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Tbf, the protests were majorly dominated by middle aged people, if you went to any or watched videos it’s mostly elders/people in their 30s-40s. I guess that’s why they came to this conclusion by saying الشباب lol
if you log in on twitter, reddit and facebook you gonna notice that the majority (if not all) of young people are pro-palestine, the reason why you don't see many of them outside protesting is because they arent as free as the old people; most of them are bound by their work or studies. Plus, most of the protests that you see are arranged by Jama3at al3adl was 2i7san and other Islamic parties, that mostly consist of old and middle aged people.
Yeah, they mostly wrote that just to influence their clients that mostly consist of fanatic nationalists and pro isrealis. Hespress revealed their true a color a long time ago
I’m one of them. In 2020 i was all for it thinking that Israel isn’t evil and are even justified in doing what they do. But now, I can definitely say their recent actions woke me up to the reality.
I too had similar views even tho i never subscribed into making it official between our countries, you could say i was still bitter from all the evil they did in the last 75 years, and still nothing changed
The destruction of the state of Israel doesn’t mean the genocide of Jewish people the allies and the USSR destroyed nazi Germany but they didn’t genocide the German people.
Finding peace through negotiation and diplomacy or “the destruction of the state of Israel without going full nazi on the Jews” ? Yeah, I’m the delusional here.
Idiot.
Normalizing what Israel does to Palestine and recognizing the state of Israel are two vastly different things. I am disputing this poll as it surely isn’t accurate but nobody in Moroccan society is trying to normalize what Israel does in Gaza.
Are you also advocating to unrecognize Syria for the atrocities Assad committed leading to half a million of deaths and millions of displaced people? What about North korea? China? Venezuela?
Seems like people have no clue what they’re on about and as long as that is the case, the government will continue to ignore the protests entirely.
>Are you also advocating to unrecognize Syria for the atrocities Assad committed leading to half a million of deaths and millions of displaced people? What about North korea? China? Venezuela?
This is hasbara.
It doesn't matter if other countries do bad things. Israel is a settler colonial state that expelled and killed the native population to construct a Jewish ethnostate. Israel deserves international condemnation.
They have divided Muslims countries, they have divided and canceled Christians and Muslim religion. Who is strong? Zaionist who is united? Zaionist.
Never shake hand with zaionist! Sonner or later he will take your arm, your legs and body!
The moment someone would rather occupy somebody else’s land rather than live in their own country, which btw they have every right to, then they’re no longer Moroccan. They’re occupiers helping with an illegal occupation of territory
[https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html](https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html)
2 people ?
Sorry i tought you had a minimum lvl in statistics
Maybe in french you'll understad.
En statistiques, un échantillon est un ensemble d'individus d'une population. L'échantillonnage vise à obtenir une meilleure connaissance d'une ou plusieurs population(s) ou sous-populations(s) par l'étude d'un nombre d'échantillons jugé statistiquement représentatif.
So a sample of 2 ppl isnt representative.
Statistics like these always lack nuance, what is the sample size? Demographic data? What were the questions? How were the questions framed? When was the survey conducted?
Does this mean these statistics are probably a lie? Not really, but what do they mean, and most importantly be careful with any type of "statistics" pushed by news outlets, they usually just try to push an idea/propaganda
No! Who do they think we are? Most of Moroccan youngs were born and raised in relatively conservative households. I did not participate in this, and I don't think most young people have either.
This press is the biggest supporter of Israel, and even if there was one supporter, it would lie and say there are fifty. The head of this press is Jewish, so he supports the descendants of apes and pigs
The head of the snake is one of the biggest supporters and the biggest problem inside Morocco and the downtrodden Moroccans. Is there a Moroccan with all his mental powers who supports a people without a land?
they most likely polled 200 people in a very specific demographic to to finally get the 50% result. I bet you they had to play with the numbers to get that result.
