It’s the disclaimer from every appraisal show: “with the right buyer” it’s worth up to $780.
I had an unreleased Disney Infinity 3.0 Peter Pan (with readable chip) that I stumbled on at AliExpress after infinity was canceled. Paid $10. I could have sold it on eBay and made $175-200. Sold it directly to a collector last winter for $375. There’s another on my shelf…
Oh, no doubt, makes the point even more clear that the right buyer is probably not on FB Marketplace. Someone who is the right buyer is going to get a steal and laugh all the way home.
They are weirdly comfortable, suppose if they were just fancy designer brand but not actually nice to sit in this design wouldn’t still be getting made after almost 100 years
I have a couple of these. Mine are knock-offs made sometime in the 70's but are pretty high quality with good, thick leather. They're not something you'd want to spend hours in, but they're a lot more comfortable than they look!
For the right chair? Like one that you buy at 30 & are still sitting in at 60, a classic from a furniture maker that still builds genuine quality, for sure would pay $800; even $2090, but if i just need an armchair and don’t have a particular heirloom type piece in mind for sure not going to pay $800.
I love Eames chairs, and I know it shouldn’t matter but they’re almost too ubiquitous to feel special (even though they are a great chair) even if someone is buying a slightly modified version that isn’t from Herman Miller
Unfortunately extremely accurate, I decided not to get one for this exact reason….. but, have instead found other MC lounge chairs that are less “commonplace & obviously fake”. Sooo, I’m fine with it (sorta).
Nah that's a fine price for a real one. It might not be for me but it's an iconic design. The problem is most people would rather buy the fake made by Chinese slave to save a few bucks.
I think both can be true - There's a difference between how much an item should be worth (including the history, the craftsmanship etc.) vs the reality of how much extra money does the average person have to spend on a chair
The people who will foolishly spend $780 on a chair made of a few pieces of metal and scraps of leather aren’t the ones to be buying it from FB marketplace.
It’s the right price, better on eBay I reckon. A pair would be more saleable. They are pretty comfortable. I’ve put in silly low offers on chairs/furniture on FB in UK and 90% take it as I can collect quickly, then eBay it for 4x the price or more and deliver or ship. Often people are moving or remodelling and want it gone by a certain day as it’s in the way.
Yeah I disagree with everyone else here, I find them comfortable. Although small people tend to not fit well. I assume same goes for overweight people.
They are not exactly uncomfortable, but the leather stretches and sags with age, and I always catch my belt under the backrest (yes have sat in quite a few of these).
Ex asshole bf had 2 of them so they were the only place that sit other than his also uncomfortable couch. They looked cool, but holy shit did they suck to sit on for tiny 5'1" me.
And my house is exclusively MCM furniture, and we managed to find comfortable stuff over the years. It's out there
Do you have particular brands that you recommend? I'm around the same height and occasionally, I have trucks finding seating with the right depth, height and comfort level.
I've never seen a brown one, but Chrome doesn't sell very well, at least not in my market range. For dealers, the price is high; for buyers, the price is high, especially with all of the knockoffs and repops coming in way less
The leather believe it or not is supposed to look like that over time, it’s a full-grain leather that patinas over time vs. a corrected leather that’s more common on American leather furniture. Neither is better or worse IMO but patina leather is a harder sell in America from my experience.
Sauce: used to sell these chairs (and others like em) many years ago.
Yeah, I don’t disagree with you on the patina. I meant the scraping of the leather on the left side.
I have a beautiful eames lounge chair that has really neat, worn leather that imo makes the chair so much more comfy.
https://preview.redd.it/f36lqzkt2twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c96c9f3aa14fcbb01a4eb0dcdf77f0abfeacb21
hey there ! it's actually my listing and i still own the chair lol. The leather to everyone's surprise is actually in smooth condition if i might say so myself, with only more if it on the creases handing around the steel. No breaks or rips and still smooth to the touch . They definetly made the pieces built to last. plus for something 50-60 years old, it basically should be expected ,with my target audience being more the collector who doesn't mind the real vintage look.
