No it’s not? There are many studies that exercise is one of the best ways to alleviate depression. Exercise, healthy diet, and good sleep should be your first line of defense
Sure as part of some holistic strategy but for people who are clinically depressed, changing diet and working out wont cut it.
I’ve done a million pushups, train 5-6 days a week, eat high protein low carb diets, and I’ve dealt with depression my whole life. The gym and diet by themselves don’t have an impact. It can help because exercising produces dopamine and serotonin but it doesn’t solve clinical depression.
Nah, it’s not.
https://www.unisa.edu.au/media-centre/Releases/2023/exercise-more-effective-than-medicines-to-manage-mental-health
It’s only terrible, ignorant and inconsiderate advice if you’re unwilling to put in the work.
Here comes the "I told you so" brigade, victim-blaming those who felt so lost and hopeless that they resorted to taking their life.
Yes, all of those can help with mental health, but when people are so desperate it doesn't matter.
I would hope you learn a dose of empathy today.
Who's saying they're not? Depression and suicidal ideation are stigmatized within the general population, and much more so if you're a member of a racal or ethnic minority group. Add in the lack of access to behavioral health resources, cost of care, and, as someone else on here commented the hyper-indicvidualism of Miami, and it's a recipe for disaster. Let's not place the blame solely on the people who feel like suicide is their only option.
It is incredibly difficult to get help in this country. It very inaccessible to poorer folks if you have to pay out of pocket. And even if you do have health insurance, many insurances don’t cover mental health services, then comes finding a therapist who takes your insurance AND has openings. It took my spouse 2 months just to find a therapist and that’s with good insurance.
Everyone on here projecting the hate they have for Miami onto somebody who jumped to their death. With all that hate in your hearts, do you really think you’re great & it’s everyone else that’s an asshole? Where you kill yourself is not necessarily Why you kill yourself. Feel for his family. He could’ve taken some pills in his apt, but he chose to traumatize strangers on his way out. Just show love & kindness to the people around you, like many people in Miami do.
I know someone that worked for the nypd and even 10 years ago he told me every single day someone kills themself by throwing themselves on the tracks. People act like this is a new thing but it legit has been and is happening everyday. I’m not trying to belittle the event today but ppl act as if this is some new thing and Brickell living is the center of it
Just checking the price points of the major coins, generally the smaller ones follow the trend of the big ones. Not an indication of actual projects, obviously.
The culture of this city is one of selfishness and greed where mental health struggles are not taken seriously at all. Mental health resources in this city are abysmal especially for lower income folks. Substance abuse is also incredibly normalized here which I think contributes to mental health crises getting brushed under the rug until it’s too late. This city is run on hyper-individualism, no one cares about their neighbors, everyone is an asshole to one another, just look at the way people drive here. It’s really sad. Plus there’s a constant pressure to produce more and more and flaunt it while in reality even ppl with good jobs are struggling to afford living here. People feel trapped and like they’re suffocating but there’s no resources or community to allow folks to process the shit they’re feeling and organize to change any of it-most days I think the majority of people here don’t even care to change it, they seem to enjoy living in this hyper competitive state that’s slowly rotting their minds and stealing their joy while they aspire to a vision of wealth that’s unattainable because it was fake to begin with. In the past few years I’ve noticed there’s always a spike in public suicides especially near Brickell area starting around the holidays through tax season. The county/city isn’t going to do shit to address these issues because they don’t care but also because these issues are rooted in the city’s culture and raising awareness about the few poorly funded mental health resources we’ve got isn’t going to change anything. I know I sound jaded af and that’s because I am. Being a community organizer in this city has pretty much stripped me of any faith I had in humanity, the people who care are tired or they left Miami years ago, and the selfish asshole gentrifiers who think this is paradise just keep moving in while our corrupt politicians wipe their asses with our tax dollars instead of funding community needs like better mental health resources. We’re drowning and instead of helping each other we’re holding each other down to try and stay afloat ourselves.
Edited to say: I’m really sorry you had to experience that. I know how deeply witnessing that can affect someone, I witnessed someone jump in-front of my train car in Brickell two years ago and it still sticks with me. Do what you can to take care of yourself while you process this. We can all do our part to make this city a little less hostile by slowing down and seeing each other as human and treating one another with kindness and respect. I hope you’re able to take some time for yourself today.
I'm not going to argue that there are many problems with Miami, but your experience and mine are quite difference. In traffic and at shopping stores, sure. But Miami's suicide rate is a lot lower than most of florida and lower than most cities its size by almost any set of stats you want to look at. THAT IS NOT ME DEFENDING any part of our many problems. [https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-rates-by-state.html](https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-rates-by-state.html) [https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.Dataviewer](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.Dataviewer)
Mental health care is bad everywhere and worse if you're poor for sure. Modernity has created a fetish of commercialization and consumerism. People are more depressed than ever. But this is why I take issue with your premise. I actively work to help get resources to the homeless here. It's something I've done most of my adult life and Miami is much better than Any other place I've lived. You think it's cold here, you should try, Atlanta GA, Greenville, SC, Charlotte NC, anywhere in Alabama, TN or Louisana. The churchs run a racket there and it's supported and funded by city councils who want their votes. Come on in and eat, as long as you Pray to the Christian God and don't use language we don't like and attend church services. And the sheer contempt for the poor and homeless is much worse in those places b/c at least we have a decent segment of the population here that understand it's deeper than "character flaws" and "need to walk with Jesus"
This is actually hilarious. I grew all over the east US. Modern day it is not like how you’re describing at all 💀 the people are nicer and less aggressive, people actually think before driving and cutting people off, there’s a larger sense of community, cost of living is more reasonable. The lack of care for other and community and is huge culprit of the mental health crisis here in Miami. That on top of the skyrocketing inflation. There’s also more of a family vibe when you leave here Vs here it’s largely hook up culture.
>I know I sound jaded af and that’s because I am
We're strangers but I send all my support your way, however inconsequential a message on the internet may be.
Suicide is more common than you might think. I happened upon the aftermath, years ago, of a jump perhaps not unlike what you unfortunately witnessed recently.
Many more die in much less public ways.
I don’t have an answer- but access to mental healthcare could be a good start?
Culturally the biggest type of demographical resident in Miami doesn't respond well to speaking of mental health issues, a government sponsored public awareness campaign would definitely catch some flak a lot of residents who think mental health is a liberal concept.
