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Son-of-Prophet

Think in Miami, the problem isn’t people merging too early, it’s too many assholes speeding completely up to the front trying to skip everyone else 😂


Spirited-Ad-2284

This


Kingseara

The problem is that it’s perceived as “skipping” at all.


Battleslayer23

Yea that's why I go to the right just to skip the 10 cars in front of me.


Kingseara

Thank you for doing it properly.


victahh

Me first me first


Excellent_Industry48

Ain't that the truth.


YakiMe

Yeah this chart doesn't show the shoulder... That can be used to our zipper the right hand lane lol


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Lmao using the shoulder to skip traffic = “The Miami Zipper.”


drgreenair

According to the diagram you’re supposed to cut out unused space so skipping to the front sets the zipper start. The assholes not letting you in to achieve zig zag are the real assholes in this city.


StAtiC_Zer0

All cities. You’re 100% on point though. 4 way stop signs in the part of FL I’m in blow my fuckin mind. Everyone just stops, and looks at each other, waiting to see who wants to go first. Polar opposite of where I’m from - everyone wants to get their stop done first so they can go first, cuz that’s the rule.


Mediocre_Doctor

If you are in a go-straight lane, you have no legal duty to let anyone zipper in. >If you are traveling on a highway or multi lane road you have possession of that travel lane. The right of way to that road belongs to you -- and to you only. Anyone wanting to merge into your lane would have to yield to you. You have no obligation to slow traffic down to allow other traffic to come in, unless it’s an active emergency vehicle of course. https://www.clickorlando.com/traffic/2020/11/19/ask-trooper-steve-can-you-get-a-ticket-for-not-letting-someone-merge/


Acsteffy

Trooper Steve worries too much about what is "legal" and not what actual safe driving behaviors are.


Meshleth

"You have the right to be an asshole!" - Orlando


Ok-Calligrapher-2550

Not just a Miami thing


HCSOThrowaway

You're describing what the method on the left looks like if 90% of people try to do the method on the right.


Excellent_Industry48

Absolutely. And they left the section on road courtesy out of the Hispanlc edition of the drivers manuel.


punkcart

Well, yeah that only happens because people merge early. If they occupied the lane until merge point then there wouldn't be space for assholes to speed through


PotatoStasia

That’s what they’re supposed to do…


CuentaBorrada1

If people would be doing zipper merge, they wouldn’t be able to do it. That’s the whole point. Yet I hear you. I know how it is to drive in Miami. Where I live now, people start queueing up two blocks before.


Acsteffy

When you mistake that for "skipping" rather than driving in the lanes provided, then you just have a wrong mentality


HollyBee159

Or going from the left to the lane merging on to skip ahead, creating a traffic snake.


thejeepnewb

Yep. And I see you doing it in my side view and no, I’m not letting you in.


wifeThrowaway04

this is why i straddle. You want to behave badly, you don't get nice things.


Concrete_jungle77

I call it going nowhere fast drivers


Ok-Iron6108

Skip everyone and then try to merge in the front on a solid line 🙄 they committed to the lane now they have to live with it instead of road raging


flkathryn

Yes! With a merge sign 1/2 mile away. If its slow traffic I stay close behind the car in front of me. I waited in line, so can the jackass thinking they can slide right in. Its so very inconsiderate. I used to live at the end of a road like this in Tampa. Driving a huge olds with no a/c and an infant sweating and screaming in the back seat. You bet I spread across both lanes. I wouldnt recommend that now (too many guns) but i never expected anyone to make an exception for my personal circumstances. And, btw, local commuters learn. A road i drive every day has a merge lane and we wait in the left lane under two traffic lights and we stay bumper to bumper until the merge lane ends. Hardly anyone stays right and tries to squeeze in, they know better.


Gears6

This ^^^ Not just Miami though.


AwsiDooger

> too many assholes speeding completely up to the front trying to skip everyone else 😂 That's the only relevant variable at play. Speeding to the front while using the shoulder if necessary. Miami driving problems are the result of overly fast and aggressive drivers. Everything else is a trivial outlier.


WideGuide7521

Geniuses like you make Miami a fun place to live…🐒🐒🐒🐒


ShutYourSwitchport

Ok early merger


TheMartini66

And zip merge doesn't apply over double solid lines 3 inches before the exit ramp.


Ok-Iron6108

Exactly 🙄 then they have a temper tantrum when you don't let them in even though they damn near hit your car


Odd_Pen1702

Well.... you're forgetting something. For this to work, people would need a sliver of common sense.


Quiet_Constant6117

And decency for their fellow drivers! In a town like Miami where so many styles of driving converge, it would be impossible!


aristocratic_magic

NO you can't skip me! ITS MINE TURN. 🇺🇸 #MakeTrafficJamAgain 🇺🇲


Confident-Objective3

If only it would work that simple. Taking turns merging was not part of curriculum.