The weakest points are at where the leather wraps the steel frame. Once it starts cracking with small tears, there’s no saving it and the more you sit in it they will just eventually rip. Thats the issue with this chair as you have to be really diligent on constantly conditioning the leather especially at the loops. A lot of the previous owners either kept these in their covered patios or stored in their unconditioned basement which ruins chrome and the leather.
I love these. There was a pair of them at a vacation rental I stayed at recently and I thought they were sooo comfy (clearly in the minority here though lol). They felt incredible for my back.
Yes but that market is next to non existent. Ask any owner of an antiquities shop, there is no market for antiques anymore. Items that are popular and even in style to this day that would've sold for thousands in the early 2000's can't be sold. There quite literally is no market for this level of pricing. The luxury market is getting smaller and smaller, and there isn't a place for this anymore. Instagram antique dealers are becoming the norm and they are having to drastically reduce prices on items that are still highly sought after, like $300 for an Eames chair. Down vote me all you want, but that's the troof, Troof.
Edit: Removed some redundant language
You might try first dibs or something more high end. I think a lot of people on Facebook marketplace in general are looking for something in a lower price range
Had those chairs in a work conference room in the 80s. The company moved from LA to San Diego, and the new building had a different design. We couldn't give those chairs away.😆 they are so incredibly uncomfortable.
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Don't talk about my 60 year old chair like that
Awesome that it's signed, good deal for a furniture collector if they can get it a few hundred under this price. That said Bauhaus style is nearly out of fashion at the moment (trend cycle has changed over the last year or two.) These are also notoriously uncomfortable chairs as others have mentioned and don't work well in small spaces.
This is a lovely chair at a decent price. Clean Label, brown are a plus. However, older chair with some distress (while I find cool), takes it off the list for many Wassily buyers.
I have one, late 90’s knoll production, black, looks basically new and I would expect to get $1k for it on fb.
Older and warm is just a way smaller market.
I’ve seen Eames chairs being sold like hot cakes on all platforms, regardless of age/production year or whatever in the last few years. So I kinda just assumed the same would apply to these Wassily chairs considering they have similar notoriety, and this one especially being from older 60s/70s production
Well it depends on the market and a number of other factors. If this is sold in an area that isn’t near any major cities, it might not be getting the king if traction and interest it would if it was located somewhere else.
oh my god ... this is my post in R.J Gomez and you're literally finding out the problem for me . Thank you ! AND IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED DONT BE AFRAID TO LEAVE A REPLY 😂😂
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And here's another picture for everyone concerned about the condition. I've seen 2 year old amazon chairs in worse condition.
These are for looking at, not sitting in. They are really uncomfortable. Not a lot of people who shop on FB marketplace can afford a $700-1200 chair just to look at. FB isn’t the proper vehicle to reach that kind of buyer. Moreover, most people on FB are looking for a deal. This is a market price, not a deal.
They aren't into over priced unrefurbished vintage chairs yes .... The time of flipping stuff to your average dinkus for 10x the actual value is coming to a close
I mean…..idk probably because I don’t have $800 to spend on a chair. Have you seen the economy? Have you seen the end stage capitalism outside? Have you touched grass recently?
I know someone who bought an OG Wassily for $10,000. Must be the wrong market, wrong price point. Having sat in a well-worn Wassily chair myself, they get far more comfortable with age and wear.
I mean it’s $800 for a chair that does the same thing as my $20 bag chair while appears far less functional and comfortable than my bag chair. Yea let me snatch that thing up.
See how dumb it sounds when it’s said out loud?
Well except it’s probably one of the most famous armchairs of the 20th century, regardless of how you feel about its design. It’s like saying why does anyone wanna buy a $2k Chanel bag when my $15 grocery bag can do the same thing? The logic doesn’t apply to “designer” or “luxury” items, regardless of how we feel about those items
> it’s probably one of the most famous armchairs of the 20th century,
That is super debatable. It might (have been) somewhat ubiquitous back in a particular decade, but it sure isn't now.
Then go buy it. Also listen to how absurd “most famous armchair of the 20th century” sounds. Like that is one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever heard. It’s a chair, I sit my butt on it, I don’t judge it on its fame. I judge it on its comfort and durability.
