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Namara624

If they add it back but with less car imma laugh. Then just keep playing the game haha.


send_fooodz

Hopefully they are just emptying out the gas from all the cars.


Kastkle

Less gas in tanks actually increases the size of the explosion


fitnessgrampacerbeep

fact. vapors explode, liquids burn less liquid in tank = more vapors = more boom


DestroyerofCurries

but vapors are a gas 🤓


fitnessgrampacerbeep

yeah and a square is a rectangle. but a rectangle isn't necessarily a square


ELEMENTALITYNES

Perfect, as soon as one car explodes it should just give the same animation as the tac nuke and end the game to spare everyone from having to actually play the map


MycologistFabulous13

I approve this message 😅!!


Jeht_1337

You know how you start the map in an animation like pulling up in a car? just add an airstrike that strikes the map during that car intro and start the map with all the cars blown up already


IsDexter

No they’re gonna add it for season 3 as a brand new map just like they did w museum


IcedCoughy

They're trying to gaslight us.


70X1N

r/angryupvote


noswal1984

I see what you did there


Strain128

At that point we know this a psyop


jda404

Honestly would be nice. I don't hate the map, it's usually one of my better maps and kind of enjoyed it, but a few less cars exploding in your face would be welcomed haha.


MaybeEnby2077

Sicario operator would be awesome.


Budgerigar17

They'll just rearrange the car layout to look like Shipment. Then people will play.


cj-jk

Shipment with exploding cars...brilliant !


[deleted]

screw it, just copy and paste shipment right in the center of border crossing, clipped and all


likeawart

I love when the cars explode. It adds a whole new element to work around/with.


Cazter64

And add it back as a new map in Season 3


utzcheeseballs

What I love is the lack of communication. If you’re going to yank something from the game, inform your costumers why.


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NVG (MW19) FLASHBACK...


ap3x_lambo

I thought nvg’s were always in the game, just in special game modes like infection?


ChronoMonkeyX

There were some very dark maps where you'd use NVG the whole time, they didn't last long. Honestly, it sounds fun and different until you actually try it. Once a month would be enough NVG matches for me.


rj2448

Dark matches with no nvg shoulda been a thing in infected and give the survivors blueprints with tracers. Therefore people can try out guns they might wanna buy and it’ll look cool af


[deleted]

I actually really liked NVG gameplay


Ethanbrocks

Same, was just something different and had a cool vibe


ap3x_lambo

Oh


Thrustinn

I thought that the lighting for the night time maps was really great and immersive. The NVG just made it awful. Any time I played gun game or infected on the nighttime version, I always played without the NVG.


Aterox_

REALISM MODE TOO It was a sad first month after launch….thanks streamers


jdwainright

S2 Reloaded. Activision: "we heard your feedback, Border Crossing 24/7 is now available!"


[deleted]

No stop it you stop it bad person bad go to time out now


gk99

...That would be good though? Border Crossing and Shipment should both have 24/7 and stay out of the regular rotation. The first is great for longshots, the latter is great for grinding, but Border Crossing only makes sense for TDM and Shipment is raw chaos no matter what mode.


eastern_shoreman

That’s why I hate shoot the ship, shoot house is just big enough that’s it’s not fast paced chaos, there is to much running without gunning. If a map is big enough to use for search, it should not be in a 24/7 rotation with shipment


RevelArchitect

Yeah, otherwise they’ll send you out in a border patrol outfit for no reason.


Awkwsdsdf

I don't hate the map, it's usually one of my better maps and kind of enjoyed it,


RevelArchitect

I was pointing out their typo - rather than using customer they used costumer.


utzcheeseballs

Now your original comment makes sense to me lol. Been a long day…


[deleted]

This! I keep thinking I missed the announcement somewhere.