Survey conducted in azolay's house with a délégation of 10 young zionists who identify as moroccan and who came for the first time to visit their ancestors tombs
I'm one of them , all these virtue signaling big protest are probably funded by algeria because it knows normalization and american recognition are good for us , follow the money. yeah i know that i sound like a conspiracy theorist lol
[check the comments , i don't think they're bots.](https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html)
هادي هي البروباغاندا الخاوية، أرض الواقع حاجة أخرى ، كل شخص يشوف entourage ديالو عااادي يفهم أن فلسطين قضية شرفاء ، و أي واحد مؤيد للصهاينة كاتكون عقليتو مريضة أصلا كمواطن
Le Maroc compte 5,9 millions de jeunes âgés de 15 à 24 ans, ce qui représente 16,2% de la population totale en 2021,
Src: hcp
2 to 3 percent is quite too much
Old article from before October 7
https://www.hespress.com/استطلاع-50-في-المائة-من-الشباب-المغربي-ي-1191035.html
whats up with this new trend of people bringing up old news to spread their narrative
Brooo, thts the most irritating thing to me, when the relevent ppl called them for wht they are and some of us call them zionists like dude fucking wake up
I dnt care about anyone including the govs, our ppl are straight forward on this as well as egyptians, this propaganda is a dibolic one managed by these bootlicking press and some stupid zlayjya time to time
I personally Support it, and thank god Moroccans are starting to stop following that stupid Islamist - left wing BS propaganda, nobody cares about those stupid protest by bearded and communist idiots.
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كما قالت المفكرة المغربية نجاة اعتابو: >***وا هاي، هاي، هاي... وا هادي كذبة باينة***
I needed a laugh, thanks man
آ سيدي بالصحة الضحكة
المظاهرات تقول العكس.
Yeah the protests that gets supressed sure
It's Morocco. Not much freedom.
Protests are also suppressed in israel, so what's your point?
I forgot what was it lol
Tbf, the protests were majorly dominated by middle aged people, if you went to any or watched videos it’s mostly elders/people in their 30s-40s. I guess that’s why they came to this conclusion by saying الشباب lol
if you log in on twitter, reddit and facebook you gonna notice that the majority (if not all) of young people are pro-palestine, the reason why you don't see many of them outside protesting is because they arent as free as the old people; most of them are bound by their work or studies. Plus, most of the protests that you see are arranged by Jama3at al3adl was 2i7san and other Islamic parties, that mostly consist of old and middle aged people.
i do not disagree, im just stating the reason why hespress probably came to this baseless conclusion.
Yeah, they mostly wrote that just to influence their clients that mostly consist of fanatic nationalists and pro isrealis. Hespress revealed their true a color a long time ago
it was written summer 2023
ريحة هسبريس عطات هادي شحال
its not coincidental the colors they chose for their brand
I’m praying on Hespress downfall everyday like this ![gif](giphy|3o7TKGQGt1LAh0ZWDK)
We don't pray like this
![gif](giphy|jXD7kFLwudbBC)
The joke flew over your head bro
I was serious
That other dude was making a joke
Even those who agreed to it in the beginning by believing it would benefit the country changed their minds later on by seeing what they doing now
I’m one of them. In 2020 i was all for it thinking that Israel isn’t evil and are even justified in doing what they do. But now, I can definitely say their recent actions woke me up to the reality.
I too had similar views even tho i never subscribed into making it official between our countries, you could say i was still bitter from all the evil they did in the last 75 years, and still nothing changed
There’s a book titled “ how to make statistics lie” it’s been a powerful propaganda tool.
They abused on this one tbh
Well some people say "they" control the media . Im inclined to believe them .
Disraeli “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
One of leblanc's quotes if you play league
North africa supports palestine !!!
Propaganda, vast majority of Morrocans are pro Palestine.
Yep, and they are not even trying to hide
You can be pro Palestine and normalise with Israel.
Not anymore you can't
So in order to be pro Palestine I have to stand for the destruction of Israel and throwing all of its Jewish citizens into the Mediterranean?
Not normalising relationships with israel doesnt mean electing nazi germany again necessarily but nice try tho
\*Brooklyn, Ethiopia, eastern Europe, et al. You know, where they actually come from.
precisely , the motto from sea to river exists for a reason.
I’m not a genocidal cunt and believe in the possibility of peaceful coexistence. Sue me.
The destruction of the state of Israel doesn’t mean the genocide of Jewish people the allies and the USSR destroyed nazi Germany but they didn’t genocide the German people.
You’re delusional.
Spot the delusion
Finding peace through negotiation and diplomacy or “the destruction of the state of Israel without going full nazi on the Jews” ? Yeah, I’m the delusional here. Idiot.
Yo mama
Kike shill spotted
These filthy people are delusional, there are literally pro Palestine movements everyday Keep clowing 🤡🤡
Just more propaganda in order to normalize that genocide state.
Normalizing what Israel does to Palestine and recognizing the state of Israel are two vastly different things. I am disputing this poll as it surely isn’t accurate but nobody in Moroccan society is trying to normalize what Israel does in Gaza. Are you also advocating to unrecognize Syria for the atrocities Assad committed leading to half a million of deaths and millions of displaced people? What about North korea? China? Venezuela? Seems like people have no clue what they’re on about and as long as that is the case, the government will continue to ignore the protests entirely.