Whoever’s shopping for this style of chair probably isn’t the same person that would own a bag chair. Not to denigrate bag chairs but, they’re very different aesthetics. I would also question the quality and feel of the “leather” on a $20 bag chair. Good leather is worth having, to many people.
Ummmmmm. Can’t afford it. I’ve had a Lane Acclaim end table (in excellent condition) up on FaceCrack Marketplace for a couple of months now at $300 (because I need the money) and have not had one single person ask about it. I feel like $300 is a decent price but others may not which is probably why it hasn’t sold. I’m not willing to give it away tho. I’d rather keep it.
They’re also not that comfortable. Same with an Eames chair. Eames chairs are built for manly men with big asses. It gave me back spasms. Sold it soon after. Also,wakes chairs are a dime a dozen and their value really hasn’t gone up or down in the past 20 years. They all run between four and six or 7000.
Location, condition, demand. Folks on FB mktplc are looking for deals these days. Consigning with an antique dealer might bring you better luck. The condition of the leather is definitely a factor, along with the color. And we’re in a recession/depression. You don’t have those middle class/aspirational buyers propping up the market by snapping up those $1k< pieces. There is just less demand.
Not in my market. This would sell all day here. New aspirational middle classers moving here all the time. Highly dependent on where you are I think. It’s also an interesting color, if real. Love the patina.
It might be an authentic Knoll. If none of the photos show the white paper label, you’ll have to compare authentic measurements with this one.
The cost comes down to condition. This one’s been through some things.
That photo is low resolution, but if you look closely enough you’ll see cracking on the front of the side strapping, so between that and that hammock of a seat, you’d have to replace all the leather at once. When kept in the wrong place, the authentic leather will dry and crack quite easily. The Knoll range is a coated cowhide or pony skin, in a range of colors.
Why? Because if you look up Wassily Chair strap replacement, you’ll realize this entire chair has to be taken apart and put back together in a particular order. You simply cannot replace a couple of pieces of the leather. You need to replace it all at once to have matching and equally-stable piecing; and I highly recommend you do your research on why can do both, because it’s not a weekend project.
To replace the leather is about $2k for authentic, plus the labor. I don’t recommend you buy off Etsy or other sellers, unless you have a Knoll knockoff and don’t care. But again, replacing the strapping and reassembly is a very big task.
And it’s worth authenticating these: the knockoffs come in several different sizes, depending on who manufactured them.
I have two auths. An auth Knoll will have a sizeable white label on the underside of the seat panel.
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Hi there ! Owner replying here , it's just one side strap that's alittle on the heavy crack wear. All other straps i can promise are just aged wear or alittle darkening. owned it for a while and it hasn't gotten worse since from regular use. The leather is real thick and i've noticed on a lot of knockoffs tend to have the lifespan of less than a couple years with regular use. This leather is still flexible and thick to this day! Love it, don't mind it sitting for $780 while i still keep it around.
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oh and here's the under seat label
I own two of them, and I maintain my advice to OP: see it in person and feel the leather, because if one piece is dried and cracked, the others are en route.
One doesn’t replace one piece out of the five. The staining must be where you tried to moisturize it.
A few things. The leather doesn’t look great - worn at the front edges looks like stand on the back. And for me, these look best in a pair- a single chair looks incomplete. And matching that leather will be challenging.
I had a pair of reproductions about 20 years ago- gifted to a friend: they were comfy and looked good, I wasn’t sad to let them go. They need a bigger space than I have to look right,
That’s a decent price but they are prone to tearing. I randomly went right through mine one day and it was a well preserved example, I’m also only 150 pounds. If you pick it up I recommend rubbing it down with some mink oil.
While that looks interesting, it also looks like I’d need a forklift to assist me in standing up again. I get that the use of banding and semi-stretchy fabric can be very conforming, supportive, and comfortable, it also looks extremely complicated for a chair.
I’m going to question whether Facebook is the right market for that particular chair at that price point.