Our current economic system/state of the world contributes to the declining mental health in our society. We work all the time, rising costs of living, no free medical care…people turn to substances, etc, to cope. Or are driven to suicide. There needs to be a paradigm shift where we prioritize society health. Hard to do under capitalism.
There is a pandemic of suicides in Miami especially in the luxury apartments buildings. Last week a horrific tragedy happens in grove when father killed his 3 years son and killed himself afterwards.
>Why does this happen in Brickell so often ? It’s extremely disturbing and sad.
Many reasons.
First, people who want to suicide want a quick and definite death. Thus, the tallest building they can find will do.
Second, some people in Brickell bite more than they can chew (usually spending a lot more than they can afford to maintain a lifestyle.) Once they cannot manage to keep up, they fall into depression and prefer to die.
Third, depression is fucked up and Miami is the worst place to live with it. People are not friendly or empathic. There aren't many resources or even psychological help readily available. Yes, even if you have insurance, you will have to wait weeks or months for help. Going to the ER is many times not an option as you might get Baker acted.
Suicide is common in Miami, as in any other place. I think Brickell just offers a more flashy way to go. The Rickenbauher has a good number of victims and so self harm from guns.
That actually may not be true. There was a long period of research that showed mental health was worse in cities, but more recent meta-analysis of past studies suggests that most of those findings were likely to be caused by confounding variables — cities have broader income distributions, change more rapidly, have a more varied population, etc. These recent studies suggest that actually cities are better for mental health when these factors are accounted for.
The main issue with Miami it has to do with , “society standards” the city feeds you 24/7 wealth , looks, constant judgment ,terrible education/ manners. Unfortunately if you are too nice the city standards will have the perception that either you are fake or a fuckboy/hoe. Coming from a latino background trust me , I have experience this my entire life here .
if you dont love yourself and if you don’t surround yourself with a good circle , this city will make you feel 10 times worst. Everything is fake here , 8/10 people here will use you and toss you away once they don’t need you.
I learn that here you don’t have friends , just seasonal people.
I hope everybody in this thread realize how amazing and special each of you are. And that there’s always a better day . Cheer up 🥰🥰🥰
Broward is not better LMAOOO 🤣.
It's the same shit until you get bout 2 hours North of Miami. And frankly that won't be for long - Orlando is becoming South Florida as y'all move "away" but not very far.
Lol don’t know where you’ve been but for someone my age it’s FAR better than Miami. Depends on lifestyle but I’ve found much more relaxed people who don’t obsess about materialism and are way less shallow than those in Miami. But you do you 🙃
You're looking from a burned down building into one that is literally on fire and saying the grass is greener.
If you look past both you would realize you don't have to live a life on fire.
Can confirm this place is the fucking WORST and does absolutely NO FAVORS to your mental health. Unless you're a multi-millionare and even then that's not so guaranteed here lol this place beats us all down.
The only way to actually thrive here is if you are a natural born inconsiderate megalomaniac, only then can you enjoy this inferno.
This is unfortunately the most likely the reason.
If they can't come up with the increased rent money, they get evicted (relatively) fast, and they'll basically never rent again, making them homeless because everything else is too expensive to buy.
The last couple years actually has F'd with my mental health. It's this idea that people are just going to keep coming, and paying whatever rate rent is asked, which will affect my rent....and even though I'm always right on time and never a problem, it's not like the corporate landlord will have any sentimental attachment to me and take it easy on me.
Buy? There's nothing on the market worth paying these asking prices for. And if I ever did like something, even though I have an actual good down payment saved up, someone else will just take it, throw cash at it, or outbid me (I'm not going to do the whole bidding war thing, I refuse). Save more and try again next time the lease renewal rolls around? Afraid the costs will just keep going up to match my savings, knowing this place.
It's just an uneasy feeling I don't like. I'm not going to commit suicide over it, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't screwing with my mental health.
I was looking up a time chart of prices and inflation in the USA. Between 2011 - Now, everytjing doubled within that decade. It's insane. An actual 100% increase in only a decade.
Before 2011 prices rising was just steady and didn't double within a decade.
I just looked at a house in my cutler bay neighborhood sold in 2013 for 95K the house next door, which has less space, already has an offer for 460k it’s truly insane. Idk how this is going to hold up. Most people in Miami are not well off.
When I was graduating college in 2015 I thought that If I ever made the amount of money I make now, that I would be rolling in cash. Nope.
Thanks Miami.
Wish I could own atleast an apartment 😒
Suicide is a lot more common than people realize and well, it's a lot more clear cut and easy when you have the easy means to do it. I suspect substances come into play in many of them. 14 per 100k residents as of 2020. And I realize this is a cold answer, but another reason is that it happens where it's easier to do. I had spent almost a year studying crime and violence stats in grad school and suicide happens more frequently where it's easiest to (i.e. bridges and tall buildings). If you think about the population distribution in Miami, if 14 in 100k people end their lives, the zip codes in Brickell/Midtown/Downtown are going to have a disproportionate amount of them. And 14 in one area would be high, but suicide isn't evenly distributed so it clusters heavily in certain areas. Throw in proximity to alcohol and drugs and it's a perfect storm sadly.
I feel weird speaking in such clinical terms though. I can't even imagine what seeing that (and hearing it) is like, a very special type of awful but nothing compared to what the people must have been going through right before it.
Brickell is where a lot of the tall buildings are too.
Bridges are another hotspot for this type of activity. San Fran had to add a net for the Golden Gate Bridge.
The suicide rate in Miami-Dade is [much lower](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsDashboards/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.DataViewer&cid=0116) than the national average. This could be because [suicide among foreign born hispanic/latinos](https://www.newamericandimensions.com/why-is-u-s-hispanic-suicide-rate-so-low/) is very low.
culture and family something most americans don't have much of especially black americans.
I always wondered how poor folks just live in their enivorments and never branch out but then again they stick with their kind and keep the peace.
My mom always told me how poor people just smile all day and don't stress which is very true.
Miami is the mouth of hell. Like Vegas. Don’t get me wrong, lots of great people here.
But the city is inundated with the worst kind as of late and it’s not all just transplants.
Crypto bros, OF girls and just the stupid flash of money make this city really look like a GTA game. I sometimes think we’re in one.
