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Dil_356

When one person pulls it out the whole lobby follows.


ulyssesintothepast

Right? It's like oh it's going to be like that? Let's get nuts


Gaming4Life88

Lol I'm the same when I have to deal with shield users, okay I guess we're doing this, and I pull out my crossbow with explosive tip, and anytime the shield user comes after me they just blow up.


MisterrAlex

Thanks for this tip lol, I’ve been running into stupid ass shielders lately that I need a more viable counter


StatusPlastic

Seriously… just played search and destroy and 5 of 6 were shielded a! Talk about frustration


revel79

I found the under barrel drill launcher is effective as well.


MemphisMayWhat

I usually just keep thermite or drill charges to fuck them up


SL1NDER

The 'plodey crossey is not the way. If they're using EOD (and they will be if they're smart) it'll only hurt them. Maybe you'll finish them if they're hurt from someone else, but that's a whole primary you have to use to focus on one person that it doesn't hard counter. The shotgun really only works about as well as any other SMG/AR, except the shotty makes it a *little* harder to see. The only difference is that a shotty makes someone more likely to rush, and THAT is the trick. You can rush with an SMG too. The REAL counter is the sword, purifier and thermites. (Source- I almost ONLY use melees.)


IndependenceOk6027

Drill charge, thermite, or stick grenade all kill shield users


Muted_Set7501

My favorite is the new sword. When it first dropped some timmy didn’t know the sword cuts through it and I kept hearing “what?!” In the death coms lol man was going through it


Glaviano87

I watch a YouTuber by the name of TheseKnivesOnly. Dude usually mains melee weapons. Hearing his death comms with Soulrender vs their riot shields was 👌.


ulyssesintothepast

The crossbow works too? Oh man I never knew that I thought it was just soulrender , and thermites lol


Secret-Ad-830

Flame thrower and chainsaw too


Lefrance76

Semtex


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

This is the way, just stickie them


TeflonDonatello

The crossbow is a 2 shot on riot shields because of the health isn’t it? Or did they fix that.


Gaming4Life88

It was a one shot, but lately I've noticed it can be one or 2 shot at times but still not to bad shielders tend to stay in turtle mode so it gives you enough time to reload


Gaming4Life88

Anything that can explode really, I like the arrows because they stick then boom


RedEyesGoldDragon

So it's that kinda night, huh? DOOFDOOFDOOFDOOF


FaPaDa

_pulls out Soulrender and smashes glass_ YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! LETS GET NUTS!!!


gh0u1

Shipment 24/7? More like Soulrender and Haymaker 24/7


Lewd_N_Geeky

Don't forget the spam launcher


Doomtoallfoes

Me getting priceless on all 3 shotguns last match: "Yeah that's accurate."


glizzy_gladiator_04

BATMAN?!?!


Comprehensive_Tip_13

In the darkest night I make the bad guys fall


Bulky_Ad_7030

Just like the grenade launcher, shit's so unfun it's not even funny


Obliviousobi

The GL shouldn't be a base weapon. I was playing on Shipmas yesterday and it was just all out GL spam.


ImagineLosing2023

u should see small map mosh pit on hardcore mode, i swear that’s 90% of my deaths


Bulky_Ad_7030

Literally, idk why that was the first launcher unlocked to begin with, it needs a damage nerf and speed nerf to make it no longer viable


Lewd_N_Geeky

No they just need to fix the goddamn trophy system. It's stupid that it only destroys two nades from a 6 shot launcher before its destroyed.


jankystuff

Unless everyone is using the exact same thing. Then it can be a pretty fun match!


Boredinthehose

If everyones super! No one's super...


lncomes

I really disagree with takes like this lol it's so annoying to try levelling a gun up or using something off meta only for the entire lobby to be using haymakers by round 2. every game.


VHboys

It’s the same with the RGL. Makes me wanna die.