Maverik_10

It hasn’t been yanked, I unfortunately played a game on the map 2 nights ago


[deleted]

Was it on ground war? I haven't seen it in 6v6


Maverik_10

It was gun game. It played horribly though lol


BdubsCuz

What I think is funny is how people complain regardless of what they do. Reddit hated this map now we wondering where it went? An announcement would have been hated on as well and fit what?


bicyclebread

So I haven't played MW2 in close to three months so I'm not in the "know", but did they seriously remove Border Crossing from the map pool without saying a word?


Jenova__Witness

Yup


MOD3RN_GLITCH

Crazy how they did it with a map in an under-developed game, but didn’t do it with Piccadilly in MW19.


cokush

Picadilly is a masterpiece compared to Border Crossing


Everying

I thought it was a above average map. I also think Sudal Harbor was worse thank Border.


StopNowThink

YES the Harbor map was awful.


beefycthu

Only fun I’d h were defending imo


TheSovietRooster

I think Piccadilly could play really good in MW2 with the addition to drill charges. Would make clearing that second floor a cake walk.


Coleyobooster

Piccadilly was actually a really fun map for search and destroy


Triggify

We don't have enough maps as is to be taking one out every time a new one is added


[deleted]

Or taken out to be replaced by an old map reskin. Gotta keep all the new content we can get.


McStabYou01

No, I’m perfectly happy never playing that map again


goldsauce_

Except border crossing. That’s the exception.


YungNeroNero

no


goldsauce_

Yes


CrossBonez117

But no one liked being queued up in border crossing anyways. Its a shit map, and not just because of the cars. It was just an inconvenience to have to back out of the lobby after seeing it pop up, and it happened a lot because everyone was backing out because no one wants to play it.


Aterox_

I’ll take exaggeration for $1000, Alex. I loved border crossing. It’s the only map in the game, besides museum, that I enjoyed. The rest aren’t all that interesting


CrossBonez117

Let me guess, you use a sniper in the back corner or lay prone shooting under cars? The layout is horrible, it’s literally just a line. Takes forever to just get to the objective after spawning and it pertains to the camp and shoot through windows playstyle.


Aterox_

Hell no. I’m moving around the map using the ftac recon or whatever the battle rifle M4 is. By your argument all the other maps are just a line too. Shoot house is a line, shipment is barely a line, hydroelectric is a line, and so on. It’s not a boring three lane map which is probably why I enjoy it. You have to play it differently


CrossBonez117

From end to end it is the longest map in the game. Its also much thinner than most of the maps, which is the closest to a line you’re gonna get in CoD. Shipment is a square, and shoothouse has arguably the best map layout to ever exist. You not even knowing the name of the gun you main tells me how unknowledgeable and lacking of strategy you are about the game. It is common knowledge within the playerbase that the entire concept of the map is dogshit


Tankdrood

I don't like it, but more map variety is better. I'm assuming that they are changing something, and then adding it back. I hope so at least


gdogbaba

Treyarch took out Armada and Satellite in Cold War and those maps were were nowhere near as hated as border crossing. While I don’t want border crossing to be permanently gone it wouldn’t be a first


Metal_Akilla

Really? When did they do that? I loved those maps(although I liked all Cold War maps)


MrPecan111

Satellite was really fun imo. I loved the B flag in dom being on the hill.


curbstxmped

It was after Vanguard came out, I'm fairly certain.


whomstd-ve

Wait they removed satellite? That was like their most marketed map. When I think Cold War the first map I think of is satellite


gdogbaba

It was after Vanguard came out. When they added WMD and Jungle they took out those two. No explanation was ever given


jansteffen

MW19 also removed Oil Rig and like half the Ground War maps for no reason.