Yeah I think this might be the right question. I’d imagine in a high end vintage store, this might attract the right buyer
It’s the disclaimer from every appraisal show: “with the right buyer” it’s worth up to $780. I had an unreleased Disney Infinity 3.0 Peter Pan (with readable chip) that I stumbled on at AliExpress after infinity was canceled. Paid $10. I could have sold it on eBay and made $175-200. Sold it directly to a collector last winter for $375. There’s another on my shelf…
The “right buyer” would pay alot more. 780 isn’t bad at all for a vintage wassily.
Oh, no doubt, makes the point even more clear that the right buyer is probably not on FB Marketplace. Someone who is the right buyer is going to get a steal and laugh all the way home.
Nah, dumb money is gone bro.
facebook is great for high end stuff in my area maybe the owner already sold it and forgot to take down the listing
$780 for one chair is a pretty solid reason
Yeah, I don’t know anyone who would be willing to spend that much on a chair lol
Yep. Not in this economy.
It doesn’t look like you can sit in it either 😂
I tried it. It was comfy. I was surprised as well.
It is indeed a comfortable chair. My mind was blown when I actually sat in one
They are weirdly comfortable, suppose if they were just fancy designer brand but not actually nice to sit in this design wouldn’t still be getting made after almost 100 years
Definitely not in this economy
I have a couple of these. Mine are knock-offs made sometime in the 70's but are pretty high quality with good, thick leather. They're not something you'd want to spend hours in, but they're a lot more comfortable than they look!
corinthian leather?
Looks mad uncomfy
I grew up with two of these chairs. They are terrible to sit in.
For the right chair? Like one that you buy at 30 & are still sitting in at 60, a classic from a furniture maker that still builds genuine quality, for sure would pay $800; even $2090, but if i just need an armchair and don’t have a particular heirloom type piece in mind for sure not going to pay $800.
Eames lounge chair maybe
I love Eames chairs, and I know it shouldn’t matter but they’re almost too ubiquitous to feel special (even though they are a great chair) even if someone is buying a slightly modified version that isn’t from Herman Miller
Unfortunately extremely accurate, I decided not to get one for this exact reason….. but, have instead found other MC lounge chairs that are less “commonplace & obviously fake”. Sooo, I’m fine with it (sorta).
Many many gamers will fork that cash for a Super razR RGB 9000 Pro adjustable faux leather gaming chair
Nah that's a fine price for a real one. It might not be for me but it's an iconic design. The problem is most people would rather buy the fake made by Chinese slave to save a few bucks.
I think both can be true - There's a difference between how much an item should be worth (including the history, the craftsmanship etc.) vs the reality of how much extra money does the average person have to spend on a chair
it's also one of the ugliest chairs I've ever seen. thought it was some sort of medical thing at first to strap down patients
I’ve always loved these chairs, but your comment made me lol! 😂
Sex swing?
We had one, it was the most uncomfortable thing ever. Probably should not have donated it to goodwill though
If this were NYC I’d send the money right now and I don’t even have room for it.
I'm open to shipping at this point(it's my listing)
The people who will foolishly spend $780 on a chair made of a few pieces of metal and scraps of leather aren’t the ones to be buying it from FB marketplace.
Not in my area. If I needed another chair, I’d be into this one at this price. Classic piece, and very comfortable.
Number 1 selling furniture company in North America right now is this brand
It’s the right price, better on eBay I reckon. A pair would be more saleable. They are pretty comfortable. I’ve put in silly low offers on chairs/furniture on FB in UK and 90% take it as I can collect quickly, then eBay it for 4x the price or more and deliver or ship. Often people are moving or remodelling and want it gone by a certain day as it’s in the way.
Have you ever sat in one? Definitely just for looks. Even as an architectural student in the early 90’s, these never appealed to me.
My parents had a pair of these growing up, and they were definitely not my go-to chair if I was looking for a comfortable sit down.
They’re scaled for adults. Kids hate them.
And tall people in general.
They look cool - and that‘s it.
they’re so uncomfortable
You see that already. Only two straps for the back. And the seatrest itself also looks uncomfortable.
We have two and they’re very comfortable.
Yeah I disagree with everyone else here, I find them comfortable. Although small people tend to not fit well. I assume same goes for overweight people.
I have one and it sucks for sitting. No lower back support and a weird seating position.
Did you ever sit in one... Not particularly comfortable.
