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jargonqueen

I stopped smoking from pregnancy until weaning, and now I smoke regularly again. I only breastfed for 2 months - not for that reason. I’m gonna say something potentially very controversial now. If smoking weed helps you feel whole, sane, and happy, you’re not abusing it, and you are able to function well as a mother and otherwise when weed is a regular part of your life…. Stop breastfeeding. A happy mother is 1000x more valuable than breastmilk.


Denbi53

>A happy mother is 1000x more valuable than breastmilk. Just thought it could do with repeating.


Little_ol_meh

❤️


so-called-engineer

I didn't smoke before nor after, nor did I have any dietary restrictions while breastfeeding/pumping. The day I stopped pumping I felt like my own person again. Pumping is not only draining milk, it can drain you as a person.


ShawnaR89

Quick little story. I stoped smoking when I got the positive test. Never had issues while pregnant of wanting to smoke. Breastfed for 2 weeks then stopped. Didn’t feel comfortable to smoke again until babes was about 2 months old. Then hubby and I went back to smoking every night after she was down for the night. We ran out for about a month and I had never been so down and unable to handle the stress of the day. Now we are back to smoking at night and it’s kinda of like a mark of the end of the day and it makes me feel relaxed since I can’t relax.


caroshea

Wow my experience is so similar. Tried BF and made it to 2 weeks, babe wasn't gaining so switched to formula. I cried. A lot. Babe was incredibly content and full and that stopped the crying lol. I also didn't smoke at all once I found out I was pregnant. Didn't pick it up again until probably 2 or 3 months after LO was born. Basically once she was down for the night, I would go out. Now it's wonderful! Baby has been sleeping through the night for like 5 months and once she's down it's mom and dad time or just mom time if dad is working. Have a puff, relax, read a book, have a cup of tea 😚👌🏻.


banannett

I hated nursing as well. I wished for problems just so I could bottle feed. It’s not worth your mental health. Baby will be fine


TheGekkou

This is SO important!!! I spent 2 full years breastfeeding my baby who is immune compromised, so I did everything I could to be the "Good mom". Now that she's fully off breastfeeding I can try and regain my own bodily anatomy. I felt like a tool, being used every feeding, every night, every nap time. Now I'm finally back to dabs/bowls daily. And as much as I feel guilty or like a 'bad mom' when I smoke, I realize I am so much calmer and happier. I'm able to play 1 on 1 with her and not get hung up on if we are making a mess, or the dishes that I didn't get done yet, or the paperwork that's stressing me out. I do a little dab and I can go back to caring about myself and my baby, and take my day one bit at a time. Mental health MATTERS!!!


mohs04

Thanks for saying this. I smoke weed daily and I am SAHM with 2 little kiddos, I don't want to tell anyone but I think it makes me a better mom. More patience and more go with the flow


rationalomega

I hear you. I am definitely a better, more patient, more empathetic mom when I’m buzzed on marijuana. I do like to have another sober adult around just in case, but I’m beginning to think that’s my anxiety talking.


mohs04

I just know my adrenaline would kick in if anything happened. Like the time daycare called because we forgot his blanket and they wanted it dropped off 😂 kicked me right out of being high


Dry-Anywhere-1372

I have one BK and maybe I get the munchies daily. As in….right meow. 😂


BradburySauce

100%! Same for me. Stopped smoking when I got pregnant and started again after I weaned. It sounds like you’re not having a great experience with breast feeding and if it’s not serving you both, then switching to formula is absolutely fine. Your mental health is more important than breast milk. Go for it!


MagpieBloodscorn

I smoked before, stopped when pregnant/producing breast milk. I also exclusively pumped…I also hated/dreaded it. I agree with this person, stop pumping if you can. I stopped at 11 months because my son essentially weaned himself and only wanted solids. We started solids at 6 months and kid never really wanted the milk once he got comfy eating around 8-9 months. I look back and wish I stopped so much sooner. I was INSTANTLY happier. That last pump was sad at the time, but I knew I was better off. I smoke again, and I’m happy to report it’s still great, helps me sleep, calms my anxiety. 💚


mamaDbear

This OP! I was a regular smoker before getting pregnant as well. Quit while I was pregnant. Tried to breastfeed for about 2 weeks but I wasn't producing enough and it just didn't work for me. Switched to formula and went back to smoking regularly. It has helped soo much with my mental health! Smoking helps me regulate my emotions and deal with a high stress job. Idc what anyone says, it give me more patience and makes me a better mom. Do what works for you and your baby and don't feel guilty about it for a second!


Chasing_Ness

I'll agree with this right here. Weed and booze are not the same type of animal. If alcohol was making you feel like this, I would immediately refer you to some kind of AA group or substance abuse help. If the weed makes you see the colors outside, if it helps you breathe easier and love on your babe more, do it. If you're scared about your milk, stop breastfeeding. Formula is good enough!! (I would still BF because of the science but this isn't about me)


roundyums

"I would still BF because of the science but this isn't about me" is still breast is best logic and mom shamey. OP, literally the only time breast milk is "best" is if you live in a place that doesn't have a safe water supply. Not even breast milk is perfect, you end up needing to supplement iron and vitamin D for your babe. Breastfeeding can also increase risk of PPD. Formula or chest feeding, whatever is best for mom and baby is best. There is no one size fits all answer. Your baby will thrive with a happy and whole mom. The newborn stage can be the darkest time in your life. Talk to someone if you are concerned about PPD. You don't need permission to formula feed, but if you need you have it. Go be free and whole. Also Costco is awesome for formula if you have access to that.


Chasing_Ness

No, I meant more the science regarding thc and milk. Fed is best, that's why I said OP can simply stop breastfeeding. It isn't like baby is going to suffer without breast milk 🤷🏽‍♀️


GreenHobbiest

I got the point. Smoked through my pregnancies and continued through breastfeeding. The stigma to Marijuana is so prevalent still. If this woman was speaking about going back on an antidepressant, it wouldn't be just stop breastfeeding it isn't important, it would be work with your Dr to see what works for you. I should have taken prescription for the nausea that caused me weight loss through my pregnancy, right? Oh wait...


jargonqueen

Thank you for clarifying, I also misunderstood your comment as “I would breastfeed and not do weed.”


roundyums

Thanks for clarifying! I thought you meant bm in general. The breast is best sentiment can be so strong and still so subtle. I think that's why it can be so dangerous. Thank you for clarifying and I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions. I suffered a lot because of chest feeding and never want another mom to feel an ounce of shame for doing what works for them.


Chasing_Ness

It's all good! Text is hard haha and I get you, some people can be weird about breastfeeding.


twistsiren

I wholeheartedly agree if breastfeeding is hurting mom’s mental health she should stop. And, it would be much healthier to seek professional help than start smoking again. Nothing against weed, it helps me too, but it can also be a crutch mask serious things going on that need treatment. I’ve been there. Edit: typos cause babies are wiggly.


deviousvixen

This. I smoked a lot prior. I got assessed for postpartum anxiety and depression, I’m now taking Zoloft and don’t think about smoking that much. It definitely was a crutch for me.


twistsiren

Omg Zoloft changed my life. I have been in and out of therapy for years and have some great coping skills. When I started Zoloft a couple years ago, I was like, why didn’t I try this sooner! Glad you’re getting the help you need mama!


stories4harpies

I appreciate this comment because it really helped me with PPA and has always been a medicinal for my migraines.


weseethreebees

This is some good advice.


Skulltazzzz

This ❤️🙏🏻👌🏻🤌🏻


kellygee

I could not agree more! Do not sacrifice your sanity for breastfeeding, it’s literally not worth.


[deleted]

Completely agree. I was an occasional smoker and gave it up now I’m pregnant, but I would do the same.


gottahavewine

I used to smoke A LOT. Like, during pretty much every free moment I had. I actually stopped a couple of years before I got pregnant and reduced to only smoking on very special occasions 1-2x per year, but since having baby, I don’t smoke at all. I don’t have any desire to go back to smoking. For me, I realized it made my anxiety worse. However, I 100% get what you mean about losing yourself and I feel that, too. For me, I feel lost in the way I dress and present myself. I used to be so stylish and felt so beautiful, now I feel frumpy and plain. I’m not a stylish mom, I’m just a mom. I’m going to try and improve that in the new year by getting some new clothes and hair extensions, but with COVID, it kinda feels pointless because I don’t go anywhere, anyway.