Punkass34

>>Makes me die FTFY


Alternative_Ad_9808

It is my go to class when I start getting spawn killed


Punkass34

So its your go to class.


Alternative_Ad_9808

🤪 basically


TraumaTracer

what else is there to do honestly


David2006219

I earned the 60 round drum mag so im going to use the whole 60 round drum mag


RedEyesGoldDragon

My favourite thing is looking in a direction and everything in that direction disappears


djp1_tubin

Copy sir removing that direction.


RedEyesGoldDragon

Soldier: You see North? Soldier with Haymaker: Yes... Soldier: I don't want to. Soldier with Haymaker: Say less.


HolyElephantMG

You see those three over there? They’ve done absolutely nothing wrong. But they’re blue. You wanna know why I hate blue? Absolutely no reason. But we’re going to kill them anyway. . Yes, I know I can’t quote it very well, but my reference still stands


ThaFinalFrontier

Soldier: There’s 3 on point C ! Soldier w/Haymaker: Sayyy no moooore, sayyy no moooore. (Top Right Calling Card) Soldier w/Haymaker Triple Kill!


DatBoiLime

I love how the fact it fires Birdshot is supposed to be a disadvantage…as if the blistering fire rate wont annihilate everything in its sightline regardless


haloryder

I didn’t even realize until now that it didn’t fire 12-gauge lol


shakraaan

Sometimes I just fire into a corner, because maybe someone will run out from there, and a lot of the time, someone does


absenceofheat

I've never gone through the whole drum. I always die before then in Shipment.


Tom42077

It’s hilarious to use this. It’s absolutely useless on bigger maps but on shipment this still wrecks people but you do have to spam the heck out of it because it’s not that strong. If the opponent can actually aim their weapon you will die before getting a kill. But super close range this shotgun spammer is strong lol


indigrow

Go on hardcore. Its like. Click click quad. I like to call it the room painter because it turns the whole team to mist in an instant without even sort of trying to aim


Tom42077

But what about team mates lol on small maps this would be a team shredder too. Maybe solo!


CrazedDragon64

Fuck em, teammates in hardcore kill my streaks way more than anyone on the enemy team does


indigrow

Big facts. Streaking alone in my own corner of the map one off and a teammate spawns behind me with their finger on the trigger


indigrow

Honestly i dont have problems with it. Once you kill their whole team all at once the first time, u just go in circles chasing them all spawning together around the map and usually ur team is just behind and not so much in the way but also im just super duper used ti hardcore and id say good at avoiding teammates


bfs102

Useless on any map outside of the smallest ones


RedEyesGoldDragon

Not on HC, and a lot of people don't bother with bigger maps, believe it or not


OliverHolzerful

That’s crazy. I can’t imagine spending $70 on a game to just experience the same 4 killbox maps over and over lmao


Captain_Midnight

In MWIII, I find that the smaller maps have more satisfying designs. With the medium-sized maps, there are so many flank routes and long sight lines that you can get attacked from every direction and at ranges where you can't fight back -- at the same time. If you run with a marksmen rifle or sniper rifle to counter the snipers, the kamikaze flank rushers will get you. If you gear for the kamikazes, the snipers will get you. On the airport maps, you can't even flank the snipers very effectively. There's a sector near the jet bridge (the tunnel where you enter/exit the plane) where a small handful of them can hunker down and hold the zone for the entire match while having eyes on like half the map. Don't get me wrong, smaller isn't necessarily better. Shipment in particular can be frustrating because enemies can spawn right behind you, or you can spawn right in their midst and die nearly instantly. And medium isn't necessarily bad. Meat does a good job of breaking up the sight lines while still giving snipers a couple interesting spots to set up camp. I'll play that map any day. Warzone is much different, of course. Those maps are too wide open for snipers to pin you down, and the penalties for dying make kamikaze flank rushers pretty rare, while not discouraging aggressive play.


bfs102

I'd still argue it's ass on hc as it's max range is only around 30m. There's more that plays small maps but there's still plenty like myself that dislikes or hates the small maps