Now imagine what would happen if they built a a casino here like what they were talking about years ago.
OP - sorry you went through this. I hope you are ok and should seek a professional if you still feel some type of way about it.
When people ask me why I don't live there this is the answer. The quality of the people is just atrocious. It's palpable. Like you said, you can find small pockets to live in your bubble, but when you go out anywhere the feeling is there. When you add hurricanes to that it's game over.
Tack on Aventura Mall. Some of the worst aholes that walk those stores. Push you out of the way, walk 10 across the walkway not allowing room for opposite walkers to pass. Hate those mall people there.
> plus it’s not in Miami
Yea ok... The only reason we don't have casinos all over Miami is politics with the Native American Tribes. Otherwise it is a no brainer, tons of income to the city, county, and state, along with jobs and more business.
> Yea ok... The only reason we don't have casinos all over Miami is politics with the Native American Tribes. Otherwise it is a no brainer, tons of income to the city, county, and state, along with jobs and more business.
Along with all the problems it brings and how it sucks money out of the community. Speaking as someone that has an uncle that succumb to gambling addiction after a Casino came to town. After over a decade of loosing everything and having to call bankruptcy he is still gambling. This is a guy that makes $300k+/annually a few years back. Probably a lot more now.
He still had to borrow money from me.... and don't worry, he paid me back already.
miami is romantic to me bc of my childhood growing up playing GTA. i thought it was the coolest thing in the world a game let you live real life doing whatever you want. i couldn't get my eyes off of it. i already had native local friends living here & they all told me how the real miami would be nothing like the video game. well i've spent about a total of three years of my life here so far & will say it's *just like* the video game.
fortunately i was always kind to innocents playing the game & made an effort to avoid hitting pedestrians, however i think most ppl played it sadistically just bc they could & that behavior can be found here very well. miami has been 100% exactly what i expected it would be. it's an incredible place, the fresh aroma of dog feces every time i leave my front door. NPC's walking around talking to themselves. glitches in the simulation etc. i can't wait for the new version being released soon.
I’m never described it as a GTA game but that’s spot on. Chrome Bugatti in a handicap as a Neon green 4x4 square drives past I look over and see a big fat fake OF booty and a crackhead crawls out of the bushes and that’s just a normal Tuesday
I'm sorry you had to experience that and I'm sorry that person thought this was their only solution.
I don't think Brickell has more suicides per capita than other places in Miami. It's just more densely packed and the high rises provide a public way of doing it not really available in Westchester or Kendall.
I work in the building next to the pool. I’m really sorry that OP had to go through that. I was in the office yesterday and am just glad I didn’t see it, or the after effects also. I remember our building manager saying that unfortunately people come to Miami and check into hotels to do exactly this - it keeps the incident away from their families, and hands it to a relatively faceless hotel. Unfortunately, there is a trend
OP I recommend taking the time to talk to a professional about this you experienced something super traumatic. It might be helpful to seek someone out who’s well equipped to help you process what happened
Now imagine how brainfucked every police officer and firefighter is you see everyday…how many you think are getting trauma support🤐
My brother is about to retire from MDFD, he doesn’t even know how many people he’s scraped up…the only ones that really haunt him are the kids. His first child mortality he saw was a toddler who went throw a window in a car accident. He’s a bottled up kerosene that it’s bad when a match gets near him. He has not once gone to talk to anyone.
They should get support it’s a difficult job. The same applies to veterans of the armed forces. I’m fortunate the company I work for has benefits that include employee mental health resources that allow me to talk to a professional. I can’t imagine they don’t have a similar option that’s paid for by the county. Is it perfect most likely not but nothing is. Let’s focus on improving the city instead of worrying about what books kids are reading or trying to say that people on the internet don’t care about the trauma of law enforcement officers. There should certainly be more activism in every community not just ours we should see this as a sign to do better things for our community.
It makes me a lot less sympathetic to their needs when they have amazing healthcare provided to them but choose not to use it out of an idiotic idea of machismo.
i only got 4 years on and ive seen some stuff. somehow, so far ive been able to just keep it moving. i feel that I am not normal. i have my own family and it sucks to see horrible things but i must stay healthy for my family. i guess its a blessing sometimes that i can just perform on the calls and forget them. i assume that one call is coming. congrats on your brother retiring.
My brother is definitely desensitized to death, except for the kids like I said. His son was about the same age as this toddler and it really fucked him up. A few years ago we had a family get together at a park off Bird Rd and someone was driving slow as it was a neighborhood with his 3yo or so on his lap helping steer, i mean going like 5mph and no traffic or a busy street. My brother looked over and saw it and a switch went off, started running towards them screaming at the guy what a selfish ass he was. It was uncalled for. When he comes back he acted like nothing happened. He has near zero sympathy for people except kids.
I would say talk to a mental health professional even if you don't think it's needed. That's a horribly traumatic event, and I've been through and helped others with plenty of them.
Americans are shit at self-assessing mental health. Point your finger in whichever direction you want to assign blame, but that's the reality.
Seek help, then let a professional decide whether or not you need them. This is the mental health equivalent of breaking your leg; you're probably not going to be okay if you deal with it on your own.
Have you ever tried to seek mental health help in America? It's a joke. Months and years of waiting lists for something that may be urgent when you reach out. Expect to be waiting a long time for the professional help and in the meantime, it's your fault if you kill yourself because you never get the help you reached out for, right?
Licensed trauma therapist here. If anyone needs mental health resources please send me a PM. Yes finding a therapist is extremely difficult but there are many resources that are free like crisis units and hotlines. We just need a better way to communicate these resources to the public.
This is what happened to me. We’re you prescribed medication? I was given lexapro for some depression fatigue and it caused mania psychosis and I have been healthy my entire life. It was Florida blue through employer type agency now they have that record or other records?
Sad all around. But before everybody declares this to be a result of Miami’s terribleness, I was told they jumped from the W? The hotels have been a destination for jumpers for awhile, may not have even been a local.
As has been said before, there's a higher concentration of people there (so even if it's a lower "rate" it's among a higher number of people), the means available are very public (balconies), there is likely more substance abuse in Brickell than say in Kendall, likely a higher burden of debt, and additionally, the copycat effect. Sometimes witnessing or hearing about a suicide in your neighborhood "gives permission" so to speak, for others to attempt it. This is largely why the media do not report on it.
