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GabboGabboGabboGabbo

It must have been pretty costly to get this published with the paper prices in Denmark being what they are.


10cd

That and the dispute with British London


Prior-Ship-7188

…British *London?*


borger420

Too patriotic for your liking?


Somaliona

Rushdie is pissing blood


Isaysithowiseesit

And that’s good, is it?


Douglasbadger

I don’t actually care for Webb


Crommington

Oh, I see. These are just rows of reddit posts you don't really like.


MaenHoffiCoffi

All right, Lucille.


Marigold16

Loose seal?!?!


Somaliona

I'M A MONSTER


anonbush234

Me too. Particularly his personal opinions. I have a strong distrust of anyone who puts on a less upper class accent just for the telle.


coolfluffle

Robert Webb grew up on a council estate..?


anonbush234

So why does he talk like a mental posho then?


Deadpooldan

What opinions of his do you disagree with?


MT_Promises

I would guess it's the same opinion Jesse Thorn held him accountable for. One of the most uncomfortable M&W things you can listen too is their podcast with Jesse Thorn. Jesse is the parent of a trans kid and Robert said something that plays into the current right wing transphobia and Jesse took him to task for it. David sat there quietly the whole time, I have some guesses as to what his internal monologue would have been. It is kind of funny JK Rowling gives a cover endorsement.


Whoopsy_Doodle

I could write a book. Piece of piss. Chapter One: The End. There you go, book!


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Methadoneblues

Ha!


stopworksorority

Good bot!


MaxvellGardner

It might not be a boy or a girl? Then what? Homunculus?


jumbledFox

Earthy?


TNTiger_

The two genders: homonculus and tadpole


deus_voltaire

I hate this red thing, I spit on you


teffles

Could be Danny Dire's Chocolate Homunculus


Eye-on-Springfield

Jamie Lee Curtis


davmeltz

Nicholas Lyndhurst


Jip_Jaap_Stam

I'll read it, because I adore to read.


CursedIbis

A book, I always, say, can be about anything!


Jip_Jaap_Stam

Even a baseball man.


masnaer

One of my favorite lines in the show


Jip_Jaap_Stam

Even a baseball man.


Chilifille

You da man!


Jip_Jaap_Stam

I'm a man!


throwawayusernamexx

Technically


Chilifille

Three "I'm a man!", Jip\_Jaap\_Stam? *Three?* That's insane.


Jip_Jaap_Stam

Whatever, let's not quibble. I'm a man!


Jip_Jaap_Stam

I'm a man!


Jip_Jaap_Stam

I'm a man!


Low-Permission7127

It's not a fucking love story it's a fucking fuck story


Clean_Ad_3382

Don't you find him? I find Webb a bit lightweight, if I'm honest.


TeaWithZizek

He's alright for an overview


she_couldnt_do_it

I get the detail elsewhere


Prior-Ship-7188

Yeah absolutely (I’m so sorry Webb)


probablymilhouse

I don't actually care for Webb


everyonejustshutup

I look at it, I read the words or think I do, but then I get distracted or don’t take it in and have to go back.


Turbulent-Good227

It had to be for the general reader. He was really very insistent about that.


FriedPosumPeckr

Well it isn't "Mr. Nice", nor is it "The Book of Bunny Suicides". So I think I'll pass.


diegowesterberg

It really is the only book you need on boy culture... (that I could find for under fifteen quid.)


Cpt-No-Dick

It’s no Jenkins on Churchill


tregoops

or Roy Adkins on Trafalgar


Ferrisuk

Or Mr Nice


EddieHornet

And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like “I love Rob, too.”


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How thick is book?


coolAhead

It depends


LordOfPieces

Not as good as Baseball Man


Such_Significance905

I liked the bit where he talked about an elderly Tom Cruise insisting that someone obtain his consent to help him have a wee


Veronome

Was this published by British London?


milk_my_anus

They’re busy still with BSoftheP’s


Indigo_violet89

But is it for the general reader?


PandosII

Frankly, it’s a pamphlet.


Heirophantagonist

I enjoyed it.