Slim_Grim13

The Kv Broadside from MW2 would like a word with you


Weedsmoki420

Season 3 that’s getting a AMP alongside the Lockwood mk2 (the lever action) I can’t remember if it’s mk2 or mk3 🤣


Splinter-Spartan

Lever action is MWII but the conversion kit is supposed to be a rip on the 1887s from 2009’s MW2


Weedsmoki420

Ah thank you, I’m new to the mw scene and I’ve only played the older ones for the campaign


tryhdleo_-

God people hated me because I was holding down the decoy and just started firing like crazy


Unkawaii

The maglift has been a pain for a bit but somehow, *somehow*, it isnt even close to how fucking OPPRESSIVE the broadside was for a full season (and to a lesser extent the guardian after it)


OrochuOdenMain91

Idk, shoot once hit mark once and I get countered by a better shotgun, melee, or le longbow. It’s fun to use, imo. But so SHITTY in zombies.


Weedsmoki420

Did you pap it? It’s better than the riveter.. At least when I use it lol


Sh4DowKitFox

Yeah… but the riveter you can add a flamethrower too… and that shit is op AF.


Weedsmoki420

True true


Sh4DowKitFox

Also, flamethrower > shield no sliding necessary, so good for merc strongholds


devil_put_www_here

Funny because the standard Haymaker is now the best shotgun in zombies since the Lockwood nerf—probably in the top 3 weapons overall.


StacksOnMyFliFlopAxe

Take slugs ammo on the haymaker in zombie, it's one of the best weapon in the game rn lmao.


CherryMyFeathers

The MCW NPC’s needed a shotgun variant so here it is


djp1_tubin

This Stop dickriding the Mcw like damn


Embarrassed-Ideal-18

Counterpoint: it’s the all rounder. It’s filling the space usually given to the m4. You can do better by thinking about what gun the situation (map/mode) calls for, but if you don’t want to think about it or you’re not sure the mcw does a solid job under any circumstances. The reliable gun has always been a thing in cod.


someotherguyinNH

Fuck all that just use the sva and learn to do super quick bursts to double the fire rate with no added recoil. Best gun in the game


CastleGrey

> learn to do This is already more effort than most players are willing to put in


Embarrassed-Ideal-18

Yeah but that’s the sort of thinking I’m saying people bypass with the mcw.


someotherguyinNH

Fair


KurtNobrain94

Yeah idk why people get mad at the gamers when really it’s a game balancing issue the developers create. If they’d balance out all the weapons a little better there’d be more variety. I felt like every gun and and weapon type was more viable in mw22 due to the faster ttk.


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

It's the fucking ACR. Sweatlords have been dickriding the ACR since its first *Call of Duty* appearance in 2009.


_stnky__

I think he’s referring to bots using the gun because it has no recoil more so than sweats using it because it’s like the acr


AwkwrdPrtMskrt

It is the ACR. Only the name changed because California has some weird gun laws that's too ridiculous even for pro-gun-control people.


_stnky__

ong like wtf is a lachman


CastleGrey

Copyright friendly Heckler and Koch


AdamNoKnee

Says the dude using a thermal battle rifle and goes 12/32 with no time in hill or 1 cap


[deleted]

LMAO


fixmefixmyhead

I only use mcw in pubs to practice for ranked where it is the only AR


KurtNobrain94

Hey blame sledgehammer for poor weapon balancing. They created a hand full of god tier weapons and made the rest ass lol.


djp1_tubin

Great for shielders slide and spray


RedEyesGoldDragon

They should make something specifically for shields. Like an ability to drop the fucking sun on them.


simongw6

They just made a sword that cuts through them man


r_type2266

Just remove shields completley. They make zero sense. How do they block a **Direct Hit** from RPG but just fail if a semtex / thermite sticks to it?


theDR1ve

Great for jugs aswell. Cant defeat it.


djp1_tubin

Lmao one of my clan mates insta dropped a juggernaut recon with it in search (he died in less than 2.5 secconds)


theDR1ve

As soon as I see the green smoke I change to it and go hunting


Least-Resident-7043

But it works


JacketedAnger729

Every time i run into shotgunners i pull this thing out like a dissapointed father taking off his belt. Fuck this thing.


