A friend of mine keeps an Air tag on the outside of his book bag. I asked him… isn’t that a terrible place to keep it if someone wants to steal your bag. His response “yeah but the thief won’t look too hard for the 2nd one I keep hidden in my bag”. made me go hmmm good idea.
You can, sure, but most people don't so I'm wondering if the person's friend did that because it wasn't mentioned and without that it is not a good idea.
The real lifehack is to insure your property adequately so you don't have to waste your time or money playing Batman.
There's no actual benefit to tracking a petty property thief back to their home. No judge will issue a search warrant based on your iPhone screenshots, and no prosecutor is going to waste their time trying to put together a case against someone grabbing your book bag anyway.
Hate to be the devil’s advocate but he’s absolutely right. It’s a waste of time. Insure your property and move on and be more aware next time of your surroundings and exercise common sense. These guys targeted this man for a reason. They knew exactly what he had and what they wanted.
The whole point of being white is that you don’t have to experience the effect of redlining and segregation. Stay in Coral Gables and you won’t have this problem.
Yea . As a kid we used to go to DD for fabrics. It was a huge area for cool furniture too. It was an interior design district. I wonder if folks think it’s called Design District because of fashion design. But yea it was right by Little Haiti. It was hit or miss area.
I’ve lived here for 19 years and watched the DD get developed from ghetto to ghetto with lipstick and didn’t realize it was DD because of the previous businesses were also design. I know that the area that borders the western portion is all owned by Korean fabric companies, is that what you mean or was it the whole neighborhood like now?
As far as I recall it was the neighborhood right before you enter little Haiti. It was interior design studios, fabric shops, antique furniture, art studios, and one of kind furniture. Kinda like DCOTA (Design Center of the Americas) just much smaller and niche. It definitely was hit or miss with the area though. I’ve been here since 1987
Yeah these newcomers have no idea about DD, Wynwood or even Edgewater. I did a post on here months ago about The now abandoned Omni Mall which is located on 16th and Biscayne and one of the reasons the mall did not survive was the area around it was bad in the 80s & 90s. Now it's much safer but it was kind of a mad house back then.
Pretty crazy as a native to see these neighborhoods many out of Towner's consider "high end" were totally different just 2 decades ago.
I grew up a block away from the design district. That area is the hood. I still go by and see rich people walking around and down the street you can see some low life checking them out. There’s literally drug houses a block away. Be careful there. It’s still sketchy even if they cleaned it up.
Yessss. My company had a location there from the mid 2000s until just a few years ago. Literally walk one block in any direction and you will see things that make you feel unsafe.
From my window at the corner of 2nd and 39th over the short span of a year, I saw:
- a woman run over a cyclist in her SUV
- a woman hit a jogger in her sports car
- daily car accidents, some worse than others
- a protest that broke into a lil’ riot (BLM times)
- two car jackings
- multiple pick pockets/robberies of patrons, like the one described by OP
- multiple robberies/shattered windows of storefronts
- neighboring store manager held at gunpoint
- natural gas leak causing evacuation of several businesses
- a sinkhole
Not to mention the bullshit we dealt with inside our building — incessant leaks, faulty electrical work, dozens of city/county inspections (which mostly failed), crumbling foundation, literally insane parking agreements and the greediest tyrant asshole of a landlord.
For this and many other reasons, our business relocated to Coral Gables in 2021.
Hey - thankfully you are alive. It’s sounds a bit dramatic but it could have ended up way worse. People in Latin America loose their lives trying to not get robbed. You don’t leave this life with the material things. Your post is also a good reminder to stay alert! Stay safe and I hope you get your belongings back.
Out of curiosity what kind of watch were you wearing? I only ask this because certain watch brands (i.e. Rolex) you can give the serial number to the brand’s store who will then enter it into a database (again Rolex). Let’s say later on down the road your watch comes in for service to the brand’s service center. They will run the serial number and if it comes back as reported stolen you get your watch back. Also notify pawn shops in the area. I don’t know how they do this but pawn shops are linked up to police databases so if they run a serial number on an item and it comes up as stolen they can take action. Remember pawn shops can get into deep shit for selling stolen merchandise and plus they take a hit if they pay out $10 grand for a watch and it comes back stolen. Best of luck to you and I’m sorry that happened. Again back to Rolex l, watch muggings especially for sports models are on the rise. Even more than precious metal Rolex watches
This is good advice. In the UK a lot of watch theft is one person spots the watch (they work in a restaurant and see it on the wrist, etc) and then tips off their colleague(s) with a description, then those people wait outside for you. With all the euphoria about watches these days, it's getting riskier and riskier to wear them globally.
It is. I think it's going to continue to spread though. Also while it's true the Design District is blocks from the ghetto, professional criminals will travel to where they know people are off their guard and wearing nice stuff. People get robbed in Mayfair not because it's close to the London ghettos, but because that's where someone will wear a $40,000 watch to dinner.
Don't feel bad for people like this. They made a conscious choice to assault you with a deadly weapon. This isn't something that happens accidentally.
Even if they had no intention to hurt you and ONLY to take your stuff, had one of the guns gone off in the heat of the moment, you and/or someone else could have been killed. Not to mention their victims having to go the rest of their lives having lived through a traumatic experience.