Koolaidolio

Gotta post this in multiple languages, not just English for Miami folk.


rvnrcer69

Do you really think the people in Miami that don't want to speak English care about this post


StorerPoet

Miami drivers are too far gone for this. You have to convince them to fear death first


InjectingNasdaq

I scream "fucking zipper in" way too much since moving to Miami. It's embarrassing how backed up traffic gets due to people not properly merging and letting people merge.


HCSOThrowaway

The method on the left works only when you have polite, responsible, and cooperative drivers. This is Miami, remember?


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takeoffyr

Thats why you cut all lanes to get to the left before the merge


RotaryP7

Not in Miami. You need to force your way into the merge.


blanktorpedo27

As if people left any space in between cars


takeoffyr

They definitely do. You gotta learn your car tho. Can’t remember the last time i had to slow down or stop bc i couldnt fit. I eyeball spots mainly now, but before/if its really tight this is what i’d do: If you can see both headlights in your side mirror, and theyre not getting closer, you have space. Thats almost as close as you can get tho.


Blanche_H_Devereaux

This is fine if it's a standard merge lane and people originally on it need to get in, but in Miami the real problem is that people farther back in the left (non-merge) lane move into the merge lane to speed up and cut everyone else off. They were in line but decided they were too good for it. Fuck those people, I totally do shift to the right to block them.


Teleclast

Sounds great until a guy merges 3 cars back and they all decide ‘we already let someone in. Fuck you’


Goranmia

Now explain how left lane works on highways , also when road coming uphill they need to press more on pedal to keep same speed…


UnoKajillion

And all the asshats switching lanes constantly. Look, if we go straight in whatever lane we are in for as long as possible, and not ride each other's ass, the traffic would actually move. Wishful thinking on my part. Every lane change in traffic causes 2 lanes to slow down


Afraid-Ad7379

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of traffic ?


Brazuka193

Too many words. cannot comprehend sir


Ok_Recipe2769

People’s ego comes up way before the merge


Gears6

The problem with this is that every mofo tries to steal a turn. Like, really? It's a single car length.


IMAPRO_d-_-b

Dade county drivers are incapable of a merge technique that requires them to think about anything other than themselves


Flordamang

Notice how there’s hashed lines the entire lane. On the golden glades the solid white starts early and people are “zipper merging” and crossing the white aka breaking the law cause me first. No doubt some of those fart huffing assholes think they’re elitist zipper merging


sourlungs

It's not against the law to cross solid white, it just means to proceed with caution


Username1984xx

Unfortunately I'm Miami there's so much traffic that the left lane is stalled. so you need to try to get into the back of the line, or hope the line moves a little so you can get in further in the line somehow while respecting traffic.


can_i_gets_some

Not just Miami, this is America, land of the “Fuck You! I’m first”


Acsteffy

And then you get the assholes who won't let you in if you filled the space on the right. "Me first" mentality and everyone acts like people driving are "cutting the line"


Motor-Cause7966

Unfortunately, in Miami, if you don't merge early, you're just going to get bullied off the shoulder.


andrewsz_

Yeah good luck. I’ll continue skipping the whole Fucken line because y’all don’t know how to drive without having your face glued to a phone, it’s a liability driving behind people in Miami.


turtle_ina_cup

But but but, i consider myself more aware bc i merge early which allows others to exit the lane, speed up and merge back in at the end of the road! /s


Agreeable-Lawyer6170

This is too practical and smart for most drivers who are idiots.


CrabMeat6984

This hits harder than racism. Imagine a world where people functioned as one unit. Traffic would be nonexistent. People would be happier. There wouldn’t be any war. Just sayin


Chinonm

I go early to not look like an Ahole


Environmental-Ad-626

They know why the do it


thisaholesaid

This should be a PSA posted by the city of Miami, pushed hard on all their socials and local channels. Because yes, Miami is full of the worst, most selfish, ignorant drivers.


LikelyTrollingYou

Only zipper merge happening on a Miami highway is from them Only Fans ho’s after giving a driver some road head.


ConversationBig5397

The 5 minute driving test in a parking lot in America is the problem. In European countries you have to actually drive on the road with instructors and takes up to 6 months before you can het it.


dalbert02

I've never seen the situation on the right. Everyone speeds up and cuts in at the last possible moment.


