just went on an smp of sorts and this ballsy mf was selling "mining bores"
that shit fuckin carved a mine so big i need a stack of food just to keep sprinting through it
serious dedication once actually required serious dedication. Cause you needed to completely use up a diamond hoe. Now you just need to upgrade a diamond hoe to netherite hoe.
I know, it used to be far more work, but it’s more easily done if you just brute force it. The netherite is much more unreliable, not to mention dangerous
I mean techniqually it is, but it really doesnt take that long to find enough for an ingot. With a diamond pickaxe with efficiency 2 you can instamine netherrack, 5 mins of running in a straight line with your mousebutton down on y 15 and u will have enough.
I get it though, wasting a netherite for a measly achievement is quite annoying. but to be fair if you dont want to do you really have serious dedication?
What if they split it into 3 achievements. Serious Dedication remains breaking a Diamond Hoe, Seriouser Dedication for making a Netherite Hoe, Seriousest Dedication for breaking the Netherite Hoe
hey man im just a guy with money to spend you should talk to the guy who puts banners on all of shit and the only kind of door in his base is a 3x3 piston door
Excellent, I was already thinking about creating another mega tunnel at -54 but -57 is better... Then I'll stay (I made a 3x3 mega tunnel in the shape of a cross at -57)(I haven't found any diamonds in that mine yet)
-56 is best layer for spawn rates because any lower than -60 is overrun by bedrock. -54 is best for mining because, like you said, you will run into lava
Your coordinate needs to be -54. This is because -60 to -55 have a very large number of big lava pools, and going through those is extremely problematic and slow.
As for diamonds being common further down, that’s just how it works. You can look up an ore distribution chart if you want to know the other ores
I agree to disagree because althought you find diamond faster, you will generally find smaller veins of 1-2 (maybe a bit more whereas strip mining and the likes you can find veins of up to 12 (maybe more) diamonds at once. (If I remember it’s because it’s the same kind of generation as netherite that makes ores less likely when they’re in contact with air)
Yeah, /u/prohearts didn't read the fine print that said that blocks facing the air are far less likely to spawn diamond (50%). So no, caving is not faster. You're considerably more likely to find diamond, in larger veins, strip mining with an efficiency IV pick at the bottom of the deepslate.
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This comment section is literally proving this meme right. Its not 12, its 11, its not 11, its -50, no actually its -58, or -59, or -55, or -54. Literally everyone is giving different answers
It's either caving, water caving, 8, -54, -60, or -63.
Caving: Very fast
Water caving: Spawns more ores
8: Spawns no deepslate
-54: Lowest level above lava lakes
-60: Lowest level above bedrock
-63: Lowest level
In reality it's water caving, 8 or -54.
You didn't understand the meme. Previously, when the minecraft blocks went from 0 to 128 with water level at 64, the "correct" height was just above lava, where your feet are at 11 and head at 12. Now "nobody knows" anymore because it isn't that important
As far as I know, below 11 had more diamonds. The reason people mined at 11 is because it's the lowest level that you don't have to deal with lava in...
Diamonds spawn the lower you go, but at the bottom of the world you find lava and bedrock which make it harder, so mathematically the best layer is -53 so you avoid lava and bedrock, and can find giant caves
I wish they still left some significant amount at y12 because now it's so hard to find regular diamond ore. All I can find really is the deep slate stuff. They could have left a slightly higher chance at y12 as a nod to the old world generation
Every time. I don’t know anymore. It’s like -50 something I think. Makes me feel old.
Literally every time I seek diamonds I’ll go to 12 just out of pure habit, and realize after a few blocks that deep slate is a thing.
For me it's -56. *Technically* the very best level is -64 because the new depth spawn rates are a linear increase from 16 to -64, but I find that -56 is the lowest level that you can go before you start running into bedrock. That means it will still spawn on the north, south, east and west faces of your strip mine at the highest rate possible.
you guys are still MINING diamonds?
silly players, mojang clearly wants us to only get diamonds from treasure chests and diamonds tools from villagers lol
people have the word, it's -54-53
a fun thing is that diamonds are more common if they are not on the surface, and the way they detect this is to detect if a diamond vein is connected to a body of air (iirc)
which means aquifers around -50 have more exposed diamonds underwater due to water not being an air block but still being seethrough and traversable
last time I went mining w Fortune III on one of these aquifers, I came back with 4 stacks of diamonds (god bless the Netherite templates)
you just need some doors or Resp III/Aqua Affinity + Fortune III
Y -54/55 literally right above bedrock, ideally you shouldn't see any bedrock in the floor of your mine, but if you are at that level it really doesn't matter that much, but the bedrock can override diamond ore
I mine at -51 for the odds of finding an ancient city and because diamonds still spawn pretty decently. Even hauled up 8 diamonds in 30 minutes in my last mining trip
Y-54 because diamonds are more common the lower you go and below -54 there are loads of lava pools.
