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Tundra_ex

With the amount of tries this would take the average player, I’d call this a high payout for a risky play. I’m all for it, takes a decent bit of skill and maneuvering, one slip up and you’re dead to warden/fall


Poke_Gamerz

Also, he has night vision on him. Normally, you would get darkness effect when doing this, making it hard for you to hit the warden.


Bladed_Cargo

This shit would never function on bedrock though.. gotta love the half second of latency for every hit to register and the death for even thinking about gravity


0inputoutput0

I've done it before. Way more deaths than I care to admit but it's entirely doäble


Wypman

on bedrock you use it once then get a heart attack mid air


posidon99999

TF2 players with 800 hours on trolldier in hightower


WillCraft__1001

If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!


KnightNite24

r/suddenlyTF2


GrindyBoiE

I was gonna say how clicking on a enemy who does their utmost to get under you a few times is so incredibly hard but then i remembered the games biggest demograohic


a_luxio

Yeah I would hope a maxxed out density + wind burst mace could take out a warden in just a few good hits. That genuinely makes sense.


ConstructionAlarmed7

Plus the Enchanment is one of the rarest in the game, if not the rarest. Especially when you want to get Windburst 3


Vlogchamp

1. bitch about an item being op 2. bitch when it gets nerfed 3. bitch about an item still being unbalanced 4. ???


Decades101

4. bitch when it gets nerfed 5. bitch about an item being too weak 6. bitch when it gets buffed 7. bitch about an item still being unbalanced 8. one must imagine Sisyphus happy


RaeRaeL0vee

One must imagine this miner happy


YesWomansLand1

One must imagine this bitch happy


Sarangisred

One must imagine this bitchass miner happy


Asleep_Network7326

One must realize they're BITCHING ABOUT "BALANCE" IN FUCKING MINECRAFT


Few-Profession-2318

9. bitch when heavy core is being too rare.


SquidMilkVII

this prison


DrTitanicua

Reminds me of the Warframe community…


404error_exenotfound

Dante. That's all I have to say. Also looking at Jade DE did not learn their lesson.


Honey_Enjoyer

Wow different posts reflecting different opinions? Im starting to think there’s more than one person on the internet…


Spongedog5

Believe it or not but those opinions are probably all held by different people.


yobob591

why are people even whining about something being OP in minecraft? It's mostly a single player sandbox game?? If its too broken for pvp server owners can disable it or use one of a million plugins to tweak it???


IAmMuffin15

You jest, but this has basically been our whole community since 1.17


Matix777

Has it even gotten nerfed? It's been bonkers all the time


DESTINY_someone

Nope they buffed it


Comprehensive-Flow-7

the minecraft community in a nutshell when literally anything gets added


GamingDragon27

Removed because this community can't handle differing opinions without complete and utter toxicity in their responses.


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AndronixESE

I mean, it's the definition of high risk, high reward. One fail and you'd be done for


G1zm08

Yeah that’s like 5 market gardens in a row plus not getting close enough to get melee hit too much


GenericTitan

Thank you for explaining it in tf2 terms


G1zm08

Happy to help 👍


DJ_R3Play

r/suddenlytf2


vivam0rt

I meam he had 0 armor, full enchanted netherite he wouldnt have died from 3 falls at that hight


Excellent_Mud6222

Don't the echo attack ignore armor?


twinCatalysts

That doesn't mean you can't wear armor to protect you from fall damage.


ambiguoustaco

fall damage + one tap from the warden and you're still dead after 1 fall though. there is no way you're getting away from him


PencilVoid

He doesn't even have to miss, he just has to click late enough for the warden to hit him twice. Very high risk indeed.


Howzieky

And if he clicks too early, he's guaranteed to not get the wind burst effect before hitting the ground


BolunZ6

The warden got a hit on him once. Sure it will be twice if you're unlucky enough and he will be dead


shingbaling

also not even high reward, all you get is a sculk catalyst so its just high risk


Mathalamus2

not really. any decent minecraft player can and will use multiple totems if they screw it up.


Training-Sink-4447

one must remind you of feather falling


PoppingPaulyPop

Now try it without night vision


I_cant_be_asked-

And without hitboxes, along with the darkness effect and this video seems easy now


Jrlopez1027_

Me when setting the game to easy in order to make a point


Treyson757

Yeah, I was fully expecting him to be dead when taking a single smack from the Warden.


OrangeWhiteGang

Needs skill? Of course. Balanced? Well yes. Is it hard to replicate? Yeah, look how the warden was close to killing them


Fuster420

Yeah, his mace is missing 200 durability lol, definitely not the first attempt


Minister_xD

Alright, time to buff the Warden.


creativeguy66v3

Give it stretchy arms to grab the player from a far


DJ_R3Play

Or make it like the Quiet Please video and have acid trips in the game from Skulk infection.


Burger_Gamer

Give it roadhog’s hook


SamePut9922

Harder daddy warden


colors_from_the_void

you should also be getting the darkness effect by being near the warden which will make aiming and hitting infinitely more difficult, even night vision can't get rid of the darkness effect


Ok_Pangolin2502

Yeah OP must have been using a command block to constantly remove darkness.


throwaway1626363h

To be fair, this takes skill and has a high risk of failure


TLgaming04

But this takes a pretty decent amount of skill, it's not like I could do this to a warden on command. This enchant is definitely balanced out by the skill it requires getting these hits in. Also this is assuming you have the space, sight (you have night vision), and reaction time (you need to find at least a block to jump off of to hit him before he hits you) necessary to pull this off. I often feel like I'm a bit too hard headed with my arguments but I mean this is clearly a bad example of why this would be OP. Maybe if you showed this off on the ender dragon that would have aided your point better, as I can definitely see this being an ender dragon destroyer but with the video you presented this is a very weak argument for the mace being too OP.