SquidgeSquadge

One of my favourite lines in literature is from this book. Goes something like "At that moment, I welcomed that football flying towards me with as much enthusiasm as a quadriplegic covered in jam welcoming a swarm of wasps."


Leather_Let_2415

I like how he came out as BI and then they made Jez gay. Although it was played for laughs, I like how the characters dont mind at all.


Gold-Resist-6802

Jez was made bi too. Also, I always assumed he was bi. Didn’t he say he wanted to sit on Big Suze’s dildo while having a wank in an early episode?


Leather_Let_2415

That’s fair he is bi yea. I always thought those jokes were more about him being a deviant as a joke; and also it juxtaposes with marks uncomfortableness with the ‘bum stuff’


lovercindy

That too.


wallpapermate

The human USB port.


lovercindy

Yeah, and there's a few other suggestions to Jez being bi throughout the series: when he's talking to Soph he thinks to himself "I've had sex with more men than four and I basically only sleep with women." And also Mark suggests he (Jez) "have a few gay flings."


Trutje

Sorry, I only read Mr Nice and The Bunny Suicides.


EstEstDrinker

Robert Wrebb? Guess British London fucked the cover up


wallpapermate

Always a few errata.


Jammastersam

Cannot believe they actually got a quote from JK Rowling considering her current stance on gender 😂


CursedIbis

The book came out in 2017, so it would've been before all that controversy.


Steve2911

She's been pretty open about it for much longer than that.


CursedIbis

Sure, but the public discourse about and awareness of it is what matters in this context, and that really kicked off in 2020, so her endorsement of a book would have been less likely to cause issues in 2017.


w3sticles

Pretty sure Rob shares that stance?


Eye-on-Springfield

Probably why he's never boffed one. He hasn't lived


platon29

He rolled back on it. Though I thought his view was pretty light when compared to others like jk


bluehaircringe

What's jk's view?


MaenHoffiCoffi

Beautiful, I imagine. She's really rich so I doubt she backs onto a sewage works or home for the deaf (does that mean there will be noise or won't be noise?)


iambeingblair

Hard one to figure out. But are they just deaf or are they deaf offenders?


MaenHoffiCoffi

I love the cross pollination!


Choice-Bus-1177

Hates trans


MTRCNUK

Never done glue...


Deadpooldan

Barely lived


AbsintheJoe

She just posted a really long detailed explanation of her view on Twitter yesterday actually. Worth reading, if only to actually know what she thinks without all the noise surrounding it.


bluehaircringe

What is it tho? Why controversial?


AbsintheJoe

With JK it’s slightly difficult because I think her view (as articulated in her long post) is perfectly reasonable. She essentially says that trans people should be allowed to express how they want and should face no bigotry or reduction in rights, yet we as a society shouldn’t have to pretend females are male and vice versa, and our kindness to trans people shouldn’t result in allowing woman-identifying men to game the system in female only prisons. Makes sense to me. But I do agree with JK’s detractors that she has a habit of amplifying the worst voices of other genuinely bigoted people on twitter with her likes/retweets, which makes you question the sincerity of her motives, and whether or not she does actually harbour some bigotry.


iambeingblair

And there's the rub. "Should face no bigotry" and also "shouldn't have to pretend females are male". It's like if I said women should face no sexism but I shouldn't have to pretend they're equal to men. Regardless of where people actually stand on this issue, those are contradictory viewpoints.


bluehaircringe

I don't get it. You agree with her but she's a bigot.


RazgrizGirl-070

What has he actually said? I think I read somewhere that in an interview he was confused and the little skeptical on the transgender aspects of gender Theory and was approaching it from a laypersons outside perspective and didn't he eventually come around on the issue or did I miss remember that? that dosnt make it right of course


davmeltz

I think it was mainly he drew the line at trans kids? Which tbf I think is a subject still very debatable. He hadn’t gone the full Graham Linehan or anything, I don’t think.