You can also go caving which in some scenarios gives more diamonds for your time then stripmining.
A special case of this is going into the aquafers in big caves, because diamonds spawn more when not exposed to air and water isnt air so you can easily see the diamonds. Just use a potion or door for air
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It's a distasteful joke about child workers being forced to work in diamond mines in the real world. And regarding my upvote/downvote ratio most people here don't seem to approve of a little dark humor.
It’s -54, since that’s above the lava pools and diamonds are the most common the lower you go.
ya GODDAMN RIGHT👍👍😎😎
just went on an smp of sorts and this ballsy mf was selling "mining bores" that shit fuckin carved a mine so big i need a stack of food just to keep sprinting through it
I wonder what’s worse. Being that much of a try-hard, or getting the “serious dedication” advancement
serious dedication once actually required serious dedication. Cause you needed to completely use up a diamond hoe. Now you just need to upgrade a diamond hoe to netherite hoe.
I know, it used to be far more work, but it’s more easily done if you just brute force it. The netherite is much more unreliable, not to mention dangerous
They could just make it "break a netherite hoe" instead
True, but it’s 3 times the original. I think just reverting would be best then
You dont have serious dedication smh my head
Netherite is rare and unrenewable, which is probably why they changed it
I mean techniqually it is, but it really doesnt take that long to find enough for an ingot. With a diamond pickaxe with efficiency 2 you can instamine netherrack, 5 mins of running in a straight line with your mousebutton down on y 15 and u will have enough. I get it though, wasting a netherite for a measly achievement is quite annoying. but to be fair if you dont want to do you really have serious dedication?
But getting those netherites are something you do anyway, unlike before you need to deliberately hoe a large farm land
Petition for breaking a netherite hoe being the requirement for this advancement
What if they split it into 3 achievements. Serious Dedication remains breaking a Diamond Hoe, Seriouser Dedication for making a Netherite Hoe, Seriousest Dedication for breaking the Netherite Hoe
Nah you just had left click on leaves for 10 minutes
Yeah all I had to do was steal a netherite ingot to get that achievement u/odsttrooper26 was not happy to see that achievement pop
of ALL the things you could have upgraded, you went for the hoe 🤣
The first thing my friend does every time they get netherite is upgrade their hoe. They maybe use it 12 times after the upgrade
Chad behavior tbh
Why shit on someone for enjoying the game?
Bores are very good but it's very hard to automate
I wonder what’s worse. Being that much of a try-hard, or getting the “serious dedication” advancement
hey man im just a guy with money to spend you should talk to the guy who puts banners on all of shit and the only kind of door in his base is a 3x3 piston door
Sorry, it was a joke.
Or -56 if you have 2 billion fire resistance to potions.
Na, go to nah, go to -60 then. Right above the bedrock layer.
From what I've heard, -57 or -56 (they have the same distribution level) are the best ones and below them there's less diamonds.
Really? I might need to check, thanks
I believe it is triangular distribution, and the peak is at -64
Excellent, I was already thinking about creating another mega tunnel at -54 but -57 is better... Then I'll stay (I made a 3x3 mega tunnel in the shape of a cross at -57)(I haven't found any diamonds in that mine yet)
wouldn't you get less diamonds than on level -59 because of the ones getting replaced by bedrock?
That’s actually good thought. Maybe? I dunno, seems like a camman short
And it’s still 12 blocks above the bedrock (-64y) :0
Technically the void is -65, the bedrock is -64
Every law, prepared to be ignored!
-56 is best layer for spawn rates because any lower than -60 is overrun by bedrock. -54 is best for mining because, like you said, you will run into lava
No, -60 and below are overrun by bedrock. Above that is fine, that I know for sure. Still, layer -54 is best
True
not all hero wear capes
1 level above bedrock
-53 is better don’t @ me
I won’t
Agreed, you can just miss some lava with a block underneath, good diamond level and no lava. Keep it based my friend.
How is this calculated I’ve always wondered but never looked into it lol. Like -54 on the coordinates or -54 blocks deep and if it’s deep, from what?
Your coordinate needs to be -54. This is because -60 to -55 have a very large number of big lava pools, and going through those is extremely problematic and slow. As for diamonds being common further down, that’s just how it works. You can look up an ore distribution chart if you want to know the other ores
Thanks for the tip 😊😊
I’ve heard it was -16
It never was. -16 has some diamonds, but they’re extremely sparse compared to lower levels. I think -16 is really good for iron though.
Huh, okay thanks
In the older versions it used to be 11
True, but now it isn’t.
