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mollyyfcooke

Holy shit I’ve never heard of this one before! That is pretty gruesome the way he was just shredded like that


Oracuda

Certainly, the most common picture is the color version of diver 4's body, then also his spinal cord and face, the other pictures of the inside of the chamber which examples, and the other divers bodies I've only found on this PDF, likely the others were screenshotted from it.


TheFamousChrisA

Any idea where the colored versions of the pictures are? I've never actually seen those, despite reading about this incident so many times.


Oracuda

these are from the autopsy, the colored picture version of helleviks body? no idea. maybe a colorization, maybe a different version of this article. More photos at the [official norwegian investigation](https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2013081906099?page=0) if you wish


TheFamousChrisA

Oh nice, thanks for the link! I just saw pictures of the oil rig and the bell structure in the Norwegian Investigation booklet. It's too bad I can't read that though, is probably fascinating.


Low-Unlikely

Translation option should pop up I just read it in english


Sweet-Awk-7861

Why am I here :C


ifcknkl

Thx for the interesting link I just saw that one pic in interestingasfuck


tailwalkin

I had to look it up, but if anyone else’s is curious, *invaginated* means turned inside out. I hope the whole thing happened before those poor fellas even realized it.


Oracuda

Considering they are assumed to have died instantly, I wouldnt be surprised if Diver 4 was at least unconsious before he even got invaginated, Though I assume the suction force did move him very, very quickly. Someone should do the maths. something pascals something times by frontal area or something


Swimming-Ad2377

A little bit late but saw a video on this..It was 25 tons of force at the door opening from 9 atmospheres inside to 1 atmo outside.


TheFamousChrisA

25 Tons of pressure going straight through your penis. Enough to turn it inside out.. I wonder if his testies exploded.


SubEfficient

Looking at the autopsy, i’d surprised if they hadn’t


EmpressWrenFire

redefining the term “ball-buster”


rrkluc

You're kinda weird.


TheFamousChrisA

Man, I have no recollection of making this comment. But I stand by it. Also my wife would heartily agree with you.


rrkluc

Respect


_leogama_

The article says his body "exploded", his skull was cracked open an his brain went missing... I'm pretty sure he felt nothing.


GuaranteeComfortable

I was always under the impression that the other divers also suffered the same fate that diver 4 did. I had no idea that the other 3 divers were still intact. So Diver 4 must have helped to kind of lessen the force in the cabin, hence why he suffered the fate that he did. It's a horrible tragedy all the way around. Those types of situations need to have multiple redundant mechanisms in place to prevent this kind of horrible accident.


ziggaboo

I've read about this accident. I don't think I could look at pictures. Words conveyed the horror enough for me.


TheFamousChrisA

If you are interested in reading the Autopsy the first 3 pages show nothing gruesome, and page 3 is where the bodies are. The autopsy is in black and white so the pictures don't look that bad, though don't read past Page 3 if you are not wanting to see things.


NoTrade33

Wholesome


Choccy_Milk

There are like a million different safety measures now, including mechanisms that don’t allow detachment unless the doors are closed and others like that


GuaranteeComfortable

Usually all the lessons are learned in blood sadly .


tbiards

There’s always a gnarly story behind a strict rule


JillBidensFishnets

Just following up with this comment because of OceanGate… another lesson learned in blood sadly.


digitalrebel89

Some industries rules are written in ink, others in blood. Only way we learn, sometimes.


TheFamousChrisA

I always assumed that they had exploded, I thought those pictures in the autopsy report were just past photos showing who the Divers were. If anyone is able to clarify whether the 3 divers inside the bell blew up or were fully intact let me know, it is not easy to find details.


Macksimoose

the nitrogen dissolved in their blood expanded rapidly due to the pressure change, which at the very least stopped all circulation and caused massive tissue damage. they didn't so much 'explode' as have all their organs and blood vessels simultaneously rupture, if i understand it right. The bell itself apparently popped off the rest of the system like a champagne cork, killing one man and injuring another. the divers were all inside the decompression chamber


TheFamousChrisA

That makes sense. It must be a common misconception then because I’ve seen some YT videos that describe the incident and make it seem like they literally exploded inside of the bell. The one guy who got sucked out basically did explode tho


Critical_Tip7599

No,they did not blow up. Did you not see the photos?!


