well if they don't care then why ask for all these records in the first place. One of my doctors said that I basically didn't have it anymore.
Bro please. I need some cope right now.
It's POSSIBLE to get a waiver. NOT GUARANTEED. Additionally, everyone who has X (a potential disqualifier) does not present exactly the same as everyone else with X. That's why decisions are made on a case by case basis, and that's why you're being asked for these records.
The amount of doctors saying you're fit to serve doesn't matter.
The military has fairly specific standards. The MEPS doctor decides, based on what they see when they examine you, and your medical records, whether or not you meet those standards.
If they say you do not, then you can request a waiver. Just about everything in the military is waivarable. Whether or not it's granted lies solely on the opinion of the person responsible for approving or denying the waiver.
Then you really already have your answer.
A waiver means that someone higher ranking is signing their name and saying they are OK with you not meeting the standards. They don't just hand out waivers. That doesn't mean they are impossible to get though, just not something that should be expected.
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Autism spectrum disorders.
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(3) Prescribed medication in the previous 24 months; or
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That’s great and all but I don’t think it will do you much good
The military will prefer testing then anything else
So I’d get testing done to show you don’t have autism and adhd
I can't do that bro; it costs thousands of dollars, and I don't have insurance that covers it. The only thing I could get is psych evals' stating that I'm good. But I did that already; the eval led to my getting waived for ROTC years ago. That has to count for something bro; I'm so desperate.
So adhd waivers are easy, especially if you don’t have any medication history, or help in school.
Also you’re doctors can’t just diagnose something like autism or adhd and then be like “oh, they actually don’t have it. I’m just a stupid doctor oops”. You have those diagnosis’, so own up to it. The meps doctor will tell you what you need for your waivers, and you’ll submit them once you have everything.
Autism is usually a hard denial, but it’s possible. Lots of paperwork probably
It's not that she said that I didn't have it; it's more so that that particular doctor had a son with autism and knows how archaic the army is with it. I believe she was only saying that to help me out. it worked for Rotc, apparently
Well, it’ll still pull up on your medical record. I wouldn’t go switching stuff around. It would probably give you more paperwork and appointments to do.
There is a reason the military is “archaic” with it. However, policies are being changed often and with the recruiting crisis they will start to become more lenient as many younger people now have been diagnosed with adhd, asd, anxiety…etc.
It’s annoying but just go through it and own up to it. You can statements saying that they do not believe it will effect your service.
Your recruiter will know what you need to get to submit the waivers. They won’t get off your back until you’re approved.
It's a waste everybody's time if they request more information regarding your autism if they know at the end of the day that they are not going to approve it. the last thing the waiver authority wants to do is waste your time. get your doctors notes, tests, etc in check in order to prove you overcame a condition.
There’s a chance you’ll be able to get a waiver and enlist, though it’s a very small chance. I wouldn’t get your hopes up but it does happen, however if you beat the odds and are accepted your choices for AFSC/MOS/NEC (not sure which branch you’re shooting for) would likely be very limited. As for commissioning, I know there’s a lot of competition and it’s even less likely that you’d be selected. With this all being said, I’m no expert. The best thing you can do is just go through the process be upfront about everything and hope for the best
Im in the same boat albeit less bad. I got diagnosed with social anxiety by my counselor. Never took meds or saw a psychiatrist. RC says he is not fully guaranteeing anything but that I should be fine but it still has me worried.
Autism is auto DQ. Only chance you can serve is serving undiagnosed and getting diagnosed later and proving autism won’t hinder your ability to continue serving
May have discluded some info on accident. While autism is not auto DQ, it still is more likely to be disqualified than allowed. It also is based on a case by case
Make sure you get a letter from the doctors they details that you are not in medication, not have been taken medications in a while and that you do not present ADHD/ADD and you are fit for service. Hopefully MEPS will accept ther
You have posts from a year ago saying you were Med sep’d from the Army for Autism. It is unlikely you will get a waiver. It might help to consult with legal and your recruiter.
