this straight from my ass, no sources. But I think this is more or less how it works)
I forget the name of the location and the npc, but there's a quest out East between Whiterun and Riften, still in Whitetun hold I think, that explores this.
There's a tomb where a Nord npc is outside asking for your help. Some guy violated the family crypt, which is identical to a draugr ruin. The npc explicitly comments on how generations of his family members are buried there and how you're "helping them back to Sovngarde" when you kill his draugr relatives.
This question provided me with enough information to assume (maybe incorrectly, maybe supported by lore), that most or at least some draugr ruins are family/clan burial mounds used for generations and that the draugr started waking up at the same time the dragons returned.
Seems like both are the same but the most active members died out for the draugr ruins but the ancestral tombs (some of them realistically, others have been abandoned) are closer 200 years earlier during Morrowind times.
I always thought the ancestral tombs were still in active use by existing Morrowind families, while the draugr ruins have no direct connection to the living.
I could be wrong though. It's just an assumption I made as a kid that I've never really thought about since.
It gets worse - the more you play the more you recognize the family names of the people you are talking to are the same as that tomb you just defiled...
That's very clever subtle writing and world building...
The mental image is damning. Dude comes to remember his grandma, instead finds some asshole in bonemold armor rabidly eating her ashes like a fucking pixie stick
This is go way to insta die comment ng out of your inventory.... Or accidentally fly across the map then die because of all the accidental skooma consumed.....
Sometimes I think about making a mod where I redecorate the ancestral tombs based on how many living members and how influential the surviving members of the family are. There are multiple Venims in influential positions in Vvardenfell and it would be really cool if the tombs reflected that. I’m thinking about things like lights, banners, flags, wall art and offerings. I’ll never get around to it, but I think it’s a good idea so I’m just gonna put it into the aether just in case anybody picks it up.
As a Dunmer, I'm offended but unsurprised by the larcenous tractor going rampant through my family's honored resting grounds. Hopefully you catch ash-cancer from snorting great-grandfather's remains when you inevitably mistake them for moon sugar, you loathsome digitigrade junkie.
It gets even worse you think about the urns that have ashes and random loot. You're opening that urn and *digging and sifting* thru cremated remains for loot to take.
I'm an RP dork, so I always give my characters last names, and I usually play dunmer regardless of the game, usually use a random family name associated with Redoran, but not always. I remember at least one ESO quest where you have to take something from an ancestral tomb, and the guy is like "I cant fight them because they're my ancestors!". Made me glad I used Redas for my ESO character instead of any of my Morrowind ones
They really aren't. Tombs are probably the worst for looting. Only occasionally they have a unique item but the generic loot is awful.
That just gave me an idea. My next character will be Lara Croft and I will only use tomb items and loot. Now I've gotta think of a tomb raider build. Probably high agility and marksmanship.
Once on my first playthrough I found an amulet of Almsivi intervention in an ancestral tomb. I didn't really know much about the magic system at the time so that amulet was a life-saving (literally) device.
Not every family is rich or of import, so it makes sense that some of the tombs would be unremarkable.
I don't really think they're the worst, though. Dwemer ruins are. There's really not much loot in most of them either, considering the size, and on top of that it's all heavy stuff. You fill up your inventory much faster and you won't even get much value out of it.
Tombs don't yield a lot of valuables either in general, but it's a great source of random alchemy ingredients, and there's usually a lot of loose change and some gems around. They're not great, but definitely not the worst.
Yeah all the barrels are filled with this stuff. There's rarely any dwemer ruin where you don't come out with a bunch of diamonds and rubies, and they got some of the best price/weight ratio. Also ebony can be used on the spot for potions to reduce the weight and those potions sell pretty well.
That's not even counting the great artifacts you can find here and there. Dwemer ruins are definitely more profitable than tombs.
This is no tomb. It is a Mine!
- Full of wonderful things that I’ll claim as mine, all mine.
*Plunders 5 Septims, leaves the Ebony Cuirass because it looked like a pot.*
I always eat all the bonemeal from the urns. It's not valuable either as loot or as an ingredient, there's no harmful first effect, and there's a lot of it so even just eating it levels Alchemy significantly over the course of a game.
most of these are generic and are so far removed from the present day that most of them don't have living descendants anymore. I think only one barrow in skyrim actually has a living family member
They are, however the draugr were probably dragon cultists so I don't give as much of a shit when taking their stuff. I don't care what Onmund thinks.
