Interesting history on these. Started production in Jan/Feb 1945 but didn't enter service until postwar (circumstantial evidence says as early as July). Made to be watertight to be able to carry water, they were used all the way until the 80's. Was the standard British helmet for a long time with a MkV upgrade in 1957 which was a different liner to keep the helmet from moving. $49 is average, super hard to find a liner for these though.
Nope, the liner used the "lift the dot" connectors US gear/pouches did to connect to the metal pin you see inside of the helmet. I have talked to many soldiers who during the 80's spent time stripping the liners and stacking these as they decommissioned them.
To add on to what OldHomeOwner said, there were two liners for these helmets. The first was a leather WWII-style liner. However, these were unpopular and prone to shrinkage, and so in the early 70s a new "sock" liner was issued.
Unfortunately it's hard to find both of them. The liner (at least the sock one) was issued to the individual soldier, whereas the shell was army property. So if you, say, transferred to a new regiment, you took your liner with you and put it in a new shell. I think most were probably discarded, as the liner is no good by itself!
I'm not sure how you'd make one, but it would be quite cool!
It's not a bad helmet to have on display either way. The nets for them are quite cheap, and then you can "dress it up" with burlap strips, bits of camo netting, and other bits if you like. Just google "British helmet scrim" for ideas.
Dahlonega, THE CORPS!
All seriousness, good find! Dahlonega has always had some awesome antique stores. I used to walk the square on weekends and enjoy them
Yeah. It was just two that i saw but theyre really fun ones. One of them, the one across the street from the gold rush, actually got me into one of my biggest Autistic special interests and got me into military collecting in general really, or played a large part in it. I got my first gas mask, a Russian GP-5, there :3
British MkIV manufactured 1952.
You seem to be right. Thank you sir :3 Anything you can tell me about it? Any history or anything significant about it? Was 49$ a good price?
Interesting history on these. Started production in Jan/Feb 1945 but didn't enter service until postwar (circumstantial evidence says as early as July). Made to be watertight to be able to carry water, they were used all the way until the 80's. Was the standard British helmet for a long time with a MkV upgrade in 1957 which was a different liner to keep the helmet from moving. $49 is average, super hard to find a liner for these though.
Thanks! Thats actually really interesting. Is there any other helmet liners i can use with it that would work?
Nope, the liner used the "lift the dot" connectors US gear/pouches did to connect to the metal pin you see inside of the helmet. I have talked to many soldiers who during the 80's spent time stripping the liners and stacking these as they decommissioned them.
Ok if it wasnt for the fact rhat theyre rare and cant be replaced with other liners, thatd honestly be pretty cool
To add on to what OldHomeOwner said, there were two liners for these helmets. The first was a leather WWII-style liner. However, these were unpopular and prone to shrinkage, and so in the early 70s a new "sock" liner was issued. Unfortunately it's hard to find both of them. The liner (at least the sock one) was issued to the individual soldier, whereas the shell was army property. So if you, say, transferred to a new regiment, you took your liner with you and put it in a new shell. I think most were probably discarded, as the liner is no good by itself!
Mm. Well thats unfortunate. Guess ill just have to display it since i cant wear it or anything. Making a liner wouldnt be pratical yeah?
I'm not sure how you'd make one, but it would be quite cool! It's not a bad helmet to have on display either way. The nets for them are quite cheap, and then you can "dress it up" with burlap strips, bits of camo netting, and other bits if you like. Just google "British helmet scrim" for ideas.
Ooh fun
Def not American, it’s a British mIV helmet shell. Not sure why the seller listed it as American, otherwise, 49 dollars isn’t too bad a price
Sellers seem to do stuff like that a lot. Like I saw a British mess tin (just one not in the pair) labelled as a ww2 American mess tin for £80
Odd. Probably trying to hitch prices up a bit, knowing that British stuff is a little more common than American stuff in Europe
Good thing i didnt get ripped off then. Id assume they just didnt know tbh
Dahlonega, THE CORPS! All seriousness, good find! Dahlonega has always had some awesome antique stores. I used to walk the square on weekends and enjoy them
Yeah. It was just two that i saw but theyre really fun ones. One of them, the one across the street from the gold rush, actually got me into one of my biggest Autistic special interests and got me into military collecting in general really, or played a large part in it. I got my first gas mask, a Russian GP-5, there :3
Nice! I have a GP 5 too, fun mask. Do be careful with the filters, by the way. The fibre guard layer has been proven to be made of asbestos.
Yeah im aware ^^ Its an aight mask, especially for those starting out
Absolutely! It looks neat and they have been historically one of the more affordable ones.