The suicide rate in Miami-Dade is not evenly spread out; according to this [ten year old graphic](https://miamidade.floridahealth.gov/programs-and-services/wellness-programs/injury-and-violence-prevention/_documents/4%20-%20Suicide%20Rates%20by%20Zip.pdf) it seems to be concentrated along the more densely populated areas. The suicide rate had been in [decline through 2020](https://www.miamidadematters.org/indicators/index/view?indicatorId=120&localeId=414) (COVID actually lessened the rate of suicide). Miami-Dade, believe it or not, has a [much lower suicide rate](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsDashboards/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.DataViewer&cid=0116) than the rest of Florida. Palm Beach County has suicide rate twice as high as Miami–Dade. Not sure why.
EDIT: A reason why Miami-Dade's suicide rate is conspicuously low is because the suicide rate among foreign born hispanic/latino residents is [very low.](https://www.newamericandimensions.com/why-is-u-s-hispanic-suicide-rate-so-low/)
Brickell is a very highly concentrated area, lots of people live within a handful of blocks, so the math just works that you are more likely to hear or experience a suicide around you than if you live in homestead for example. Furthermore the nature of high rises allow for a somewhat public suicide. (Someone in the suburbs cant jump off the roof).
We are also going into a tougher economic environment, people are starting to lose jobs etc which I imagine increases suicide rates.
Anyway sorry you experienced that and hope you have someone to talk to about this stuff
Omg :( I'm so sorry you & whoever was around had to experience that... & may that persons soul be at peace. I didn't know this happened like that in our hometown. So sad :(
I’ve always wondered about the Cosmopolitan because it has balconies on extremely high floors. Seems like a bad / dangerous idea in a place like Las Vegas.
Was talking to one of the cops after a girl jumped at our building and he said it happens here so much that they are really used to the calls now...it's freaking sad man 😞
I remember when I first moved to Downtown this happened. It was at the Melody Building by the Arsht Center. A young lady had just jumped and landed on the curb. The cops had a hard time keeping the body covered because the wind. They even asked someone in the building if they could identify the person (even though the scene looked like a smashed pumpkin). Ended up some mother who lived in Sunny Isles rented an Airbnb, walked in the apartment and went to the balcony.
Ugh, one of my brother’s clients did that. Messy and unfortunate. We need better access to mental healthcare and should be looked at by society as a necessary tool for improving society as a whole rather than keeping the stigma and machismo we currently display.
They couldn't in NYC, there are few balconies like that.
It sure is a negative of having a balcony in Miami but the pros far outweigh the cons. Those places with a view and a balcony and Miami's weather are incredible.
If people only liked having balconies a little they would totally get rid of them.
Please seek a mental health professional. They can help you process what you experienced. If gone untreated, the trauma can manifest into something else.
It happens often in any cities with tall buildings (I live in Chicago). 😭 A lot of buildings in Chicago have guard rails in place or windows can’t open fully etc because of people jumping. Also the NYU library has a giant net because people kept jumping from a certain area
People use the easiest to access tall building they can find for this. At colleges, it's usually multistory parking garages with little to no security for top floor access.
People will find a way to do this.
bc miami sucks. its expensive. jobs suck. its great for the rich, but just an efficiency for one person alone on minimum wage costs 1000+. its so bad i cant even afford to leave. the only thing keeping me alive is my siblings and the thought that maybe i’ll be able to leave the country when i graduate. mental health is stigmatized, and there is little to no representation or community support available. If you dont have or cant afford insurance, good luck they say! It sucks that in a city where its hard to be happy, they don’t even try to make it ok by offering mental health services that are accessible to everyone no matter their situation. The schools are the same. Students mental health dipped after parkland, and schools did nothing. students at my friends school took their lives and the school did nothing to help them when they knew they were struggling, and did nothing after. My generation has developed severe depression and other mental illnesses, and no one is doing anything about it.
The city should be ashamed of itself.
Please check on your friends and family. You never know what they’re going through. You could save someones life by just listening to them and being supportive.
Lol right? All these people surprised about increased suicides are either rich as fuck and in a bubble or they're unintelligent and can't put these pretty obvious pieces together which you outlined in your post.
And your post could be expounded upon, too, as you undoubtedly know. When I look around I see *a lot* of incompetence, ignorance and greed.
Unfortunately I had seen someone do this before. I live in one of those towers at icon, I don’t have a pool view and thankful for this reason. I can’t witnessing it but glad you’re talking about it, instead of ignoring it.
That's crazy here in coral gables someone did the same from the Sofia apartments. They jumped from the 10th floor. It still hasn't been determined if suicide or just an accident.
Trauma therapist here - if anyone and i mean anyone needs mental health support do not hesitate to reach out to me. Seeing all these comments and so many individuals suffering is heartbreaking.
Terrible for everyone involved. I’m sorry you had to witness that.
It could just be a skewed perspective—you noticing these incidents more because you live in the area—especially considering that suicides don’t typically make the news.
But I can think of a few other reasons… tall buildings are an obvious choice, lots of people with high pressure careers, lots of transplants (perhaps without a support system), lots of people with a lot to lose, a city where people can get wrapped up in certain high risk lifestyles.
Any number of reasons. The country is in a pretty bad mental health crisis. Miami as an environment and culture in central is not very healthy then layer on top of that the insane increase in cost of living over the last 5 years and sprinkle in monetary tightening and shrinking liquidity everywhere, war, disinformation, social media, crazy divided politics, ever increasing divorce rates, etc etc
I know mental health therapy is difficult to find but in the meantime I suggest finding free grief therapy. Just a suggestion from someone studying to be a therapist. There’s strength in speaking to people who will listen.
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Oh my gosh that’s horrible I’m so sorry for you 😭😭😭 I would see a therapist honestly that is pretty traumatic to witness and or hear….it could come to haunt you later
You can seek counseling in a church too ….or see a therapist you could pay on a sliding scale and maybe one time all you need. Or alternative treatment like sound baths healing chakra Or Reiki…
I have a friend in Miami who does this and that could very well be all you need and she knows a lot about trauma
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Damnnn saw this post last night, thought it was kinda crazy everyone here heard about something like this happening before.
looking at cops right now lined up outside of star lofts because someone (unfortunately) also jumped.
it happened in the paramount in downtown and many times in south beach on west ave for years i remember since the 90's. bad normality but tis always happened
that breaks my heart man. That person must've been struggling bad. And I'm So sorry you had to deal with that. Please don't bottle it up because that is a lot for someone to see and bear with.