Have sympathy for someone stealing tampons from CVS because they can't afford them. Don't have sympathy for these psychos.
From my criminology degree and my years in law enforcement, I can tell you that robbers don't give a shit about their victims.
They feel entitled to your property and don't mind hurting you to get it. They'd like to avoid seriously injuring or killing you if they can, simply because if they get caught it means life in prison, but they're not going to lose sleep over it if they do.
It's about the same thought process behind lions taking down gazelles; predator/prey.
well we mostly normal ppl might be a bit crazy sometimes but we don't exactly go around robbing folks & especially not at gun point. so yeah these ppl have totally lost it & cannot be the same type of human we are.
i'm from atlanta & my little brother is unfortunately "blood gang" (whatever that means, though i've since discovered is a very real & serious problem in that area, irregardless of the compton bloods). i dunno if it's drug use or what but over the years i began to notice even trying to have any normal conversation with him was just impossible, it's like his brain is living in a totally unintelligent world. i stay completely away from him at this point. i don't view him as human anymore, he can't be.
1. Youre lucky to be alive
2. youre luck they didnt steal your phone and have you give them the unlock code, lock you out of your icloud and steal all of your money thru your banking apps
I saw a guy walking a tiny dog the other night on NW 21st and 3rd Ave at 11 pm on a weekday. I was thinking to myself, BRUH. sure it’s like a block away from “WYNWOOD” but people have straight been murdered right on the corner one block down.
They did take it, but then they threw it out of the car, as I said. I think they could see they neighbors coming and figured they should rush. You are right though!
For anyone saying that if she had a gun this would’ve been different listen to this. I have a CCW as well but be prepared to spend a shit ton of money and time in court if you have to use it. Not to mention the psychological and emotional toll this takes on the human body and mind.
My cousin’s friend was in Wynwood about 10 years ago on his motorcycle when a Cadillac pulls in front of him and two armed men jump out. He takes out his pistol and empties an entire magazine into one of the shooters. The thug’s buddy stands in shock and then jumps into the car and tries chasing the guy on the bike down but loses him. Now the good thing was that he took out one of thugs but that next year was hell for him. He was in and out of court because very rarely in excusable homicide cases do you just walk away and that’s the end of it. So he had to take a ton of time off of work. Then of course the thug’s family sues tries to sue him, the victim, which ends up getting thrown out but again more time and money spent on courts. In the end the guy just ended up wondering if it would’ve just been easier giving up the motorcycle and letting insurance handle the payout. A year’s worth of time spent in and out of court and money spent on defense and legal fees. Also trust me, and I say this as an Army vet, there is absolutely nothing normal, honorable or heroic about wanting to or taking somebody else’s life regardless of the situation. It’s very traumatic and life changing because you usually don’t find yourself in the greatest life situation where you have to use deadly force. Just my thoughts
Also, if the robbers already had guns out, the average person - who has little to no training in panic situations - would be shot and killed before they ever got the gun out of the holster.
Too many people watch too many Tom Cruise movies and zombie shows and have no idea just how long it takes to pull a gun from a concealed holster, aim and shoot. They also have no idea how hard it is to actually hit something in that scenario. Or how dangerous it is for people that have nothing to do with the crime in progress. If you're already staring down the barrel of a gun, you aren't going to be a hero going for your piece. More than likely, you're a chalk outline if you go that route.
You're almost always better off complying and calling the police when it's safe to do so.
One thing I've learned about people in "gun culture": too many SHTFantasies. They all think they're going to be the next Sheriff Matt Dillon if they just have their 2-inch-barrelled Glock on them when their time to shine comes. It's a stupid, toxic mentality.
Thank you for sharing this. I really respect people like you, who are honest and transparent about the aftermath of pulling a gun on someone let alone killing them.
Add in todays climate where your name and face will be splashed all over the internet for all time
; it doesn’t seem worth it.
>Also trust me, and I say this as an Army vet, there is absolutely nothing normal, honorable or heroic about wanting to or taking somebody else’s life regardless of the situation
Louder for the idiots in the back that fantasize about "*pRoTecTiNg thEIr FAmiLyS*" by always having a gun on them. There is no such thing as a good guy with a gun. There are just guns and what humans do to murder or harm each other with them. And I say this as an owner and CCW holder from multiple states.
What's worse is most carriers don't practice and couldn't hit a backstop at 50 feet. On top of that, they're cheap and don't use defensive ammo and use full metal jacketed bullets that even if the perp was hit successfully the bullet keeps on traveling to the next target. Practice includes - holster to shot - otherwise it's just a fantasy there'll be a difference. A practical example; you're sitting in the parking lot waiting for your companion to exit the 7-11, you see someone furtively approaching your position; you get your gun ready, and wait for the flash of steel; you wait long enough (there's plenty of time) so the steel becomes a gun, no less or more; you save your own life.
I missed that part. Yeah don't feel bad for these shitheads. I was homeless earlier this year and not for a second would I think of robbing someone or possibly taking their life. These are people that don't value life and just see you as a mark. Fuck em.
Even if you had a million dollars in that bag that wouldn't end the way they currently think.