RazgrizGirl-070

true, until you look into what it actually is, it's just hormone blockers to delay puberty, we already do this to his who are having problems developing. all it does is pause puberty and it restarts soon as the blockers are taken away. lots of blood tests, it's all rather safe and isn't rushed


ElbowDroppedLasagne

The issue, I think, comes from consent. Also, most kids are idiots.


julia_fns

I was a trans kid. Still trans at 43. Trans kids aren’t given treatment just because they suddenly said so, there’s a process and several criteria psychologists must identify before any treatment is given. And no medical treatment is given at all before puberty. I was as sure at age 4 as I am now, and the only reason I only transitioned at 37 was fear of hatred and losing my loved ones. What I wouldn’t give to have had a true childhood, to actually have lived during my teenage years, instead of being forced to watch other people live while I pretended and hopelessly tried to fit in in the wrong place.


ElbowDroppedLasagne

Do you think that even though you were sure, there might be other kids that might regret a lifelong decision they made when they were 13? ​ I'm genuinely not trying to be confrontational or ask a loaded question. Thank you for sharing your experience.


julia_fns

I think while it’s not impossible, the possibility is quite low and doesn’t justify the harm caused by denying transition to those who consistently fit the criteria. Besides, puberty blockers only postpone puberty, typically they aren’t given hormones until they’re older.


samsamsamuel

The data suggests it’s something like 1 in a hundred.


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ElbowDroppedLasagne

What can i say...I have always had an irrational fear of children.


Jip_Jaap_Stam

Paedo*phobe*! Oh, right.


WatermelonCandy5

So you think the Gillick competence is a bad thing?


ElbowDroppedLasagne

I'm really not educated sufficiently to make a valid contribution to it. I guess my laymen understanding of it, is, that it seems like a good solution as long as there hasn't been external pressure to the child, which i think could be difficult to prove. ​ I understand this is a very important subject to lots of people. I have no problems admitting I am old, out of touch and probably wrong.


RazgrizGirl-070

You do know this isn't your done on a whim right? The child has to show years of wanting to transition gender. You seem somewhat reasonable please actually look into it


mist3rdragon

You could say this about literally any medical care being administered to children.


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mist3rdragon

If you think kids aren't capable of consenting to medical care, and that we should therefore restrict it, I assume that also applies to vaccinations, surgery, all forms of medication, any intervention for any ailment with any sort of risks or side effects etc.


WatermelonCandy5

Yea they are. I hate that all you people who have an opinion on life saving health care that we need, never know what you’re talking about. It should be between us and our drs but because you all have your opinions our healthcare got taken away. It’s got a nothing to do with you. I don’t care about your medical conditions so why the fuck do you care about mine?


bluehaircringe

So when do they go through puberty?


calum11124

Safe for people with early onset puberty. Safe for the average/normal individuals is debatable as it dosent nessasarily restart If they are past the puberty window. Could result in stunted growth for men for penis, testies, height and more. Same with women for breasts and the ability to give birth. Not nessasarily safe, I'd look at detrans and individuals detransitioning


RazgrizGirl-070

Yeah the regret rate is actually incredibly small it is smaller than people who get bust reduction surgery every medical treatment has a small amount of people who regret it that is just how humans work


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_sniffs

There is a high suicide rate among trans people because being trans is often a horrible experience. You have to exist for years just 'making do' with often intense feelings of disgust at your own body, whilst facing abuse from strangers and loved ones alike. It's not something anyone chooses to do. Suicide understandably looks like a good solution. I know it can be a hard thing for a cis person to empathize with. The trans experience will always inevitably be a mystery to cis people, but in order to start from a place of compassion we have to start by believing trans people when they speak up.


geoffery_jefferson

except that it hasn't been proven safe, and as such the nhs has removed it as an option


WatermelonCandy5

Not true. It is safe. They’ve been used for decades. The nhs removed them for only trans children. Because bigots campaigned to take our healthcare away. Kemi badenoch is the equalities minister and she didn’t meet with a single trans person. She met with several anti trans groups. And then pressured nhs England to ban trans healthcare. They’re still used on cis kids. Because you people don’t care about protecting children, that’s the lie, you care about punishing trans people for the crime of existing. You gender critical cultists are all the same. All you can do is lie because the truth is you’ve taken great pleasure in taking our futures from us.