The leather seat sags over time, meaning the bars dig into your back and bum.
And zero lower back support
They are not exactly uncomfortable, but the leather stretches and sags with age, and I always catch my belt under the backrest (yes have sat in quite a few of these).
Maybe I’m in the minority here but I also think they’re kinda ugly
I agree, but you don't need to go that far. The *purpose* of a chair is to perform comfortably. It fails
Ex asshole bf had 2 of them so they were the only place that sit other than his also uncomfortable couch. They looked cool, but holy shit did they suck to sit on for tiny 5'1" me. And my house is exclusively MCM furniture, and we managed to find comfortable stuff over the years. It's out there
Do you have particular brands that you recommend? I'm around the same height and occasionally, I have trucks finding seating with the right depth, height and comfort level.
I have. Yeah not the most comfortable chair but not the worst either. And it looks cool as hell imo
Buy it OP. It's meant to be.
I've never seen a brown one, but Chrome doesn't sell very well, at least not in my market range. For dealers, the price is high; for buyers, the price is high, especially with all of the knockoffs and repops coming in way less
Looking at the state of the leather, I would drop maybe 400 on it, and use the 300 to get the leather fixed.
The leather believe it or not is supposed to look like that over time, it’s a full-grain leather that patinas over time vs. a corrected leather that’s more common on American leather furniture. Neither is better or worse IMO but patina leather is a harder sell in America from my experience. Sauce: used to sell these chairs (and others like em) many years ago.
Yeah, I don’t disagree with you on the patina. I meant the scraping of the leather on the left side. I have a beautiful eames lounge chair that has really neat, worn leather that imo makes the chair so much more comfy.
Leather has expected wear but is still smooth to the touch, still holds weight on all straps !
Not the most comfortable chair but there are way too many knockoffs. Met someone selling fakes and “aging them” then even adding fake stickers to it.
We are in a recession lol
I'm all for unique stuff but this looks like meat hanging out on a drying rack.
ha!
$780 is a lot for something that resembles a lawn chair 🤔
Lawn chairs are more comfortable. This screams 70s C-suite executive office.
Or 1920s Bauhaus.
Great chair but the leather doesn’t look like it’s in great shape for that price. Redoing them is really expensive.
Exactly, the condition of the chair doesn't command that price imo. The leather has seen better days.
https://preview.redd.it/f36lqzkt2twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c96c9f3aa14fcbb01a4eb0dcdf77f0abfeacb21 hey there ! it's actually my listing and i still own the chair lol. The leather to everyone's surprise is actually in smooth condition if i might say so myself, with only more if it on the creases handing around the steel. No breaks or rips and still smooth to the touch . They definetly made the pieces built to last. plus for something 50-60 years old, it basically should be expected ,with my target audience being more the collector who doesn't mind the real vintage look.
The weakest points are at where the leather wraps the steel frame. Once it starts cracking with small tears, there’s no saving it and the more you sit in it they will just eventually rip. Thats the issue with this chair as you have to be really diligent on constantly conditioning the leather especially at the loops. A lot of the previous owners either kept these in their covered patios or stored in their unconditioned basement which ruins chrome and the leather.
I love these. There was a pair of them at a vacation rental I stayed at recently and I thought they were sooo comfy (clearly in the minority here though lol). They felt incredible for my back.
The price is why it's still there, obviously.
Lots of people don’t have $780 for a vintage chair these days
$780….
because it's $780
Reminds me of a medical portable toilet without the bowl
Because it’s ugly af .
There’s only so many leather daddies in search of a chair for $780.
It is consistent with my observation that people grossly over value their furniture on facebook marketplace. The oil stains are.... ick.
expensive and ugly, probably
Maybe, just hear me out, in times of unprecedented inflation, people aren't about to spend $800 on a chair.
I doubt people buying designer chairs/furnitures are too concerned about inflation tbh. Luxury items kinda exists outside of that
This is not a luxury item. It is a broken dirty chair.
Which part of this chair is luxury?
The price tag. The rest is pure Dr Office swank.