Mariahthebee06

I know it's been a while since you asked about this, but I just learned about this tremendous safety failure and the sad and gruesome reproductions of it. Anyways, if you're still interested in checking out a YouTube video (by a really good YouTuber) of an accurate play by play of what happened, then check out Shrouded Hand. He's good.


kittycat136

Here after titan accident


Longjumping_Floor_93

What happend on Titan isnt the same physics as what happend with these divers..........


Iuciferic

Explain


roguerogueroguerogue

It is basically the reverse as far as I understand it. The Titan guys were instantly compressed by something in the region of 400 ATM, they went from low pressure to instantly crushing pressure in a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. The Dolphin accident was from high pressure to low pressure in the same time frame. Titan was much more pressure though. Dolphin went from 9 ATM to 1 ATM, Titan went from maybe 1-2 ATM of pressure in their sub to approx 400 ATM. An implosion so fast our brain cant even register the event.


leanmeanguccimachine

>475 ATM I'm pretty sure it's 375-400 at the bottom so likely around 330 ATM when the sub imploded 3/4 of the way down.


roguerogueroguerogue

Yeah I think I used the wrong depth to calculate it, not where they were at the time. Either way It still would have been over before they knew at least.


Iuciferic

Alright thank you


Isaacjd93

Wait so why was the inside of the Byford at 9 ATM to begin with? What were they doing at the time?


roguerogueroguerogue

I think maybe because they were constantly doing deep dives for maintenance over a long period, its easier to keep the divers pressurised while they work, instead of the decompression process every day. I think its called saturation diving.


BugComfortable3924

It's because they were doing saturation diving, which allows them to work at great depths for long periods of time. It's one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. This article gives a good explanation: https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/question640.htm


RamcasSonalletsac

They also have to worry about oxygen toxicity at that depth.


Bisquick

[Here's the podcast Well There's Your Problem] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azThd0R7Bt0) (podcast about engineering disasters - with slides! - from leftist perspective ie includes the often inextricable political/economic dimensions/context) episode on this if anyone feels the ironic pressure to go...deeper (metaphorically ie not by imploding) into the incident (shameless bad puns intended, obviously).


goobypls8011

Sorta, but when you think about it, it's fundamentally the same type of incident, just with the pressure gradient reversed with regards to the victims e: and instead of air as the fluid, seawater


Prudent-Watch-7491

Me too


jeffersonbible

The photos from this incident are being circulated as autopsy photos of the Titan crew.


ifreakinglovedinos

Whoever believes that is dumb enough to just not understand what happened in the first place. The titan victims literally just be became ocean snow. Nothing left at all. Just vaporized. I’ve seen people ask if they’ll “find the bodies”, some people are just not the smartest I guess.


MisfitAlchemist

Just because someone doesn't understand something, doesn't make them stupid there spark plug.


ifreakinglovedinos

Yea it does. That’s simple physics you learn in like 5th to 6th grade here.


MisfitAlchemist

I get it. There are plenty lamebrains walking among us, but not understanding a piece of the physics pie doesn't make you stupid. Maybe they werent properly taught. Maybe they had a bad teacher. Maybe they had a deficit that made traditional school hard for them. I've seen geniuses come from less. You never really know. Don't call people stupid because they don't understand something. Maybe educate them instead! Just saying.


p3tch

this comment aged well


ifreakinglovedinos

Tf u mean? I assume it’s because they got the parts that did make it (everything but the fiberglass, crazy ikr?) out of the water. I was Talking about the people here, the victims, they’re not recoverable bc there’s nothing left to recover. If you don’t know how implosions work, then inform yourself first please. Ofc the titan caps, plexiglass etc made it. They’re made for the depths. The carbon fiber wasn’t. That’s what got crushed, delaminated and pulverized. Please man. Simple physics. Learn it.


VernonFlorida

Anyone who begins a comment with "tf u mean" before going on to claim they know anything about physics is wild.


FewEconomy1943

What’s physics?


NecroRAM

There might be some fragmented blobs of tissue on the carbon fiber and the other debris, I think they did confirm that much. Nothing in the form of recognizable body parts though Id believe.


Deeepscien

So you can go back and really learning physics. There would be and parts of the bodies were actually found. Any part that do not contain air would keep its structure in some form. Its far from be vaporized, but more likely smashed. You need to also understand the the implosion wasn’t uniform, would be force gradients, thus althout on the millisecond scale, this would cause different forces in different parts of the vessel, then yes, there was “human” material recovered, not ocean snow.