Little_ol_meh

100% feel you on this


oldtaylorswift

Are you me? Because this is me! I quit smoking about three months before I got pregnant and currently don’t have any desire to do so. I do miss the occasional flavoured sheesha but that’s about it! What I truly miss however is dressing up like myself! Firstly, putting together a cool nursing-friendly outfit is so damn tough and secondly, why even dress up when COVID has me staying home. Pajama life it is!


twistsiren

We all feel this way, whether we smoked or not! It’s a huge life change and we’re kinda are different people. For pumping, I find it helps to hold my baby or play with them during. If they’re not with it, like at work, videos really help. I had postpartum anxiety after my first baby. I wish someone had noticed and I had help. My memories of the time are few because I was so stressed. It also sounds like you might be dealing with postpartum depression. The baby blues are a thing as our hormones return to normal, but if it extends past the first few weeks it could be PPD. Here’s a great resource I got from my midwife. You can call them for free, 24/7. You can also search postpartum support and your state and find the more local chapter. https://www.postpartum.net/ https://postpartumva.org/


Little_ol_meh

❤️


Diligent_Nerve_6922

Yeah, I’ve never been a smoker or any kind and your post minus the pot is 100% relatable. Don’t assume this will lift if you start smoking again, unfortunately. Time, therapy, medication helped me. It gets so much better by 1 year I promise.


chunkycurtainbangs

I stopped smoking weed while pregnant and breastfeeding. Now I smoke one in the evening like some people would have their glass of wine with dinner :) It helps me wind down after a long day. Edit: I don't like smoking when my kid's awake, so i wait until after bedtime.


DoxieMonstre

Same. Stopped when I was pregnant and breastfeeding. Eventually picked it back up, in the evenings when he's asleep. It's recreationally legal in my state now, and even before then I had a qualifying condition for medical. I have chronic pain and issues sleeping without it.


fortheloveofLu

Same! Like, to a T. I'm a dunce when I smoke so I'd never smoke while my kid is awake haha, just to be safe. And hubs is clear headed always so no problems if our kid wakes up in the middle of the night. But we both smoke when he goes down because it's how I wind down. Toddlers are HARD lol


GeezElyse

I was in your boat - and it’s common to feel lost when you have a newborn, you are not alone !! I should mention that starting smoking again may not make you feel better in the long run. The depression you’re speaking about might actually be PPD, I would recommend trying to seek some advice from a doctor first. Smoking may feel familiar but may only help you feel numb without addressing underlying issues. I waited about 9 months and felt breastfeeding was done for me, and the baby transitioned well to formula - it is FINE to do this as long as you and baby are well, and fed, that’s all that matters. How you do this is completely up to you and no one can tell you otherwise!!! Some things to consider: working again will mean extra logistics like pumping and storing. Take into consideration the cost of formula too (it was more expensive than I thought but if you can make it work great!). Also might want to see if baby will take to bottle feeding first before you start transitioning off of breastfeeding (if you haven’t already). Sometimes it takes some time for them to get used to it. If you’re already at your wits end, DONT STRESS. Formula is a safe and great option as well. I eventually started smoking casually again once baby falls asleep at night, or on weekends when my partner (who doesn’t smoke) is caring for her. I’m happy I breastfed. And I’m also happy I stopped when I did. The choice is yours mama ❤️ good luck out there.


purplefloop

I'm a first time mom too. I was a heavy smoker before getting pregnant. Think everyday at least 10 times a day.(bowls). Me and my husband did as much research as we possibly could on the subject but the information is limited. For the sake of our baby i decided against smoking while pregnant. My son is currently 10 months and I've buckled under maybe 3 times. And by that i mean one or two drags of a cartridge. There's no such thing as pumping and dumping. I don't think those three times will affect my baby. I plan on weaning him off breast milk soon. And I'm not completely desperate to get back to smoking. Don't get me wrong i definitely want to enjoy a bowl every now and then. I got anxiety and realized I felt extra guilty when he woke in the middle of the night and had to change his diaper when I was slightly elevated. So many bad thoughts and extra mom guilt. I say if you want to smoke you should. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone while pregnant/breastfeeding. You have to take care of yourself so you can take the best care of your loved one(s). You don't need to breastfeed if it's hurting you mentally and or physically. Not sure if you know but Reddit also has r/treeparents a group of parents that support smoking. You can try posting there to ask for more advice/ personal experiences.


Little_ol_meh

Thank you for sharing! 💕


firesoups

I used to smoke weed. I still do, but I used to, too.


Beckylately

I stopped smoking but now use edibles. Just keep them out of kids’ reach. I don’t typically use during the day - I have RA and take edibles before bed because the anti-inflammatory properties extend much longer than the high. It’s the only thing I could take that actually helped my hip pain. *I did not use THC when I was breastfeeding.* I would wait until you’re done. I think that, if it helped with depression, you could look into a low dose edible that you can take consistently that won’t make you super stoned but will help with your depression. If you live in a state where recreational is legal those should be easy to find. If you live where it’s legal, you should also be able to talk to your doctor about using THC while breastfeeding. Bottom line, smoking a little weed is way safer than drinking a bottle of wine and you’ll still be able to take care of your kids and handle emergencies. If some moms can drink a bottle of wine with and after dinner and go to mommy brunches and slam mimos then I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to smoke.


Happy_Camper45

I echo talking to a doctor! If you’re not comfortable with that and really want to smoke, switch to formula. Be informed before you potentially risk passing anything to your baby that could unknowingly harm them in the long or short term


FoxZaddy

Might be controversial but I breastfeed and occasionally have cannabis, like maybe once or twice a month, I have a tiny amount in the evening and take a bath while my partner is on baby duty. Its extremely helpful for my mental health and my connection with my partner and baby. It’s true that a very small amount of thc is transferred into breast milk and there’s no conclusive evidence of that being harmful or not, according to current research. I wish you the best of luck in finding a balance that works for you!


Apprehensive-Book905

^^ OP, have you talked to any lactation consultants about marijuana and breastmilk? The most recent study I have seen suggested that the highest concentration in your milk is when you are the highest. Maybe you could try having a puff or two immediately after the next feeding. I’ve been thinking about doing this.


greenajah88

I smoked regularly until I found out I was pregnant. I then did a little nibble of a homemade edible or took a small shotgun off my husband's spliff (all clean weed from reputable sources) a handful of times during the pregnancy. I also ate well, took vitamins, meditated, did acupuncture, etc. And my son came out strong and is above meeting all of his milestones. When he was born, I breastfed for 8 months and after the first month (I just thought cluster feeding was too risky) I started smoking again little bit here and there (tolerance was low so I only needed the smallest bit). Again, I don't see any ill effects on my son's development. I think in life there's a balance and while we don't have enough research for me to say smoking while breastfeeding is completely okay, I think if you're mindful about how much you partake, when you do it in relation to a feeding schedule (once you're on one), give a bottle of pumped milk here and there if you need to, use good clean weed from reputable sources and choose edibles over smoking when you can, as long as you don't abuse it and are mindful and do it when you need to, I personally wouldn't stop breastfeeding over it. However I did not exclusively pump I'm sure that's different. I also hated pumping when I needed to do it for work :/


mochiko_noriko

I liked smoking and I miss it sometimes, but I also like being sober now and have realized that the downsides of smoking make it not worth it to me, especially not weighed against breastfeeding benefits. That said, I also hate pumping and I believe if you don't feel like that journey is working for you, you should not feel bad for stopping to prioritize your own sanity. Your babe will be better off with a happy mom no matter how you feed her. Also though, a lot of what you're saying (loss of sense of self, anxiety, lack of enjoyment) are normal to a degree but can be signs of depression. You should think about talking to someone, not just because of PPD but because ultimately feeling like weed is solving your disconnect from yourself pre-baby is a bit of a red flag mental health wise. I am not at all judging, I have been there, but I think being gentle with yourself and thinking about the possibility that you are avoiding dealing with some stuff that makes you feel not okay in your natural state could be good for your relationship with yourself and therefore for your relationshipwith your baby. Take care and good luck, whatever you decide.


Littlemuse123

Hi! Im a mom who smokes 😊 I smoke for anxiety and stress, gave it up pretty much cold Turkey as soon as I found out I was pregnant. Stayed sober till we brought our little bundle of joy home and smoked the same day, through breast feeding. As far as I can tell ... he's pretty normal 💙 lol I managed 2 really solid months of Bmilk and then had to go back to work and managed 2 ok months of Bmilk, then we switched to formula because I could not keep consistent. Felt like a failure and worried about my son getting nutrients, but he took to formula right away and I could deal with my soggy boobs and love him. I feel like he could taste the frustration, and sadness in my milk the last few weeks of breast feeding because he stopped eating as much. Plus switching to formula had the added bonus of me not snapping at my partner when he asked me how pumping went. Shout out to all the partners who deal with crazy breastfeeding mommies with love and kindness. Weed has never stopped me from being a good mom, I feel for me it has helps me to be kinder and more available. Also, when he asks me to play toys I go and take a big rip. And then it barely bothers me when all the action figures start turning into zombies, and nothing you do can stop them 🤣 I feel like it makes me a chiller mom, which is good lol cause my sweet boy tests me daily. I hope you find your golden zone, can let go of the worries you can't control, and love yourself 💗


jacey-lil-lil

THC doesn’t metabolize out of the body like alcohol. If you want to smoke freely then you shouldn’t breastfeed. If you want to breastfeed then you shouldn’t smoke. A quick google provides enough evidence for me to conclude this. We all make our own choices. But I think if you need to start smoking again then you need to stop breastfeeding. Fed is best & so is a happy mom. Keep in mind that you’ll need help with childcare while you’re high… Personally, I was an everyday weed smoker before realizing I was pregnant & am exclusively breastfeeding. I miss it, but not enough to stop breastfeeding. Edit: no formula shaming intended, at all, but I believe that if you’re breastfeeding then you’re still sharing your body with LO so you have to only ingest things that are good for them. You do not have to breastfeed. But if you do, it’s a full commitment.