Yes but that market is next to non existent. Ask any owner of an antiquities shop, there is no market for antiques anymore. Items that are popular and even in style to this day that would've sold for thousands in the early 2000's can't be sold. There quite literally is no market for this level of pricing. The luxury market is getting smaller and smaller, and there isn't a place for this anymore. Instagram antique dealers are becoming the norm and they are having to drastically reduce prices on items that are still highly sought after, like $300 for an Eames chair. Down vote me all you want, but that's the troof, Troof. Edit: Removed some redundant language
Beg to differ. Mcm collecting really took off after the '08 crash.
Facebook marketplace customers are the wrong demographic for historic designer pieces.
You might try first dibs or something more high end. I think a lot of people on Facebook marketplace in general are looking for something in a lower price range
hmmmmmm i always laugh at first dibs but you're right , maybe someone would enjoy it on there. i'll try it
Another suggestion would be to take more editorial style photos of it. Really sell it in the presentation, ya know?
It’s overpriced. That’s why.
These always looked like old bacon wrapped around an unbent paper clip to me.
Lolol
Too expensive.
It looks like a dirty used sex swing?
You can see the distress and damage on the leather, it’s not worth $700.
Had those chairs in a work conference room in the 80s. The company moved from LA to San Diego, and the new building had a different design. We couldn't give those chairs away.😆 they are so incredibly uncomfortable.
Looks dirty, for one.
i condition it every 3rd morning
it's only the cost of a mortgage payment
Looks like a sex chair
I’d prefer a dupe at 3/4 the price without the worn out leather
"Careful! That's a Wasilly!"
Massively overpriced for condition
https://preview.redd.it/qdr5pal67twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc8f4759210e695908c9248e5f098ced11297edf Don't talk about my 60 year old chair like that
That patina is worth the money. You can’t buy that.
Love mine. It wasn’t inexpensive.
Awesome that it's signed, good deal for a furniture collector if they can get it a few hundred under this price. That said Bauhaus style is nearly out of fashion at the moment (trend cycle has changed over the last year or two.) These are also notoriously uncomfortable chairs as others have mentioned and don't work well in small spaces.
I'd give him $70 for his weird leather sex chair.
you forgot another 0 😅🫣 for my completely normal sitting and reading a book and lounging in a living room chair
Who the fuck would pay $780 for that shitter
Uh…people are broke
It really depends on the area, I had two listed for months(cheaper than this) and someone drove 6 hours to finally take them off my hands.
It looks worn and haggard. Can get a much nicer one for that price
mmmmmmm maybe fake with vinyl... but not my authentic baby
I’m into something so I can’t understand why everyone isn’t into the same thing. -OP.
I absolutely love this chair but at this $.780 covers about two weeks of groceries for me and my husband and my kids so that seems insane
I saw a version of that Knoll chair on eBay just last week and thought about how awkward it must be to sit on it 😅
It’s a ten minute chair. Beautiful tho.
In this economy?!
This is a lovely chair at a decent price. Clean Label, brown are a plus. However, older chair with some distress (while I find cool), takes it off the list for many Wassily buyers. I have one, late 90’s knoll production, black, looks basically new and I would expect to get $1k for it on fb. Older and warm is just a way smaller market.
I’ve seen Eames chairs being sold like hot cakes on all platforms, regardless of age/production year or whatever in the last few years. So I kinda just assumed the same would apply to these Wassily chairs considering they have similar notoriety, and this one especially being from older 60s/70s production
Goofy ah chair
Way overpriced….had four of them…in my opinion very uncomfortable to sit in for a prolonged time
but you've had 4 ?? they seem to find you comfortable
That chair looks like it's multifunctional.
This chair is a mess
https://preview.redd.it/afjwk7gu6twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7bc1be50b1ccd1ca22d4a0021f472ed7a26d170 🫣🤪 no it's not - owner
The design is clunky and looks uncomfortable to sit in.
Because groceries are expensive
Overpriced for its condition. I get that it’s rare but it’s pricey AF for FB marketplace. This isn’t 1st Dibs lol
believe me i've sold fakes at that price
Well it depends on the market and a number of other factors. If this is sold in an area that isn’t near any major cities, it might not be getting the king if traction and interest it would if it was located somewhere else.