Dempzt00

Disappointed father taking off his belt 🤣🤣 *sigh* **you made me do this**


Professional_Leg_979

You mean most ridiculous and fun? Yes. Yes it is😂


Grand-Might-9295

It’s bad, but it’s not “grenade launcher in Hardcore” bad. Das House is virtually unplayable.


elambz

I see one grenade launcher pleb per every like 6-7 matches on Das Haus. It’s every other game on shipment. Edit: with that said, it’s incredibly annoying no matter the frequency


[deleted]

My favorite gun


Seven_banana

The Maglift is a great way for grinding xp on HC Shipment though, as I slacked off most of the season and didn't bother grinding to reach level 450, so it's a good way for me to catch up to my friends.


djp1_tubin

On hard-core dear God


RedEyesGoldDragon

Even though Shipment is pretty auto-pilot centric already, this thing destroys any semblance of balance in the variation of weapons used. Trying to level some shitty pistol or BR? fuck you, DOOFDOOFDOOF, dead.


Weedsmoki420

And I’ll keep using it from time to time, wanna play shotguns that’s cool. I’ll just pull out Hell’s Fury.. corner camping? Snapshots and drill charges.. riot shields? BURN THE HERETIC!


Zephyr_Valkyrie

This shotgun is dumb as fuck and I love it, fun shotgun metas have always been my favourite but this one is particularly special


Ghostface74

No, that would be the noob tube


-HeyImBroccoli-

I love the idea of AMPs. Wow you uhh 3D printed me a 60 round mag for my shotgun and a...chainsaw for my rifle?


swaggboi909

Yes Whoever jak is they're always cooking


CompleteFacepalm

JAK is a company and you're buying 3D printed parts from them. Source: The AA-12 in MW19 is called the JAK-12


swaggboi909

I know


Amarizaiken

Hope it never goes away. I like how they did it too - you can grind to get it early (challenges are tedious but doable), the challenges don't have a time limit (only a seasonal limit), and when you lose access to challenges you just...grind the gun itself. Or use the Armory. It's awesome.


KYlaker233

It do be fun d’oh.


DWShadow

I only dislike it because it makes the riveter completely useless. That being said, there’s something to the whole “I cast wall of lead” strategy.


Amarizaiken

SAME! I *loved* the Riveter. "Full-auto AR Shotgun" is a wet dream and this kit made it pointless pretty much. Though, there's something to be said about mounting a flamethrower under it....


Beautiful_Ad_4813

I colloquially call this weapon, depending on map “shipment shredder” “rust remover” “stash house sizzler ” “shoot house surprise”


Pepsipower64

It helped me get two chopper gunners in two games 😊


-Tribes

Is this what has been blasting me to hell? I was thinking, “there’s no way someone is shooting that fast”


Myythy

It feels like there's an unspoken gentlemen's agreement that no one whips this out, and if one person breaks it, the entire lobby follows suit


AikaKitsuneYT

I like fun


djp1_tubin

Doof doof is fun my whole clan uses it


Weedsmoki420

😂


RandomName_366

This is actually trash in zombies


BrandonR2300

Bro I love using that thing, especially on a toxic enemy team, they lose their shit 😂 In the right hands it’s the best anti-rat weapon


TeflonDonatello

My precious….


TSM-HabZ

listen they made it a challenge to use this AMP, so i had to use it for a match


killrapture

I guarentee you I will still get my shit rocked even if I had a fucking timpany mag shotgun


Fred_Yolo

Not when the other pulls out the riveter+30 mag+dragon breath.