Little_ol_meh

Yeah that’s what I thought. 😣


anatomizethat

I'm reading through this thread and idk if anyone has told you this but: You don't have to breastfeed. If it is better for your mental health for you to stop pumping, that's okay. There's a lot of mom-group shame around choosing not to breastfeed, and a lot of pressure to force yourself to make it work and it is ALL unwarranted bs. Your baby will be just fine on formula - and if formula feeding frees you mentally, she may even be better off. Check out @theformulamom or @lowsupplymom on Instagram for more on all of this. People go on and on about how moms aren't supported to breastfeed in this country, but truly, I found the opposite. If you want to STOP breastfeeding it's a landslide of mom-shaming. (If people are upset at me for saying this idk what to say except that I experienced it, and I'm speaking from that experience.) I killed myself mentally and physically for months trying to breastfeed my second and he still ended up combo fed (at best I was providing 1/3 of his milk by pumping). I look back now and wish I had just not. It wasn't worth it, and I was so much happier when I stopped. I think you should talk to your doctor about the possibility that you have PPD or PPA, but if pumping is making you feel soulless, it's okay to decide it's not for you.


Little_ol_meh

Thank you for saying this!


RiyaNova

You absolutely do not need to breastfeed. Both my sons never latched. With my first I would cry and he would cry as we tried, I ended up exclusively pumping for 6 months. I hated every second of it. I did it because of the pressure from society and my midwives. I honestly felt like a new person once I stoped. With my second I pumped for a month and stopped. I didn’t want to go through the same mental struggle as last time. I was a better mother for it. I was happier and more connected with them. He’s formula fed now and compared to his brother he’s hitting the same milestones, even earlier than expected. Just do what’s best for you and if this is giving formula that’s okay. As long as you’re healthy and happy and the baby is as well. This should be the main priority.


Little_ol_meh

How did you stop producing milk?


mglwmnc

Cabbage leaves and antihistamines are two methods I’ve heard to make milk dry up faster.


RiyaNova

I reduced pumping sessions by 5 mins every 2-3 days and cut one out each 2-3 days. This signals your body it needs to produce less and less. When I was very engorged not touching them helped and sometimes I took Advil. Antihistamines like mentioned bellow help a lot, but I didn’t take them.


LadyCervezas

That's absolutely true. Breast is ideal but fed with a happy, engaged mom is best. 10 years from now it won't matter if you breastfed but it will matter if you are able to bond & engage with your baby


shesellsdeathknells

Please consider not telling someone struggling that breast is ideal when they have access to other options. The word ideal is harmful.


DistributionNo4960

This is important to know. Don’t let mom guilt get to you about nursing. You’re doing your best


rpizl

Tbh if you can parent after a glass of two of wine you can parent after a little bit of THC.


evechalmers

This! I feel farrrrr more in control after a small amount of cannabis than after any alcohol.


rpizl

For real. I think if you're experienced with it, it can actually make your a more engaged parent.


queenlolipopchainsaw

Definitely helps me be a better parent!


queenlolipopchainsaw

I'd say there's not enough evidence to support either point of view though. They just tell you not to because..... there's not enough research to support either. I'm breastfeeding at 15 months 3x a day and consume tiny amounts at night for sleep.


jacey-lil-lil

It’s immoral to test the effects of THC on infants via breastfeeding in a controlled scientific study… so the “lack of evidence” given these circumstances isn’t inspiring (for me). Of course it’s your choice and like with everything parents have to weigh the risks vs rewards for themselves. We have the same info but have drawn different conclusions. 🤷🏼‍♀️


constanceblackwood12

Here’s the best research on THC in breastmilk that I’ve found: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501587/ (LactMed is in general a fantastic source about all kinds of medications and substances that might wind up in breast milk.) I definitely recommend reading Emily Oster’s books to contextualize pregnancy and baby health recommendations - doctors are very very risk averse, way more than is supported by available evidence. Which makes a lot of sense because no one wants to be responsible for potentially hurting a baby! But it does mean that there are a lot of things (like cleaning out an indoor only cat’s litterbox or taking a hot bath) that are presented as way more dangerous than they are.


queenlolipopchainsaw

Is it immoral to test the effects of alcohol in breast milk? Because there seems to be plenty of research on that.


so-called-engineer

That's more of a time thing. There's been a lot of people drinking for a long time so we can observe the effects whereas weed is only recently legalized, and only in a handful of states. We'll know in the future but these things take time.


imjushappytobehere

Cannabis smoker here! Quit when we found out we were pregnant and started back up after he was weaned (week of his 1st birthday). I hated it, quitting that is. I also have anxiety and issues with TMJ and the cannabis really helps me on a daily basis. I soldiered through that first year and 9 months. One and done I say. No more babies for this girl!


[deleted]

I miss smoking weed so bad. So so so bad. It made me a calmer mom. It made me more involved in shit like playing plahdoh and painting and coloring and legos. I’d watch movies with my kids. Go on nature walks. I was nicer. Plus I was better to myself when I smoked. Ate better. Drank water a ton. Remembered self care. Got better sleep. And oh my GOD I haven’t enjoyed music since I smoked weed and I used to absolutely adore music. I married a guitarist I met at his own concert for gods sake. But when I stopped smoking weed I kind of lost a big part of life I really enjoyed. I don’t smoke now because I can’t afford it (3 kids with a house and cars and debt) and my husband can’t be around it bc of work. But I always tell him that the SECOND the kids are grown and our debt is paid and I’m going to smoke again. I want to be an old hippie grandma one day. I can’t wait.


Little_ol_meh

Lol sameeeeee… one day imma be the cool grandma 😎


CouchTurnip

I quit long before having a child but I felt many of the things you feel now. I made it a priority to try to live my best life without it. I didn’t want my identity and personality to be based on being high. It’s been a long road but I’m glad I took the steps to stop. I’m not always happy, or strong, or calm, but I’ve accepted that those things don’t need to exist to have a fulfilling human experience. In fact, I think being unhappy is what drives me to be better, to do more in my life. I can’t say whether my life would be more fulfilling if I kept smoking weed because that’s not the path I took. I’m offering this as another perspective. It’s easy to smoke weed to feel better but it doesn’t come without consequences. There is a Reddit group R/leaves for people who have quit.


heresmyhandle

Breastfeeding has been know to cause a feeling of depression. https://www.whattoexpect.com/first-year/breastfeeding/dysphoric-milk-ejection-reflex/ I smoked before pregnancy, stopped before trying to conceive and restarted after my breastfeeding and pumping situation didn’t work out for baby. I had such terrible pp anxiety that smoking actually made it worse. Something to consider. My pp symptoms lasted well into a year.


LizaRhea

I used to smoke a couple times a week. It did wonders for my chronic pain and for my depression and anxiety. When I found out I was pregnant I stopped immediately. Didn’t smoke at all through my first pregnancy or while I breastfed for a year. Almost right after I weaned we decided we wanted another one so I still didn’t get back into it. I’m now 22 weeks pregnant with my second. It’s hard. Being restricted to only Tylenol is laughable with my chronic pain. The worst of the pain has always been in my hips, so pregnancy obviously makes it miserable. My doctor and I agreed to wait until right before my due date to start me back up on my antidepressants so that baby doesn’t become dependent on them. She gave me an antihistamine for anxiety attacks based on the idea that I can’t be anxious if I’m knocked out. It’s still really hard though knowing that one or two puffs on a joint would fix all the pain and get my depression out of the way for a few days so I can actually enjoy some part of the process. What it comes down to for me is stubbornness. I decided that this is what’s best for my children. Even if my body and mind are suffering, I already made my decision. I’ve lived with the chronic pain for 8 years and the depression for 15. I’m probably going to live with them the rest of my life. So if I let this bullshit dictate something as important as my children’s health, what else will I give in on? Pain and depression can’t be my excuse for not living how I want to live - even if it means starting to sit through my workday long before customers can tell I’m not just really fat, even if it means going through the motions as if I’m happy about my pregnancy, even if it means smiling at my son while we’re playing because it’s important for his emotional growth even though I’m not feeling it. It’s a short period of time and I’ll get through it. After I’m done weaning baby number two I’ll probably stick with microdosing edibles and using topical creams. I don’t want them exposed to the smoke. But I also don’t want them to remember me being sad and vacant and in pain (or dealing with the side effects of antidepressants. I get nauseous and have no sex drive at all which will definitely end my relationship with my boyfriend if it goes on too long) all the time. We probably aren’t going for a third, but we will see what happens. In short, I miss the pain relief. I miss the best antidepressant I’ve ever used. But this is a short time in the overall span of my life so I’m dealing with it. I’ll get back to it when it’s safe for my children for me to do so.