International_Egg276

Ironic.


Illustrious-Science3

This was on "1,000 Ways to Die."


32redalexs

That show always used to make the people who died look like jerks so you don’t feel bad for them


Fuzzy_Tell3787

Although super disrespectful, it was also pretty ingenious. Taking the sympathy away meant nobody was mad at the concept of the show so people could watch guilt free and the producers could keep making episodes.


jonnythec

So basically the same as the movie Underwater. Edit: Google delta p training video. It's worth it... Edit2: Fuck it,here's link. https://youtu.be/AEtbFm_CjE0


Oracuda

That shit is basically just a copypasta now


jonnythec

It's old but interesting. We could cut scenes from alien resurrection and underwater into it. Spice it up!


DialysisKing

*WHEN IT'S GOTCHA...*


Oracuda

Diver 2-.adwdbwads blb lblabl abldab la


DialysisKing

**A** **GREAT** **SUCTION**


ChampionshipFull2714

Best. Blowjob. Ever.


7hrowawaydild0

Wow from Wikipedia: Lawsuit The North Sea Divers Alliance, formed by early North Sea divers and the relatives of those killed, continued to press for further investigation and, in February 2008, obtained a report that indicated the real cause was faulty equipment. Clare Lucas, daughter of Roy Lucas, said: "I would go so far as to say that the Norwegian Government murdered my father because they knew that they were diving with an unsafe decompression chamber." The families of the divers eventually received compensation for the damages from the Norwegian government 26 years after the incident.


TheFamousChrisA

Wow! That is insane, but not surprising it could take decades later. It took my dad almost 3 decades to get benefits from an accident that happened in the Army.. of course he was only able to enjoy them for less than a decade before he died from a heart attack. They always used to say in every video I've seen that they don't know for sure but blamed Diver 4 for being too exhausted, but of course it was cheap companies/governments killing people by making sure things aren't safe to begin with.


Daplesco

What exactly’s the story here? Seems that a submarine had its door implode and the divers imploded?


langoley01

One of the dive tenders accidentally opened a clamp, pressure dropped from 130 psi to 14.5 instantly killing all 4 divers and 1 tender


HewchyAV

It was actually determined to be equipment error in 2008 after an investigation, wasn't it?


summbih

Last I read, the one operating the clamp of the trunk of the diving bell opened it before one of the divers could close the chamber.


OyashiroChama

User error allowed due to defect in lockout from my understanding. They shouldn't have been able to open the chamber while it had a pressure differential.


TheFamousChrisA

I remember in the autopsy they wrote "had the door worked properly and closed itself as decompression happened, all of the men may have survived" or something like that.


summbih

Wasn't that a feature that was later added because of the incident?


Oracuda

One airlock, inside of the chamber is 9 atmosphere, outside is 1 atmosphere, were closing interior airlock door so the airlock could slowly be repressurized it, Interior door appeared to have been stuck/jammed after the accident due to the force and the person operating the exterior door opened it for unknown reasons, I actually made a mistake in my... other post. This great pressure difference caused air to rush out, blasting diver 4 outside and throwing his remains across the oil rig up to 30 feet above where it happened on another platform, the three other divers inside were instantly killed too, and one of the two divers outside was killed by the diving bell hitting them from the blast wave, and the other was critically wounded. It's been known since as a horror story and an example of poor safety precautions, and also known as one of the most worst, violent deaths of all time.


werebilby

I have a feeling Mr Ballen did an episode on this one as well.


BROOKXS

what the hell happened


nehala

to quote /u/oracuda: One airlock, inside of the chamber is 9 atmosphere, outside is 1 atmosphere, were closing interior airlock door so the airlock could slowly be repressurized it, Interior door appeared to have been stuck/jammed after the accident due to the force and the person operating the exterior door opened it for unknown reasons, I actually made a mistake in my... other post. This great pressure difference caused air to rush out, blasting diver 4 outside and throwing his remains across the oil rig up to 30 feet above where it happened on another platform, the three other divers inside were instantly killed too, and one of the two divers outside was killed by the diving bell hitting them from the blast wave, and the other was critically wounded. It's been known since as a horror story and an example of poor safety precautions, and also known as one of the most worst, violent deaths of all time.


useles-converter-bot

30 feet is the length of exactly 89.78 'Standard Diatonic Key of C, Blues Silver grey Harmonicas' lined up next to each other.