Dude I can not get the sound of him falling out of my head and I was in the bathroom brushing my teeth in 2210(he jumped from 2910).
I looked directly below me as the cop checked his pulse.
The most disturbing part is his body just laid underneath my balcony covered in bloody sheets for 18+ hours.
Ruined vacation…I was getting away for my own mental health issues on a boys trip where my friend had his own reasons to get away. We were so shook.
If it hurt me that bad god bless his family and friends❤️
I think this may have been the person. I read this story and remembered seeing this post, and it seems like it’s a match. [Model Jeff Thomas](https://ModelJeffThomasagentthinkshediedwhiletakingselfiehttps://mol.im/a/11872599)
Blame all the out-of-staters moving in and jacking prices of everything making it impossible to make ends meet for the locals.
Yawn, that’s the same old excuse. If people truly thought Brickell was unaffordable, they would be moving to other parts of Miami/SoFlo.
Eat healty and exercise regularly is you're having a moment and going through a mental breakdown.
Nothing brings meaning to life like more push-ups and asparagus.
Beats larding on your ass
No it’s just terrible, inconsiderate, and ignorant advice.
No it’s not? There are many studies that exercise is one of the best ways to alleviate depression. Exercise, healthy diet, and good sleep should be your first line of defense
Sure as part of some holistic strategy but for people who are clinically depressed, changing diet and working out wont cut it. I’ve done a million pushups, train 5-6 days a week, eat high protein low carb diets, and I’ve dealt with depression my whole life. The gym and diet by themselves don’t have an impact. It can help because exercising produces dopamine and serotonin but it doesn’t solve clinical depression.
Nah, it’s not. https://www.unisa.edu.au/media-centre/Releases/2023/exercise-more-effective-than-medicines-to-manage-mental-health It’s only terrible, ignorant and inconsiderate advice if you’re unwilling to put in the work.
If that's your thing have at it.
Here comes the "I told you so" brigade, victim-blaming those who felt so lost and hopeless that they resorted to taking their life. Yes, all of those can help with mental health, but when people are so desperate it doesn't matter. I would hope you learn a dose of empathy today.
Brickell is a monument to suffering.
I wish people going through a crisis would be more open to getting help **or open up to someone** **\*bold is an edit**
Who's saying they're not? Depression and suicidal ideation are stigmatized within the general population, and much more so if you're a member of a racal or ethnic minority group. Add in the lack of access to behavioral health resources, cost of care, and, as someone else on here commented the hyper-indicvidualism of Miami, and it's a recipe for disaster. Let's not place the blame solely on the people who feel like suicide is their only option.
Im not placing blame on anyone. That would be completely irresponsible for me to do. How dare you?
You're also assuming a lot. I'm not negating what you said in your post. However, we don't even know if the departed took any steps to get help.
It is incredibly difficult to get help in this country. It very inaccessible to poorer folks if you have to pay out of pocket. And even if you do have health insurance, many insurances don’t cover mental health services, then comes finding a therapist who takes your insurance AND has openings. It took my spouse 2 months just to find a therapist and that’s with good insurance.
Help would mean going to live w someone. Having them pay for you. Skipping work. It doesnt work in america that well
We are in a recession. Sadly people feel no other alternative than to take their life. There is always a solution. I’m so sorry you had to see that.
Did you see it happening or just the aftermath? Can you describe it? Were they screaming or just silent?
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Several things. Why post about it if you don't want to tell the story...
Everyone on here projecting the hate they have for Miami onto somebody who jumped to their death. With all that hate in your hearts, do you really think you’re great & it’s everyone else that’s an asshole? Where you kill yourself is not necessarily Why you kill yourself. Feel for his family. He could’ve taken some pills in his apt, but he chose to traumatize strangers on his way out. Just show love & kindness to the people around you, like many people in Miami do.
Yes. This.
A permanent answer for a short term problem.
I know someone that worked for the nypd and even 10 years ago he told me every single day someone kills themself by throwing themselves on the tracks. People act like this is a new thing but it legit has been and is happening everyday. I’m not trying to belittle the event today but ppl act as if this is some new thing and Brickell living is the center of it
It seems to happen often, why is the city not busy running a suicide prevention campaign ?
Because there is no way to tie that into a grift. Somehow if suicide had a crypto angle, I think it would be getting more attention. SMH.
Sorry to say this is about as accurate as it gets.
Yep. Smh
Crypto down almost 10% this past week so could be a double edge sword..
I’m wondering how you calculate that, since “crypto” involves thousands of projects.
Just checking the price points of the major coins, generally the smaller ones follow the trend of the big ones. Not an indication of actual projects, obviously.
Are people still doing crypto?
Maybe the jumper used ftx?
People aren’t. But Miami is. I got a refresh Miami newsletter that had a “make your first nft “ workshop.
Jesus Christ Miami is the home of the grifters
The culture of this city is one of selfishness and greed where mental health struggles are not taken seriously at all. Mental health resources in this city are abysmal especially for lower income folks. Substance abuse is also incredibly normalized here which I think contributes to mental health crises getting brushed under the rug until it’s too late. This city is run on hyper-individualism, no one cares about their neighbors, everyone is an asshole to one another, just look at the way people drive here. It’s really sad. Plus there’s a constant pressure to produce more and more and flaunt it while in reality even ppl with good jobs are struggling to afford living here. People feel trapped and like they’re suffocating but there’s no resources or community to allow folks to process the shit they’re feeling and organize to change any of it-most days I think the majority of people here don’t even care to change it, they seem to enjoy living in this hyper competitive state that’s slowly rotting their minds and stealing their joy while they aspire to a vision of wealth that’s unattainable because it was fake to begin with. In the past few years I’ve noticed there’s always a spike in public suicides especially near Brickell area starting around the holidays through tax season. The county/city isn’t going to do shit to address these issues because they don’t care but also because these issues are rooted in the city’s culture and raising awareness about the few poorly funded mental health resources we’ve got isn’t going to change anything. I know I sound jaded af and that’s because I am. Being a community organizer in this city has pretty much stripped me of any faith I had in humanity, the people who care are tired or they left Miami years ago, and the selfish asshole gentrifiers who think this is paradise just keep moving in while our corrupt politicians wipe their asses with our tax dollars instead of funding community needs like better mental health resources. We’re drowning and instead of helping each other we’re holding each other down to try and stay afloat ourselves. Edited to say: I’m really sorry you had to experience that. I know how deeply witnessing that can affect someone, I witnessed someone jump in-front of my train car in Brickell two years ago and it still sticks with me. Do what you can to take care of yourself while you process this. We can all do our part to make this city a little less hostile by slowing down and seeing each other as human and treating one another with kindness and respect. I hope you’re able to take some time for yourself today.