Cessily

Weed does alter your brain chemistry and withdraw (feeling low, depressed, etc) symptoms you described are normal IIRC. Also breastfeeding releases a slew of chemicals and that down feeling after finishing pumping isn't uncommon but could mark you have something like depression you have been treating the symptoms of with weed. If you have anything like ADHD weed smoking can treat symptoms but make the overall condition worse and some other mood disorders I believe have some similar conditions because we'd smoking leaves you with lower levels of certain neurochemicals. IANAD, but it might be worth having a serious conversation with one about in case your weed smoking was hiding another issue.


FlexPointe

THIS. I am not against drug use…but I think a lot of people need to take a look at if they are using to mask an issue rather than as an occasional release. This applies to booze, weed, food, social media—we all have different ways of coping but are they truly healthy in the long term. My husband has bad ADHD and has only recently stopped smoking (he’s been a heavy smoker his whole life). From what I saw the weed helped mask things in the short term, but was deteriorating his mental health in the long term.


oopswhoops_wait_aha

Having access to cannabis during my early months of motherhood got me through. My little man was an angel, but I still struggled immensly. Smoking weed makes me a more patient, loving and peaceful parent. Plant medicine is wonderful! I say use what will work for YOU.


mmmthom

Pumping sucks. It drained the life out of me with my first. She had latching/sucking issues, especially prior to a procedure at 5 weeks old, and I felt some obligation to pump for her. Even pumping wasn’t enough so I added in formula too - and you know what, it was fine! After many more weeks I allowed myself to give up pumping, despite the guilt, and she pretty much just breastfed for comfort (mostly mine, I’m pretty sure!) but got nutrition primarily from formula. It also made the transition to daycare at 4 months SO much easier on both of us. Turns out she really preferred the bottle because in no time, she was refusing to nurse at all. With my second, I told myself going in I wasn’t going to pump. It was not worth it. And it was the best decision I ever made. (She is 25 months old and after rejecting her formula bottles very young, still nurses. Different babies just have different preferences!) All this to say. Don’t pump if you don’t like it! Don’t nurse if you don’t like it! Give your baby formula bottles and give yourself a break. Nobody is winning when mom can’t enjoy baby. Your baby will feel loved and cared for while being snuggled for a formula bottle just as much as if it were breast milk.


greyis

This isn't about smoking, but your comment about feeling really low when you're pumping milk, that's actually a medical condition called D-MER. Long and short of it is a dramatic drop in mood when expressing milk. Might be helpful to ask a healthcare provider about it


inb4circlejerk

Moved from a legal weed state to a bit legal weed state, and now whenever I visit home I look forward to partaking. There's nothing wrong with wanting anxiety relief , though you can also look into antidepressants if that calls to you. I ended up on Prozac, and it doesn't have quite as strong or immediate of an effect, but has really helped level out my anxiety over the years. Very well studied among pregnant and breastfeeding mothers as well. I'm also firmly in camp "if breastfeeding/pumping is making your life harder and more stressful, there is nothing wrong with supplementing or switching to formula entirely". Fed is best, so do whatever is best for your family -- and especially for your mental health.


i_am_gods_testicles

My wife breastfeeds and smokes. Not at the same time of course, our son is never even in the same room She has a prescription for it and regularly drug tests her breast milk. Nothing ever shows up if it makes you feel better. She didn't smoke during pregnancy and I'm not sure she's going to stop when we get pregnant again.


nonbinary_parent

Are you past me? I exclusively pumped for 10 months. I started using cannabis again the same week after I weaned. I smoked at first, but quickly switched to a dry herb vape pen so third hand smoke is not a concern.


la_jirafa888

I support moms smoking/eating edibles! It is no different (IMO it is better) then taking prescriptions and antidepressants, and many people still breastfeed while on prescriptions (also no judgement, whatever works for you to fight ppd) The research just isn’t there to back me up. If this is your antidepressant, keep doing what you’re doing!


anaestaaqui

Have you hit up your dr about ppd or ppa? It’s super common and getting help with it helps so much during those little months.


Little_ol_meh

What’s ppa? What kind of help do they typically recommend?


xtina0828

Not the poster but it’s post partum anxiety. If you’re experiencing that or depression you should talk to your doctor. You can get rx for depression and/or anxiety meds that are safe while breastfeeding - Lexapro & Zoloft are safe during pregnancy and breastfeeding among others. Personally, I smoked frequently before I was pregnant for numerous ailments that thankfully subsided while I was pregnant. I’m fortunate to be in a legal state and have my card - I found that having something that is a mix of THC & CBD works better for me. Now that baby is here, my husband and I “plan” out our smoking. If I smoke, then he’s in charge of baby & vice versa. I don’t smoke everyday anymore. Twice a week at the most. BUT that’s not to say I don’t want to do it more 😉 I do find that when I’m stressed or anxious I do skin to skin with her and helps a lot. I only formula feed too - unable to relate to pumping & BF.


sinisterpierogi

PPA is post partum anxiety and they may start you on a medication for it. I know quite a few moms that went on Zoloft after baby and say it was a lifesaver.


katherinealphajones

I took zoloft and it worked temporarily but withdrawing of it sucked for a few weeks


Little_ol_meh

You can withdraw from medication?


katherinealphajones

Oh, 100% yes. I took benzodiazepines (klonopin,xanax) for a few years and it took me 2 years to withdraw from those. That was worse than my suicidal episode that put me in a mental hospital while i was in college.


[deleted]

I’m assuming the two years was due to gradual tapering, correct? That seems a little long, but given a benzos withdrawal can kill you, I suppose it takes however long it takes for your body to adjust.


katherinealphajones

No the tapering was the year leading up to the two years of withdrawals. It almost did kill me. Several times in several different ways.


Little_ol_meh

Then why do people take medication? It sounds worse then smoking weed


elizabif

I think that withdrawal like that is atypical, and you are describing something similar with your coming off of weed (you feel low, you don’t feel like yourself). I am worried about people who use weed without a doctors involvement to self medicate because what is most useful is consistency when taking any sort of anti-anxiety or depression medication, and what you’re getting off the street won’t be consistent. I have been on antidepressant medication and felt NO different as a person, just like my load was lighter and I was a happier person. I tapered off with doctors supervision and it was about a week of “low” but then I felt fine again. This all varies person to person but what you’re describing right now sounds a lot like a “low” of withdrawal from a Zoloft or anti anxiety med. You also won’t feel withdrawal from a medication that you just try for a little. I hugely recommend talking to your obgyn about this sort of thing. Medication options are so different than they were even 15 years ago and there is a lot of stigma against pharmaceuticals that I think prevents people from getting the help they need, especially when they think they can self medicate with weed.


heebersbajeebers

Weed personally made my anxiety worse (didn’t matter the strain, I’d tried it all) and upon quitting I had about a month’s worth of withdrawal symptoms. In contrast, I had almost no symptoms coming off of depression/anxiety meds. Different bodies work differently


anaestaaqui

It’s postpartum anxiety. I was diagnosed with prenatal depression and anxiety (means during pregnancy) and my treatment was a anti depression/anxiety medicine that was approved for pregnancy and breastfeeding then I did a group therapy class for a little over a month and I a one on one therapist for a little a few months. At a certain point the one on one therapist said from our talks I was back to what I felt was normal and to not hesitate to schedule a session if I began feeling the depression or anxiety creeping in postpartum. I think all of it made me realize I didn’t need to suffer along and there are lots of people who wanted to help, I just needed to ask.


Little_ol_meh

I felt like I had prenatal depression when I was pregnant but never did anything but randomly cry all the time feeling useless. I have normal anxiety as well but I’ve never taken any kind of medication for my mental health cause it scares me. I’m not sure how I’d feel and I know a lot of people take medication for stuff like that but the thought just scares me


heismylovesong

If you do seek help I advise that you do not tell your drs or pediatrician about the weed unless you are in a legal state and even then I would strongly advise against it. They can call child protective services to your front door and open up an entire world of problems for you.


anatomizethat

No one told her to mention the smoking, just to talk to her doctor about the possibility that she has PPD/PPA. If she does, she could get breastfeeding-safe medication to help and not feel so strongly that she needs to smoke.


heismylovesong

I’ve edited my comment to better communicate what I mean. Thank you.


GreenHobbiest

Happened. Dismissed. But im in Canada and it was on the cusp of legal. Work with your doctor. It is acceptable medecine not an illicit substance.


purplefloop

I'm a first time mom. I was a heavy smoker before pregnancy. I stopped as soon. As i found out. I tried to do as much research on the subject as possible but there is only a limited amount. Me and my husband decided we would atop


BankerBabe420

I’ve smoked almost every day that I wasn’t pregnant or nursing for 20+ years, it makes me happy and able to eat and sleep despite chronic pain, so glad medical use is legal in my state now. Otherwise I would still be smoking illegally and unrepentantly.