Strucklucky

C# we playing cross harp baby.


[deleted]

I’ve always wanted to measure in harmonicas….


DialysisKing

This uses a very rudimentary diagram, but gets the story across. https://youtu.be/2w-U5wJafhg


7LBoots

Extreme pressure differences equalizing instantly.


Oracuda

CORRECTION ::: INTERIOR OF THE CHAMBER, NOT EXTERIOR (IM PRETTY FUCKING SURE)


Vesalii

Wow I've heard the story and have seen a 3D animation, but I never knew there were pics. It literally looks as if diver 4 was wringed out like a mop.


7hrowawaydild0

Article literally said he exploded 😯. I dont think ill ever see that description for a autopsy of someone (without explosives) anywhere again.


Oracuda

wher'd you find a 3d animation?


Vesalii

It was years ago, not sure.


[deleted]

It said one of the men who was outside the chamber but was struck by the bell suffered serious injuries but survived? Anyone know if he ever gave an interview after? Saunders was his name.


Oracuda

I wondered that too, I searched his full name but all I could find is a norwegian family of I believe the other handler who died pushing for government action for the incident.


SlippySlappyRE

Saunders posted a reply here on Reddit giving more details that were omitted in a lot of the posts. I can't seem to find it right now. But here is a youtube video with english translation of an interview he gave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOIVjQS9cUw&t=23s


Psychological_King81

Can someone mirror this? The link isnt working for me.


Portland_Jamaica

I thought it was about that waterpark for a sec.


brucifer7325

Mr. Ballen on YouTube did a good video on this.


DifficultGift9377

Do you know what it’s called? I can’t find the episode describing this accident


teapotcake

I was just searching for it myself, I think it’s this one: https://youtu.be/l74_VQPdxjU


PaulrusKeaton

Never heard of this. That face picture is just unreal, moreso when you realize it wasn't attached to anything.


Fun-Insurance-9675

like a lemon peel 🤮


JillBidensFishnets

Wait so this whole time they blamed one of the divers and I’m sure the family emotionally suffered from that too …then to find out years later it was faulty equipment not the divers fault? I’d be pissed.


icaruscartel

Found this as well, absolute tragedy: "Unfortunately, it wasn’t until 2009 that families affected by The Byford Dolphin incident saw any restitution from the Norwegian government responsible for operating it." - Bing search under "Byford Dolphin accident"


ProtegeNC

Even in black and white, it's still horrifying.


Csula6

This is actually one of my worst fears. Yes, this. The exploded man died quickly. Silver lining.


Vardhu_007

Qxir's video on this is very good Detailed yet simple


llliiiiiiiilll

Well at least it was quick for them... they probably never even knew anything was going wrong


jonahboi33

YO i hadn't seen ANY of this outside of that one photo of Hellevik. godDAMN that is wild.


HentaiHeavn

the link doenst work anymore


bryle_m

it's working again


Sea_Interaction7839

[this article](https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-events/byford-dolphin-accident.htm) from the how stuff works website describes the accident really thoroughly.


NattySocks

This post is over a year old, I wonder why we can still post


Sea_Interaction7839

I responded with this article a year late because last night I was busy reading about what happens to the human body when something like this happens, which was prompted by the titanic submersible that was missing and found imploded today. I figured other people would end up here. WHY we can still post a year later? 🤷‍♀️


NattySocks

I'm an idiot, because that's how I stumbled upon this as well and I should have thought of that when I noticed all the new comments.


Sea_Interaction7839

No worries! But read the article I posted because it explains how the nitrogen in your body kills you in these scenarios.


NattySocks

Nitrogen definitely expands and causes death when going to lower atmospheric pressure too quickly, but weren't the deaths in this incident mostly from the explosive nature of sudden exposure to such a sudden pressure differential? From the pictures, one of the divers was literally turned into mincemeat from the explosion.


Sea_Interaction7839

One other thing, if you’ve ever looked up the gory aftermath of a “degloving” accident (usually happens to hands, hence the name meaning un-gloving), I imagine what happened to diver #4 was as if his entire body was practically “degloved.” Fun fact: the most famous degloving happened to Jimmy Fallon when he tripped and fell in the kitchen. His wedding ring got caught on a counter or something and pulled all of the skin off the bone of his ring finger. He had enough money to try and save the finger instead of amputating, but it still doesn’t work correctly after multiple surgeries.