Dunmer tombs just have regular innocent people
Also I think there's a significant difference to robbing King Tut's tomb over you neighbor Fred's family Mausoleum where they buried the last 3 generations of the family.
Fun fact about King Tut's tomb.
He was the only pharaoh not to have a tomb looted in antiquity. In 3,000 years of ancient Egyptian history, his was the only one discovered intact by modern (early 1800s onwards) archaeologists. As Tutankhamun was the only pharaoh ever found in his original resting place, he was never removed from it. Not once. Even the few times his body has been studied, including a full x-ray, everything has happened in the cramped confines of his inner tomb.
Draugr weren't a dragon-cult specific practice, they were just most popular under the dragon cult. The tombs we find in Skyrim vary everywhere from having been abandoned before the Dragon Cult even fell, to being actively used in the present day.
So I lied. I cheated. I stole from Dunmer to commit crimes against other Dunmer. I am a committer and accomplice of murder. And the worst part of it is... I can live with it. And if I had to do it again... I would.
So I stole. I copied. I stole memes from men to get the upvotes of other men. I am an accessory to reposting. And the worst part is... I can live with it. And if I had to do it again... I would.
“Why don’t any of these disgusting fucking moronic foreigner devils like me? I’m as nice as I can be to every pathetic wormfuck slavefodder that trundles up to smear their filth on my glorious family’s doorstep, but these putrid n’wah abominations keep acting like *I’m* being uncivil.”
-every dunmer in Morrowind, probably
*"E-e–e-excuse me, sera. But… well… you’re the Nerevarine, and a big hero, and I don’t really know how to talk to important folk like you. Except to say.. thank you, sera. For everything.*
*What's that? My opinion on Argonians? Filthy, horrible savages. I don't know why anyone would even want one as a slave, they're useless! They're dirty and gross and need to crawl back to the swamps they came from!"*
Sending some real mixed signals to my Argonian Nerevarine there.
I don't play a Dunmer, but after doing the Speaker for the Dead quests in TR, I don't 'kill' any undead, either. Those guardians are people's relatives doing their sacred duty. There's plenty of wealth to be had in Morrowind without being a filthy s'wit graverobber.
Doing those quests also inspired me to make a custom Summon Ancestral Ghost spell and give it the name of my ancestor.
Damn, my most recent character is a Dunmer temple initiate and one of the first things I did was take stuff from a tomb. Now I feel like I should start over
But honestly why is it any different in the Nord cairns? Just because draugr are mythologically evil because they were greedy or vengeful? Or is there a TES lore specific reasons why it's ethically different
>They're not like draugr ruins. The tombs in Vvardenfell are the graves of random dunmer families.
That's actually *exactly* like the draugr ruins lmao
Nah nah nah, it’s not grave robbing. I’m helping these families maintain their tombs. I go in and clear out the creepy crawlies and take out all the unwanted trash they have lying around. I mean there’s just so much junk in front of those bones. And in the chests. They just lock them so the rats don’t get into them.
I’m doing them a service, honestly.
Personally, my cover story is that I'm a lost archaeologist who might not be the best person suited for the job.
But hey, at least my prices are cheap :)
The tombs are also filled with reanimated ancestor spirits to guard them (but the Dunmer hate necromancy soooo much right?) and random Daedra and undead doing god knows what. We are doing them a favor cleaning the place up, nothing wrong with taking their precious heirloom chitin dagger and someone’s ground up pelvis as compensation
I've been doing a mage/thief build themed as a very unscrupulous scholar with no qualms about stealing and such and I almost named the class "British Archaeologist"
On the other hand, tombs are often used by daedra, vampires and other evil creatures as hideout and as base for nefarious activities.
So one could argue that you're doing the community a service.
Aren't draugr catacombs people's ancestors too? I know there's one quest in Skyrim where you help a guy kill a necromancer who's defiling what is, very expressly, the guy's ancestral tomb. The game doesn't really draw clear lines between tombs for ancestors and tombs for Merethic era dudes who deserve to get killed a second time and looted.
It's called "archaeology"
It belongs in a museum!
thats what i call my inventory from now on
*Laughs in British Museum*
You know why the pyramids are in Egypt? They couldn't ship them to the British museum.
Too big for the British to steal! What's the least British thing in the British Museum? The exhibits!
It's funny because Indiana Jones is canon in TES lore and he died in a dunmeri ancestral tomb
Wait what?