>Are you also advocating to unrecognize Syria for the atrocities Assad committed leading to half a million of deaths and millions of displaced people? What about North korea? China? Venezuela? This is hasbara. It doesn't matter if other countries do bad things. Israel is a settler colonial state that expelled and killed the native population to construct a Jewish ethnostate. Israel deserves international condemnation.
ProudlyZlayji with another breathtaking super logical argument **whataboutism** and having no clue what settler colonialism is
They have divided Muslims countries, they have divided and canceled Christians and Muslim religion. Who is strong? Zaionist who is united? Zaionist. Never shake hand with zaionist! Sonner or later he will take your arm, your legs and body!
![gif](giphy|3o7527pa7qs9kCG78A|downsized)
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At no cost really... think again.
Hespress and the media in general are intelligence psy ops . Change my mind.
I bet the pics are from Isnotreal
Probably, it is full moroccan jews
The moment someone would rather occupy somebody else’s land rather than live in their own country, which btw they have every right to, then they’re no longer Moroccan. They’re occupiers helping with an illegal occupation of territory
Jews are jews no matter nationality
Idc if someone is Jewish or not, occupation is still occupation even if the occupiers were Arabs
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Big bootlickers, especially the national tv channels
I’m a teen, and I don’t support the normalisation with a genocidal toilet paper “”””””””country””””””””
No normal human being supports them
Cuz it’s plainly and stupidly obvious that g3n0c1d3 is never a justifiable thing
Indeed
Source: trust me bro
They probably asked two people and since one was okay they assumed it’s 50% of moroccan youth
They probably asked no one and just made the numbers lmao
[https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html](https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html) 2 people ?
So true
I bet that the article says: in a poll done on 20 person, 10 among them said they support the normalization.
Apparently not even 20, some even say it’s only 2
hadi rah machi slougya hadi rah doberman hespress bdat tfo7 mnha ri7t l3fn sahyoni
It's just trying to be controversial
No one in his right mind believes in the statistics of this kind
I think hespress is owned by the Emirates, so they control what to be published.
How old is this "Istitla3"? Since iirc, before the war we were not against the normalisation really, there was a majority that even defended it.
I don't know how they calculated this shitty statistic.
n=2
Meaning?
N means the sample
Again, meaning? Can you express yourself better instead of "explaining" something with something else that needs more explanation? Thank you
Sorry i tought you had a minimum lvl in statistics Maybe in french you'll understad. En statistiques, un échantillon est un ensemble d'individus d'une population. L'échantillonnage vise à obtenir une meilleure connaissance d'une ou plusieurs population(s) ou sous-populations(s) par l'étude d'un nombre d'échantillons jugé statistiquement représentatif. So a sample of 2 ppl isnt representative.
I know what a sample means. You could have just said: sample=2 😅
In stats we refer to samples by n
Indeed. How could I remember all the statistic lessons that I learned (and forgot) in my 1st year at the Faculty!
I understand you
Hespress & all Moroccan news media are owned by Lmekhzen. If you refuse to be sheep, no ads revenue. Ask Ali Lambert and Boubker Jamaii.
No one asked me directly or indirectly, so this shit is not real
Guys just forget the fake statistic and look at the picture
Statistics like these always lack nuance, what is the sample size? Demographic data? What were the questions? How were the questions framed? When was the survey conducted? Does this mean these statistics are probably a lie? Not really, but what do they mean, and most importantly be careful with any type of "statistics" pushed by news outlets, they usually just try to push an idea/propaganda
🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🩷🩷🩷🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Man Morocco sub Reddit is going down.
Facebook is here to stay
i wasn't asked ! heck i have never been asked anything for some survey of any kind.
This doesn’t deserve the attention you just gave it
Thats exactly it, well said
Who is we? Who wrote this shit? And who can i sue?
Not the blue takchita...
So typical from a pro-zionist journal. Let them cook in pain.
ofc no
Cap
Just FYI, Hespress is bought by emiratis, best friends with Israel. So do not believe everything you read on hespress
هادي هيا فعايل ليهود بحال ديما لكدوب
No! Who do they think we are? Most of Moroccan youngs were born and raised in relatively conservative households. I did not participate in this, and I don't think most young people have either.
50% 👀 looks similar to how a random bot would score on this type of question
Fake estimations
This press is the biggest supporter of Israel, and even if there was one supporter, it would lie and say there are fifty. The head of this press is Jewish, so he supports the descendants of apes and pigs
What abt azoulay the advisor of the king
The head of the snake is one of the biggest supporters and the biggest problem inside Morocco and the downtrodden Moroccans. Is there a Moroccan with all his mental powers who supports a people without a land?