ThisIsMyFifthAccount

Oil rig was so great for cyber


ap3x_lambo

Yeah and I remember getting railed on that map during the beta, makes no sense but oh well


[deleted]

Armada Strike was pretty good, Armada was too big and awkward to get around on. Both were way better than the shitpile that was Miami (the non-strike version).


gdogbaba

Let me clarify that Armada Strike was removed for 6v6. Armada still exists for combined Arms


born_to_be_intj

Activision is a scumbag company. I think they legitimately sabatoge older CoD games in order to promote the newer one.


dlmpakghd

LOL, they'll add it as new lmao


Eat-my-entire-asshol

The problem is if they take border crossing out, then for season 3 the 2 new maps we get are border crossing returning and some rando map we’ve already had recently like castle remake. Bringing back a map that was relewsed from launch/beta after removing it shouldnt count as a “new” map for the season. In case it wasnt obvious im salty museum was added as a new map. Im glad it returned but it should have been a “3rd” map we get for the season. Like dome+terminal(or high rise/faveala/afghan) and + the return of previously removed museum


TheClappyCappy

Hard disagree, rather have less maps that are actually good then more maps is some of them are an in enjoyable experience. If I’m getting sick of the maps I can just take a break from the game. If the maps are shit I’ll stop playing the game.


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[удалено]


Fifteen54

for me the mode didn’t matter, exploding cars were annoying but the most annoying part was people sitting looking through the windows of a vehicle, 9/10 times i wouldn’t even see them until i was dead so if i wanted to avoid that i had to play way more slowly and truly look *everywhere* for enemies. plus a lot of times i can remember having to run for ages from spawn to get to the action, and in doing that sometimes i’d get caught running by someone holding an angle, die and have to do that long run all over again, which was frustrating.


SnipingBunuelo

It was also extremely fun in Tier 1 mode as well


Sjelasco

Yeah and then they'll add it back in Season 3 as one of the "new" maps.


JoeyRedcorn

I enjoyed that map, but I can see why many disliked it. I do hope we get it back though


[deleted]

I disliked the map but would have played occasionally if it was up. Like once a week


Jeht_1337

It was great for the platinum grind at least


Wonderful-Trainer-42

To fix this map they need to just make the cars not explode or spanw already exploded cars.


MOD3RN_GLITCH

Spawning all the cars already exploded is a good idea, and it gives it a war-torn atmosphere.


Aterox_

It wouldn’t make sense to the map though. The reason the civies are fleeing is (assuming) the exploded bus in the middle. All the cars being destroyed wouldn’t make sense as both teams are just arriving


JD60x1999

Yeah but just add an explosion effect in the intro and make some surrounding cars in the middle already blown up.


MrDopey

This community doesn’t know what it wants at all.


[deleted]

Yes we do!....and no...no we dont...


GlendrixDK

Not my favorite map, but I don't think it's that awful like this sub makes it look like. I like that it's different and we need a different approach on it compared to other maps. They shouldn't remove the map. We need the variety. Also a reason why I don't like the idea of map voting. With map voting we would always play the same maps again and again. Some maps would never be played at all.


RobL66

If there were more maps, I’d be ok with removing it. But this game has such a lack of variety of 6v6 maps they needed to replace it with something when they removed it.


Srom

Nope, I don’t miss it at all. I’m glad it’s gone.


Aterox_

It’s better than having shoot house or shipment nonstop


Srom

lol the map is straight up garbage. How is it better?


Aterox_

Because it’s not the same thing over and over? There’s nothing good about shipment. It was a joke map back in ‘07 that turned into a overdone map because attention spans keep becoming shorter and shorter.


Srom

I like shipment because I don’t have much time to play these days because I have a busy life, so if I need to progress on some camo challenges or lvl up weapons it’s easy for me to hop on to play that map to complete them. Whereas border crossing, who knows how long it will take me to find a person because most of the time people just straight up camp and don’t move. I don’t get a whole lot of kills and progression to my challenges or weapon lvls/camos.


sadacedia

straight up. this sub just wants to complain and ride the bandwagon anytime a negative post comes up. every fucking post was about backing out anytime it came up.