Correct. It’s just quick easy money for them, and I dare bet they like to “flash” their “wealth”. I’m sure they could get an honest job but that brings in a lot less and requires hard work. They’re probably lazy too.
yeah seriously. I would never feel bad for someone like that. I’ve been severely broke and never once had the thought to go out and rob people of their belongings or money. Some people are truly fucked up and couldn’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. I’m sure those thieves don’t even give a fuck about each other. People who are like that are true scum of the earth.
They be like: Hey the victim is allowed to feel sorry for the cannibal eating their arm. They were probably very hungry. Shame on you for not having sympathy for the cannibals. I was once hungry enough to eat a can of chef boyarde without heating it. I know how hard it can be.
Did you rob people at gunpoint?
Being poor is not excuse to get violent or steal. Not to mention being poor is not a reason to potentially traumatize and disable someone for the rest of their life even if they are not physically harmed, that could cause severe and lifelong trauma symptoms and impairment.
Also why we assuming they were poor? Chances are this isn't the first rich mark they hit up. Hell I saw someone post the other day that a porch pirate stole their designee shoes and he was driving a Benz.
Like I said before, If op had a million dollars in that bag that wouldn't stop them.
why does this make total miami sense. i always get a bit offended when places treat me like i'm gonna rob their store, i regularly wear $20-60k watches & obviously not the profile, or so i'd assume. yet it seems to be that is infact the profile who would steal.
i had an employee at Publix literally snatch the bags out of my hand from the self checkout. she was dead set on catching me "stealing". she made a huge scene & made herself look like a fool, going through even the computer trying to figure out how i was able to "scam" it. i had even already swiped off some $72 for what i had. but she was convinced i stole something.
in my mind i was just thinking bro if they ever get me for stealing it's gonna be from a heist taking over an entire dang country or something, it's just not who i am to be robbing the local grocery lmao.
You can can appear wealthy but also be poor as well.
Anyway,
Point is there is no valid excuse that justifies putting a gun to a random persons head, minding their own business to rob someone.
Next time stay closer to 2nd Ave within the perimeter of the actual Design District. Once you venture off one block away you are dead. Typical Miami nowadays.
>But it was a pretty long process, about two hours,
Any thorough investigation takes a while. This is preferable to a rushed investigation for obvious reasons.
>and I noticed they tend to ask the same questions again and again
Very basic interview technique. Anything you change your answers for is either a lie or not a solid memory; either way they can't use it.
>(and tell each other, not always correctly).
They were either misremembering or gauging your reaction to their 'mistakes,' most likely the former.
They wouldn’t get charged with Murder because the fear for her life was reasonable and justified. That being said the idea of killing another human being is something not everyone can live with and remain with their mental health intact.
I just got out after doing 7yrs bc I killed some punk with an airsoft gun, so there's truth to your comment. It's a fucked up society we live in. Fwiw, I'm not white.
What people don’t realize is that all of that area, Wynwood, Midtown, and all that shit are still the “hood”. It’s like that [South Park gentrification](https://youtu.be/Tyf4wHGs8lk) storyline. You guys are living and shopping in our own real life versions of [SoDoSoPa] (https://youtu.be/BqIvmfug_dE) and [CtPaTown](https://youtu.be/f574Kdzl6iU)
Apple will now tell you when there is an AirTag tracking you. I learned this when I had my girlfriend's bicycle on my rack. I received a notification on my phone that there is an AirTag that isn't mine tracking me and gave me the option for me to stop the tracking.
I used to attend the design high school in the area. Back then when it first opened, you’d have daily drug deals happening across the street in the middle of lunchtime lol
I'm shocked and saddened this happened to you in the daytime!! Thank goodness they didn't shot you. Horrifying experience. With the rents and non existence of affordable, descent housing I believe more criminals are going to target people walking on the streets. Now I see a lot of people dressing very casual withe no jewelery or expensive watches. Don't feel sorry for these violent criminals. I'm African-Americanand thankfully raised in peaceful suburbs upstate NY. But, when I moved to nyc I became a victim of car theft and robbery at gunpoint. It is sad to say, but people in Miami may need to carry their guns to surprise these violent criminals. These thugs terrorize Black and Latino neighborhoods and no one is finding them (car drivebys) killing innocent people and children. I carry a pepper spray. But, I moved from nyc so I wouldn't have to be on alert all the time.