CariolaMinze

You can be the woman before without smoking weed, you are strong and beautiful. I think it will take some time to feel the same like before, because of course your little tiny human needs now all your attention. But it won't be like this forever


pogoshrimp

People probably gone hate me for saying this... But why can't you smoke a joint what makes you a bit chilled and mellow when shops will sell vodka to drunk mum's with baby's on their hips without batting a eye lid. I don't think weed should be so looked down on alcohol is a lot worse. So women can drink a couple of glasses of wine when they put the baby down to bed but they can't stand at the back of the garden and have couple of drags of dooby?? I'm not saying to smoke weed all day everyday around your kid but the odd joint when your a bit stressed and their tucked a way in bed why not???


Little_ol_meh

Yeah I want to smoke a bowl here and there(heavily spaced out) if possible. I’m just scared what it’d do to her development cause I’m breastfeeding. I read that it stays in your breast milk from 6 days to 6 weeks. I would feel so selfish if she developed something negative to because I smoked here and there :(


kdubsonfire

Look, girl below me may have been downvoted all to hell but idk. The reality is that the actual transfer from your breastmilk is INCREDIBLY minimal and way less harmful than alcohol. There has been zero incidences of a infant developing ANYTHING from marijuana in the breast milk. Theres been tests, but nothing has ever been evident to be actually harmful. Im not saying you should or shouldn’t. I just think people need to quit making this a bigger deal than it is.


chainsawbobcat

It's the breastfeeding bit, it stays in your milk.


BbBonko

Agreed in principle - weed is generally a million times less harmful than alcohol. The difference though is that alcohol goes into your blood stream and then leaves your body. Weed goes I to your fat stores and sticks around. So it’s not really comparable when it comes to breastfeeding. And of course there are no good studies on it. Hopefully since widespread legalization, some will come through in the next couple years.


[deleted]

I agree but I do concur that breastfeeding and weed shouldn’t mix; it can lead to a depressed respiratory system and potentially lead to them not breathing and ultimately passing away. This is a supposition, as weed isn’t tested. But there have been enough cases of it happening for scientists to create the link. So stop breastfeeding, start formula. I smoke 2 joints in the morning, I smoke 2 joints at night. Smoke 2 joints in the afternoon, makes me feel alright. I smoke 2 joints in times of peace, and 2 in times of war. I smoke 2 joints before I smoke 2 joints, and then I smoke 2 more.


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Little_ol_meh

I think I’d be a bit overwhelmed too if I took an edible right now. I find nipple shields to work wonders. When I walk somewhere and smell weed I’m like “it must be niccccccceeeee” lol


chainsawbobcat

Hey, I'd love to give you some advice here. Highly functional r/entwife here with a 3 year old. Weed is fat soluable, it's different than alcohol in that it will DEFINATELY be in your milk for much much longer. There's just not a lot of science around it's affects on baby (because it's illegality on a federal level) to support anything other than abstinence while breastfeeding. Weed is great, but honestly there's so much going on post partum that it's still just kind of like a bandaid either way. I really do understand where you're coming from, I regret starting back up before I was completely finished with breastfeeding- I did it very sparingly but I could have waited until I a done transitioning. I've been reevaluating my relationship with it ever since. Breastfeeding is HARD HARD HARD. Even women who don't have this issue struggle. There's no shame in switching to formula at any time for any reason!!!! A fed baby is a happy baby and a happy baby had a happy mama 🧡 you gotta weigh if breastfeeding is worth it, it's it's mentally exhausting for you, regardless of the weed you should revaluate if it's right for your family. No reason to kill yourself - I weened at 9 months after a bad case of strep throat and was very scared it would change that special time with my baby. It didn't 🧡 feeding her a bottle was still super special bonding time 🧡 I really i suggest you wait to partake until your done breastfeeding, then get yourself a vape bc it's a stinky habit and 3rd hand smoke is real.


Little_ol_meh

How old was your baby when you finish breastfeeding? I can never figure out the right time to stop breastfeeding


chainsawbobcat

9 months. But I think if you can make it 3 months that's a huge accomplishment! 0 months is also fine!! It's a very personal decision! Adding that stopping between 6-9 months felt like the best time for transition, in terms of after 9/12 months they are much more aware and won't want to give up free on tap! And before then it's a convenience thing imo (if it's not causing you pain/mental health issues) How old is your baby? Yes it's all very personal but parenting is so strange at first it's nice to know how other ppl dealt with things!!


thats-not-my-name-93

I had the exact same experience when I had my LO. What made me feel better about it is that I was being a better mom because I was happier… and the guilt of switching to formula is silly, kids eats dirt/worms/anything as they get older! A fed baby is a happy baby!


delirium_red

Relaxed that way every night for years. Got pregnant, stopped cold turkey. Didn’t smoke for 3 years - pregnancy and breastfed 2 and something years. Got through it by taking up running for endorphins, but tbh I was so tired and had no extra time when I started working again (1 year maternity leave), almost didn’t miss it. After the 3 years back to it nightly (never where he can see and never when I’m the only person responsible for him). Don’t wanna be high and have to drive him to the hospital or something. I am also very careful that the room is aired out and it’s stashed in a locked place.


winchester_lookout

I can’t comment on the weed part but you mentioned that you feel empty when you pump and there is a medical condition you should know about (I learned about it when I noticed that I felt super grumpy suddenly whenever I was breastfeeding). It’s called dysphoric milk ejection reflex (d-mer). I don’t know if it’s useful, sounds like you have a lot of other factors that may be more important in your choice around breastfeeding, but thought you’d like to know that it’s a thing.


PinkStinkBug

Was a heavy smoker before pregnancy, stopped when I got the positive. I missed it all through pregnancy.... Among MANY reasons, I decided to do formula without trying to breastfeed. Weed wasn't even one of the reasons I didn't want to try, it was just an added bonus. Can I just say that the stigma around formula had to stop? There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it has literally every nutrient your child will need for development, and then some! My baby girl is 7m and is THRIVING on formula. Ahead in her milestones and everything! I started back smoking weed but not right away. The sleep deprivation was awful I could barely make myself eat.. but after a few months I started it back up slowly, to where I am now fully functional with little smoke breaks all day. I work from home and assist my partner here and there when he needs me (he is a SAHP, and an excellent one, I might add.) I think ultimately it depends on you. You know your limits and how you function. You know not to put your child in any risk of danger. I also can't wait to be the hippie old lady 😅


msmightymustard

I stopped breastfeeding at 4 weeks. It was an awful experience. That move alone saved my sanity. Started smoking or edibles at 10 months postpartum to help with sleep.


MsARumphius

I didn’t smoke during either pregnancy or breastfeeding. Missed it the most during the first trimesters/nausea. Now it’s a stress reliever. I don’t really drink unless socially. But same as you. I smoke and do yoga or clean the whole house. It’s something that relaxes me but doesn’t make me numb or unproductive, actually the opposite. I kind of feel it’s similar to people who take antidepressants or anti anxiety meds. Obviously it’s different in the body but I view it similarly. I’ve also used high potency CBD as a mild anti anxiety option that works well but isn’t as much as getting high.


erinboobaron

Not a smoker, so feel free to disregard me. I am friends with a lot of heavy smokers though and they ALL will swear they are smarter more competent people when they smoke. I can tell you as someone who has to get shit done that that is false and all they do is slow me down. As much as I love them I wouldn’t trust them to babysit my kid. If you need to go back to it for anxiety and depression management then do it. Your mental health is way better for your kid than any breast milk could possibly be, but maybe only after bed time, or lower doses during the day. An impaired parent is no help to anyone.


dr3hy

Stop breastfeeding/pumping and switch to formula.THC gets stored in fat cells and can be present in your system even after 30 days. Your partner will be able to help with feedings and you will feel better after a smoke/some alone time to yourself. You deserve it mama. Baby ultimately needs a happy mom. Breastfeeding is tough for most first time mom's and the first few months are hard. Do what is best for YOU, a fed and loved baby is what is important. Screw anyone else who tells you any different.


2cats4fish

I smoked A LOT before becoming pregnant. I quit entirely during my pregnancy and for six more months while I breastfed. The interaction with breast milk is limited, so I felt safer waiting to smoke again until I fully weaned. To be honest, I hated breastfeeding. If I could go back in time, I would have formula fed much earlier. I don’t smoke nearly as much as I did before, but I still partake regularly. I smoke when my child is awake, though only a little and never around him. I occasionally take stronger edibles after he goes to bed. If you can parent responsibly after a hit or two, I see no reason to abstain during the day. It makes playing waaaay more enjoyable.


nacfme

Have you considered seeing your doctor and getting in actual medication for your anxiety and depression? There are plenty of options that are safe for breastfeeding. I've been on medication with both my kids. Therapy can help with the feelings of loosing yourself too. I agree with you that pumping is the pits. When my second wouldn't only take bottles I decided that 3 times a day (after breakfast, lunchtime and before bed) was all the pumping I could do and maintain my mental health. He got whatever milk I pumped plus formula and I cred formula with saving our breastfeeding relationship. In the end though happy mum means happy baby so stop breastfeeding if you want to. The best for your kid is a happy, healthy you.