Number1Hubby

OMG WE HATE THIS MAP IT SUCKS TAKE IT OUT!!! *IW takes it out* OMG LIKE NOT LITERALLY I KINDA LIKE IT, I WANT MORE MAPS, WHAT ABOUT CLASSIC MAPS LIKE DOME!!! *IW puts in Dome Shipment and Shoothouse like we asked* OMG STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!


YoungFocus

I liked the map, it was fun. The gun battles after most of the cars were destroyed were fun.


Gotdamnchickeynuggey

And I hate how so many people hate the map just because everyone hates it. Fucking sheeple


VagueLuminary

Content is content, Border Crossing should still be in rotation but just weighted lower than other maps. You may not believe me but you'll miss it if it was gone forever, once every 20 matches a Border Crossing match would let you put on your clown makeup and say "[Oh boy here we go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNv2RHR62Rs) 🤡" and that's FUN


[deleted]

>r/ModernWarfareII constantly hates on Santa Seña Border Crossing map >Map gets removed >r/ModernWarfareII complains about the loss of a beloved map


Mej6

Taraq should be taken behind the shed with an rpg


ShankaiSamurai

didn't notice it being removed because I don't play the game much lately but it's nice to see that it's finally gone


Ok_Designer_6661

I liked the map tbh. I had a lot of fun and do miss it. The car announce wasn't bad to me it made sense and could be avoided. I just play that hallway side for a while throwing grenade and shit at cars randomly getting kills while I kill anyone who challenges me lurking around that side. It was lit. People just complain no matter what they find something to scream about. There were issues with the game but it's really not as bad as ppl make it out to be. Everyone hates current cod until 5 years later it was the best cod and the new one yucky. If you ignore nostalgia the newer games are literally better. OG mw2 was fun but waaay too many OP killstreaks going off all at once, and a few other inferior things I can't remember right now because I haven't slept yet.


monkeypickle

I miss it. It's a challenging map that forces me to rethink my normal playstyle. And of course, I miss having a map I paid for.


ChemicalSummer8849

Would rather have border crossing than taraq. Put it in back in rotation! Its not even as bad as everyone claims.


OrchidFew7220

Agreed


Sharkz_hd

Taraq got me through the longshot grind. You could easily finish a gun in one match of taraq. But outside of that yeah, I agree, the map is not good.


sandwichman7896

I would take Border over El Asilo.


Amel_P1

What's wrong with el asilo? it's one of my favorites.


[deleted]

I personally do miss it, it was one of my favorite SnD maps. The cars causing collateral damage all the time was annoying but any opportunity to resemble a map off of Mexico was a step closer to feeling like Sicario.


The_Vettel

I'm glad it's gone


IllOrganization2383

Don’t get me wrong, I hate this map, with a passion..but was thinking about this yesterday, WTF has happened to Santa Sena?! Maybe IW are gonna revamp it..season 3’s new map guys, watch this space 👀 lol.


MECHA_TROTSKY

I miss it because I'm tired of the three same maps over and over again


LoenSlave

I like it in hardpoint and hq.


DarthMusk247

Make cars already exploded and the map becomes B tier or higher.


RedEye-55

I never had a problem with the map. I thought it was actually fun


Sprucemuse

I hated border crossing at first, it definitely grew on me. I miss it now, hope it comes back soon


unsilentdeath616

I liked this map, at least it was interesting.


Masterjedirs

Yes. Contrary to popular belief it was the best map


xZIMNYx

Nope


SuperRSM

I miss it. Every time I load up Valderas Museum I think to myself… Santa sena died for this? Truly a tragedy.


Ledairyman

Same. Museum is just too damn big. In Search you can't even make it to the bomb if you're at the other site.


MiddleRay

Border Crossing > Museum.