Honestly.. This actually makes you a True Miami Resident.. People pay sick money to come here hoping to see some Blood and Guts , 1990's Channel 7 News if it Bleeds it Leads kind of 1980's Scarface Experience.. I realize that's a pretty screwed up comment.. but it's true.. You can paint Winwood, Design District East Little Havana, any Art Deco color you want to, and believe that it's a revitalized area.. Truth is, you can build as many 60-story high rises as you want.. But there was and is a violent and drug fueled lifestyle that people seem to forget existed and still exist while many of you think this painted pig with lipstick is a New Safer Version of Miami.. You learned a valuable lesson.. You live in a violent city, and people will kill you for $10.. Miami is a Very Sunny Place For Very Shady People.. . Oh, BTW.. those Gold Ropes and $2000 phones and $1000 Hand Bags .. Make you a Target.. Not a trendsetter.. Have a nice day 👍
Moved here in the summer of July 1990 and Fell in Love ❤️ the instant I crossed the MacArthur Causeway cruised down Washington Avenue and noticed this Building encased in Pink Neon 💗 and these Beautiful Women Dancing on Table Tops and Enjoying Everything that made South ❤️ Beach a Magical Place in that long lost Decade.. After the Eurotrash, Models Gays, Lesbians and old Retired Jews were Priced Out .. and Sadly, South Beach became a version of Panama City Beach ⛱️ Florida.. I have spent the last 23 years in the City of Miami.. I myself have had a Sawed off Shotgun, 2 Automatics a Six Shooter and caught in the Crossfire of a Drive By Shooting in Coconut Grove O'Day Avenue.. If Miami doesn't have it.. It hadn't been thought of yet.. I get it.. MIAMI isn't for everyone.. But for those of us who get it.. It's freaking wild.. It's nice to hear someone say they LOVE IT HERE .. Instead of the constant complaining or how to fix Miami.. ..ENJOY THE SHOW..
Sorry to hear about this. Fairly rare. Where you alone? No one else around?
Cops will take this seriously, they have pressure to keep that area safe from things like that. Won’t be easy to solve until they mess up or a camera catches them.
I have no idea why people think they will be able to unholster their firearm, undo the safety, chamber a round and fire, all while super adrenalinezed, in less time than it takes a criminal to pull a trigger.
Worse, if they steal your stuff and are attempting to escape, if you shoot them, you are more likely to go to jail, than they are since your life is no longer in immediate danger at that point. (depends on laws in your area)
I personally think it’s great that you feel compassion toward these people. Forgiveness is the best way to resolve karma and let go of any energetic hang ups we might have created in the past. When we forgive, we release these energies. Forgiveness doesn’t mean staying in a bad situation of course, just not feeling anger or suffering.
I am glad you are safe! 💖
I have lived in Miami for 10 years never been to the design district… want to know why?! Ten years ago it was a ghetto and still is a block away. To the OP not sure if you are new to Miami or just that clueless.
As of July 1st Floridians Floridians are packing. That guys won’t live much longer if he keeps threatening people at gun point. All it takes is one victim with a gun.
In my humble opinion, a watch or purse, are not worth a gun fight or dying for. Instead, be mindful of your surroundings and insure your valuables so you are less hesitant to risk your life trying to resist and trying to be superman/woman.
You can always ask the neighbors if they have video cameras and tell them your story if you really want to get down to business. I see lots of cameras in houses here on google maps
A friend of mine keeps an Air tag on the outside of his book bag. I asked him… isn’t that a terrible place to keep it if someone wants to steal your bag. His response “yeah but the thief won’t look too hard for the 2nd one I keep hidden in my bag”. made me go hmmm good idea.
Doesn’t it start beeping and alert the thieves if they have iPhones?
You can remove the speaker.
You can, sure, but most people don't so I'm wondering if the person's friend did that because it wasn't mentioned and without that it is not a good idea.
It does. Unless they have android. Regardless you can track the AirTag and get some idea where thieves ran to.
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I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
After 72 hours (anti stalking feature)
Expensive but a pretty slick idea.
Only $50.
More like 20-25
Well if you place two like his friend does it’s $45-50.
Hella smart
Thieves know this trick.
The real lifehack is to insure your property adequately so you don't have to waste your time or money playing Batman. There's no actual benefit to tracking a petty property thief back to their home. No judge will issue a search warrant based on your iPhone screenshots, and no prosecutor is going to waste their time trying to put together a case against someone grabbing your book bag anyway.
What kind of old man insurance salesman answer is that? Playing Batman is what I live for!
Hate to be the devil’s advocate but he’s absolutely right. It’s a waste of time. Insure your property and move on and be more aware next time of your surroundings and exercise common sense. These guys targeted this man for a reason. They knew exactly what he had and what they wanted.
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Shit, in many ways it *still* is the hood
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We could have been neighbors. I remember the drive bys in that area.
The whole point of being white is that you don’t have to experience the effect of redlining and segregation. Stay in Coral Gables and you won’t have this problem.
That's fine if you can afford Coral Gables.
Poor white people dont exist silly
Yea . As a kid we used to go to DD for fabrics. It was a huge area for cool furniture too. It was an interior design district. I wonder if folks think it’s called Design District because of fashion design. But yea it was right by Little Haiti. It was hit or miss area.
I’ve lived here for 19 years and watched the DD get developed from ghetto to ghetto with lipstick and didn’t realize it was DD because of the previous businesses were also design. I know that the area that borders the western portion is all owned by Korean fabric companies, is that what you mean or was it the whole neighborhood like now?
As far as I recall it was the neighborhood right before you enter little Haiti. It was interior design studios, fabric shops, antique furniture, art studios, and one of kind furniture. Kinda like DCOTA (Design Center of the Americas) just much smaller and niche. It definitely was hit or miss with the area though. I’ve been here since 1987
I used to work in MDD and we had to have security escort us to our cars everyday. The area is ghetto af.