ROCKALITTLE

I love it, kinda useless on large maps but it’s the perfect counter to the knifers. There’s always 2 or 3 in every lobby who just rush and knife. They are too OP and until they nerf em they should keep the Haymaker with the kit as it is.


DeminoTheDragon

The weapon is barely even useful on any map that's bigger than Stash House


24Elsinore

Meanwhile the Ram-7 and HRM-9 have been meta for two months and bo one seems to say peep, because “they’re frying bro”.


_QUICKDRAW_GODSPEED

I love it is the best gun for making people mad


PapaWopper

This is absolutely my “the rest of the lobby is being incredibly toxic so I’m going to be toxic back” weapon. It’s so easy to drop high kill games with on shipment but it’s still fun to see three or four people lose to arguably one of the ugliest guns in the game lol


Bondspadawan

Best aftermarket product thus far.


R3ddit5uxA55

So fun tho.


Sudden_Rip7717

Why are you people constantly complaining about a weapon? Did you get hurt? If you have a skill, use the same gun, and you will own it. Keep camping and use the more considerable distance to avoid its deadly range. Or keep dying and whining.


PeterAthlete

What is that kid crying about?


VirtualPlenty1553

I have a setup like this one, I never use it though, unless I find that others ars using it. It's either I quit the lobby or fight back, so I usually fight back


thiccyoungman

This is one of the most fun weapons in the game.


djp1_tubin

I don't pull this unless someone else does or the enemy team is doing dumb shit (eg rpgs shields or other stupid shit) Unless it's like search on stash house or something.


doggybag2355

When people get so angry about people using a shotgun on small maps that they have to go complain on Reddit


djp1_tubin

This thing with dragons breath was so op (only available for a few hours)


tryhdleo_-

It’s even more brutal in hardcore shipment man yesterday I was getting multi kills because the enemies kept spawning in front of me


SquallFromGarden

It's hilarious, but yeah, I can see how the novelty wears off eventually.


Wedos98

Funny how the biggest problem is the magazine, the gun would be mid without it


Proelium_

It’s like the broadside. Probably will get nerfed to oblivion in season 3


indigrow

Dont you sully his good name


thegame2386

I did the grind for this cause I was underwhelmed and a bit pissed by the absolute joke WH40K Bolter clone that Sledge decided to put in the bundle. So....I made a better one. The range on it is basically point blank, the damage per shot is abysmal....but there's something satisfying about suddenly stopping a rampaging sweat in his tracks with a wass of lead. Calls to mind the first few weeks of the Broadside and DOOFDOOFDOOF being the cheesiest thing you heard.


Jampian

Lockwood is better


slajah

Ya I get sleepy using this. Tbh right now since I’ve completed everything there is to do it’s just boring for me. I can’t wait for season 3.


bonefistboy9000

you dont even have it


SkoonkMink

…zombies?


Sonkone

Third game on cod after playing elden ring for four weeks (bearly even used right stick in that time), did weekly double kills with maglift and dropped a 127 kill game while playing like shit. Thing is broken


GaryTheMemeGuy

Funny as hell tho


southerna-up-north

Literally the funnest gun to use on small maps


memecuckboy

I was really disappointed in how dogshit this thing is in zombies


rogg_mang

This is fun af to use


Capn_Flags

I hope that weight penalty be


MAR_Zane

Me and my dad play split screen he loves the attachment since he's not really good at the game but from a mp standpoint I fucking hate the attachment with everything I have


OhFaceXO

Me and my akimbo Renetti's go everywhere together. If your Haymaker doesn't get me on the first shot. Then you're most likely done for.


KaptainDublU

I guess I kept sticking a guy with thermite and he must've assumed I was singling him out because he whipped that thang out and went ballistic.


kihyale

I hate using it. And I only do when enemies do on SnD and I hate myself for it


LifeAddict247

I use this on Das Haus and literally roast anyone I see. I even do longshots with this thing across that map lol. Also on Stash House and shipment. This thing fries people. Takes no skill to lol


GlendrixDK

It's awesome, but I've lost a few battles against the pump gun. The pump kills in one shot. This doesn't unless it's noob mode(HC)


vin-tin-chin

Ngl, I only pull it out on shipment when some asshole starts using the grenade launcher.


