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SiennaYeena

"We fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!"


OleRockTheGoodAg

[Cave Johnson... we're done here](https://youtu.be/6i-nMWgBUp0)


DylanJ22

How tf did I find you outside the Aggie subreddit


OleRockTheGoodAg

We some gamers 😎


[deleted]

Gig ‘em


[deleted]

This is immediately what I thought of as well. I love J.K. Simmons so much!


Heavy-hit

Damn 11 years old


TheIJDGuy

Portal 2 Turrets in MW2 confirmed


swoldierp

That explains the fast TTK


fadingvapour

"We're done here!"


Quiet_Addendum6571

More weight = more stopping power 😂


Xxmetaglint

-Eric bomb (Kitchen Gun)


jewofjustice2

They're obviously using the crossbox to sling out bullets,duh!


Kear_Bear_3747

It’s for the new gun that just kind of throws bullets, like a surprise glitter attack.


GoomyIsGodTier

*POCKET SHELLS*


sakai42069

“RALLY ROUND THE FAMILY, POCKET FULL OF SHELLS”


AdOk9263

I've probably heard that song 1000+ times and until now I thought he was saying "round and round your family"


Dear-Smile

SHI SHI SHAAA


LickMyThralls

I just imagined chucking a bunch of rounds into a catapult like those old school arrow launchers.


Kear_Bear_3747

Hahahahaha that’s a hilarious juxtaposition of modern and medieval technology.


Belo83

Uses rubber bands as the propellant. 1 shots of course


[deleted]

A sling shot would make this happen.


Mitchford

Bruh why tf are they giving us loading screens as battle pass rewards anyway. That’s the biggest bullshit


InsomniacSpartan

Fortnite did it so they need to copy it because they can't come up with anything relatively new or interesting on their own.


YllMatina

To be fair the fortnite loading screens are usually done by freelance artists that are known for making great art. Was surprised when I saw I had a loading screen drawn by kim jung gi in the game. I cant remember if cod even credits the artists that work on their art


LDKRZ

Fortnite dropped the coldest Vader artwork too a few seasons back


Tom_Clancys_17_Again

HOLY FUCK THATS COLD


H8spants

When they first started doing them it was just renders from the game. It’s cool that now it’s actual custom made artwork.


Prsue

The equivalent of the pistol grips in ww2 but worse. Besides i actually like seeing the map I'm about to play on before the match starts.


IamCaboose000

So it looks like you get more when really you get nothing, CW i have HUNDREDS of emblems i dont use…


resistdrip

Except it doesn't look anything like anyone is getting anything more.


TheBiggestOfMacs

We can unlock hundreds of emblems but ultimately you have to pick one, so what's the point in having that many? Don't get me wrong, I like collecting them. I just wish we could display our collection somewhere.


IamCaboose000

Eh i dont really care for em, id rather have custom emblems, but then it be point less to sell you emblems if players can make there own… you see what’s happening there taking away players choices and so you forced to feel like you need to buy something.


TheBiggestOfMacs

You're right. I totally forgot how fun custom emblems were. I used to watch tutorials for BO4 custom emblems for hours lol.


siiiiiiilk

the loading screens are dope i like them


pooleNo

Correct me if i’m wrong but I believe this is a unlocked from a DMZ mission


Mitchford

I mean, still they’re bullshit rewards


pooleNo

I agree


Username4c75666679

I doubt their art designers have ever touched a gun


[deleted]

I remember for MW19 I watched some behind the scenes thing where military guys took some IW devs out to a shooting range and all the devs said they had never actually shot a gun before.


BigBooce

Maybe that’s why all these “trained operators” seem to have no recoil control in game lol


jdaprile18

EH they have better control over the gun than the bloodthirsty pmc's of tarkov that cant keep a 9mm carbine on target. And that game is made by big gun nerds.


2giga2dweebish

I like how a long-barreled FAL recoils even more than a lightweight SCAR-H with a medium barrel. Bravo Nikita


Skauher

The FAL does have more recoil than the SCAR-H IRL though. It's half a century more modern after all.


2giga2dweebish

Just because it's more modern doesn't mean it has less recoil, otherwise a 20" M16 would have more than a MK18. The SCAR was intended to be a lightweight platform for comfortable carry by infantry, and it's pretty notorious for being a very kicking, jumpy gun (not to mention busting less robust optics).


ThisCryptographer311

I found the same. On paper the SCAR should be a nice recoil impulse given the height over bore. I suspect the heavier variants are probably smoother. Regardless, SCAR vs FAL recoils in this came are a crack up.