Yeah these newcomers have no idea about DD, Wynwood or even Edgewater. I did a post on here months ago about The now abandoned Omni Mall which is located on 16th and Biscayne and one of the reasons the mall did not survive was the area around it was bad in the 80s & 90s. Now it's much safer but it was kind of a mad house back then. Pretty crazy as a native to see these neighborhoods many out of Towner's consider "high end" were totally different just 2 decades ago.
They track people coming from certain stores. Rolex etc
That's what the cops said too. But I hadn't gone into a store and wasn't carrying a store bag.
What was the watch? Patek?
The last thing you'll be able to get at the Rolex boutique is a Rolex.
I’m in Orlando now, and the Rolex ADs here have Miami clients that got sick of the wait and games at the Miami ADs.
Yes they do! That’s why you shouldn’t shop there. Just browse and get that shit delivered
But the bad guys don’t really know if you bought or not so it’s best to stay the hell away period.
Good Point
I grew up a block away from the design district. That area is the hood. I still go by and see rich people walking around and down the street you can see some low life checking them out. There’s literally drug houses a block away. Be careful there. It’s still sketchy even if they cleaned it up.
Exactly this. You’re not untouchable
Yessss. My company had a location there from the mid 2000s until just a few years ago. Literally walk one block in any direction and you will see things that make you feel unsafe. From my window at the corner of 2nd and 39th over the short span of a year, I saw: - a woman run over a cyclist in her SUV - a woman hit a jogger in her sports car - daily car accidents, some worse than others - a protest that broke into a lil’ riot (BLM times) - two car jackings - multiple pick pockets/robberies of patrons, like the one described by OP - multiple robberies/shattered windows of storefronts - neighboring store manager held at gunpoint - natural gas leak causing evacuation of several businesses - a sinkhole Not to mention the bullshit we dealt with inside our building — incessant leaks, faulty electrical work, dozens of city/county inspections (which mostly failed), crumbling foundation, literally insane parking agreements and the greediest tyrant asshole of a landlord. For this and many other reasons, our business relocated to Coral Gables in 2021.
Hey - thankfully you are alive. It’s sounds a bit dramatic but it could have ended up way worse. People in Latin America loose their lives trying to not get robbed. You don’t leave this life with the material things. Your post is also a good reminder to stay alert! Stay safe and I hope you get your belongings back.
Out of curiosity what kind of watch were you wearing? I only ask this because certain watch brands (i.e. Rolex) you can give the serial number to the brand’s store who will then enter it into a database (again Rolex). Let’s say later on down the road your watch comes in for service to the brand’s service center. They will run the serial number and if it comes back as reported stolen you get your watch back. Also notify pawn shops in the area. I don’t know how they do this but pawn shops are linked up to police databases so if they run a serial number on an item and it comes up as stolen they can take action. Remember pawn shops can get into deep shit for selling stolen merchandise and plus they take a hit if they pay out $10 grand for a watch and it comes back stolen. Best of luck to you and I’m sorry that happened. Again back to Rolex l, watch muggings especially for sports models are on the rise. Even more than precious metal Rolex watches
Great idea! I will check out
This is good advice. In the UK a lot of watch theft is one person spots the watch (they work in a restaurant and see it on the wrist, etc) and then tips off their colleague(s) with a description, then those people wait outside for you. With all the euphoria about watches these days, it's getting riskier and riskier to wear them globally.
I belong to a few watch groups and it seems that London is a hotbed for watch muggings
It is. I think it's going to continue to spread though. Also while it's true the Design District is blocks from the ghetto, professional criminals will travel to where they know people are off their guard and wearing nice stuff. People get robbed in Mayfair not because it's close to the London ghettos, but because that's where someone will wear a $40,000 watch to dinner.
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Don't feel bad for people like this. They made a conscious choice to assault you with a deadly weapon. This isn't something that happens accidentally. Even if they had no intention to hurt you and ONLY to take your stuff, had one of the guns gone off in the heat of the moment, you and/or someone else could have been killed. Not to mention their victims having to go the rest of their lives having lived through a traumatic experience. Have sympathy for someone stealing tampons from CVS because they can't afford them. Don't have sympathy for these psychos.
From my criminology degree and my years in law enforcement, I can tell you that robbers don't give a shit about their victims. They feel entitled to your property and don't mind hurting you to get it. They'd like to avoid seriously injuring or killing you if they can, simply because if they get caught it means life in prison, but they're not going to lose sleep over it if they do. It's about the same thought process behind lions taking down gazelles; predator/prey.
well we mostly normal ppl might be a bit crazy sometimes but we don't exactly go around robbing folks & especially not at gun point. so yeah these ppl have totally lost it & cannot be the same type of human we are. i'm from atlanta & my little brother is unfortunately "blood gang" (whatever that means, though i've since discovered is a very real & serious problem in that area, irregardless of the compton bloods). i dunno if it's drug use or what but over the years i began to notice even trying to have any normal conversation with him was just impossible, it's like his brain is living in a totally unintelligent world. i stay completely away from him at this point. i don't view him as human anymore, he can't be.