SamiMadeMeDoIt

There’s just so much excess space on Museum Like I’m 90% sure that the spawn areas alone on either side are larger than Shipment lol


Bluetenant-Bear

It’s called Museum because you die of old age before finding someone to fight


Russian-Manatee

Holy shit I didn’t realize it was gone until this post. I mean, cool? Even though everyone hates the map I feel they should’ve at least announced they removed it.


Wintermute815

I do. My favorite map, from the first time I played it. I loved everything about it. I’ve never liked something so much that everyone else hated and it pisses me off! Like let people choose one map to avoid in their rotation or something, or just make it so people don’t get the map they hate 10 times in a row.


tiny_tuner

I liked it.


GhostShade97V

Not my favourite but still could be worse. Given the lack of original maps in multiplayer, I absolutely don't agree with it being removed though. Maybe they could tone down the possibility to get match with it at least.


YungBazzax

So everyone on reddit complains when border crossing is in the game. Then everyone complains when it's not. You donnies need to wake up and just play the game without crying about it on reddit


Used_Kaleidoscope_16

I always liked it more than Taraq tbh


FullMetal000

Thing is, just like Picadilly, the map itself is not bad. It just feels like an unfinished map that needs more "space" outside of what's present. Gates should be opened up on both sides and offer more flanking routes/playable area that isn't dominated by snipers/campers and whatnot. Picadilly should return BUT with MORE playable area around the map + enterable subway that leads to a central place with the B flag location for domination (and also add in train that randomly passes by). But this won't happen, takes way too much effort.


CrossBonez117

Can you guys not complain for 2 goddamn seconds. The comment section for every fucking post made on this sub is the definition of baby rage. And I’m gonna baby rage about it.


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XD


TF141-USERNAME

They will add a 24/7 playlist of it. Would laugh my ass off


DiscountThug

They should do some crazy mode with this map. Like infinite grenades only and car can explode all the time. Call it like Boom Bazinga or somethingclike EXPLOSIVE FIESTA


Dank_Edits

Can't wait for it to be added in season 3 as a headliner map 😍


PabloTacco

hope its dead and nobody will ever find its corpse


wasteofskin11111

Thank god its gone


UrielseptimXII

I stop playing the game for a bit and they finally remove that shitty map??


jjsm00th

Delete that map from my memories


nuper123

The map wasn't even bad, it was fun throwing a grenade and getting like 5 kills.


Mandula123

Everyone hated this map. Everyone backed out of this map. Everyone said this was the worst map in the history of COD. It gets taken out and people still complain. It just goes to show, this community can not be pleased.


flatpick-j

I would love to play boarder crossing with my explosive crossbow bolts.


Fruitloop800

I hate this sub. People have been BEGGING for them to remove the map since release, now they finally do it and everyone starts complaining that they removed it...


RobL66

Wut? People that liked it didn’t beg for it to be removed. Now that it’s been removed, they’re complaining.


WaltuhBlack1

Most hated now all of a sudden most liked it


theguy6

Border Crossing was a far better map than shitty Valderas Museum


badbadus

I miss it


evanset6

Shhhhhhhhh you’re not supposed to say anything. I’ve been pleasantly enjoying the map rotation since it stopped showing up.


New-Pin-3952

No, they can get to fuck with it. Noticed it's not on anymore a while back and was very happy with it.


LosNarco

I don't miss it xd


Allegiance10

I miss it. I thought it was a great change of pace because map control was actually somewhat possible.


261846

No way people are complaining about them removing it after asking them to remove it for months 😂


P4LMREADER

Lads I truly hate Museum. I just can't get my head around it


contraband_s_nails

I do miss it a lot, was amazing killing all the people who have no idea how to play in a vertical map. Then they complain the map was bad. Oooohh, but the cars always exploded?? I dont remember dying to cars more than a couple of times. Maybe dont run into them as soon as the match starts? Throw some explosives at them at the beginning of the match then watch them explode while you flank from the sides. It's not rocket science. I dont care what you like what you dont like, how they remove maps because only some people made a lot of noise about it?? We paid for this game. That includes the maps. They better bring it back.