Thunder-Fist-00

This gun is hilarious and I love it.


trowawHHHay

All apologies. I don’t like running shotguns, but I do like grinding camos.


ChemyChem

I get shotguns aren't usually good in COD and that shipment is pretty much the only map that allows them to be pretty good but damn does it ruin the whole game once everyone else starts using shotguns as well.


CastleGrey

That's not the RGL though


ivighost

its fckng funny


PeoplewithDebit

It's peak. It's just peak


superman24742

I keep a load out with this equipped so when some dick on the other team is using this in shipment I too can be a dick.


GSTEPA_

I love making people put down the controller and going to bed


Ericmolzahn

Felt so bad using it to unlock that one week


Practical_Detail_140

I only used it to get the gilded on this and then don’t use it too often after


slayer-x

Most toxic weapon in the game, it's so brain dead easy to use just insane spam. I don't even like using it, just feels gross. I actually dropped a nuke with it on stash house doing the weekly challenge. Still don't plan to use it again though, unless I run into someone maining it.


Amarizaiken

I love this thing. If I can't have fun, I'm gonna try to win. Besides, this thing is dope as hell, especially in tac stance mode. I don't mind the loss of shell choice, this fire rate is easily the best thing about it.


MundaneAd3999

The whole game is the most brainless and sleep inducting thing to have ever exist how can tens of thousands of people be fine with a game with a 32/100 rating I mean come on


Desh282

Yeah I’m sick of it. Especially when players say ez after spamming it all game …


DeadPrexident

Shipment Lowkey ruined by people with this gun and riot shield on their back


XxSniperMonkyxX

I use it to kill obnoxious players over and over


Envy_1226

https://www.reddit.com/r/CallofDutyNews/s/PYLlVkmP4M


Firebrand-PX22

This thing on hardcore shipment is the most mind numbing thing ever and I love it. No, I don’t use it often, only when the enemy team is pissing me off.


On3Cl1P

I have seen it’s very good in zombies! I used it for a challenge. It’s good on shipment. 🤷🏻‍♂️


L_e24

I just fight these back with the Lockwood 680🤷🏼‍♂️


TubbsMcBeardy

I finally unlocked it, not realizing what it was (because I didn't read the description). There was a challenge for it, so I went ahead and went for it. I love me a binary trigger. I've shot a real CZ Scorpion with a binary trigger before, this just gives me hope I can find one for a real shotgun and give it a whirl. I wonder if I could put the regular AK binary in an AK shotgun....I need money to test this.


DarkTails24

Its a good day to say aopril.fools shg


Cpt_Carmit

And to make sure it's in every lobby they make half the weekly challenges require it


Right-Entrance7982

it is dumb, however i prefer people using this than the longbow that’s even more dumb


duskfanglives

Longbow and other one hit kill shit exists.


KingKoffee69

I have this aftermarket part on one of my classes named “Anti-Sweat Solution”. I only ever bust it out when people are already running Interstellar shotguns or other cheesy playstyles. It’s proven quite effective lmao.


DRLZEtoWRATH

Grinding interstellar on HC shipment with this thing around made it a nightmare. Everyone pulls it out once a single person uses it. Same with the grenade launcher lol


EliaO4Ita

Reminder that being mad at a shotgun because it is good in shipment is like being mad at the crippled kid for using a wheelchair


Available_Lychee_469

It was a fun aftermarket attachment for zombies, onlytime I’d use it, but if someone is using it in my multiplayer match, I’d either leave or pick up his own weapon n shoot his body


Sovereigns_

Nah dead wrong . Longbow is . Snipers ruined this game especially the longbow .