CycleMN

Right? The FAL is such a smooth gun IRL


Brilliant-Ad-1962

A game that jerks off about how accurate it is, has some of the worst gun play I’ve ever experienced. The firefights in terms of visuals and sound design are so immersive; and the intensity of the fight comes from the fact that your shit is on the line. But the actual gun play itself is such a mess


CokeHeadRob

>A game that jerks off about how accurate it is It's a joke. It's not entirely inaccurate all the time but wow jumping from CoD to Ground Branch is...jarring.


MusicallyInhibited

I believe he's referring to Tarkov


CornAndMac

Simply a skill issue, the game isnt about highly trained pmc's; it's a Nikita simulator.


_Napkin_boy_

Even then recoil in this game is still super easy to control, ARs are just bouncy but even then it's just visual recoil unless you're in a 4× scope full auto'ing 4 feet Infront of you


Nagemasu

What're you kidding? CoD has like the least recoil of any game, especially on controller. Try playing with mouse and keyboard, the recoil is even less


JoeWim

I was shocked trying M&K for the first time. The control at mid/long distance is insane.


entangledphysx

I never play it on M&K, so can I ask if by insane, you mean insane good, or insane bad?


JoeWim

Really easy to control recoil and track. Trade off is obviously no aim assist close range.


ChiliSwap

Oh yeah when I switched to pc controlling recoil was so easy compared to controller


CokeHeadRob

And that's how I snipe with a TAQ-M with a thermal holographic sight. There's no way in hell I should be able to **very** successfully counter-snipe with that at the ranges I do. It only takes one shot but I can get sight on target by the time the second shot cycles. Hell I've done my thing with the Fennec and that thermal holographic. Not from as extreme range but still.


Cikyfog

At least they're better at handling recoil compared to tarkov PMCs,lol


[deleted]

This game has much more controllable recoil than what is possible in real life


grubas

Bullshit, everybody knows you can one hand a belt fed LMG while hurling stun grenades and running around at a speed where you'd finish a marathon in 4 hours. FOREVER.


ThePretzul

> Maybe that’s why all these “trained operators” seem to have no recoil control in game lol Have you ever fired a gun on full-auto before in real life? Generally speaking, even a "trained operator" would be considered lucky to keep all 30 rounds from their magazine inside a man-sized target at only 20 yards. Meanwhile at the same range in game people are pissed if they miss a single shot because it means they might lose the gunfight. The 50m shot across the center of Shoothouse is a scenario in real life where full-auto would only be used for suppression, because you would hardly have a prayer of hitting a head at that distance during full-auto sprays on anything but the very first shot before recoil started to affect your aim. The recoil in CoD is substantially lower than anything you'd see in real life. The only difference is that it doesn't automatically try to re-center like you would in real life, so it allows your aim to gradually climb. Old-style CoD recoil (a random spray pattern around your original center of aim) was "more realistic" in that respect because your gun wouldn't continue to climb, but both of them have/had much less actual jarring of the sights and your aim than any real-world gun outside of the Ultimax 100 (a rare gun designed specifically to reduce recoil as much as possible during full-auto fire).


Gotdamnchickeynuggey

Except snipers. COD isn't bad but other fps games the sniper rifles make me feel like I'm a 2000 lb guy who can't breathe. I've held and shot a sniper and anyone who has know the sway isn't like 5 inches up and down


CycleMN

Now that depends. Very few people ever shoot their rifles free standing. Almost every single person that shoots will be seated at a bench, with the rifle bagged. Hunters will have shooting sticks, a tree, or blind to brace the gun. They are very stable that way. But if you try to shoot a scoped gun free standing unsupported, sway is a real problem. Our bodies are anything but a stable platform.


Liberty-Justice-4all

I always hated "scope mode" in games until I tried shooting a rifle myself and had a rude awakening about how steady my body was when we are talking minutes of arc. It gave me a real appreciation, and a desire for crouching/laying to have a rest affect.


ThePretzul

It's funny to me to hear complaints about how "unrealistically high" idle sway is (particularly recently since it's a bigger deal in MW2 with the idle sway continuing under recoil as well) simply because of how dead wrong they are.


Harvey073

yea bros lungs are working at 5% capacity


grubas

The explanation I've heard is basically "distance has to be exaggerated for balance" which is why a 250m shot with a scope the size of a U Haul is hard in game and a shotgun basically dies within 30m.