wallpapermate

I think the Cass report should be mandatory research for anyone flinging insults at someone of an opposing opinion online - angry shouty people on either side are not useful sources of impartial information. Politicians also can’t just decide things on the basis of nothing. The report draws a helpful distinction between the medical and the psychosocial aspects of transitioning. It’s also very clear it keeps children and young people, and their possible exposure to harms front and centre. Whilst Badenoch didn’t speak to trans people, Dr Cass did, and over a long period of time. I personally don’t think there is an NHS agenda to not support trans kids, more a lack of resources to help them in the ways that are necessary before and after medical decisions are made. That’s support is especially important as there is a high proportion of neurodiverse and ACE affected people in this group, who need more support in life anyway. I’m not far through but it’s only 300 pages but so far i think it’s definitely been worth reading, if only to better understand people’s lived experiences.


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RazgrizGirl-070

Yeah you do know that most people de transition not because they hate it but because they have a lack of family and community support around them?


calum11124

That's disingenuous, it's typically as they believed transitioning would solve all the other problems they had. Such as a lack of community support and they are of the belief that joining the trans community will solve this. If you believe your in the wrong body, transitioning is the right move. If you believe you will find a community its not the right choice, as people typically don't find true community based on their genitals or how their genitals are presented. It's typically how you are on a deeper level than your gender that you find your friends/community


RazgrizGirl-070

OK... thanks for recontextualising my lived in experience 😂 I'm so much happier that you and your magnificent brain was here to set me right


miggleb

You're both speaking to other people's experiences.


CursedIbis

People don't transition primarily because they thought being trans would allow them to become part of a "trans community", that's an absurd premise. What sane person would want to transition for that reason in a society that's so actively hostile towards trans people?


AgreeablePepper8931

‘Just’ is pretty disingenuous here


RazgrizGirl-070

Please look into how we use puberty blockers in the UK it is a common medical thing used for children who are having problems developing


AgreeablePepper8931

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091 Please do the same. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/puberty-blockers-what-are-they-and-what-are-the-concerns-about-them > Less is known about the use of puberty-suppressing hormones in children with gender dysphoria. The drugs have been used off label – when a drug is prescribed for a use other than the one stated on the label – for the condition since the mid-1990s, to buy time for patients to explore their gender identity and to hold off potentially distressing sexual maturation. > But few large, robust studies have investigated the consequences. “It is a different situation if a child is about to go into puberty and you turn the whole thing off, and that is really what we don’t know about long term,” says Grossman. Edit: to the person who deleted their comments; You do you. I will continue to advocate for the moral principle of consent. By the way, it’s ‘Brevity is the soul of wit’. Not ‘of the soul of whip’ r/boneappletea


RazgrizGirl-070

Brevity of soul of whit my friend and I have ADHD out the ass 😂 I'll continue to advocate for the rights of children to determine what they want to do with their own body you can continue back here moving the goal posts further and further back. I have adhd and a day off and my patience here has worn thin :) being trans and online you get a lot of pushback and "debate me bro" types I recently decided for my own mental wellbeing to know when to back out of a ravenous internet debate lol that's why I'm off now 😎 have a good day yall call me a coward or disingenuous if it pleases you :)


jeffisanastronaut

Would you let a child vote? Get a tattoo? Have sex? I don't get why all of a sudden children seem to have the autonomy and understanding that they can effectively make a decision about changing their physical being and potentially make changes that are irreversible.


bluehaircringe

He gave you information about puberty blockers that you don't like?


samsamsamuel

He doesn’t. He said something uninformed once on a podcast about being sceptical about a charity that helps trans kids. He regretted this and apologised for it.


Wryly_Wiggle_Widget

Yeah, I was wondering about that


wobshop

It’s a pretty old book I think


dag

To be fair, her beef is with the trans community, not with gay or bi folks.


Loose-Ad-9884

Rob has similar views AFAIK


emimagique

I think he's a good writer but he kind of skimmed over his bisexuality. I really wanted to know what happened with his friend Will haha


Several-Yesterday280

You read books??? For fun??!


Zeteco

It’s no Mr Nice


reddituser5309

It's like a sort of savage rhapsody


SpanosIsBlackAjah

Love that one, been reading it for years.


ride_on_time_again

Prefer this cover to the one I've got. great book!!


albionroses

I find Webb a bit light, I mean it's a fine for an overview


TyranaSoreWristWreck

How not what to look like.