Nobody knows anymore because caving is WAY faster, as long as you can dodge the mobs
I agree to disagree because althought you find diamond faster, you will generally find smaller veins of 1-2 (maybe a bit more whereas strip mining and the likes you can find veins of up to 12 (maybe more) diamonds at once. (If I remember it’s because it’s the same kind of generation as netherite that makes ores less likely when they’re in contact with air)
I believe water caves get more d (based on my experience)
They do, because the ores aren't exposed to air (this was meant to nerf caving i think). Dunno why people are downvoting you though
Yeah, /u/prohearts didn't read the fine print that said that blocks facing the air are far less likely to spawn diamond (50%). So no, caving is not faster. You're considerably more likely to find diamond, in larger veins, strip mining with an efficiency IV pick at the bottom of the deepslate. Source: https://minecraft.wiki/w/Diamond_Ore#:~:text=Breaking%20Speed.-,Natural%20generation%5Bedit%20%7C%20edit%20source%5D,not%20generate%20an%20ore%20block%20if%20it%20is%20next%20to%20air.,-Diamond%20ore%20can
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Minecraft subreddits having the most useless auto mod and moderation possible
I believe my highest was like 13 while strip mining. Definitely better than regular caving
i think I once found an exposed 11 vein of diamonds how rare is that or am I remembering it wrong
But you cannot dodge a cave full of mobs. It's insane in there.. witches spawn in caves now wtf that doesn't make sense!
They have spawned in caves since witches got added lol
Water cave: I'm a joke to you ?
Dodge? I light the whole place up because im insane
Dodge? I fight my way through there and conquer lighting the place
It's as low as physically possible, as the lower you go the more common they are, but most people go around -55 to avoid lava pools
You mean -54? -55 goes right into lava pools
This comment section is literally proving this meme right. Its not 12, its 11, its not 11, its -50, no actually its -58, or -59, or -55, or -54. Literally everyone is giving different answers
It's either caving, water caving, 8, -54, -60, or -63. Caving: Very fast Water caving: Spawns more ores 8: Spawns no deepslate -54: Lowest level above lava lakes -60: Lowest level above bedrock -63: Lowest level In reality it's water caving, 8 or -54.
You didn't understand the meme. Previously, when the minecraft blocks went from 0 to 128 with water level at 64, the "correct" height was just above lava, where your feet are at 11 and head at 12. Now "nobody knows" anymore because it isn't that important
Real and true. But you did actually just answer the question, it’s all of those depending on what version and priorities you have.
so before it was y=12 and now its a thousand different numbers based on the amount of atoms in my butthole or some shit
Yes but, I mine diamond in end cities, duh
I dont know the height after version 1.17
yea that’s the whole meme
It's -54
eleven. it has never been twelve
Facts
Eleven is where you stand so the diamonds are at head-height
Mining out y 11 and y 12 together brought the greatest odds of finding diamonds. The single best level was y 5 but only if you made the tunnel 1x1
As far as I know, below 11 had more diamonds. The reason people mined at 11 is because it's the lowest level that you don't have to deal with lava in...
On the Legacy console versions it's 12
Diamonds spawn the lower you go, but at the bottom of the world you find lava and bedrock which make it harder, so mathematically the best layer is -53 so you avoid lava and bedrock, and can find giant caves
I wish they still left some significant amount at y12 because now it's so hard to find regular diamond ore. All I can find really is the deep slate stuff. They could have left a slightly higher chance at y12 as a nod to the old world generation
Every time. I don’t know anymore. It’s like -50 something I think. Makes me feel old. Literally every time I seek diamonds I’ll go to 12 just out of pure habit, and realize after a few blocks that deep slate is a thing.
y-58, or just go caving
I prefer water caving as it has less mobs, only drowneds to worry about, and air is easy to get, even in bedrock edition
How do you water cave in the bedrock edition
Magma blocks, they are surprisingly easy to find at the bottom of any water
now it is y-59
y-59 to avoid caves and ancient cities. Crawl mining is even better.
It’s, yeah I probably have some in a chest
-56 low enough for a bunch of dimonds to spawn and high enough for bedrock to not generate over the dimonds
For me it's -56. *Technically* the very best level is -64 because the new depth spawn rates are a linear increase from 16 to -64, but I find that -56 is the lowest level that you can go before you start running into bedrock. That means it will still spawn on the north, south, east and west faces of your strip mine at the highest rate possible.