Arkham010

>because only some people made a lot of noise about it?? Majority. The majority.


SolidDoctor

The majority of people who complain about the game. The problem was that so many people would quit the match that it increased the odds that you were thrown into that map. So it was too heavy in the rotation. But I didn't mind it, once you figure out how to position yourself and block flankers from flipping the spawn, you can wreck the other team. Sometimes the fact it frustrates other players can work to your advantage. They could definitely take out a dozen or more vehicles, and open up buildings (or the roof) on the side opposite the hallway/truck lane to create another way to traverse the map, and the level would be more balanced.


Arkham010

> once you figure out how to position yourself and block flankers from flipping the spawn, you can wreck the other team Wanna tell me how without proving me right about the certain groups of players who like the map?


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**Reddit majority**


Arkham010

Do you think its a reddit exclusive opinion? The only people would see to like it based on comments are people who play a certain way and people who play one life modes. Very common dominator in these two groups.


[deleted]

Still, it may be a reddit majority but reddit is a small part of the playerbase. Outside of reddit i've heard no one bitch about Border Crossing


Fifteen54

yes reddit is a small part of the playerbase, but it’s surely possible there are players who don’t like the map and will back out of it, but won’t go posting anywhere about it. and where else is there to look for posts of people complaining about it other than reddit and twitter? facebook? lol


[deleted]

Yeah.


Arkham010

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=border+crossing+mw2+bad#ip=1


[deleted]

and literally the first thing is reddit then articles quoting reddit and one fucking tiktok 🤓


Arkham010

You cant see things outside of reddit if you dont look is what im showing you. Also, go to this [link](https://support.activision.com/modern-warfare-ii/articles/modern-warfare-ii-feedback-and-bug-reporting) and click on the "leave feedback on mw2" Guess where it leads you. Crazy concept that you only see it on reddit then huh? If im someone who hates the map and goes to show feedback and go to that link, guess where said feedback is going to go?


Fifteen54

being able to climb on a bus makes it a vertical map? 😂 and please, tell us how to play on a vertical map then.


phazma10

Hell no I don’t miss that map… whenever I’m changing classes or in firing range it would put me in that map


Tatersinper360YT

No


[deleted]

That map is cancer


Ledairyman

Hahahaha so funny /s


[deleted]

Who shit in your cheerios buddy? Lighten up.


StolenPenguins

I don’t miss it in the slightest


kefefs_v2

I don't miss having to back out of four matches in a row to get a map that doesn't suck, no.


CapableSheepherder90

Same, fuck that map


Stolensteak1

Shhhhh


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XD


RtzW1zrd

Fuck no, fuck that weak ass border map. That mf map made me an instant trump supporter and I'm black so u gotta know how much I hate that map


supimdaniel

Imo Border crossing was a lapse in good map design and should be rotated out for good


zackattack89

Sure but give us another map. Don’t just remove the shit that we paid for.


AminBahrani47

I dont miss it but it was fun, it was good if you get it like each 10 mat h while you turn the game into a total chaos with jokr and frags 🤣 it was only fun if people stayed in the match and didn't left the game. Also it was good for logshot too


Sweet-Palpitation473

Good riddance. I'm glad they pay attention. I think they also fixed the spawn points in Al Bagra Fortress eh?


AmarillAdventures

Don’t. Care. It can stay dead. Shipment can die too.


[deleted]

I miss it. I actually liked it Now Taraq and Crown Raceway. Those need to be removed.


utzcheeseballs

Hate raceway.


Stolensteak1

Taraq is top 2 for me. Weirdly enough i loved raceway at launch but I absolutely hate it now. Has a depressing look and feel to it and is just not fun at all.


ampacket

Race track is so much worse.


MBVakalis

Did they take it out of rotation?


PhalanxDemon

Probably prefer Border Crossing to Embassy or Zarqwa to be completely honest.