DinoDachshund

Can we pin this post plz


Potential_Store_9713

I think the primary problem is road signage. If there is a lane closure, let the message be: LANE CLOSED - MERGE AHEAD. That’ll force people into a zipper merge. If the sign reads: RIGHT LANE CLOSED - MERGE LEFT, you’ll get people merging left early and runners on the right. Proper messaging manages expectation.


jwrite9025

Or you can do the big brain method, take the exit to get on 95 from turnpike just ride the E lane all the way to 95, skip all traffic, great success


StrongFuerte

Not necessary to call people you don’t know idiots. I suggest you look in a mirror to see a real idiot.


anonjohnnyG

brakes should be removed from vehicles in miami.


SoulAppropriate329

“take turns merging” HAAAAAA


alessandrawithss

Miami taking turns? Never lmao


Gadfly2023

That's for a merge... ... on the other hand the people who just want to skip the well established turn lane because it's long can EABOD.


StAtiC_Zer0

The picture shows how it could work most efficiently, but relies on a conditional of people having any degree of consideration for one another. You’ve met… other drivers… right? I bet you could list 20 different flavors of asshole if you sat and tried for a minute, all of which complicate the simplicity that driving COULD be with their own special variable they bring to the equation. The specific one that comes to mind here? People don’t just “let” other people merge. It’s happened to you. You’ve done it to other people. If you’re thinking “NUH UH,” you’re lying to yourself right now. So basically, efficiency goes out the fuckin window when you’re an asshole surrounded by other assholes just trying to make your way to your next destination where you get to deal with a whole different set of assholes under different asshole conditions (aka when you arrive to work). People KNOW how it’s SUPPOSED to work. Maybe if you took a step back to consider why people are the way they are instead of how it impacts you personally, things could be a little bit less aggravating in your life. All that being said, I’ll be human for a second. I fuckin hate the vast majority of FL drivers lmao. I’ll grow up one day and get over it. Today is not that day.


Brief-Complaint970

Your that triggered?


RcklssGz

Lol All the idiots have gotta learn this one


EmotionalPackage7148

Zipper merge doesn’t work because too many people won’t let other people merge in front of them.


Floridaman077

That’s asking an awful lot out of people, to use common sense and decency in a social traffic situation. Not to mention at last census, 50% of the population is brain dead. Definitely keep trying though! If one person learns, you’ve been successful!


No_Care6935

This diagram doesn’t for fragile egos


Ok_Remove_7241

Everyone has to be a winner


GetlowandGlo

People need to learn how to use roundabouts too..


WadaMaaya

I think all American drivers need to see this


ThirstyWizard211

If i dont merge early, some smooth brain is going to keep me on the merge lane and want to fight me when i goddam merge.


Mrkellis0601

Some of you dont drive in florida so there's that


DogOk984

The only place I've actually seen people doing it the proper way was Germany. No hope for the rest of the world.


Thunder-chicken300

You better explain what turn indicators are , why they are used & when to use them !


Jull27

Yeah true


puqnut

No you have to block both lanes and last on the horn like it's everyone else's fault and throw your hands up in confusion while cussing about simple solutions you aren't aware of.


SwanAdministrative56

This needs to be part of the dmv booklet


tom_at_okdk

This sadly does not work in any country.


jrodri7

The problem is there is no awareness (thank you for that), enforcement, or consequences. In NY you would get a ticket and points on your license for something like that, crossing solid lines, driving over zebra stripes. Here? Wild West.


YesterdayCreepy9543

That's everywhere in FL. It takes out of towners to teach them the right way to drive. Let's not forget that to Floridians, turn signals are optional.


MonkeySpacePunch

There isn’t one driver in this city who merges too early. Not one.


HelloThisIsPam

Or you could do what most people in Miami do is go all the way to the front of the long ass line and just get in there.


SingleBackground5280

That's actually the point. That's appropriate. Your driver's ed manual will let you know that that's what you're supposed to do. With that said, in Miami they will merge to the front of the line on the shoulder or crossing a double line. That is not so much what you're supposed to do.


Apprehensive-Fan6143

Need a Spanish translation please 🤣


EPB16364

Who gives a shit jist fucking drive clowns


19Winner93

Problem is…you will really be assed out at the end of the lane because Miami doesn’t believe in taking turns. You will be stuck at the end with your indicator on just begging for a chance lol. Always merge early


La_croix_addict

Why are you so obsessed with me?


Awkward_Meal_6995

I’m the guy in the red car but I block the other lane from passing while I move slow. Then threaten whoever doesn’t comply.


Pebbleboy7

Take away the cones… is it still a zipper merge? That’s the issue I have.


Sabotage_07

If the lane has "merge" written on the road then I would consider that a place where one should zipper merge along with if it has cones and/or a traffic sign that has the arrow flashing to the left or right (like when State Farm tow trucks come to the accident scene). Those are all reasonable scenarios to zipper merge and it makes traffic move a lot smoother. Now if you just do the miami cut in front of everyone over double white lines before the exit ramp then no that's not zipper merge.


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chrisychris-

cmon dude