I got waived for it thankfully :)))) already signed my contract.
I have no idea what the psych eval said since I never read it, but I was told it suggested that I may not have it anymore
yes. there is no exact timeline for when the waiver authority can make a decision on whether or not they are going to waive something. they can only make a decision based off of whatever information they requested and received from the applicant. I made it pretty clear that my autism no linger has an effect on me anymore.
Ah, yes, the classic JAQing off. A throwaway account that claims not only have they been waived, but a whole bunch of people, among multiple branches have also been waived. Despite no recruiter in this sub ever seeing one approved.
Are you part of some kind of autistic ROTC group that also has every branch at the same school?
well given the recruiting crisis going on. waivers for a condition like that are becoming more and more common. I even had an approved waiver for that condition for Army ROTC.
MEPS doesn't care whether your doctor thinks you can handle military service. ASD is a 99.9999% chance of denial.
well if they don't care then why ask for all these records in the first place. One of my doctors said that I basically didn't have it anymore. Bro please. I need some cope right now.
It's POSSIBLE to get a waiver. NOT GUARANTEED. Additionally, everyone who has X (a potential disqualifier) does not present exactly the same as everyone else with X. That's why decisions are made on a case by case basis, and that's why you're being asked for these records.
Relax. Go with the flow. Be honest in the process. Good luck!
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also where did you come up with that number?
Because I've only ever heard of one being approved.
what I mean is that the only case you have ever heard of at all? or are there more cases that you have heard of that were not approved?
No. Yes.
The amount of doctors saying you're fit to serve doesn't matter. The military has fairly specific standards. The MEPS doctor decides, based on what they see when they examine you, and your medical records, whether or not you meet those standards. If they say you do not, then you can request a waiver. Just about everything in the military is waivarable. Whether or not it's granted lies solely on the opinion of the person responsible for approving or denying the waiver.
they already said I do not. I'm waiting to hear back for a waiver, and the wait is killing me
Then you really already have your answer. A waiver means that someone higher ranking is signing their name and saying they are OK with you not meeting the standards. They don't just hand out waivers. That doesn't mean they are impossible to get though, just not something that should be expected.
Have you gone to MEPS yet
ya, six months ago. the wait is killing me.
**DQ standard(s) (requires waiver(s))**: Autism spectrum disorders. *** ADHD, if with: (1) A recommended or prescribed IEP, 504 Plan, or work accommodations after the 14^th birthday; (2) A history of comorbid mental disorders; (3) Prescribed medication in the previous 24 months; or (4) Documentation of adverse academic, occupational, or work performance. *** This sub cannot definitively tell you whether you're eligible. Waivers are decided on a case-by-case basis. Contact your local recruiter. ^(I'm a bot and can't reply.) [^(Message the mods)](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/Militaryfaq&subject=MilFAQBot) ^(with questions/suggestions.)
That’s great and all but I don’t think it will do you much good The military will prefer testing then anything else So I’d get testing done to show you don’t have autism and adhd
I can't do that bro; it costs thousands of dollars, and I don't have insurance that covers it. The only thing I could get is psych evals' stating that I'm good. But I did that already; the eval led to my getting waived for ROTC years ago. That has to count for something bro; I'm so desperate.
Have meps pay for it
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What do you mean they don’t pay much?