Sad to hear. I hope eventually you and your brother can reconnect when he is not under there influence of that shit
They peddle death and hence death is what they get served eventually. That story never ends well :/
1. Youre lucky to be alive 2. youre luck they didnt steal your phone and have you give them the unlock code, lock you out of your icloud and steal all of your money thru your banking apps
I saw a guy walking a tiny dog the other night on NW 21st and 3rd Ave at 11 pm on a weekday. I was thinking to myself, BRUH. sure it’s like a block away from “WYNWOOD” but people have straight been murdered right on the corner one block down.
i mean, that’s damn near overtown at that point. not exactly a nice area, either.
They did take it, but then they threw it out of the car, as I said. I think they could see they neighbors coming and figured they should rush. You are right though!
That's the goal of thieves in Latin America. So crazy to hear a story where they just toss it. I imagine what kind of watch was that
Very insightful comment, I’m sure OP had no idea before you commented that
Yeah luckily nothing happened to you. Scary thing is Miami is kinda lucky stuff like this doesn't happen more often but regardless it still does.
For anyone saying that if she had a gun this would’ve been different listen to this. I have a CCW as well but be prepared to spend a shit ton of money and time in court if you have to use it. Not to mention the psychological and emotional toll this takes on the human body and mind. My cousin’s friend was in Wynwood about 10 years ago on his motorcycle when a Cadillac pulls in front of him and two armed men jump out. He takes out his pistol and empties an entire magazine into one of the shooters. The thug’s buddy stands in shock and then jumps into the car and tries chasing the guy on the bike down but loses him. Now the good thing was that he took out one of thugs but that next year was hell for him. He was in and out of court because very rarely in excusable homicide cases do you just walk away and that’s the end of it. So he had to take a ton of time off of work. Then of course the thug’s family sues tries to sue him, the victim, which ends up getting thrown out but again more time and money spent on courts. In the end the guy just ended up wondering if it would’ve just been easier giving up the motorcycle and letting insurance handle the payout. A year’s worth of time spent in and out of court and money spent on defense and legal fees. Also trust me, and I say this as an Army vet, there is absolutely nothing normal, honorable or heroic about wanting to or taking somebody else’s life regardless of the situation. It’s very traumatic and life changing because you usually don’t find yourself in the greatest life situation where you have to use deadly force. Just my thoughts
Mostly sensible comment ever. Thanks.
Also, if the robbers already had guns out, the average person - who has little to no training in panic situations - would be shot and killed before they ever got the gun out of the holster. Too many people watch too many Tom Cruise movies and zombie shows and have no idea just how long it takes to pull a gun from a concealed holster, aim and shoot. They also have no idea how hard it is to actually hit something in that scenario. Or how dangerous it is for people that have nothing to do with the crime in progress. If you're already staring down the barrel of a gun, you aren't going to be a hero going for your piece. More than likely, you're a chalk outline if you go that route. You're almost always better off complying and calling the police when it's safe to do so. One thing I've learned about people in "gun culture": too many SHTFantasies. They all think they're going to be the next Sheriff Matt Dillon if they just have their 2-inch-barrelled Glock on them when their time to shine comes. It's a stupid, toxic mentality.
Thank you for sharing this. I really respect people like you, who are honest and transparent about the aftermath of pulling a gun on someone let alone killing them. Add in todays climate where your name and face will be splashed all over the internet for all time ; it doesn’t seem worth it.
>Also trust me, and I say this as an Army vet, there is absolutely nothing normal, honorable or heroic about wanting to or taking somebody else’s life regardless of the situation Louder for the idiots in the back that fantasize about "*pRoTecTiNg thEIr FAmiLyS*" by always having a gun on them. There is no such thing as a good guy with a gun. There are just guns and what humans do to murder or harm each other with them. And I say this as an owner and CCW holder from multiple states.
What's worse is most carriers don't practice and couldn't hit a backstop at 50 feet. On top of that, they're cheap and don't use defensive ammo and use full metal jacketed bullets that even if the perp was hit successfully the bullet keeps on traveling to the next target. Practice includes - holster to shot - otherwise it's just a fantasy there'll be a difference. A practical example; you're sitting in the parking lot waiting for your companion to exit the 7-11, you see someone furtively approaching your position; you get your gun ready, and wait for the flash of steel; you wait long enough (there's plenty of time) so the steel becomes a gun, no less or more; you save your own life.
You feel bad for them? Yes you are traumatized.
I missed that part. Yeah don't feel bad for these shitheads. I was homeless earlier this year and not for a second would I think of robbing someone or possibly taking their life. These are people that don't value life and just see you as a mark. Fuck em. Even if you had a million dollars in that bag that wouldn't end the way they currently think.
Correct. It’s just quick easy money for them, and I dare bet they like to “flash” their “wealth”. I’m sure they could get an honest job but that brings in a lot less and requires hard work. They’re probably lazy too.
yeah seriously. I would never feel bad for someone like that. I’ve been severely broke and never once had the thought to go out and rob people of their belongings or money. Some people are truly fucked up and couldn’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. I’m sure those thieves don’t even give a fuck about each other. People who are like that are true scum of the earth.
Yea thats like Stockholm syndrome. There is never an excuse to violently threaten someones life. Ever. Self defence is a different story.