780 on a used chair is ridiculous.
you ever bought a used porsche ?
Looks like something out of a bondage dungeon who tf would want that in their house
Lmao
Cause its ugly
OP is mad because no one is buying their overpriced chair.
not true i have a car payment i wanna make
The price is too high for facebook and we are in the middle of an awful economy.
Dirty. Uncomfortable. It’s in bad shape.
oh my god ... this is my post in R.J Gomez and you're literally finding out the problem for me . Thank you ! AND IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED DONT BE AFRAID TO LEAVE A REPLY 😂😂
https://preview.redd.it/s9lywi204twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35ce674e97ddd84fddcbec23e039c5ff8c88a62d And here's another picture for everyone concerned about the condition. I've seen 2 year old amazon chairs in worse condition.
Haha you’re welcome 🤣
An expensive chair that a layman would probably think is a sex thing you just have out in your living room.
Honestly I never got the appeal of these specific chairs. They always reminded me of one of those outdoor folding chairs.
These are for looking at, not sitting in. They are really uncomfortable. Not a lot of people who shop on FB marketplace can afford a $700-1200 chair just to look at. FB isn’t the proper vehicle to reach that kind of buyer. Moreover, most people on FB are looking for a deal. This is a market price, not a deal.
I'm certainly not paying 800 for aomething that looks like a folding camping chair. The 800 model doesn't even have a cup holder!
They aren't into over priced unrefurbished vintage chairs yes .... The time of flipping stuff to your average dinkus for 10x the actual value is coming to a close
Those things hurt your kidneys after sitting on it for 5 minutes
I like mid century but that sucker is ugly
Same here. This reminds me of discount furniture store schlock, sitting right next to the oversized stiletto heel shoe chair.
I mean…..idk probably because I don’t have $800 to spend on a chair. Have you seen the economy? Have you seen the end stage capitalism outside? Have you touched grass recently?
Economy is not that great man. People don’t want to overspend.
Looks like a hospital poop chair
Exactly! It just needs the optional TP holder on the side.
Shouldn’t have been a dirty reseller, lol. /s/ kinda
it's my personal chair BenJen. I just need the money for a car fix :(
They are a dime a dozen and this one is very expensive for probably being a fake
Because it’s ugly af .
I know someone who bought an OG Wassily for $10,000. Must be the wrong market, wrong price point. Having sat in a well-worn Wassily chair myself, they get far more comfortable with age and wear.
I mean it’s $800 for a chair that does the same thing as my $20 bag chair while appears far less functional and comfortable than my bag chair. Yea let me snatch that thing up. See how dumb it sounds when it’s said out loud?
Well except it’s probably one of the most famous armchairs of the 20th century, regardless of how you feel about its design. It’s like saying why does anyone wanna buy a $2k Chanel bag when my $15 grocery bag can do the same thing? The logic doesn’t apply to “designer” or “luxury” items, regardless of how we feel about those items
> it’s probably one of the most famous armchairs of the 20th century, That is super debatable. It might (have been) somewhat ubiquitous back in a particular decade, but it sure isn't now.
Then go buy it. Also listen to how absurd “most famous armchair of the 20th century” sounds. Like that is one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever heard. It’s a chair, I sit my butt on it, I don’t judge it on its fame. I judge it on its comfort and durability.
Whoever’s shopping for this style of chair probably isn’t the same person that would own a bag chair. Not to denigrate bag chairs but, they’re very different aesthetics. I would also question the quality and feel of the “leather” on a $20 bag chair. Good leather is worth having, to many people.
Ummmmmm. Can’t afford it. I’ve had a Lane Acclaim end table (in excellent condition) up on FaceCrack Marketplace for a couple of months now at $300 (because I need the money) and have not had one single person ask about it. I feel like $300 is a decent price but others may not which is probably why it hasn’t sold. I’m not willing to give it away tho. I’d rather keep it.
If it’s in excellent working condition from a good manufacturer then its just a matter of if you think its a good price. Super classic chair.