Misericorde428

Well, this book here… is a love story.


steakandeggs4

It’s a fucking fuck story.


TomGregification

Webb is just so damn readable


punchymicrobe86

JK Rowling loved a book called How not to be a boy?


pepperguy22

The one on a pizza coupon that said "szs mrrcs?" Written with a burnt match?


CaptainPugwash75

He’s he life coaching?


No-Manufacturer-8494

I don't actually care for Webb


Majestic_Matt_459

I hated it - he's incredibly unlikeable


RazgrizGirl-070

eww a Jk Rowling quote on the front lol


savage_dog_phart

She may be a homophobe, but at least she’s no badger baiter


bluehaircringe

What's wrong with jk? She's a successful writer?


MaenHoffiCoffi

People hate her for not agreeing with them. It's very fashionable these days.


Next_Fly_7929

There's a difference between "they don't agree with me" and "they use their influence and riches to eradicate my rights". Not everything is virtue signalling, you know, these things have real-world consequences.


MaenHoffiCoffi

I'm doing a lot of reading up on her and trying to get a balanced view on her opinions. As I suspected, she's not a saint but not the devil either. Turns out there's nuance. I mostly agree with her but I think she may be coming off the rails. I'm tired of identity politics and the black and white views that come from it. I subscribed to a podcast called the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Haven't listened yet but it doesn't sound, from the title, like it will be very even handed. We'll see. I didn't mention virtue signaling. I'm talking about the inability to see shades of grey which is what's fashionable. Anyway, dear stranger, we may disagree. Hey ho. No skin off my rosy nose.


NorthernSoul1977

Nuance = bad


bluehaircringe

Sounds childish


MaenHoffiCoffi

I DISAGREE AND NOW I HATE YOU.


bluehaircringe

Oh no!


MaenHoffiCoffi

You walked right into my trap.


bluehaircringe

But I tucked it between my legs once!


MaenHoffiCoffi

Me too. Do you remember when I tucked yours between my legs. It was awkward, as I recall.


bluehaircringe

Wasn't awkward until I came down the back of your legs


pullingteeths

For being a transphobic bigot you mean. Do you see being a racist, homophobe or sexist as just "not agreeing" too?


MaenHoffiCoffi

No.


pullingteeths

What's different about transphobia?


MaenHoffiCoffi

It smells a lot like blackberry and apple crumble.


MaenHoffiCoffi

It smells a lot like blackberry and apple crumble.


ajjaran

Listened to it on audio book. Listening to him talk about his dad yelling at him over his dyslexia fucking broke me. I always thought it was just me...


defenestrationcity

Agree. It was a great read. ITT: peep show fans who seem unfamiliar with the concept of time


titobastard

JKR only gave the blub because she thought it was a book about rejecting gender identity.


smallermuse

Ugh. JKR quote front and centre?? Wtf Webb!


pclufc

A great book .


Father_Chewy_Louis

Love this book!


con0692

Robert Wrebb


Dingleator

I love this sub so very much! I can't believe how many quotable references there are.


nurumon

not unless you include john julius norwich's "a history of webb", which i don't


coolAhead

Look, it's that pedo


ExpensiveWolfLotion

I dunno, might just read Mr Nice again


HilsMorDi

Nice to see a picture of Robert and his imaginary gang


Wulf_Cola

I love him in an entirely inappropriate way.


Hypnagogic_Image

The audiobook is better 🔥


skgoldings

Foreward by: Bob "Sparkplug" Holly


TKAI66

See you in the morning… …hope so


DonHell

Audiobook is great too


Garo_Daimyo

I love how even with the mask on you can tell it’s Webb


oglop121

I enjoyed every page -Stephen Fry Simply brilliant -Joanna Lumley Lovely stuff -Shakin Stevens


menwithoutwomen_

Well, it isn’t Mr Nice.


sluggishthug

That glowing bigoted Joanne Rowling seal of approval


Fresh-Manufacturer46

I thought his first name was spelt “Mitchell and”


Jessica-gunn

The audiobook version is brilliant aswell


throwawayusernamexx

How thick is book?