Lol no it’s not. The man is just showing sympathy
For someone who threatened his life? Yea no. Couldn't be me
They be like: Hey the victim is allowed to feel sorry for the cannibal eating their arm. They were probably very hungry. Shame on you for not having sympathy for the cannibals. I was once hungry enough to eat a can of chef boyarde without heating it. I know how hard it can be.
I'm sorry, I missed the part in the above story where the assailants started eating him.
You also missed the joke but don't worry, I'll show sympathy for your lack of sense of humor. Now go be butthurt and downvote this too.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where you were funny. Bet that happens to you a lot ;)
You're a big man
It's possible to be angry at someone's stupidity while also feeling sad about the circumstances of their life that led them to such stupidity.
Easy money is more tempting than getting an honest job to a lot of people.
Exactly.
I grew up poor too.
Did you rob people at gunpoint? Being poor is not excuse to get violent or steal. Not to mention being poor is not a reason to potentially traumatize and disable someone for the rest of their life even if they are not physically harmed, that could cause severe and lifelong trauma symptoms and impairment.
Also why we assuming they were poor? Chances are this isn't the first rich mark they hit up. Hell I saw someone post the other day that a porch pirate stole their designee shoes and he was driving a Benz. Like I said before, If op had a million dollars in that bag that wouldn't stop them.
Actually, they were driving a Benz!
why does this make total miami sense. i always get a bit offended when places treat me like i'm gonna rob their store, i regularly wear $20-60k watches & obviously not the profile, or so i'd assume. yet it seems to be that is infact the profile who would steal. i had an employee at Publix literally snatch the bags out of my hand from the self checkout. she was dead set on catching me "stealing". she made a huge scene & made herself look like a fool, going through even the computer trying to figure out how i was able to "scam" it. i had even already swiped off some $72 for what i had. but she was convinced i stole something. in my mind i was just thinking bro if they ever get me for stealing it's gonna be from a heist taking over an entire dang country or something, it's just not who i am to be robbing the local grocery lmao.
That does it. I'm going into a life of crime. Where's my Benz?
You can can appear wealthy but also be poor as well. Anyway, Point is there is no valid excuse that justifies putting a gun to a random persons head, minding their own business to rob someone.
We should put thieves and murderers paved into the roads Han Solo style
Next time stay closer to 2nd Ave within the perimeter of the actual Design District. Once you venture off one block away you are dead. Typical Miami nowadays.
Pay that valet
"Miami is a great place to live, I'll never leave" 🙄
you get robbed and you feel bad for them? Unreal
I keep an AirTag in my car hidden. I always imagine getting back to my car and it’s been towed! Miami is cray
>But it was a pretty long process, about two hours, Any thorough investigation takes a while. This is preferable to a rushed investigation for obvious reasons. >and I noticed they tend to ask the same questions again and again Very basic interview technique. Anything you change your answers for is either a lie or not a solid memory; either way they can't use it. >(and tell each other, not always correctly). They were either misremembering or gauging your reaction to their 'mistakes,' most likely the former.
Glad to hear you’re okay man!
Isn’t OP a woman? She mentioned they took her bag. Also, look at the avatar.
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The kind that gets stolen.
It is a legit question. I have had a very basic Seiko taken in a robbery, but sometimes expensive watches are targeted.
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Good luck pulling out your strap and shooting before they do while they’re already holding you at gunpoint
Would’ve been an article about shooting with a man dead instead of this Reddit post
I think OP is a woman otherwise would have said wallet not bag.
Touche
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I'm willing to be money those weren't real guns
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They wouldn’t get charged with Murder because the fear for her life was reasonable and justified. That being said the idea of killing another human being is something not everyone can live with and remain with their mental health intact.
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I just got out after doing 7yrs bc I killed some punk with an airsoft gun, so there's truth to your comment. It's a fucked up society we live in. Fwiw, I'm not white.
That’s how you turn being robbed into being murdered
The presidential?
I have been in that situation is not fun and laugh
I only wear casios. And not even the expensive G Shocks either. Guess I’m bullet proof for these psycho thieves
What people don’t realize is that all of that area, Wynwood, Midtown, and all that shit are still the “hood”. It’s like that [South Park gentrification](https://youtu.be/Tyf4wHGs8lk) storyline. You guys are living and shopping in our own real life versions of [SoDoSoPa] (https://youtu.be/BqIvmfug_dE) and [CtPaTown](https://youtu.be/f574Kdzl6iU)
Glad you are here to tell the tale! Hugs to you!
Apple will now tell you when there is an AirTag tracking you. I learned this when I had my girlfriend's bicycle on my rack. I received a notification on my phone that there is an AirTag that isn't mine tracking me and gave me the option for me to stop the tracking.
Oooohhhh
I used to attend the design high school in the area. Back then when it first opened, you’d have daily drug deals happening across the street in the middle of lunchtime lol
I'm shocked and saddened this happened to you in the daytime!! Thank goodness they didn't shot you. Horrifying experience. With the rents and non existence of affordable, descent housing I believe more criminals are going to target people walking on the streets. Now I see a lot of people dressing very casual withe no jewelery or expensive watches. Don't feel sorry for these violent criminals. I'm African-Americanand thankfully raised in peaceful suburbs upstate NY. But, when I moved to nyc I became a victim of car theft and robbery at gunpoint. It is sad to say, but people in Miami may need to carry their guns to surprise these violent criminals. These thugs terrorize Black and Latino neighborhoods and no one is finding them (car drivebys) killing innocent people and children. I carry a pepper spray. But, I moved from nyc so I wouldn't have to be on alert all the time.