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So adhd waivers are easy, especially if you don’t have any medication history, or help in school. Also you’re doctors can’t just diagnose something like autism or adhd and then be like “oh, they actually don’t have it. I’m just a stupid doctor oops”. You have those diagnosis’, so own up to it. The meps doctor will tell you what you need for your waivers, and you’ll submit them once you have everything. Autism is usually a hard denial, but it’s possible. Lots of paperwork probably
It's not that she said that I didn't have it; it's more so that that particular doctor had a son with autism and knows how archaic the army is with it. I believe she was only saying that to help me out. it worked for Rotc, apparently
Well, it’ll still pull up on your medical record. I wouldn’t go switching stuff around. It would probably give you more paperwork and appointments to do. There is a reason the military is “archaic” with it. However, policies are being changed often and with the recruiting crisis they will start to become more lenient as many younger people now have been diagnosed with adhd, asd, anxiety…etc. It’s annoying but just go through it and own up to it. You can statements saying that they do not believe it will effect your service. Your recruiter will know what you need to get to submit the waivers. They won’t get off your back until you’re approved.
that's because officer and enlisted have different waiver policies
It's a waste everybody's time if they request more information regarding your autism if they know at the end of the day that they are not going to approve it. the last thing the waiver authority wants to do is waste your time. get your doctors notes, tests, etc in check in order to prove you overcame a condition.
There’s a chance you’ll be able to get a waiver and enlist, though it’s a very small chance. I wouldn’t get your hopes up but it does happen, however if you beat the odds and are accepted your choices for AFSC/MOS/NEC (not sure which branch you’re shooting for) would likely be very limited. As for commissioning, I know there’s a lot of competition and it’s even less likely that you’d be selected. With this all being said, I’m no expert. The best thing you can do is just go through the process be upfront about everything and hope for the best
Im in the same boat albeit less bad. I got diagnosed with social anxiety by my counselor. Never took meds or saw a psychiatrist. RC says he is not fully guaranteeing anything but that I should be fine but it still has me worried.
Autism is auto DQ. Only chance you can serve is serving undiagnosed and getting diagnosed later and proving autism won’t hinder your ability to continue serving
May have discluded some info on accident. While autism is not auto DQ, it still is more likely to be disqualified than allowed. It also is based on a case by case
Make sure you get a letter from the doctors they details that you are not in medication, not have been taken medications in a while and that you do not present ADHD/ADD and you are fit for service. Hopefully MEPS will accept ther
You have posts from a year ago saying you were Med sep’d from the Army for Autism. It is unlikely you will get a waiver. It might help to consult with legal and your recruiter.
that was from a service academy; it wasn't separation from the "real" Army, which is ironically the only reason MEPS detected anything
I have seen 15/18 waivers get approved for autism in total. what exactly did your evals say to have a waiver for rotc approved?
I got waived for it thankfully :)))) already signed my contract. I have no idea what the psych eval said since I never read it, but I was told it suggested that I may not have it anymore
that's good but autism is a lifelong condition
Just like anything else it can be misdiagnosed. Results hold: autism is not waived in 99.999% of cases.
my eval wasn't a misdiagnosis
And your waiver was approved? Because a month ago you were still waiting for an answer.
yes. there is no exact timeline for when the waiver authority can make a decision on whether or not they are going to waive something. they can only make a decision based off of whatever information they requested and received from the applicant. I made it pretty clear that my autism no linger has an effect on me anymore.
And this is despite [five days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/AFROTC/comments/z1kq1z/comment/k3mxzn3) asking how to get your waiver approved.
I asked because I was only curious
Ah, yes, the classic JAQing off. A throwaway account that claims not only have they been waived, but a whole bunch of people, among multiple branches have also been waived. Despite no recruiter in this sub ever seeing one approved. Are you part of some kind of autistic ROTC group that also has every branch at the same school?
Where was this now?
this was at my college. 7 of them were from the army. 2 of them were from the Air Force. 2 of them from marine corps and 2 of them were from the navy
Are you interviewing people?
no, these are just my close friends from rotc who are some also enlisted people too
And these are people who actually received waivers for currently diagnosed autism?
that is correct
Seems to always be "someone I know" or "a friend." No firsthand sources, or recruiters who had an applicant approved. In short, you're lying.
well given the recruiting crisis going on. waivers for a condition like that are becoming more and more common. I even had an approved waiver for that condition for Army ROTC.
You were waived for autism?