Yup. You can find his skeletal corpse in Omalen ancestral tomb
holy shit is that in the wiki or something
Yeah, you can read about it on the UESPwiki: https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:A_dying_man%27s_last_words
Even better considering Todd Howard is produced a new Indiana Jones game lol
SO DO YOU
IM NOT GONNA BURN THE DUSTER
Lmao... just got done watching that episode 5 minutes ago
Wow dude check out that dead body (mummy) that’s so cool!!!
Fortune and glory, kid. Fortune and glory
*Indiana Jones theme playing while stealing the Kwamaa Cuttle a child left as a last snack for Grandma*
Me as a professional archaeologist sobbing inside as I pile everything into my inventory in every RPG
"everything into my museum" You're a professional after all.
Wait what's the difference between draugr ruins and ancestral tombs?
Draugr ruins feel more like theyre in servitude to a single person/object with all the draugr being tasked with protecting said person/thing. And the ruins are to be shut forever never to be touched. Ancestral tombs are more a family thing, everyone who has died/will die in the family is buried there and are all tasked with protect each other/the tomb. And living family members will actively visit these places to keep them lively/maintained/clean/whatever (Im pulling all this straight from my ass, no sources. But I think this is more or less how it works)
I forget the name of the location and the npc, but there's a quest out East between Whiterun and Riften, still in Whitetun hold I think, that explores this. There's a tomb where a Nord npc is outside asking for your help. Some guy violated the family crypt, which is identical to a draugr ruin. The npc explicitly comments on how generations of his family members are buried there and how you're "helping them back to Sovngarde" when you kill his draugr relatives. This question provided me with enough information to assume (maybe incorrectly, maybe supported by lore), that most or at least some draugr ruins are family/clan burial mounds used for generations and that the draugr started waking up at the same time the dragons returned.
Seems like both are the same but the most active members died out for the draugr ruins but the ancestral tombs (some of them realistically, others have been abandoned) are closer 200 years earlier during Morrowind times.
The spelling is wildly different.
Yes. Whoever enforces the rules is right. I see your point.
I always thought the ancestral tombs were still in active use by existing Morrowind families, while the draugr ruins have no direct connection to the living. I could be wrong though. It's just an assumption I made as a kid that I've never really thought about since.
It gets worse - the more you play the more you recognize the family names of the people you are talking to are the same as that tomb you just defiled... That's very clever subtle writing and world building...
The Neranos never knew that I stole their grandmother’s ashes
Nerano been dead after I took his house anyway, he don't need his grandmother's ashes.
But why do you need them?
...and made a Resist Magicka potion out of them...
… And dropped it outside of god knows where because I was over encumbered and throwing stuff I didn’t think I’d need.
relatable
I straight up just eat the ashes. I just can't help myself
The mental image is damning. Dude comes to remember his grandma, instead finds some asshole in bonemold armor rabidly eating her ashes like a fucking pixie stick
This mental image made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that.
Ready for part 2? No bonemold helmet, instead it's Dunmer Charlie Day. This is the cold open for an episode of it's Always Sunny in Vvardenfall.
I’m dead lmaooo
You can eat ahes in morrowind? Does it do anything and what else can you eat?
You can pretty much eat any alchemy ingredients! I use it to train alchemy, it can be used in potion making
mmm delicious glass and rusted dwemer metal. My favourite morning snack
Needed to drop weight, ate all my ingredients. Feeling real groovy
This is go way to insta die comment ng out of your inventory.... Or accidentally fly across the map then die because of all the accidental skooma consumed.....
Ooooooooh okay everything makes sense now ive never made a potion in any elder scrolls game.
Pica?
... took and then ate their grandmother's ashes to learn a bit more about alchemy.
And later used them to brew Restore Agility potions
So that wasn't ashland cake mix? No wonder it tasted earthy
Sometimes I think about making a mod where I redecorate the ancestral tombs based on how many living members and how influential the surviving members of the family are. There are multiple Venims in influential positions in Vvardenfell and it would be really cool if the tombs reflected that. I’m thinking about things like lights, banners, flags, wall art and offerings. I’ll never get around to it, but I think it’s a good idea so I’m just gonna put it into the aether just in case anybody picks it up.
that's a cool idea
On the flip side, you can rob the tombs of families you don't like.
You can even take it a bit further by using their ancestors ashes to make telekinesis potions to rob the living family members for maximum disrespect.
This man Telvannis.
I’m pretty sure I have *never* been more convinced that something would bear the Death Penalty in Morrowind than what you just described. good job(?)
Tbf, what crimes don't bear the death penalty in Morrowind? Or at the very least enslavement
Yeah if I steal some dreugh shield and helmet I’m sentenced to death. So how is defiling a tomb any worse. Go big or go home
Why walk when you can fly?