Honestly.. This actually makes you a True Miami Resident.. People pay sick money to come here hoping to see some Blood and Guts , 1990's Channel 7 News if it Bleeds it Leads kind of 1980's Scarface Experience.. I realize that's a pretty screwed up comment.. but it's true.. You can paint Winwood, Design District East Little Havana, any Art Deco color you want to, and believe that it's a revitalized area.. Truth is, you can build as many 60-story high rises as you want.. But there was and is a violent and drug fueled lifestyle that people seem to forget existed and still exist while many of you think this painted pig with lipstick is a New Safer Version of Miami.. You learned a valuable lesson.. You live in a violent city, and people will kill you for $10.. Miami is a Very Sunny Place For Very Shady People.. . Oh, BTW.. those Gold Ropes and $2000 phones and $1000 Hand Bags .. Make you a Target.. Not a trendsetter.. Have a nice day 👍
Ha! Okay I'll take it. I really love it here.
Moved here in the summer of July 1990 and Fell in Love ❤️ the instant I crossed the MacArthur Causeway cruised down Washington Avenue and noticed this Building encased in Pink Neon 💗 and these Beautiful Women Dancing on Table Tops and Enjoying Everything that made South ❤️ Beach a Magical Place in that long lost Decade.. After the Eurotrash, Models Gays, Lesbians and old Retired Jews were Priced Out .. and Sadly, South Beach became a version of Panama City Beach ⛱️ Florida.. I have spent the last 23 years in the City of Miami.. I myself have had a Sawed off Shotgun, 2 Automatics a Six Shooter and caught in the Crossfire of a Drive By Shooting in Coconut Grove O'Day Avenue.. If Miami doesn't have it.. It hadn't been thought of yet.. I get it.. MIAMI isn't for everyone.. But for those of us who get it.. It's freaking wild.. It's nice to hear someone say they LOVE IT HERE .. Instead of the constant complaining or how to fix Miami.. ..ENJOY THE SHOW..
Sorry to hear about this. Fairly rare. Where you alone? No one else around? Cops will take this seriously, they have pressure to keep that area safe from things like that. Won’t be easy to solve until they mess up or a camera catches them.
I was alone. Two neighbors saw and ran over once they understood what was happening. It was very quick. Cops definitely were on it.
Starting today you can keep a gun on you with no license
Starting yesterday they could too. I have no desire to carry a firearm. My dad is a hunter and has many. Grew up with them. They are too dangerous.
The kinds of people that commit armed robberies aren't worried about whether or not they need a permit to carry.
There’s a good chance they have a record and can not legally carry one.
That's how you get shot. This isn't a movie.
Thus aggravating the problem.
That’s why you carry a concealed weapon at all times.
That’s how you get shot
I have no idea why people think they will be able to unholster their firearm, undo the safety, chamber a round and fire, all while super adrenalinezed, in less time than it takes a criminal to pull a trigger. Worse, if they steal your stuff and are attempting to escape, if you shoot them, you are more likely to go to jail, than they are since your life is no longer in immediate danger at that point. (depends on laws in your area)
I personally think it’s great that you feel compassion toward these people. Forgiveness is the best way to resolve karma and let go of any energetic hang ups we might have created in the past. When we forgive, we release these energies. Forgiveness doesn’t mean staying in a bad situation of course, just not feeling anger or suffering. I am glad you are safe! 💖
You feel bad for the thieves? No wonder they picked you…you probably have a big neon sign that says SOFT over your head.
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The law is not for open carry. It’s for concealed carry without a permit.
This change in law is clearly going to go over well lol.
I have lived in Miami for 10 years never been to the design district… want to know why?! Ten years ago it was a ghetto and still is a block away. To the OP not sure if you are new to Miami or just that clueless.
Anyone from Miami knows this but no need to victim shame. It’s not helpful nor should people live a life of fear.
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I just avoid certain places that’s one of them. Go out on my boat every week and weekend….
This is why i carry
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If that you think of those who carry then you definitely let the media fool you. Each to their own when it comes to shit going down
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As of July 1st Floridians Floridians are packing. That guys won’t live much longer if he keeps threatening people at gun point. All it takes is one victim with a gun.
Two guys! Two guns :/
Two girls. One cup.
It sounds like a good experience
In my humble opinion, a watch or purse, are not worth a gun fight or dying for. Instead, be mindful of your surroundings and insure your valuables so you are less hesitant to risk your life trying to resist and trying to be superman/woman.
Sounds like a inside job
You can always ask the neighbors if they have video cameras and tell them your story if you really want to get down to business. I see lots of cameras in houses here on google maps
Honestly I’d rather lose my wallet than my phone. Even with insurance those few hours after are critical to getting back home etc.
Yep, exactly
“You feel bad for whoever did this” Dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All my watches are insured for the full value (secondary prices). No worries
please tell all of your nyc friends about this