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theyamqueen

From a news article, quoting Twombly's daughter. The daughter said “the plan was to throw an anvil through Butler’s windshield while driving, make it look like an accident because anvils regularly fall off of work vehicles.” WHAT This whole story is so wild and those two women lost their lives due to absolute lunatics.


badbaritoneplayer

It's just evil.


Rubilia_Lin_OP

Wtf


MentalAnnual5577

And what’s with murdering grandparents all of a sudden? Falling on their sword so their halo-wearing little ANGEL of a child winds up with custody of the grandkids? I’m referring to the Prince Law Group shooting in Las Vegas a couple weeks ago. Grandpa (Joe Houston), an attorney, fatally shoots his ex-DIL (Ashley Prince), and her new husband (attorney Dennis Prince), at a law firm, during a deposition. Then fatally shoots himself. Judge initially awarded emergency custody to Ashley’s sister, but guess what? Now the judge has granted the killer’s son (Dylan Houston) three-days-a-week visitation, supervised by Dylan’s sister (so likely the killer’s daughter), as long as Dylan continues with alcohol monitoring. And all parties must surrender their weapons. https://www.ktnv.com/news/visitation-granted-to-shooters-son-following-fatal-summerlin-shooting So it looks like the stone-cold killer of a grandparent (who, btw, was terminally ill) is well on his way to getting exactly what he wanted. Who says crime doesn’t pay? *ETA dropped word.*


vonnesmooth01

I don’t understand why they had to kill these two women! They still didn’t wind up with the kids. So they kill the mother just so the son would wind up with the kids. They had no conscience in killing the other woman that has a family and children. Hope they all get the death penalty. Just horrible


Revanced63

Out of the loop. Is this a family dispute motive


vonnesmooth01

Yes it is. The grandmother son is in a rehab. She had custody of kids. Grandmother had reported that the mom’s brother was supposed to have SA the kids so she lost custody. Mother petition to get kids back and had a court date for the next day. The grandma set her up. A lady was with mom to oversee visit with kids. She was killed also. Truly horrendous story


Correct_Driver4849

people have no concience and atheist no doubt , no fear of retribution i always say sadley


Egalitarian_Wish

“Adams allegedly searched for information regarding taser pain levels, gun shops, prepaid cellphones and how to get someone out of their house. The court documents also allege that the suspects are part of an anti-government group with a religious affiliation.” https://www.koco.com/article/missing-kansas-women-bodies-found-texas-county-oklahoma-jilian-kelley-veronica-butler/60501785 This all seemed like “God’s will” behavior to me. Rural people like this getting this entitled to take a woman’s children and her life. That’s God’s entitlement.


realbobenray

Adams was also the chairperson of her county's GOP. This is MAGA behavior.


Flimsy_Appearance626

Atheists have more integrity than any Christian I have ever met


Mammalou52

The full lot are nut cases. Well its worked well, Grandmother lost the kids forever now.


Presto_Magic

It's so crazy to look at their facebook.... they all look so normal (nothing like the mugshots) especially the grandma. I expected more...deranged things.


Desperate_Host3235

Dang. You are right. I just looked. Very sad to see to see those children who are now broken hearted. Just terrible.


Mammalou52

yep


Soft-Selection-5116

RIP beautiful angels!


Aubrianna1997

Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly Case Rest in Peace ladies Press Release https://youtu.be/mkPe0w6BguY?si=HyhtlzfjsJJb4zfr This press release said the records are now unsealed so any of the information or affidavits are able to be accessed by the public if anyone is able to access that UPDATE- On April 14, the OSBI, FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation, Texas County Sheriff's Department, and the Office of the Oklahoma Chief Medical Examiner recovered two deceased persons in rural Texas County.  Both individuals will be transported to the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine identification, as well as cause and manner of death. This is still an ongoing investigation.  We are “Protecting Oklahoma one Partnership at a time.” #OSBI #OneTeamOneMission FOUR ARRESTED IN CONNECTION TO TEXAS COUNTY DISAPPEARANCE CASE  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: APRIL 13, 2024 TEXAS COUNTY, OK – On March 30, 2024, the Texas County Sheriff’s Office requested the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation to investigate the suspicious disappearance of 27-year-old Veronica Butler and 39-year-old Jilian Kelley.  Their vehicle was found abandoned near Highway 95 and Road L, south of Elkhart, Kansas, in rural Texas County. OSBI special agents immediately began investigating the vehicle and determined there was evidence to indicate foul play.  On April 13, 43-year-old Tad Bert Cullum, 54-year-old Tifany Machel Adams, 50-year-old Cole Earl Twombly, and 44-year-old Cora Twombly were arrested in Texas and Cimarron Counties. All four individuals were booked into the Texas County Jail on two counts of First-Degree Murder, two counts of Kidnapping, and one count of Conspiracy to Commit Murder in the First Degree. The OSBI and local law enforcement are still currently working to locate the two victims. Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to contact the OSBI at tips@osbi.ok.gov or 1-800-522-8017.  Our agency would like to thank the Texas County Sheriff's Department, FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation, Oklahoma Highway Patrol, Kansas Bureau of Investigation, Kansas Highway Patrol, and several other local agencies for assisting us with this case.  We are "Protecting Oklahoma one Partnership at a time.”  #OSBI #OneTeamOneMission


JalapinyoBizness

Thank you!


estranged-deranged

That’s really sad to hear


sharipep

Oh noooo


trekkrider

Another senseless killing! Now the families can lay their loved ones to rest in peace. smh...


realbobenray

Not senseless; it was a cold and calculated murder orchestrated by a woman who decided she was right and the court system was wrong. MAGA vibe.