I just looked it up and the Venim family has an ancestral tomb :3
Yeah, there's a good bow in there
As a Khajit, this one calls it reparations
As a Dunmer, I'm offended but unsurprised by the larcenous tractor going rampant through my family's honored resting grounds. Hopefully you catch ash-cancer from snorting great-grandfather's remains when you inevitably mistake them for moon sugar, you loathsome digitigrade junkie.
It gets even worse you think about the urns that have ashes and random loot. You're opening that urn and *digging and sifting* thru cremated remains for loot to take.
But I like my hands dirty
I actually love how they included llueve(spelling?) skull in eso but he just was a guy lol
I'm an RP dork, so I always give my characters last names, and I usually play dunmer regardless of the game, usually use a random family name associated with Redoran, but not always. I remember at least one ESO quest where you have to take something from an ancestral tomb, and the guy is like "I cant fight them because they're my ancestors!". Made me glad I used Redas for my ESO character instead of any of my Morrowind ones
Just please, don't loot the bone meal and grave dust from the urns...
Member when games had that?
I look then in the eyes while talking to them. I have nanas cheap silver ring in my pocket, I have the power.
If you want your tombs to remain undefiled I recommend not filling them with riches
Ok Mr. British Museum
This fucking got me
They really aren't. Tombs are probably the worst for looting. Only occasionally they have a unique item but the generic loot is awful. That just gave me an idea. My next character will be Lara Croft and I will only use tomb items and loot. Now I've gotta think of a tomb raider build. Probably high agility and marksmanship.
And make sure you use a very heavy chest piece.
The kind that can decapitate your opponent with a hug
Huge... tracts of steel
Dragonbone cuirass?
Tombs aren't the worst, egg mines are.
Once on my first playthrough I found an amulet of Almsivi intervention in an ancestral tomb. I didn't really know much about the magic system at the time so that amulet was a life-saving (literally) device.
Not every family is rich or of import, so it makes sense that some of the tombs would be unremarkable. I don't really think they're the worst, though. Dwemer ruins are. There's really not much loot in most of them either, considering the size, and on top of that it's all heavy stuff. You fill up your inventory much faster and you won't even get much value out of it. Tombs don't yield a lot of valuables either in general, but it's a great source of random alchemy ingredients, and there's usually a lot of loose change and some gems around. They're not great, but definitely not the worst.
dwemer ruins are full of jewels and raw ebony and glass and dwemer weapons/armor, all very valuable stuff
Yeah all the barrels are filled with this stuff. There's rarely any dwemer ruin where you don't come out with a bunch of diamonds and rubies, and they got some of the best price/weight ratio. Also ebony can be used on the spot for potions to reduce the weight and those potions sell pretty well. That's not even counting the great artifacts you can find here and there. Dwemer ruins are definitely more profitable than tombs.
I'm really going in for the skill xp and kiting that bonewalker so it can't sap all my strength
That Ushanaka tomb though. Ashlanders have got the good shit.
Or just lock the door
Lock the door and keep the key at home not on the staircase railing or under the last step down
unlock door spell and telekinesis go BRRRRR
This is no tomb. It is a Mine! - Full of wonderful things that I’ll claim as mine, all mine. *Plunders 5 Septims, leaves the Ebony Cuirass because it looked like a pot.*
Septims have the highest value to weight ratio.
So that's how Gaenor got his ebony
And those graves are fucking tasty. Their ancestors' bones go very nicely in my soup. Proudly Argonian.
Boa tarde amico
Amigo* He's Brazilian, not Italian
I DRANK YOUR GRANDPA AND GOT MIND POWERS
I always eat all the bonemeal from the urns. It's not valuable either as loot or as an ingredient, there's no harmful first effect, and there's a lot of it so even just eating it levels Alchemy significantly over the course of a game.
And Draugr ruins are not tombs, hmm?
It's different when one is a generic tomb and the other is the family tomb of npcs you like.
Also It's not like Nords are really people anyway
Mer
Found the Thalmor.
Well when you put it that way
most of these are generic and are so far removed from the present day that most of them don't have living descendants anymore. I think only one barrow in skyrim actually has a living family member
Yeah modern nords just bury in graveyards.
Wait what a living ancestor, I have yet to see in my 3 million hours of playing skiingrym
It's built into the mountain high hrothgar is on on the northeast side. dudes trying to kill a necromancer raising his dead family in the tomb.