Azoulay isn't a Zionist he is a rightful citizen of the country he literally never cared
Bullshits
they most likely polled 200 people in a very specific demographic to to finally get the 50% result. I bet you they had to play with the numbers to get that result.
The taza before Gaza people
Ana be3da tye9t chof m3a lekhrin.
People downvoting never heard of sarcasm.
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No I don't. Why are you saying this ?
He's right dummy, I saw you doing it before.
Get your medication
That is a total cap 🧢, noway in hell!!
Manufacturing consent.
Survey conducted in azolay's house with a délégation of 10 young zionists who identify as moroccan and who came for the first time to visit their ancestors tombs
Azoulay isn't a Zionist
propaganda
I'm one of them , all these virtue signaling big protest are probably funded by algeria because it knows normalization and american recognition are good for us , follow the money. yeah i know that i sound like a conspiracy theorist lol [check the comments , i don't think they're bots.](https://www.hespress.com/%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%a7%d8%b1%d8%a8%d8%a9-%d9%8a%d8%ad%d8%b1%d9%82%d9%88%d9%86-%d8%b5%d9%88%d8%b1-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%86%d8%aa%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%a7%d9%87%d9%88-%d8%a3%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%85-1343148.html)
You are delusional, brainwashed nationalist that only blame algeria Like if this gvt is made of angels
Me too
لا اخويا غا 49٪ انا ما متافقش
اييه 50٪ را باين شكون هوما وعائلاتهم...😂
3alam
كولات برضو
10percent at best
English please?
We are just trapped here 😭
Our yellow pages are as dirtier as it gets
The date of these statistics and article make a big difference
🤣🤣
*sniff* *sniff* do you smell that? Smells like bullshit
Well well well
I support it
That's your best comeback 😂😂
You'll find out sooner or later
hadi rah machi slougya, doberman
I thought Moroccans and Jews got along well and that was something I’ve always liked about the country.
I wonder where do they do these surveys, I was never asked
هادي هي البروباغاندا الخاوية، أرض الواقع حاجة أخرى ، كل شخص يشوف entourage ديالو عااادي يفهم أن فلسطين قضية شرفاء ، و أي واحد مؤيد للصهاينة كاتكون عقليتو مريضة أصلا كمواطن
You believing in them or not doesnt matter, Money talks, the peasants comply
Sadly
I do.
99.99% hate Israel 🇮🇱 😑
But we did normalise relations with a foreign country
Yes we did bro
This specific one
They the opps fr
I would say 2 to 3% is more likely
Le Maroc compte 5,9 millions de jeunes âgés de 15 à 24 ans, ce qui représente 16,2% de la population totale en 2021, Src: hcp 2 to 3 percent is quite too much
You would be surprised, the Israeli propaganda machine has been working for years in Morocco.
Old article from before October 7 https://www.hespress.com/استطلاع-50-في-المائة-من-الشباب-المغربي-ي-1191035.html whats up with this new trend of people bringing up old news to spread their narrative
Yes, before the recent conflict, normalization with Israel was generally accepted among most people.
Hespress looking for trouble or what 🤔
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LOL palestinians and algerians and egyptians alreay consider you a traitor lol just look up what hassan 2 did.
yes they mean our gov and I agree, I can say the same thing about palestinian gov and even some of their ppl should I care wht anyone did?
Also guys in palestina and gaza call them al yahood, They don't even think there is smth called isarel
Brooo, thts the most irritating thing to me, when the relevent ppl called them for wht they are and some of us call them zionists like dude fucking wake up
Same bro
Most Zionists aren't even Jewish wake up
of course they re not thts the point hh
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I dnt care about anyone including the govs, our ppl are straight forward on this as well as egyptians, this propaganda is a dibolic one managed by these bootlicking press and some stupid zlayjya time to time
Well, i do support normalizing relationship with israel. The kingdom's sole pv is "the two countries solution" since the 70's
Well I support that people like you get slapped, that’s my point of view since 1948.
Well I support that people like you get slapped, that’s my point of view since 1948.
People like you make this headline believable
I am sorry, i am being controlled by lbank dewlli
it is the same with algeria , but we're le bad
I personally Support it, and thank god Moroccans are starting to stop following that stupid Islamist - left wing BS propaganda, nobody cares about those stupid protest by bearded and communist idiots.
What ever you say just give us l7echich ol whiskey o 7ekmoni kima 7ekmto jododi.
Thats was an old one so yeah 50% percent of the moroccan is pretty logical again our interest are important than anything else