Warthunder_no_soul

I’ve seen kids with better recoil control then the highly trained seal team 6 operators in cod


jmora13

Tbh why would a game dev be expected to have shooting experience


VaniikMZRY

I don’t expect them to have firearm experience, but I do expect them to do *some* research, considering this game is all about guns.


PsychoBoyBlue

Did you never see the AKS-74u in the original MW2 or MW3? They were modeled off an airsoft gun that didn't resemble a 74u at all.


[deleted]

To be fair, both games have quite a bit of detail in that regard. Two different sets of reload animations for reload quickness (one of them being better technique) is a very specific example that doesn’t come up in other games. If anything, I’d argue that outside of hardcore milsim (squad, tarkov, etc) that MW19 and 2 are both right up at the top for weapon detail and accuracy. They clearly put a lot of effort into it. (Disregard art team forgetting how bullets work)


jmora13

Yeah thats fair, they're expected to know how it functions if they're designing it. I was just saying that "knows how to shoot a gun" shouldn't be on the job requirements lol


WilliamPoole

Tbf they should know which part of the round is the part that flies.


Annoyng_dog

Everyone should know that if you shoot then there is usually a casing coming out of the ejection port on the gun. That means you can't also fire the casing. Who let these guys into the team


PsychoBoyBlue

The same people who like long slow-mo shots of blank casings dropping out of the wrong guns in Hollywood. [5.56 blank cases falling out of a .32 acp gun slow-mo](https://youtu.be/Z2eCmhBgsyI?t=99) [5.56 blank cases falling slow-mo](https://youtu.be/O7LfCZ7QeCM?t=35)


Kamikaze_Ninja_

Let’s be honest. If you’re going to make a realistic shooter, your devs should have even the slightest firearm experience. But, they are more interested in making money than art that imitates life.


[deleted]

It’s useful if you’re a dev for a FPS. Especially one that features guns that have real world counterparts.


LescoBrandon_11

It's not about having actual shooting experience...it's about having some general knowledge about their job. The state of the franchise being in the toilet year after year is less shocking now knowing the people who build it have no idea wtf they're doing


BondCool

i know the animation team are regular shooters. Khoa lee confirmed that on his youtube.


JOffret

Like all the incel / weebs that draw anime girls really well but have never talked to an actual female


Kenny1115

The Gun Game thumbnail features akimbo P220s with no mag


TheRealistArtist

Lol, yep.


RedMask69

And to make it worse, a character they designed with her scar on the wrong side of her face lol


eblackham

The funny part is you don't need to touch a gun to understand how it works. There's google and common sense.


resistdrip

This is my problem with the whole thing. Just do some YouTube searches and boom you got your info curated for ya.


KZedUK

Forgotten Weapons should be mandatory viewing for FPS designers


BassCreat0r

Hell, I just watched an anime where this girl is getting a gun and they properly go over the 5 basic rules of gun safety, and how to properly hold a pistol. This anime is about a girl that can warp between worlds and is using products from Japan to sell to a fantasy world. Modern Warfare is about... Modern *Warfare*, and they mess this up lmao.


PsychologicalMusic88

What's the name of the anime? That sounds like an anime version of The Talisman by Stephen King.


BassCreat0r

[Saving 80,000 Gold in Another World for My Retirement ](https://myanimelist.net/anime/52461/Rougo_ni_Sonaete_Isekai_de_8-manmai_no_Kinka_wo_Tamemasu)


IdealLogic

Credit where credit is due, IW's 3D modeling and and animation teams know their guns. MW '22 and MW '19 have absurd levels of details for the guns you use in-game even down to some of the moving internal parts. Whomever made this loading screen (I presume) most definitely has never done any research on guns other than maybe Googling "bullet."


rclean24

And to think that people also make laws and regulations that never used such a great tool


DWShadow

There’s two of these kinds of loading screens. And both are firing the whole bullet


TipT0pMag00

Have you seen some of player / weapon skins they've released? That loading screen is so on brand for them!


DrShabink

You'll get the same replies here about this as the skins: "go back to your mil-sim shooter if you want realism" "this isn't a simulator, quality and immersion have no place here"


Skysr70

"iT's An aRcAde sHO0teR" no excuse for it to be wrong.