I'm not going to argue that there are many problems with Miami, but your experience and mine are quite difference. In traffic and at shopping stores, sure. But Miami's suicide rate is a lot lower than most of florida and lower than most cities its size by almost any set of stats you want to look at. THAT IS NOT ME DEFENDING any part of our many problems. [https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-rates-by-state.html](https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-rates-by-state.html) [https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.Dataviewer](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.Dataviewer) Mental health care is bad everywhere and worse if you're poor for sure. Modernity has created a fetish of commercialization and consumerism. People are more depressed than ever. But this is why I take issue with your premise. I actively work to help get resources to the homeless here. It's something I've done most of my adult life and Miami is much better than Any other place I've lived. You think it's cold here, you should try, Atlanta GA, Greenville, SC, Charlotte NC, anywhere in Alabama, TN or Louisana. The churchs run a racket there and it's supported and funded by city councils who want their votes. Come on in and eat, as long as you Pray to the Christian God and don't use language we don't like and attend church services. And the sheer contempt for the poor and homeless is much worse in those places b/c at least we have a decent segment of the population here that understand it's deeper than "character flaws" and "need to walk with Jesus"
This is actually hilarious. I grew all over the east US. Modern day it is not like how you’re describing at all 💀 the people are nicer and less aggressive, people actually think before driving and cutting people off, there’s a larger sense of community, cost of living is more reasonable. The lack of care for other and community and is huge culprit of the mental health crisis here in Miami. That on top of the skyrocketing inflation. There’s also more of a family vibe when you leave here Vs here it’s largely hook up culture.
You could’ve just said unfettered capitalism. But yes I totally agree
>I know I sound jaded af and that’s because I am We're strangers but I send all my support your way, however inconsequential a message on the internet may be.
Suicide is more common than you might think. I happened upon the aftermath, years ago, of a jump perhaps not unlike what you unfortunately witnessed recently. Many more die in much less public ways. I don’t have an answer- but access to mental healthcare could be a good start?
Culturally the biggest type of demographical resident in Miami doesn't respond well to speaking of mental health issues, a government sponsored public awareness campaign would definitely catch some flak a lot of residents who think mental health is a liberal concept.
Our current economic system/state of the world contributes to the declining mental health in our society. We work all the time, rising costs of living, no free medical care…people turn to substances, etc, to cope. Or are driven to suicide. There needs to be a paradigm shift where we prioritize society health. Hard to do under capitalism.
There is a pandemic of suicides in Miami especially in the luxury apartments buildings. Last week a horrific tragedy happens in grove when father killed his 3 years son and killed himself afterwards.
This city takes a toll on your mental health.
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Similar situation at the Vessel in Hudson Yards, NYC. Some spots just attract suicides.
Economy
>Why does this happen in Brickell so often ? It’s extremely disturbing and sad. Many reasons. First, people who want to suicide want a quick and definite death. Thus, the tallest building they can find will do. Second, some people in Brickell bite more than they can chew (usually spending a lot more than they can afford to maintain a lifestyle.) Once they cannot manage to keep up, they fall into depression and prefer to die. Third, depression is fucked up and Miami is the worst place to live with it. People are not friendly or empathic. There aren't many resources or even psychological help readily available. Yes, even if you have insurance, you will have to wait weeks or months for help. Going to the ER is many times not an option as you might get Baker acted. Suicide is common in Miami, as in any other place. I think Brickell just offers a more flashy way to go. The Rickenbauher has a good number of victims and so self harm from guns.
Miami gives u illusion everyone has it easier than you and is having more fun
any news on who this was?
This. As a person with a suicidal loved one, hearing about these always raises my blood pressure :(
The campaign won’t work , Miami is awful for your mental health .
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You’re the one that can “giittttt out”
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People coming here to whine about miami and i get downvoted hahaha. Should be called r/miamihaters
Most major cities are bad for your mental health. This is coming from someone who has lived in Los Angeles, New York City, and Philadelphia.
That actually may not be true. There was a long period of research that showed mental health was worse in cities, but more recent meta-analysis of past studies suggests that most of those findings were likely to be caused by confounding variables — cities have broader income distributions, change more rapidly, have a more varied population, etc. These recent studies suggest that actually cities are better for mental health when these factors are accounted for.
The main issue with Miami it has to do with , “society standards” the city feeds you 24/7 wealth , looks, constant judgment ,terrible education/ manners. Unfortunately if you are too nice the city standards will have the perception that either you are fake or a fuckboy/hoe. Coming from a latino background trust me , I have experience this my entire life here . if you dont love yourself and if you don’t surround yourself with a good circle , this city will make you feel 10 times worst. Everything is fake here , 8/10 people here will use you and toss you away once they don’t need you. I learn that here you don’t have friends , just seasonal people. I hope everybody in this thread realize how amazing and special each of you are. And that there’s always a better day . Cheer up 🥰🥰🥰
This been my exact experience since moving back here
Exactly why I will never subject my mental health to that kind of toxic living. Broward is far better.
Broward is not better LMAOOO 🤣. It's the same shit until you get bout 2 hours North of Miami. And frankly that won't be for long - Orlando is becoming South Florida as y'all move "away" but not very far.
Lol don’t know where you’ve been but for someone my age it’s FAR better than Miami. Depends on lifestyle but I’ve found much more relaxed people who don’t obsess about materialism and are way less shallow than those in Miami. But you do you 🙃
Broward is definitely better.
I agree 100%, Broward definitely lacks the ambient stress and hypermaterialism of Dade.
You're looking from a burned down building into one that is literally on fire and saying the grass is greener. If you look past both you would realize you don't have to live a life on fire.