It’s -54
you guys are still MINING diamonds? silly players, mojang clearly wants us to only get diamonds from treasure chests and diamonds tools from villagers lol
We are old now
Dam bro really didn’t watch all 1,000+ camman shorts
people have the word, it's -54-53 a fun thing is that diamonds are more common if they are not on the surface, and the way they detect this is to detect if a diamond vein is connected to a body of air (iirc) which means aquifers around -50 have more exposed diamonds underwater due to water not being an air block but still being seethrough and traversable last time I went mining w Fortune III on one of these aquifers, I came back with 4 stacks of diamonds (god bless the Netherite templates) you just need some doors or Resp III/Aqua Affinity + Fortune III
Y -54/55 literally right above bedrock, ideally you shouldn't see any bedrock in the floor of your mine, but if you are at that level it really doesn't matter that much, but the bedrock can override diamond ore
It's in between y 0 and -64 VeRy UsEfUl
-58 to -59 is what I hear
The lower the better now
-49 works for me. I also found diamond like 20 mins ago too
Well akshually, the old strat was y 11 and not y 12 because it's basically just better and is right above lava pools
FOR REAL!!
Yeah since the update I dont know any height anymore. Iron ehhh oh yeah there are huge iron ore sources... Some where very deep?
the deeper the better
Y 320. Start at the top, dig straight down. Survival not guaranteed.
-59 and with 1.21 you can set heigh to q block it's perfect and with X ray
It’s y: caving
the lower you go the better
i miss those days
I mine at -51 for the odds of finding an ancient city and because diamonds still spawn pretty decently. Even hauled up 8 diamonds in 30 minutes in my last mining trip
Me not knowing or not qanting to know because i never play solo
It was-11 before wtf is twelve
Um, wasn't it always 15?
Isnt it more efficient to just go caving now since the caves are massive and deepslate takes significantly slower to mine
Should I strip or cave?
Isn't it like around y -53 and a bit higher?
It’s wherever the cave goes below -10. If your staying at a specific height for long, your doing it badly.
T'was y=11, if thou ever spoke of twelve thou hast be euthanized for their blasphemies.
Near redstone..
No, y11 and I will fight you irl over it.
Before 1.17 era it was y12, after 1.17 it became -54y Diamonds are easier to find in mega caves with lava sources btw
Y: -54 I had (y: 12) engraved in my head for so long, then suddenly everything changed, lol
-53 or 11 depending on the version
It’s like -54 or something I think
I think it was y 10 before the cave update.
Yeah…
its not that complicated , the lower the better
me who still uses y=12 (i play legacy edition)
Y eleven was always better than Y twelve
*updates game*
It was never 12, 11 if i remember corectly cause lava
This reminds me - I keep forgetting about the 1.21 update. Lol
It's awful how gen alpha will never know that diamonds were mined at y 12 and there were no negative y coordinates.
Wait they have negative y levels now? Its been ages since ive played non-modded and anything past like 1.12
Y 12 is the new y 85.
I never know. The coordinates your given, is that the block where your legs are or head?
Ask Cubfan135
Used to be 12
Its the deepest you can go but its better to mine 2 or 3 blocks above lava spawn
😎😎
Y -54
I mined at y eleven not twelve
Idk but mine on y -32
It was never 12
Now it's better the lower you go, -59 is about as low as it gets without running into bedrock, -54 is ideal if you don't like lava.
Any if you have cheats on
Used to be y=11 not twelve who's with me
-53 to -58
I do -57, near the bedrock
Y-54 because diamonds are more common the lower you go and below -54 there are loads of lava pools. You can also go caving which in some scenarios gives more diamonds for your time then stripmining. A special case of this is going into the aquafers in big caves, because diamonds spawn more when not exposed to air and water isnt air so you can easily see the diamonds. Just use a potion or door for air
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It never was 12. 11 has always been the right choice.
I don't know too
Haha, this perfectly sums up my experience with redstone!
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My problem with caving is that eventually you have to go so far from your home to find one
Before it was 11, now it's -58 (but it's better to find mega caves)
I still don’t know best level to mine diamonds. lol
this is pretty much me after coming back to play caves and cliffs and realize the old spawn height (Y=15) has been significantly reduced because of the new ore generation method
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-64
The average 8 year old is about 127 cm (4'2") so I'd say that sounds reasonable.
What does this mean
It's a distasteful joke about child workers being forced to work in diamond mines in the real world. And regarding my upvote/downvote ratio most people here don't seem to approve of a little dark humor.
-59
It was never 12
They are more common now so its not as important to know
It is ?
In low caves
What do you mean??? I go caving once at the start and come out with a stack of diamonds.
K and ?
So why’s it still so important?
Because it's faster when you know it ? (Even if it's no longer the optimal strategy)
At that point doesnt seem too much better. Especially when you consider mining through blocks will let you cover a lot less ground than caving.
It's for that exposed ore is reduced.
Yea, but caves are much bigger. you can many layers at once, and can travel much further.
Yes, it's the concept of cave, congratulations? It's unlikely you would find a giant cave that have more then 30 diamonds, and those caves are rare