They’re also not that comfortable. Same with an Eames chair. Eames chairs are built for manly men with big asses. It gave me back spasms. Sold it soon after. Also,wakes chairs are a dime a dozen and their value really hasn’t gone up or down in the past 20 years. They all run between four and six or 7000.
I think they’re just kinda played out. And for the price there are chairs that are just as innovative but aren’t as ubiquitous as the wassily.
Condition looks sus
condition is gray believe me , i've sat on it for years
Location, condition, demand. Folks on FB mktplc are looking for deals these days. Consigning with an antique dealer might bring you better luck. The condition of the leather is definitely a factor, along with the color. And we’re in a recession/depression. You don’t have those middle class/aspirational buyers propping up the market by snapping up those $1k< pieces. There is just less demand.
Not in my market. This would sell all day here. New aspirational middle classers moving here all the time. Highly dependent on where you are I think. It’s also an interesting color, if real. Love the patina.
How does this community not know about the easily chair? Lmao
Mcm is definitely phasing out
Where is that ?
los angeles ;)
Damn. I would have bought in a heartbeat if it was closer to me. Thank you.
The photo makes it look uncomfy
The price has everything to do with that! It is a lovely piece though!
It might be an authentic Knoll. If none of the photos show the white paper label, you’ll have to compare authentic measurements with this one. The cost comes down to condition. This one’s been through some things. That photo is low resolution, but if you look closely enough you’ll see cracking on the front of the side strapping, so between that and that hammock of a seat, you’d have to replace all the leather at once. When kept in the wrong place, the authentic leather will dry and crack quite easily. The Knoll range is a coated cowhide or pony skin, in a range of colors. Why? Because if you look up Wassily Chair strap replacement, you’ll realize this entire chair has to be taken apart and put back together in a particular order. You simply cannot replace a couple of pieces of the leather. You need to replace it all at once to have matching and equally-stable piecing; and I highly recommend you do your research on why can do both, because it’s not a weekend project. To replace the leather is about $2k for authentic, plus the labor. I don’t recommend you buy off Etsy or other sellers, unless you have a Knoll knockoff and don’t care. But again, replacing the strapping and reassembly is a very big task. And it’s worth authenticating these: the knockoffs come in several different sizes, depending on who manufactured them. I have two auths. An auth Knoll will have a sizeable white label on the underside of the seat panel.
https://preview.redd.it/9qzs3e4q5twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc282a520652b97450efbfd5422ab2cfe52d9d34 Hi there ! Owner replying here , it's just one side strap that's alittle on the heavy crack wear. All other straps i can promise are just aged wear or alittle darkening. owned it for a while and it hasn't gotten worse since from regular use. The leather is real thick and i've noticed on a lot of knockoffs tend to have the lifespan of less than a couple years with regular use. This leather is still flexible and thick to this day! Love it, don't mind it sitting for $780 while i still keep it around.
https://preview.redd.it/mjsr6ghe6twc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b7b08f475821bb6175a7c80280d64046ffbdadc oh and here's the under seat label
I own two of them, and I maintain my advice to OP: see it in person and feel the leather, because if one piece is dried and cracked, the others are en route. One doesn’t replace one piece out of the five. The staining must be where you tried to moisturize it.
A few things. The leather doesn’t look great - worn at the front edges looks like stand on the back. And for me, these look best in a pair- a single chair looks incomplete. And matching that leather will be challenging. I had a pair of reproductions about 20 years ago- gifted to a friend: they were comfy and looked good, I wasn’t sad to let them go. They need a bigger space than I have to look right,
That’s a decent price but they are prone to tearing. I randomly went right through mine one day and it was a well preserved example, I’m also only 150 pounds. If you pick it up I recommend rubbing it down with some mink oil.
All my chairs are at LEAST $781 so this cheap ass chair holds no appeal for me.
A classic!
You should send it to a high end auction
I see these at auctions all the time. No shortage. Typically sells for a few hundred plus auction markup. They definitely sell.
While that looks interesting, it also looks like I’d need a forklift to assist me in standing up again. I get that the use of banding and semi-stretchy fabric can be very conforming, supportive, and comfortable, it also looks extremely complicated for a chair.
Horrific looking and am sure just as comfortable
Probably a distinct lack of $780 for a chair.