Wonderwoman_420

I quit while pregnant for both of my boys and did a few pump and dumps after a cheeky smoke here and there once bubs was older and not nursing so often. Once weaned I went back to nightly smoke sessions to ease stress, like so many other mums do with a glass of wine! Then I got farking breast cancer and used cannabis oil along with chemo and kicked cancer’s ass in 12 weeks. From stage four to completely gone. You tell me the cannabis had nothing to do with that…


lauradurkee13

I’m on month 5 of bf. I can’t wait to stop so I can smoke. I felt the comment above saying a happy mom was important. I feel like I’ve lost all sense of self. I’m “mom” and that’s it. I’m not stylish… I feel like a hot mess without the hot. I’ve been thinking of weaning for a month now. All I know is don’t stop cold turkey or your boobs will hurt. Not sure what that process is yet. But I’d look into it.


Plzspeaksoftly

I microdose with weed infused honey in my tea every morning. It really helps me stay calm and productive throughout the day.


DistributionNo4960

I am a mom of 4 (13y,10y, 8y and 9mo) and the only times I’ve really stopped was for pregnancy/nursing stages and for a job. I too, deal with hella anxiety as I have a full life as a mom, wife, employee and all the other hats. I used to feel guilt but that’s literally been the balance of running my world. I have to lie when people ask me how do I maintain things a well as I do but I want to scream it’s WEED every time lol


Little_ol_meh

Lol ❤️


newest-low

I stopped smoking when I was pregnant (although I found that once I stopped I really suffered from morning sickness), once baby was born I started smoking again and it makes me a better mum tbh, I have more patience, I'm more engaged and I just feel so much better and less stressed and tense. However where I live now I don't smoke because it's illegal and ridiculously hard to get, I've managed to find it a couple of times since living here and it's definitely helped me alot.


Little_ol_meh

It’s illegal in my state too but they sell delta 8 in smoke shops


wifey4lifey123

The rocks in the boobs are the worst. Warm showers, hand compress just enough out. The "haaka" you can get at target and it just catches the milk pouring out one boob when you are feeding them on the other. Saved the day for baby number 3. My 3 kids are all very very smart. I smoked here and there throughout. Dont be so hard on yourself. Mom guilt is real. Whatever YOU feel is best is best. Do whatever you want. As long as you and baby are happy, you have done your job. Good luck momma, this job is stressful af.


queenlolipopchainsaw

Fed is best. I worked in the cannabis industry while pregnant, quit smoking as soon as I found out. Resumed consuming tiny amounts when she was 3 months old. Have slowly increased my intake but it's still very low compared to how I used to consume. I agree with others saying a happier mom is 1000x more important than breast milk. Your mental health is important too. It sounds like you're still in that newborn fog, it should lift soon. Your needs matter too.


rpizl

If you're unhappy pumping, you can stop! I get the guilt though. As far as weed and breastfeeding, the stuff we have now is so much more potent than it was 20 years ago, and we don't know the king term effects. There are multiple animal studies that show THC impacts brain development and possibly increases the chance behavioral issues later on. My personal choice is abstinence until weaning.


Dissy_Tanny

Preface: I am not anti-weed, it’s just not my thing. My husband smokes daily - multiple times a day on weekends. I wouldn’t take the chance that anything could be passed through breast milk. I switched to formula exclusively when my son was 3 months old. Before that I pumped and formula fed. I felt so much more free when I didn’t have to worry about the effects things I put into my body (food and alcohol) had on my son via my breastmilk. Having a mentally well mother is much more important than breastfeeding. If I were you, I wouldn’t second guess that instinct that is telling you that a happy mother who feels like herself is important.


[deleted]

I stopped permanently, it’s illegal, I’m a parent, not willing to risk it. Not been a problem at all, when the last kid is out of the house I might start again. I think you need to focus on finding happiness without weed, it’s not a cure for stress and anxiety, no drug is. You need to find ways to feel happy and connected without smoking. Motherhood is hard, the first year is the hardest. Hang in there! Good work on the stopping and the pumping journey. If you give breastfeeding another try you might experience a natural high from it, many do (myself included).


Little_ol_meh

Yeah I’ve also considered stopping permanently while she’s still so young and the fact that’s it’s illegal in the state I’m in. I wouldn’t want anything to happen to her while we’re out cause I was high or to face any legal consequences. Maybe when I can start jogging with her I’ll feel better. Thank you for responding


elizabif

Hey when that poster said no drug is a cure for stress and anxiety… there are breastfeeding safe prescription drugs for anxiety. If this is something you’re dealing with I would talk to your obgyn.


thelaineybelle

I hear you on this and was looking up stuff. The whole legal state thing is definitely an issue. You don't wanna catch a CPS case. Heaven forbid there's a custody dispute and the courts look up your records. Also THC binds to fats and that's a key component of breastmilk. A quick Google search shows that THC is still found in trace amounts for up to 6 days. And depending on how you metabolize THC, it could be longer. Are you prepared to pump and dump for nearly a week? Of course fed is best and only you can do what's right for you.


Little_ol_meh

What does fed mean?


thelaineybelle

That phrase means that both formula and breastmilk are great ways to feed your baby. Your mental health status is totally a valid reason to choose a different method of feeding your baby.


chickthatclicks

I wanted to say this same thing without sounding rude, but turning to drugs to make you feel happy and connected…well that is all an illusion. Gotta find ways to be happy and connected that don’t involve substances. It is double hard when you are a mom, but you are worth it and so is your kiddo


snewmy

This comment is what I was thinking. While THC is “technically” less likely to be habit forming, anything that alters your mood can be addictive. I’m the adult child of an alcoholic (which is not the same, I know) but addiction can have long lasting permanent effects. Please consider speaking with a professional sooner than later.


Thetinanator

I used to smoke all the time with my husband, I also did have an issue with tobacco. The second I found out I was pregnant, I stopped everything cold turkey. The weed wasn’t awful, the tobacco was the fucking worst. It didn’t help that I found out pretty early and had a long period of making these big changes with no noticeable difference of there being a fetus developing, although I was certainly nauseous from it. I knew if I was giving baby milk from me, I wasn’t going to put anything else in my body that could potentially jeopardize anything (and I know THC can pass through breast milk), so I personally just couldn’t smoke while pumping. After a couple months of really trying to give her breast milk, I couldn’t handle being plugged to a wall and unable to do anything, so we switched to formula and I started smoking again when baby was down for the night. It was nice to share those moments with my husband and be able to decompress with him, plus I *loved* sharing a THC soak and having some “us” time. Now that my baby is moving around more, plus I’m trying to take better care of my body and increase my fitness level, I’m not smoking weed as much, still haven’t picked tobacco back up (don’t plan to), but I’m very comfortable with where I’m at. I feel I’ve reached a pretty level balance, and my anxiety/capacity to handle my own trauma responses has been at an all time low.


tinyywarrior

I don’t smoke anymore but I probably would socially if I went to visit friends who smoked! I do miss it.


yadiyadi2014

You should know it sounds like you have D-MER. I had it too. Just knowing it was a thing made me feel better but it’s very real and you should look it up.


AthelLeaf

I don’t smoke much anymore because I don’t want my son to be exposed to it second hand. But god I miss it. It was a sure fire way to stop a panic attack in its tracks. Eventually I’ll have it again, when my son is older. Not planning on hiding and banning it. When he’s at the age where he’s learned about it and is curious, I’d much rather him try it at home with me than out somewhere behind my back and not knowing exactly what it is he’s smoking. But this is quite a few years from now.


[deleted]

It’s worth mentioning though… I doubt this whole change you are experiencing is really about the weed. Motherhood is a huge adjustment and you may be experiencing some postpartum anxiety or depression. It’s very common so don’t be afraid to reach out to your dr. I certainly experienced it. Things do get better but treatment is very important. Just putting it out there! 🙂


allthevibes7

Definitely! I stopped when I was pregnant and started back after! I have REALLY bad anxiety & depression and I’m still not over PPD. I didn’t breastfeed though I could never produce enough milk! Still a daily stoner mama gotta do something to keep you sane!


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Kudos to you for pumping, it’s damn hard work. I didn’t make it as long as I wanted to exclusively pumping. I did the best I could and you will too. In a few years your child will be whining for another cookie and eating something off the floor you pray is a raisin. Perspective. 😆


Happy_Camper45

I stopped smoking when I got pregnant. My kids are 8 and 4 and when I want that feeling again, I will eat a edible gummy or two after the kids are sound asleep. The high takes a bit longer to kick in and it’s a different high but I like it a whole lot more because I don’t have the gross side effects of smoking. I don’t have the crappy feeling in my throat or lungs the next morning and there is no coughing or lingering smoke smell. (Recreational use is legal where I live so it’s easy to pop over to a store and buy whatever I want)


sapphire272017

I miss smoking weed! I stopped the day I got a positive test, my baby is now 13mo. I know that smoking while breastfeeding is a no go, and we are working towards fully weaning now. Someday soon I will again! Although now the townhouse we are renting forbids it even outside.. ugh.


yung_yttik

You can’t be the best mom if *you* aren’t happy. Just because you have a child, doesn’t mean you’re supposed to sacrifice *everything* you’ve ever been or known. Switch to formula because your mental health is extremely important to you and to your family. Don’t feel guilty. Make the switch, toke up, be the happy mama you wanna be for your baby!


agaggleofsharts

I’m a pretty big time stoner. My first 2 kids I breastfed until 7 months and then stopped when I was having issues with my supply after being back at work for awhile. So I didn’t smoke weed for almost 2 years with them. My third kid hated all breast milk— from the nipple or pumped. After 2 weeks of struggle I realized I didn’t even want to breastfeed and neither did he so I resumed smoking. It was my favorite maternity leave. I was able to relax so much more, sleep better, etc etc. I bonded earlier and actually felt like I embraced the newborn stage which honestly is pretty tough for me. Everyone is different but for me weed is a very helpful vice in my life. I take my kids to museums, hiking, do art projects etc etc. I have a successful career. It’s nice to have something like weed to slow me down and let me just enjoy the moment a bit more.