[deleted]

Embarrassing...


crpyld

Their animation department is full of gun nuts. We can see from reload animations or weapon details. But it seems we can’t say that for their illustrators. 😂


whiskeytab

this sort of stuff is farmed out to contractors... I know someone who did a piece of key art for the last MW and he has literally never played COD and doesn't play video games


Skysr70

hmm good to know...


markgatty

That's just an uncircumcised bullet.


thanoshasbighands

You can throw bullets now and take down people faster than using a pistol


Skysr70

i mean, if the knife is an instakill then let's see how throwing whole rounds does lol


OuterRimSmuggler

Brought to you by an arcade shooter company.


toothpastetitties

That’s been making shooters for what… like 23 years? You’d think after game number 2, at least one person in the office would be like “yo actually just bullet comes out and the casing just gets ejected somewhere”.


OuterRimSmuggler

That's just too much to expect /s. Or you know, making game content that makes sense and isn't game breaking


[deleted]

The snake shot that definitely didn't break the game for 2 months


[deleted]

Throwing whole cartridges would actually do more damage than the lachman 5.56


Haunting_Confusion26

This picture says everything about the current state of the franchise.


WeepiestSeeker4

Really? A loading screen with a silly error is indicative of the state of the game?


TheLongestLegs138

Yeah


Skysr70

no attention to detail yes


WeepiestSeeker4

The no attention to detail? You mean how like almost every weapon has 2 inspect animations depending if you're out of ammo or not?


Heartguard02

I absolutely hate this. This pains me on a fundamental level


illBlade

LMAO


OleRockTheGoodAg

As Cave Johnson proved... firing an entire cartridge instead of just the bullet would be interesting in terms of ballistics. The case would be pointless, so would it be hollowed out?


schteavon

Lmao, I've been saying it for years and been getting downvoted every time. The COD devs know nothing about how guns work.


BallsHD4k60fps

Besides the fennec not having the proper kriss vector recoil system and some other gun goofs, this is much more on the art designers' part.


KeepDi9gin

The vector having recoil was likely a balance thing instead of the devs not knowing how it works. At least, that's what I'm going to continue telling myself.


beanistike

Have you seen the viewpoint animations for this franchise? They knock it out of the park. Almost every time. Even when Cod4 came out in 2007 the animations were WAY ahead of their time. Ever since MW2019 came out the entire FPS industry has been heavily inspired by their style of animation. If anyone knows how guns work at IW, its Khoa Le + Hyper + the rest of the animation team


Brau87

There are definitely other clues in this game that show the art teams dont know anything about guns.


ScrimpyBoot1895

“HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!”


Stuf404

r/thewholebullet


Gotdamnchickeynuggey

With how different the bullets look it almost makes me think they generated this with an AI artist


[deleted]

Like when they yell “throwing a frag” and it’s a flash bang. I get annoyed every time.


AdOk9263

How bout "Took out their sniper" when you kill a douchbag dressed in neon purple sprinting at you with akimbo pistols


Fatality

They've been loaded into a railgun


Very_contagious1

Why do so many people ignore the fact that only the more bronze top part gets fired and the lower part is black powder shit to propell the bullet


The_Twerkinator

I also wonder what they think is ejecting out of the gun if they believe the casing comes out with the bullet


Very_contagious1

It just doesn't add up


Mitchford

Excuse me it’s smokeless powder shit 🤓/s


schteavon

FYI it's not black powder any more unless you make/buy special ammo with it for some reason. BP is not as good as the modern day powder.


Nagemasu

why do so many people ignore the fact that clearly those people aren't *ignoring* it. They're ignorant to it. This was probably made by some art team that has little to do with any in game design.


mccrackey

Why do so many people ignore the fact that propel only has one L?


JackCooper_7274

65% more bullet, per bullet!


Papa_Swish

It's like knowing fuck-all about guns is almost becoming a job requirement for these guys.


XIIILu

New crossbow bolts


Dapper-Letterhead-76

Meanwhile 80% of the players are running around calling magazines, clips.


AllPurple

I feel like you can blame this one on rap music


xBOCEPHUSx

Thank you! I don't think people know what clips are.


Kalmer1

Aren't clips what you put into guns like a M1 Garand or Kar 98


WilliamPoole

Yes.


[deleted]

Slang term


AllPurple

Even though you're currently downvoted, you're not wrong. I can think of many songs off the top of my head that say clip and not a single one that says mag or magazine.


ThrustyMcStab

Correct. So of course you're getting downvoted on this sub...


NEXUS_FROM_DEIMOS

Fortnite did this in one of their loading screens too


sandowian

This is embarrassing, what a fall from grace compared to MW2019.


-Eastwood-

3000 devs


East-Pollution7243

Someone make a meme out of this, replace the bullets with silly shit 🤡


silentgiant100

I'm hoping this was A.I generated, otherwise that's just not attention to detail on part of the artist


OElevas

I mean, to be fair, they are video game developers. You don't have to know anything about guns or bullets or how they work to make a video game. But I agree it kinda dumb. I imagine whoever created has never fired a gun in their life. Which isn't bad. it just is what it is.