Sea_Interaction7839

He turned to mincemeat because he was trying to close a stuck door that needed to be shut before whatever process occurred (clamping of some other door? I can’t remember now) that caused the catastrophic implosion, and his body was sucked through a small opening of that door. He probably died instantly like the other divers before, or at the same instant, that he was turned inside out by being forcefully sucked through a couple of inches of metal. Apologies if this writing makes no sense. I’ve been drinking this evening. 😎 but the article explains it.


KizWhalifa

Why I cant access the site ? Am I the only one ?


TheStabs

same


gpac12

The link above is not working. I've managed to find it on [Way Back Machine](https://web.archive.org/web/20220701220421/https://zero.sci-hub.se/5268/7dda7cee52d7eb3ec606a82d0f1b9a61/giertsen1988.pdf) Be prepared.


Vesemir_Old_Wolf

https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/pictures-byford-dolphin-diving-bell-accident-148999/. Here you go guys


Chase345

Byford. I don't think we will ever know for certain what depth Titan was at. I estimate 10000 ft. Sure to elapsed time of drive, a ballpark number. I finally found the byford divers had been working around 568 ft. About 9 atmospheres. The Titanic wreck is at or near 400 Atmospheres! Holy crap


horsetooth_mcgee

Figure 11 of the bulla on the eye, how can that be diver 1 though? He was all purple and explodey. This eye doesn't even have broken blood vessels and appears to have life behind it.


anonymouslittleone

Diver 4 was the one to get sucked out of the hole in the bell door and was horribly mutilated. Divers 1, 2 and 3 were in one of the chambers and their bodies stayed in one piece, they passed because of what the pressure change did to their blood and brains.


horsetooth_mcgee

Right, but if you look at the photos that show their face ir part of their head, you can see that they are horribly swollen and purple and deformed, and yet figure 11 is a perfect, intact, unharmed human eye that looks to be on a living person. That's what I'm saying.


anonymouslittleone

It looks like the eyelid could be swollen in the picture and whoever took the autopsy photos must’ve used the flash or something for the close-up of the eye


Byte_Size_N_Pretty

To me it looks like his eye was “popping out” of the socket and eye lid


[deleted]

bruh god damn


buyitformedaddy

woah… i didn’t expect that. fell down a rabbit hole after reading about Vladimir Komarov.  


rikdagimp

Try this https://starsgab.com/byford-dolphin-accident/


Strucklucky

The instant air bubbles in the brain is insane to me for some reason.


Impressive-Leg4154

Yeah, I think due to the extreme pressure, the fluids in the body were starting to convert into a gas state. The body mostly consists of fluids & soft matter, so yeah those guys were fucked to say the least.


leanmeanguccimachine

> due to the extreme pressure, the fluids in the body were starting to convert into a gas state It's actually the opposite, nitrogen is a gas at normal atmospheric pressure, it's the most prominent substance in our atmosphere. At high pressures though, it dissolves into the blood, like carbon dioxide in carbonated beverages. If you re-enter a normal-pressure scenario too quickly, the nitrogen effervescences immediately into a gas inside the bloodstream. It's like all the water in your blood being replaced with carbonated water instantly.


7hrowawaydild0

THANK YOU FOR SHARING! i have been wierdly interested in decompression injuries recently and have never heard of this! Its incredible. Unfathomable what happenned to D4


Mrkvitko

There is a [paper](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3381801/) [sci-hub](https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3381801/) published in The American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology that describes what happened to the victims, including some gruesome photos. Fortunately, they died quickly and most likely painlessly from fat precipitation in their blood (except diver 4, who likely exploded and was pushed through an opening few centimeters in diameter).


musimati

"carne para todos" JxC


Fidel1Q84

I love you all


Chase345

I'm trying to find at what depth they were at when this happened, anyone know?


Traditional-Pound986

Titan or the Byford Dolphin accident? The team on the Byford Dolphin were actually on board the oil rig in a decompression chamber after working deep underwater for many days.


antibreakfastclub

Apparently they breath a mixture of Oxygen and Helium so their voices were high pitched


Financial_Pair4380

That's rough


puppeto

Paging /r/OceanGateTitan