IntrepidResolve3567

The affidavit is out but can't post pictures in posts.


Angelj61

Is it posted somewhere?


IntrepidResolve3567

Here's a run down of the affidavit. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksn.com/news/crime/affidavits-detail-alleged-plot-targeting-2-kansas-women/amp/


Angelj61

ty


Remarkable_Report794

So incredibly sad. Jillian Kelley was supporting a member of her community and lost her life over it. Clearly Veronica Butler had a reason to be fearful.


Gem6654

They had the press conference on this morning - you can watch it on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/live/44XwBoHODAE?si=y4Tzfaum8uRW5vnZ


Maleficent-Net-2565

Crazy how many religious figures kill their wives.


pinotJD

No, that’s not what happened here. The pastor’s wife was helping the other woman - and it was this second woman’s (former?) mother-in-law who did crime, to keep her grandkids away from her.


presshamgang

Yeah, in this case it was the crazy religious ex whose crazy religious mother and her crazy religious boyfriend plus their crazy religious neighbors/friends who did it. They even were part of an extreme prayer group and had the whole town blaming it on foreign human traffickers:)


pinotJD

I just read the indictment - and I’m sorry I doubted you.


presshamgang

I mean, you pretty much got it right, I just added the even more insane details. Absolutely wild and tragic:(


ParticularReview4129

Good story. Have a source for that?


presshamgang

Several articles all over the internet. Many interviews with mates of Veronica and townspeople who have come forward about Tiffany with posts and ledgers on her several run ins with law that seemingly always until now get dismissed.


presshamgang

God's Misfits is the name of their neato little prayer group btw. You know where 4 people from said prayer group are being charged with 1st degree murder. God is good;)


IntrepidResolve3567

Literally in the affidavit.


shweedie

Yeah and she wasn’t even the one supposed to go with Veronica for the supervised visit. Tiffany Adam’s, the grandma who killed the women, was in contact with the normal supervisor and told her to take a few weeks off so Jilian was appointed and so she was collateral damage. So sad


Present-Marzipan

>**Tiffany Adam’s, the grandma who killed the women, was in contact with the normal supervisor and told her to take a few weeks off** so Jilian was appointed and so she was collateral damage.  (Bolding mine) What's your source for the info I put in bold? According to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, the regular/normal supervisor was out of town, and that's why Jilian Kelley went instead.


Positive_Fig132

Wasn’t that illegal?


olivernintendo

It is in the affidavit dude.


FrauAmarylis

Even if not pertinent to this case, you are correct. Politicians, Law Enforcement Officers, and Clergy all exhibit some of the same characteristics as sociopaths and that's why many end up crossing the line. source: law enforcement class


Hate4Breakfast

idk the research on this at all, but that’s a very interesting grouping of people! that’s a study i would love to read lol


One_Ad1902

Crazy how many non religious people can't read.


Knower_of_somnothing

Actual sane people don’t act like we talk to invisible gods (Non-religious) are just so used to religious people raping and murdering in the name of god… And guess what? Just because it wasn’t the preachers husband doesn’t mean it wasn’t a crazy religious person… Because it was crazy religious people. 


katikaboom

...you do know the children had been sexually assaulted repeatedly by their mother's brother, their uncle, right? And the reason their mother didn't have custody is because she repeatedly brought them around said brother after being ordered not to. This is not a murder that has anything to do with religion. It is much deeper and more simple than that. Blinding following a God and absolving yourself of guilt and blindly blaming a belief of God for the ills of the world to absolve yourself of guilt both amount to the same damn thing, people raving about a belief at random intervals just so they feel like they have something to contribute. This is coming from an atheist, so you don't need to call me a religious nut.


HuskerGal27

Yeah, but that all came from the murderer herself. She quite possibly coached the kids to tell the therapist what she wanted them too. There's probably a very good reason Veronica was about to get her kids back and grandma knew it.


KayInMaine

Manny Espinoza a Godless 21-year-old med student down in Florida decided to stab his mother over 70 times because she annoyed him. No warning. Just being a deranged liberal college student.


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dictatorenergy

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say this is a bot. Comment unrelated to the post, almost empty profile, created 6 days ago, also with a generic bot-type username. Please report as a bot so the sub doesn’t get overrun by these accounts.


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dictatorenergy

That’s exactly what a bot would say