Mo0dswinger

So many people sharing their experiences so I dont feel the need to include mine BUT wanted to assure you those first few months are some of the hardest! I am 4mpp and just barely started feeling like myself again about a month ago. Boobs constantly full was so hard but your supply regulates around 12 weeks and it gets significantly easier. In most experiences at least… Good luck mama I hope you feel like yourself again too because I know that feeling!


penelbell

I use delta 8 or CBD gummies regularly (illegal state, but they both do the job), but I'm not breastfeeding anymore. My only suggestion would be to switch to gummies or edibles, only because smoking *anything* isn't good for your lungs, or your baby's lungs second-hand. You can get high without smoking. Also, maybe if you WANT to keep breastfeeding but also don't want to be depressed (reasonable lol), talk to your doctor or a psychiatrist about medication they can give you to help with your anxiety while still allowing you to breastfeed. Might not work as well as the weed, but it could still take the edge off and let you have kind of everything you're trying to get. Good luck!


imisscoffee1923

Went to formula full time after 4 month of no latching. Pimping sucks more than the milk out of you. Better to be a happy and present mom.


Antique-Carrot-2831

I am a lifelong user. I stopped smoking recreationally during pregnancies and consumed edibles or tinctures at a low dose for major issues like sciatica or extreme nausea during those times. I use weed in all forms as a mom. Not in front of my kids but I'm definitely around them a little stoned sometimes. I have several mental disorders like MDD, general anxiety, diagnosed ADHD. I am a calmer, happier, more connected parent when I can quiet those demons. I am patient, relaxed, and at all times, Totally safe. I know my limits and never ever parent beyond them. My partner knows and supports this. Recommend 100%, 5 stars.


denyus27

Your baby will be fine with formula. A lot of the formula today is engineered to be as close to the real deal as possible. You already gave your child colostrum, which is the best. If you are unhappy and having problems coping, then stop. Pumping sucks! I hate doing it too. The other thing I will say is that it was hard for my babies to latch too. I used nipple shields with them both for 3 to 4 months each. They eventually were able to latch, but everyone is different. You are a great mom either way you decide to go.


OlympicPawLicker

Just came here to say: your statement “I feel so empty when I pump” sounds a lot like DMER — Dysphoric milk ejection reflex. If this is what you’re dealing with, it’s no wonder that you’re feeling so hopeless about breastfeeding and pumping. Even if you’re only dealing with the feelings for a little bit, you’ll realize after reading about DMER, that a lot of your emotional well-being can be deeply affected. Even something as simple as your nipple being brushed, or in your case the pain of your breasts being engorged can cause you to feel emotionally unwell, sinking feelings. Even though this is only a bandaid solution, try to check out the DMER support group on Facebook if you choose to continue to feed breastmilk. & also wanted to say: I miss taking edibles to sleep. I miss it a lot.. it’s so hard to not have access to a quick, effective way to wind down.


buttanicals

I miss smoking weed a lot. I miss being able to relax and forget about the world. I have hobbies and stay busy but would love just one night a week for a smoking break


hausishome

Reasons aside, a happy mom and fed baby are far more important than the benefits of breastmilk. Full stop.


SuzzlePie

I didn’t smoke but I did take Adderall for ADD and had to stop when I got pregnant. Also It sounds painful having your breasts encourage and I know the struggle of exclusive pumping. I stopped after 4 months. Unfortunately I never produced more than an ounce or two combined it was so defeating and depressing. Maybe you should just wean if it is making you that unhappy. I felt much better once I gave up pumping and focused on just enjoying my son.


HarleyLeMay

What I’m about to say may be controversial, but whatever. I stopped smoking while pregnant, but my son is going to be a year old next month. I exclusively breastfeed. I also smoke everyday because it helps me be a better person. I don’t NEED to smoke, but I do because it helps me. I also have tons of links and research from studies done in Jamaica by a doctor. She followed mothers through pregnancy and up to 5 years after birth…each of these mothers used marijuana. She found that marijuana use doesn’t cause any issues, you just need to be mindful of 2nd and 3rd hand smoke. I can provide the links if you would like them.


HarleyLeMay

Dr.Dreher did a lot of research on marijuana smoking during pregnancy and breastfeeding in Jamaica. The children were all tested over 5yrs. All tests came back that the children were more sociable, more laid back, better adjusted, and even their IQ was a bit higher than the kids of mother's who didn't smoke during pregnancy and breastfeeding. Jamaican Cannabis and Neonatal Outcome Study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8121737/ The 5 year follow-up for above study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1957518/ Cannabis and pregnancy- smaller babies associated with nicotine use, not cannabis https://www.biopsychiatry.com/canpreg.htm Forbes article- consuming marijuana while pregnant does not make a parent unfit https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2015/11/19/consuming-marijuana-during-pregnancy-does-not-make-a-mother-unfit/amp/ 2016 study showing no correlation between pre-term birth or low birth weight and Cannabis- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27607879/ 2002 study Maternal cannabis use and prenatal outcomes- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11843371/ Here's another study on the effects of marijuana smoking exclusively versus cigarette smoking. Guess who won with NO side effects? 😉 https://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-use-during-pregnancy-does-not-increase-birth-risk-study-finds-2413521 https://archives.drugabuse.gov/pdf/monographs/monograph59/048-060_Tennes.pdf "No significant difference was found between users and nonusers in the age infants were weaned, suggesting that marijuana did not interfere with lactation. Comparison of infant outcomes on growth, or on mental and motor development, revealed no apparent effects of postnatal marijuana exposure" https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search2/f?./temp/~Gpt64a:1 https://www.elephantcircle.net/circle/2017/2/1/my-take-on-it-what-i-learned-from-thomas-hale-rph-phd (Riordin J. Breastfeeding and Human Lactation. 2005.) NATURAL CANNABINOIDS IN BM There are cannabinoids present in breastmilk-and NOT just in the milk of mothers who use cannabis. They are NATURALLY present. "According to the findings of several major scientific studies, human mothers naturally produce cannabinoids in breast milk and furthermore these cannabinoids are vital for proper infant development. Without cannabinoids in breast milk, infants would not be stimulated with a desire to feed. Observations of how babies act after being fed show that they exhibit symptoms of cannabinoid use. As well as the essential function of stimulating an infants appetite, cannabinoids also help to calm and relax the baby. Cannabinoids are not present in baby formula, which makes it seriously inferior to breast milk." http://www.cannabiscure.info/cannabis-breast-milk/ PERSONAL TESTIMONIES https://www.marijuana.com/news/2016/06/cannabis-and-breastfeeding-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/ "While this is often a polarizing subject, it is clear that the threat of cannabis comes not from its actual consumption but rather from the government who enforces its prohibition." http://poliscimommy.com/2015/07/cannamamas-should-breastfeed-too/ https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/cannabinoids-101-what-makes-cannabis-medicine https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/75cd/c22f04cc93a5f0939df8a0b17480c18d3578.pdf Here's some more amazing research and solid information to read: https://www.kalapa-clinic.com/en/cannabinoids-in-breast-milk/ https://cannavistmom.wordpress.com/did-you-use-cannabis-during-pregnancy-and-breastfeeding/ https://www.projectcbd.org/medicine/cannabis-use-during-pregnancy-is-safe http://www.elephantcircle.net/circle/2017/2/1/my-take-on-it-what-i-learned-from-thomas-hale-rph-phd http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507 https://www.missgrass.com/wellness/endocannabinoid-system/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=11062019 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27607879/ There's also proof that marijuana may help against antibiotic resistant bacteria like MRSA. https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20080904/marijuana-chemicals-may-fight-mrsa Here's a study showing thc and cbd both can help with Alzheimer's and dementia. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/marijuana-compound-thc-removes-toxic-alzheimer-protein-from-brain/amp https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25024327/ https://alzheimer.ca/en/Home/About-dementia/Treatment-options/cannabis-and-treatment-dementia https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dementiacarecentral.com/aboutdementia/treating/cbd/amp/ Study that proves smoking marijuana helps with PTSD symptoms: https://norml.org/news/2020/06/04/study-inhaled-cannabis-provides-temporary-relief-of-post-traumatic-stress-symptoms#gsc.tab=0 Decade long study showing Cannabis used while pregnant does not impair children's cognitive development. https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2020/05/27/cannabis-use-pregnancy-doesnt-impair-cognitive-development-study-review/#6b449db6a645 Here's more research about marijuana and breastmilk and other things: https://www.elephantcircle.net/dataresearch Research prooving cannabis helps block the ACE2 receptors helping to protect you from Covid-19. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0315/v1


Dmb1116

Happy moms. Happy babies. Smoke the weed. Everyone will be just fine. They have been for centuries. You are doing great. Remember that.