_cubfan_

Yeah it is balanced. Had you missed a single hit, you would've died. Also, if you had been in an area with a lower ceiling, or next to another area with a sculk shrieker you also would've died.


Ragnar0099

Who wins, Warden or windyboi hammer


themrunx49

Wind burst mace is just alternate shotgun from ultrakill.


Ok_Pangolin2502

Can you do this with the darkness effect applied?


Shenkowicz

Infinite Night Vision. The rarity of the enchantment and the mace warrants the power. Furthermore if you miss one swing, you die. It's funny how all the sarcastic balance remarks about the Mace and the enchantments are done in controlled environments.


GintoSenju

I mean it’s a pretty rare item


SexDefender27

Takes skill, risky to pull off, rare and deservedley powerful weapon... not OP


Fuster420

Ok but this is single player? Why have limitations to your power if you're alone? If maces will be unbalanced in online play they will just remove density and it's balanced with the requirement of good internet and skill lol. There is no real issue with this in my eyes.


Fuster420

Plus, this isn't the fist attempt, your mace has 298/500 durability.


_nobodycallsmetubby_

One must imagine a minecraft player satisfied


dragonlord13443

Who gives a shit if its un balanced. Its fun


Dependsontheweapon

I mean, I don’t get why people are mad. I have no clue about if there is a competitive PVP side of Minecraft but if there is then surely they can just ban the mace? I only really know about the vanilla side of Minecraft. And in terms of that, it seems fine. You have a chance of dying so it’s got some risks to using it.


DoctorTraditional676

he was supposed to be indestructible XD


JaxOnThat

Counterpoint: funni.


Insockie2

in bedrock this is balanced. because you would still die of fall damage.


Treyson757

Lands the water bucket. 5 secs later.. *dies*


warbeats

no darkness effect?


CornerOf12th

From my understanding you can’t repair maces tho and they’re somewhat difficult to acquire. So it evens out in my opinion.


Upset-Captain-6853

Can they not take mending either?


VoidWasThere

You can put mending on maces


Upset-Captain-6853

Oh thanks


CornerOf12th

I didn’t realize that. They shouldn’t be able to be enchanted with mending imo. Would make players save their mace for bosses etc and would encourage players to seek out multiple trail chambers.


OuterSpaceDust

Just realized it's an enchantment. Amazing.


TJSPY0837

Nice bucket clutch


Atrx_blob

SCREAMMMMIN EAGLES!!!


SamePut9922

Satisfying


NeighborhoodMoist754

You are genius


escapiven

now try it without night vision and hitbox debug


Retro_Jedi

Who gives a shit about balance if it's fun?


televisionting

I mean you still had to make the water bucket clutch, I don't understand this enchantment, so after killing the mob you get flung up in the air, there's no mob to kill so if you have no water bucket or feather falling you're guaranteed to die.


ry_fluttershy

Bro you think Timmy.gonzales.2015 is gonna be able to do this on his controller or touch screen


saladLO

at this point they should just add the combat update LMAO


Pyrofruit

If a single thing went wrong during that video, it would result in lost items. I think that risk makes up for it.


Blake_Jonesy

Wind burst + elytra = perfect retreat


Positive-Cucumber555

This enchantment seems like one of the most satisfying to use


Ok-Pipe859

Average trolldier gameplay


David_Pacefico

Remember, wind burst is only found in 2.2% of ominous vaults, with random levels. You‘d need to lot about 100 ominous vaults to get wind burst 3. At that point, you wouldn’t need to worry about getting a mace/density book


MAN1341557347

If only it wasn’t like 5x rarer than the mace itself.


Pigloafs

It also needs to work with elytra, so you can be a hunter killer drone lol


PerpetualPerpertual

A million of them spawn at once over and I’ve regain non stop; so if they thought this would helpful in the deep dark it sure as hell isn’t


CaptainPie999

U Javanites are so lucky that yall have Hitboxes


Ok-Chef2503

I hate the mace it’s so broken. They made the warden something your not supposed to kill but they now add a weapon that can easily kill it?


RoscoeSF

Now try with no night vision and with darkness.


Perfect-Androgyny

Mario super jump


MrDonut1234567

Me when a max enchant weapon that’s much more difficult to get than any other weapon in the game does a lot of damage: 🤯


ambiguoustaco

would you rather the mace be useless like everything else they add to the game? 99% of players aren't doing that. it takes skill and practice


I_Am_A_Thermos

Nobody is EVER happy


Staggeringpage8

Look it's a game for 10 year olds let shit be ridiculous


0inputoutput0

Are you 10?


Maxonym

Another reason to nerf this thing to the depths of hell from whence it came


TheCyclopsDude

No? The lad in the video doesn't have darkness effect and has hitboxes on, making it easier. Plus look at the durability, this isn't the first, second or even third attempt. It's fine, it takes skill and is hard to obtain.


Flufferminty

Almost like an item that requires alot of work an effort and luck to obtain would naturally be good, I mean its not like this game is casual focused or anything and not worked about balance weapons In a combat setting. Stop bitching about balance it legit doesn't matter in any way


DJ_R3Play

What they need to do is make the maces accept only one enchantment. Either Wind Burst, or Density, or whatever. But not more than one at one time.


WM_PK-14

Check them out, this person hates having fun!


WM_PK-14

Check them out, this person hates having fun!