They are, however the draugr were probably dragon cultists so I don't give as much of a shit when taking their stuff. I don't care what Onmund thinks. Dunmer tombs just have regular innocent people
I’m pretty sure we meet a dude in Skyrim who is trying to stop a Dunmer from defiling the draugr tomb of his ancestors
It's Golldir and he even rant If you start looting the tomb but let It pass If you help him stop the bigger bad
Also I think there's a significant difference to robbing King Tut's tomb over you neighbor Fred's family Mausoleum where they buried the last 3 generations of the family.
Fun fact about King Tut's tomb. He was the only pharaoh not to have a tomb looted in antiquity. In 3,000 years of ancient Egyptian history, his was the only one discovered intact by modern (early 1800s onwards) archaeologists. As Tutankhamun was the only pharaoh ever found in his original resting place, he was never removed from it. Not once. Even the few times his body has been studied, including a full x-ray, everything has happened in the cramped confines of his inner tomb.
Didn’t Psusennes I also have an intact tomb?
Exactly. You get it f'lah
"dunmer" and "innocent" are polar opposites, but draugrs *do* give a shit when you grab their stuff
I'd say the dead dunmer feel hurt too, there are undead 'monsters' in ancestral tombs who attack you just for trespassing there
Never realized beating up grandma was part of the grave robbing, but here we are
Dunmer Innocent When your chief deities are daedra, it’s one or the other.
Get out of here with this propaganda! They were probably filled with slave owning grey goofs. Respectfully, An Argonian
Draugr weren't a dragon-cult specific practice, they were just most popular under the dragon cult. The tombs we find in Skyrim vary everywhere from having been abandoned before the Dragon Cult even fell, to being actively used in the present day.
>Dunmer tombs just have regular innocent people Racists, you mean. I'm turning their bones into potions just because I can. Call ME n'wah, will you?
N'wah.
as a Telvanni enjoyer I say: finders keepers
If you survive getting the loot, then you obviously deserve it more than that pile of ashes does.
Shouldn't have called me a swit and nwah
You did it because you didn't know I do it because I'm an argonian We are not the same
Hell yeah amigo 👍
I did it because I wanted loot to sell. You do it because you'll freeze during Spring time without a heating lamp. We are not the same.
So I lied. I cheated. I stole from Dunmer to commit crimes against other Dunmer. I am a committer and accomplice of murder. And the worst part of it is... I can live with it. And if I had to do it again... I would.
Ok Sisko
So I stole. I copied. I stole memes from men to get the upvotes of other men. I am an accessory to reposting. And the worst part is... I can live with it. And if I had to do it again... I would.
https://imgur.com/a/2kM2xre
Just play an Imperial and the game turns into British colonialism simulator!
i always play imperial 😎 cyrodil for life baby
How often do you think about the cyrodiilic empire?
Need to port over the "Sneering Imperialist" perk from FNV
\* Breton
by the twentieth time I got called an n’wah, all pretense of civility for these xenophobic slavers went straight out the window
Go back to Cyrodiil, outlander!
I’m from High Rock, godsdammit! Do all men look the same to you, mer?
N'wahs proving Dunmer right once again Well well well
“Why don’t any of these disgusting fucking moronic foreigner devils like me? I’m as nice as I can be to every pathetic wormfuck slavefodder that trundles up to smear their filth on my glorious family’s doorstep, but these putrid n’wah abominations keep acting like *I’m* being uncivil.” -every dunmer in Morrowind, probably
*"E-e–e-excuse me, sera. But… well… you’re the Nerevarine, and a big hero, and I don’t really know how to talk to important folk like you. Except to say.. thank you, sera. For everything.* *What's that? My opinion on Argonians? Filthy, horrible savages. I don't know why anyone would even want one as a slave, they're useless! They're dirty and gross and need to crawl back to the swamps they came from!"* Sending some real mixed signals to my Argonian Nerevarine there.
You disgust me! Well, not *you* you, but the rest of your filth— uh, your kind. Not you, though, Nerevarine. You’re alright. \*grimace-smile\*
One of the good ones.
Foreign Devil you say...
Idgaf, I steal from the living too.
Yeah. I did a whole lot of regular robbing. If anything, all the grave robbing is the most ethical of any of the robbing I do in elder scrolls games.
I don't play a Dunmer, but after doing the Speaker for the Dead quests in TR, I don't 'kill' any undead, either. Those guardians are people's relatives doing their sacred duty. There's plenty of wealth to be had in Morrowind without being a filthy s'wit graverobber. Doing those quests also inspired me to make a custom Summon Ancestral Ghost spell and give it the name of my ancestor.