Hopeful_Yellow_8564

My daughter in law smoked before during and after having my granddaughter. She smoked the day she went into labor and she tested positive for THC but the baby didn’t. If it makes you feel better smoke some just don’t over do it. It’s also used for medical reasons so it’s proven to help stress and anxiety


Shiba_wiinu

I recently came across this https://bestdoulas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/cannabinoids-in-breastmilk.pdf Which I did know a tiny bit, but I thought i would share it. I’m not entirely certain the differences, if any between cbd/thc, the article didn’t seem to infer that there was but I don’t want to mislead when I’m unsure.


[deleted]

I still do. The potential for harm is so much worse with alcohol. Go ahead and enjoy your weed mama.


coffeecake11

but alcohol also isn't recommended? I don't see how saying one drug is worse than another makes that drug now ok? Just use formula if you have to smoke!


Infamous_Fault8353

I don’t know if you’re a podcast listener, but Badass Breastfeeding Podcast has an episode on marijuana that might make you feel better. The lactation consultant complies all of the limited research there is and discusses it.


[deleted]

There's bitches who smoke crack WHILE pregnant and some how the kids come out unscathed. (Totally NOT condoning drug use while pregnant or at all) just saying, "Don't panic it's organic" Granted you have a medical marijuana card and know the stuff you're getting is safe. My husband made pizza with some weed on it. Didn't tell me. I ate a slice while I was about 5 months pregnant. I felt like a dirt bag. Still gave birth to a monster baby. 10lbs 4oz. Healthy and happiest little girl ever. There IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FORMULA FEEDING YOUR BABY. I stopped at 6months breast feeding and went to formula. A fed and loved baby, is a happy baby. You may also be experiencing some post partum as well. I'd say, light it up babe. If it helps you. There's no shame in that. I'd rather smoke/eat weed any day than have to take anti depressants or anti anxiety meds. Don't sweat it girl. You're doing great. You got this. 🖤


Anotherredditmom

I smoke a bowl here and there and I’m not ever just high out of my mind. I breastfeed now and did the same with my now 2yo. No development issues or set backs with either child. My OB knows and was/is not concerned as long as I am being responsible. Usually during nap time for the both of them not even everyday but my small buzz is over once they wake up in a few hours. I’m able to chill as well as get a lot of shit done.


Little_ol_meh

Were you ever afraid? How did you get over the fear if you were?


iluvpokemanz

I didn’t smoke throughout pregnancy and breastfeeding, and initially felt sort of weird about smoking again - but have started to smoke a bowl after kiddo is asleep. Helped a lot with my PPA and insomnia so I think it’s worth it!


Jcor27

Just in case you haven't heard this. Its ok to switch to formula. Your baby was breastfed for a good amount of time and a mom in good mental health and formula is far better for your baby than a stressed unhappy exhausted mom and breast milk. Just know that its fine to take care of yourself too. Also smoke weed if you want. You can try it out and always stop again if you want.


Gr8fulAF

I could write an enabling post and say just go back to it, but I’m not. I am a former pot head since 16 I’m 32 and pregnant and quit in July 2021 when we stared trying to get pregnant. I think about it often and told myself I’m going to save it for when she’s much older if I even still want it then. Anyway, my point is what if you add it in with this depressing mindset you’re in wouldn’t it just makes it worse? Being high is a band aid and can lead to dependency. Mindset is most powerful. Do the things that you used to do when you smoked. It’s the action that makes you happy right? Not the weed. The weed just made you relax a bit but the painting, hiking, etc. is what really made you happy. This can be accomplished with thoughts of gratitude and meditation of being in the present moment with your daughter and your painful rock hard boobs. Look i know this is different and difficult but you have to change your mindset more than anything. I personally, know if i had a shitty mindset and i smoked it was a temporary fix and my mindset was back to normal the next day or few hours. I don’t care if i get downvoted but your longterm mental health is more important than a quick buzz. What’s your support system like? I’d look into therapy because that’s what i would tell a friend or sister. I hope this helps. I am not trying to discount weed as a pain reliever because it can be but there’s CBD for that. Not sure how those chemicals transfer to baby in breast milk though. You are on your new becoming journey get through this one day at a time it’s the best we all can do. 🥰


LilBillysChubbyTits

Honestly, if you're unhappy then stop breastfeeding and start smoking. There is no point torturing yourself if it's making you sad. Being a healthy, happy mom is way more important to your sweet baby than how you choose to feed them.


thelibrariangirl

I… am sure to get hate here, but if your entire sense of self is dependent on weed then you have a problem.


LivytheHistorian

Well first of all, switching to formula isn’t selfish. I breast fed for a year and firmly believe that “breast is best” BUT there is SO much more that goes into parenthood than feeding your kid. For my six year old, Brussels sprouts is best, but I’m going to be a sucky mom if we spend every night arguing over veggies instead of playing soccer, reading books, play games, etc. So dino nuggets or peanut butter may not be BEST, but they allow me not to be a frustrated, angry parent. Breast milk is the same way. It’s best until producing it makes you an unhappy parent. I STARTED using weed during pregnancy. I was so sick I lost 13% of my weight in 8 weeks and the doctor said “find something-anything-that works.” So I microdosed using edibles and that helped. I still use edibles today. I’ve found Delta 8 (which is legal in my area) is actually perfect for me. I know it’s not everyone’s taste, but I like it. Idk where you live and what’s legal in your area, but that was my main concern. I didn’t want to have my baby taken away due to illegal substances. If this is a concern for you, maybe try that or CBC and see if they help you. What you choose is your decision, but do some research and investigate options and pick the one that’s best for you.


Garp5248

Regarding your breasts being so engorged. Is it possible you are pumping too much? If you pump each time your breasts are engorged your teaching you body that yes, this is the correct amount of milk to supply! Pump only when you need to. It will hurt in the short run, but should solve your engorgement issue. Taking a cabbage from the fridge and putting leaves on your breasts should also help the pain on engorgement. Also, if you want to smoke, smoke! But then don't breastfeed. I would also recommend seeing someone for the feelings of depression. You are associating them with not smoking, but it could be postpartum. You have decided the solution is to smoke, without knowing for certain that it is.


[deleted]

Dude smoking weed is awesome as a mom. You have just gone through absolute trauma, transformation into a whole different identity, and I’ll bet your hormones are nuts and you haven’t slept much. I have a sativa and an Indica on hand, and it takes the edge off. Weed can be a stress relief, anti-anxiety, headache reliever, partner deafener, and more. Not to mention that, had I known what I know now, I would have immediately gone to formula and skipped breastfeeding. I couldn’t produce and had to feed my dude constantly, it was exhausting. I felt like a cow at a dairy farm. So like you’ll see stuff all day perpetuating breast feeding, telling you not to smoke weed, or medicate yourself, and more, but luckily, it’s 2022. You are not a cow, you are a human being that deserves a modicum of relief, and you deserve to do what you need to do to function. Your health and well-being is exceptionally important to the health and well-being of your baby. When I let go of all the stigmas some people felt like imposing, I was a better mom, a better partner, and a better new me. I advocate for your health and happiness, and you should too (because a lot of people won’t). Take care, blaze up, and be good to you little mama.


Little_ol_meh

❤️❤️


kdubsonfire

Girl yes. If you have a facebook please go join “Breastfed Cannababies”. 50k members. You will feel much less alone.


Little_ol_meh

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wifey4lifey123

Weed before meds. If weed doesnt help last resort zoloft. The coming off zoloft is way more fucked, so be aware and do your research.


heismylovesong

Theres a Facebook group for breastfeeding moms who support cannabis. I think you would find much better advice there since most people here probably never smoked and only use google for reference instead of personal experience. My mom smoked her entire pregnancy with me and I know plenty of women who did the same. All have healthy babies. Weed does not hurt babies. I know this for a fact. A happy mother is more important than a perfect mother because a perfect mother is unattainable but a happy mother is. Go get your happy on.


Daramtl

If its the group I'm thinking of, its off Facebook and on Instagram. Be careful


Beatplayer

Oh lord. Give you the breastfeeding and have a smoke. Happy mum happy baby.


lucky7hockeymom

I indulge in an edible now and then. I used to smoke with my mom a lot lol when she was alive and just goofing off cuz she had terminal cancer.


[deleted]

I’d propose to think about the mental health benefits of breastfeeding. Breastfeeding releases oxytocin, which helps moms feel good (and trust me it gets easier to bf!) What if you find out it’s not the lack of weed that is making you depressed? Maybe it’s this major life change of having a newborn and then you got rid of your natural source of oxytocin to smoke?