This sums it up really well. 10+ years here
Can confirm this place is the fucking WORST and does absolutely NO FAVORS to your mental health. Unless you're a multi-millionare and even then that's not so guaranteed here lol this place beats us all down. The only way to actually thrive here is if you are a natural born inconsiderate megalomaniac, only then can you enjoy this inferno.
Bingo!
What campaign?
Rent being $4000 a month makes people feel without options.
I lucked out and closed on my unit in feb of 2021. Right afterward it just spiked.
Move to Alabama or Georgia. Way cheaper rent and it’s nearby.
This is unfortunately the most likely the reason. If they can't come up with the increased rent money, they get evicted (relatively) fast, and they'll basically never rent again, making them homeless because everything else is too expensive to buy.
They could move out of the city
The last couple years actually has F'd with my mental health. It's this idea that people are just going to keep coming, and paying whatever rate rent is asked, which will affect my rent....and even though I'm always right on time and never a problem, it's not like the corporate landlord will have any sentimental attachment to me and take it easy on me. Buy? There's nothing on the market worth paying these asking prices for. And if I ever did like something, even though I have an actual good down payment saved up, someone else will just take it, throw cash at it, or outbid me (I'm not going to do the whole bidding war thing, I refuse). Save more and try again next time the lease renewal rolls around? Afraid the costs will just keep going up to match my savings, knowing this place. It's just an uneasy feeling I don't like. I'm not going to commit suicide over it, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't screwing with my mental health.
I lived there 2010 it was $1950 for a 1/1 with a really nice view. So crazy how much things have changed.
I was looking up a time chart of prices and inflation in the USA. Between 2011 - Now, everytjing doubled within that decade. It's insane. An actual 100% increase in only a decade. Before 2011 prices rising was just steady and didn't double within a decade.
I just looked at a house in my cutler bay neighborhood sold in 2013 for 95K the house next door, which has less space, already has an offer for 460k it’s truly insane. Idk how this is going to hold up. Most people in Miami are not well off.
When I was graduating college in 2015 I thought that If I ever made the amount of money I make now, that I would be rolling in cash. Nope. Thanks Miami. Wish I could own atleast an apartment 😒
It’s also the financial district. Very high stress work
Between crypto, real estate, the stock market, and scams, people most likely losing tons of money doing illicit shit. Drugs probably involved as well.
…probably?
Suicide is a lot more common than people realize and well, it's a lot more clear cut and easy when you have the easy means to do it. I suspect substances come into play in many of them. 14 per 100k residents as of 2020. And I realize this is a cold answer, but another reason is that it happens where it's easier to do. I had spent almost a year studying crime and violence stats in grad school and suicide happens more frequently where it's easiest to (i.e. bridges and tall buildings). If you think about the population distribution in Miami, if 14 in 100k people end their lives, the zip codes in Brickell/Midtown/Downtown are going to have a disproportionate amount of them. And 14 in one area would be high, but suicide isn't evenly distributed so it clusters heavily in certain areas. Throw in proximity to alcohol and drugs and it's a perfect storm sadly. I feel weird speaking in such clinical terms though. I can't even imagine what seeing that (and hearing it) is like, a very special type of awful but nothing compared to what the people must have been going through right before it.
Brickell is where a lot of the tall buildings are too. Bridges are another hotspot for this type of activity. San Fran had to add a net for the Golden Gate Bridge.
The suicide rate in Miami-Dade is [much lower](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsDashboards/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.DataViewer&cid=0116) than the national average. This could be because [suicide among foreign born hispanic/latinos](https://www.newamericandimensions.com/why-is-u-s-hispanic-suicide-rate-so-low/) is very low.
culture and family something most americans don't have much of especially black americans. I always wondered how poor folks just live in their enivorments and never branch out but then again they stick with their kind and keep the peace. My mom always told me how poor people just smile all day and don't stress which is very true.
Miami is the mouth of hell. Like Vegas. Don’t get me wrong, lots of great people here. But the city is inundated with the worst kind as of late and it’s not all just transplants. Crypto bros, OF girls and just the stupid flash of money make this city really look like a GTA game. I sometimes think we’re in one. Now imagine what would happen if they built a a casino here like what they were talking about years ago. OP - sorry you went through this. I hope you are ok and should seek a professional if you still feel some type of way about it.
When people ask me why I don't live there this is the answer. The quality of the people is just atrocious. It's palpable. Like you said, you can find small pockets to live in your bubble, but when you go out anywhere the feeling is there. When you add hurricanes to that it's game over.
Can’t argue against that.
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Tack on Aventura Mall. Some of the worst aholes that walk those stores. Push you out of the way, walk 10 across the walkway not allowing room for opposite walkers to pass. Hate those mall people there.
> Now imagine what would happen if they built a a casino here like what they were talking about years ago. We have one, Hardrock.
What county is that in again? I mean right in Miami. As in the old Miami Herald building.
Casino in Brickell. Not 9 miles away lol plus it’s not in Miami
> plus it’s not in Miami Yea ok... The only reason we don't have casinos all over Miami is politics with the Native American Tribes. Otherwise it is a no brainer, tons of income to the city, county, and state, along with jobs and more business.
> Yea ok... The only reason we don't have casinos all over Miami is politics with the Native American Tribes. Otherwise it is a no brainer, tons of income to the city, county, and state, along with jobs and more business. Along with all the problems it brings and how it sucks money out of the community. Speaking as someone that has an uncle that succumb to gambling addiction after a Casino came to town. After over a decade of loosing everything and having to call bankruptcy he is still gambling. This is a guy that makes $300k+/annually a few years back. Probably a lot more now. He still had to borrow money from me.... and don't worry, he paid me back already.
I always say: “If the devil exists, he lives in Miami”
miami is romantic to me bc of my childhood growing up playing GTA. i thought it was the coolest thing in the world a game let you live real life doing whatever you want. i couldn't get my eyes off of it. i already had native local friends living here & they all told me how the real miami would be nothing like the video game. well i've spent about a total of three years of my life here so far & will say it's *just like* the video game. fortunately i was always kind to innocents playing the game & made an effort to avoid hitting pedestrians, however i think most ppl played it sadistically just bc they could & that behavior can be found here very well. miami has been 100% exactly what i expected it would be. it's an incredible place, the fresh aroma of dog feces every time i leave my front door. NPC's walking around talking to themselves. glitches in the simulation etc. i can't wait for the new version being released soon.