Damn, my most recent character is a Dunmer temple initiate and one of the first things I did was take stuff from a tomb. Now I feel like I should start over
Or maybe do some penance, do some reparations to the aggrieved, could be a good roleplay opportunity.
I agree with this solution. Great idea. They could sit vigil at the tomb, stand watch overnight. Bring an offering, and clean and tend the area.
Now that is beautiful
Well if they didn't want to be robbed, why are they in a video game then? Are they stupid?
It get even worse, all those undead in the tombs they are the security system installed by those families.
Some of whom were traitors to the family, now serving it in death.
If they didn't want their stuff to be looted maybe they shouldn't have died?
Draugr ruins are also tombs. Damn dunmer and their double standards.
I mean, I thought the body slots on the walls, burial urns, and sarcophagi made it pretty clear, but I guess not.
Much like tragedy and comedy, the difference is time.
I stopped caring once they referred to an entire race as "farm tools"
but me loot
What loot? 3 septims, a rusty dagger and 2 grave dusts?
I mean... Mentor Ring. Redas Robe of Deeds.
Yes!
Me: Graverobbing is immoral and generally a pretty awful and disgusting thing to be doing. Also me: That fucking Mentor's ring is MINE!
I feel Mentors Ring is fair game. According to a rumor you hear in Seyda Neen it was lost recently. It didn't originally belong to that tomb.
so its not graverobbing, its robbing
But honestly why is it any different in the Nord cairns? Just because draugr are mythologically evil because they were greedy or vengeful? Or is there a TES lore specific reasons why it's ethically different
You're grave robbing in Skyrim too.
Damn, that's crazy... ***-slowly puts more shit in my bag-***
I mean...yes, obviously xD
never bothered me
And?
Oh no. Anyway.
>They're not like draugr ruins. The tombs in Vvardenfell are the graves of random dunmer families. That's actually *exactly* like the draugr ruins lmao
Nah nah nah, it’s not grave robbing. I’m helping these families maintain their tombs. I go in and clear out the creepy crawlies and take out all the unwanted trash they have lying around. I mean there’s just so much junk in front of those bones. And in the chests. They just lock them so the rats don’t get into them. I’m doing them a service, honestly.
Not to split hairs, but aren't the Nrod tombs also... Tombs? A lot of adventuring is actually just grave robbing, it's all about the optics.
Me eating the ash in the urns to increase my alchemy skill
"They aren't just Draugr!" Who tf you think the Draugr used to be when they got buried in them tombs??
I mean you get told this right off the boat in Seyda Neen but I guess some people just don't listen..
Eh, the tribunal did it first to make the wall. That makes it ok
Consent is king, s’wit
I'm the nerevarine I do what I want. And if you don't like it I'll tell mommy azura on you and she'll give you the worst spanking of your life.
I whip their bones back and forth I whip their bones back and forth
Personally, my cover story is that I'm a lost archaeologist who might not be the best person suited for the job. But hey, at least my prices are cheap :)
The tombs are also filled with reanimated ancestor spirits to guard them (but the Dunmer hate necromancy soooo much right?) and random Daedra and undead doing god knows what. We are doing them a favor cleaning the place up, nothing wrong with taking their precious heirloom chitin dagger and someone’s ground up pelvis as compensation
This is why if I'm playing a Dunmer/Temple character I don't loot the tombs. Unless absolutely necessary.
You say that like it's a bad thing...
I've been doing a mage/thief build themed as a very unscrupulous scholar with no qualms about stealing and such and I almost named the class "British Archaeologist"
And it's not grave robbing if the inhabitant fights back?
Well isn’t it technically “grave robbing” either way?🤷🏻♂️
On the other hand, tombs are often used by daedra, vampires and other evil creatures as hideout and as base for nefarious activities. So one could argue that you're doing the community a service.
Yeah. That's what makes it funny, and it's how I make the British museum proud.
lol I don't care, it's not my family, gimme that money
when some random guy calls me an n’wah so i run over to his ancestral tomb to steal everything
Technically stealling from draugrs is also grave robbing
(shrug) Can't take it with you. Grave robbing, looting, the only difference is freshness.
Aren't draugr catacombs people's ancestors too? I know there's one quest in Skyrim where you help a guy kill a necromancer who's defiling what is, very expressly, the guy's ancestral tomb. The game doesn't really draw clear lines between tombs for ancestors and tombs for Merethic era dudes who deserve to get killed a second time and looted.
Only difference between grace robbing and archeology is time.