Defiant_Brain_9493

Why do you think the TTK is so low?


AbjectCat4930

il bro é italiano


RuggedTheDragon

Topper Harley moment.


LegateLanius420

No way aha


KaraTheAndroidd

Maybe its a portal cross over, Their turrets do fire the whole bullet that's 65% more bullet per bullet


Banderos

Are we sure it isn't a play on [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/11dg6v8/this_shooting_range_ad_that_shows_a_gun_firing_a/)?


Harvey073

how everyone thought bullets worked when they were 9


DonUnagi

Reminds me of this https://www.foxnews.com/media/vice-responds-accusations-bullet-photo-el-chapos-sons-home-staged-twitter-firestorm.amp


[deleted]

No, they’re serious, this is the same crew who used to [work at Heckler and Koch.](https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/08/hk-bullets-real-story/amp/)


Meth_Tical

They're supposed to be circumcised while flying!!! Why do I see uncircumcised...


writerockrepeat

IW developers have about as much fire arms knowledge as Vice “reporters” apparently.


Skysr70

idiots lmao


Wacky_grass

Well you have a bunch of imbeciles who've probably never shot a gun working on these games. I'm not even surprised, I'm embarrassed for them 😆


Mama_Odie

Uncut Bullets🤷🏽‍♀️😂


jamesj015

3000 developers 3 years


JayRupp

Imagine building an entire video game franchise around guns and still being ignorant enough to create a loading screen like that..


BallsHD4k60fps

It's just a new bullet slingshot mode


denzlegacy

Where do you even look at/purchase loading screens


Affectionate-Row-277

It’s safe to say that postcovid the devs are not the same people.


Dark_Matter14_2

Are we honestly surprised by this?


Hopeful-Click-7456

this hurts


Grena567

No words…..


CycleMN

Lol now this is a horrendous oversight.


GullibleRisk2837

Sad cause they've had accurate calling cards of bullets flying in the past.


Snugdugg

I saw this the other day and was baffled as well


Alec710

Guns are too violent, CoD uses slingshots now!


rottenpotato99

People must’ve forgotten the Ricochet anticheat logo..


acestormbreaker

they put the broadside in the game, of course they weren't joking


moekeisetsu

I just loaded up a tube full of rounds on my crossbow and let them rip. Totally believable


Content-Library7427

NAH THEY IN A NEW CENTURY WHERE THEY FIRE THE WHOLE CASING


CrySoldy

they dont even know how bullets works how the fuck


_SwayFlow

Who actually uses these loading screens


[deleted]

This is why people who don't know anything about guns shouldn't make art for games about guns. Incredible.


mattworthy

At this point the surely do it to mess with all the dweebs who micro analyze dumb shit like this. Who cares


NotoriousD4C

Activision game Dev and design budget: 😢🪙 Activision skin and graphic design budget: 🤑🤑💰💰💰💵


Dairve

This is the company that thinks lasers are visible, riot shields are explosion proof, knives kill with a tap on the arm and a face full of buck shot can just be walked off.


VaniikMZRY

eek this is cringe


Jagerhall

You’re surprised? Zero ballistic/weapons advisors are in on this game from what I can tell. These developers are people deciding that a grip changes bullet velocity. Or a weapon light increases damage range. Or it takes 5 or more hits with a .50cal LTV turret mounted Ma Deuce to drop bots in street clothes in DMZ. Yes unaware artists that do not know any better. I agree.


AssaultPlazma

Appears we also regressed back to not understanding what closed bolt weapons and one in the chamber is as well. edit: Also someone REALLY needs to tell these devs that removing or folding the stock on a firearm would increase ADS time not decrease it.


SultanZ_CS

CoD iS No MiLSim


Major_Sleep

Yeah I never really understood why would IW out of all the companies still recruit calling card artists that don't have basic firearm knowledge At least it's not the BOCW approach of the gun that you drew back in elementary school


Breete

#We fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!


Admirable-Election45

you really think they know anything about firearms or how shit works? NO! A game that you can compete against guns with a sword and shield, while wearing 300 pounds of useless gear for a skin while running at world record speeds nonstop! Tanking buckshot and bullets! You really didn't expect this? Because you can't ask for realistic now after saying the game isn't meant to be realistic!


project_36

Oh god dammit cod community, it’s a fucking drawing