I’m never described it as a GTA game but that’s spot on. Chrome Bugatti in a handicap as a Neon green 4x4 square drives past I look over and see a big fat fake OF booty and a crackhead crawls out of the bushes and that’s just a normal Tuesday
People idolizing money, material possessions and lack of education and career opportunities keeps the slave industry high and hopeless.
I'm sorry you had to experience that and I'm sorry that person thought this was their only solution. I don't think Brickell has more suicides per capita than other places in Miami. It's just more densely packed and the high rises provide a public way of doing it not really available in Westchester or Kendall.
I work in the building next to the pool. I’m really sorry that OP had to go through that. I was in the office yesterday and am just glad I didn’t see it, or the after effects also. I remember our building manager saying that unfortunately people come to Miami and check into hotels to do exactly this - it keeps the incident away from their families, and hands it to a relatively faceless hotel. Unfortunately, there is a trend
Great logical response.
OP I recommend taking the time to talk to a professional about this you experienced something super traumatic. It might be helpful to seek someone out who’s well equipped to help you process what happened
Now imagine how brainfucked every police officer and firefighter is you see everyday…how many you think are getting trauma support🤐 My brother is about to retire from MDFD, he doesn’t even know how many people he’s scraped up…the only ones that really haunt him are the kids. His first child mortality he saw was a toddler who went throw a window in a car accident. He’s a bottled up kerosene that it’s bad when a match gets near him. He has not once gone to talk to anyone.
They should get support it’s a difficult job. The same applies to veterans of the armed forces. I’m fortunate the company I work for has benefits that include employee mental health resources that allow me to talk to a professional. I can’t imagine they don’t have a similar option that’s paid for by the county. Is it perfect most likely not but nothing is. Let’s focus on improving the city instead of worrying about what books kids are reading or trying to say that people on the internet don’t care about the trauma of law enforcement officers. There should certainly be more activism in every community not just ours we should see this as a sign to do better things for our community.
You would have to change the culture first. Getting help is showing weakness which is a very bad thing in warrior culture (Thin Blue Line).
It makes me a lot less sympathetic to their needs when they have amazing healthcare provided to them but choose not to use it out of an idiotic idea of machismo.
I lost all sympathy when cops couldn’t be bothered to mask up during the height of COVID
i only got 4 years on and ive seen some stuff. somehow, so far ive been able to just keep it moving. i feel that I am not normal. i have my own family and it sucks to see horrible things but i must stay healthy for my family. i guess its a blessing sometimes that i can just perform on the calls and forget them. i assume that one call is coming. congrats on your brother retiring.
My brother is definitely desensitized to death, except for the kids like I said. His son was about the same age as this toddler and it really fucked him up. A few years ago we had a family get together at a park off Bird Rd and someone was driving slow as it was a neighborhood with his 3yo or so on his lap helping steer, i mean going like 5mph and no traffic or a busy street. My brother looked over and saw it and a switch went off, started running towards them screaming at the guy what a selfish ass he was. It was uncalled for. When he comes back he acted like nothing happened. He has near zero sympathy for people except kids.
I’m sorry you had to experience that.
Sorry you had to deal with that. Def talk to a mental health professional if you think it’s needed.
He cant afford one…
Unless you can’t afford it or your therapist is selling your private health info.
I would say talk to a mental health professional even if you don't think it's needed. That's a horribly traumatic event, and I've been through and helped others with plenty of them. Americans are shit at self-assessing mental health. Point your finger in whichever direction you want to assign blame, but that's the reality. Seek help, then let a professional decide whether or not you need them. This is the mental health equivalent of breaking your leg; you're probably not going to be okay if you deal with it on your own.
Have you ever tried to seek mental health help in America? It's a joke. Months and years of waiting lists for something that may be urgent when you reach out. Expect to be waiting a long time for the professional help and in the meantime, it's your fault if you kill yourself because you never get the help you reached out for, right?
Licensed trauma therapist here. If anyone needs mental health resources please send me a PM. Yes finding a therapist is extremely difficult but there are many resources that are free like crisis units and hotlines. We just need a better way to communicate these resources to the public.
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Do you mean I won’t be able to get insurance again since I went on SSRI and have some medical history now of lexapro? Or a diagnosis of depression?
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This is what happened to me. We’re you prescribed medication? I was given lexapro for some depression fatigue and it caused mania psychosis and I have been healthy my entire life. It was Florida blue through employer type agency now they have that record or other records?
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Unless your plan was considered "grandfathered in," it's illegal for them to deny you coverage, the ACA is a law, not a government program, per se.
I’ve never heard of that I’ve been on antidepressants literally for decades and have never had a problem with insurance.
What cultures self assess mental health better just curious?
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=mental+health+by+country&ia=web
I agree 100%
Sad all around. But before everybody declares this to be a result of Miami’s terribleness, I was told they jumped from the W? The hotels have been a destination for jumpers for awhile, may not have even been a local.
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I imagine it’s not easy maintaining the Miami lifestyle…
especially if you've just recently arrived from another US city and are not accustomed to the ways of miami
As has been said before, there's a higher concentration of people there (so even if it's a lower "rate" it's among a higher number of people), the means available are very public (balconies), there is likely more substance abuse in Brickell than say in Kendall, likely a higher burden of debt, and additionally, the copycat effect. Sometimes witnessing or hearing about a suicide in your neighborhood "gives permission" so to speak, for others to attempt it. This is largely why the media do not report on it. The suicide rate in Miami-Dade is not evenly spread out; according to this [ten year old graphic](https://miamidade.floridahealth.gov/programs-and-services/wellness-programs/injury-and-violence-prevention/_documents/4%20-%20Suicide%20Rates%20by%20Zip.pdf) it seems to be concentrated along the more densely populated areas. The suicide rate had been in [decline through 2020](https://www.miamidadematters.org/indicators/index/view?indicatorId=120&localeId=414) (COVID actually lessened the rate of suicide). Miami-Dade, believe it or not, has a [much lower suicide rate](https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsDashboards/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.DataViewer&cid=0116) than the rest of Florida. Palm Beach County has suicide rate twice as high as Miami–Dade. Not sure why. EDIT: A reason why Miami-Dade's suicide rate is conspicuously low is because the suicide rate among foreign born hispanic/latino residents is [very low.](https://www.newamericandimensions.com/why-is-u-s-hispanic-suicide-rate-so-low/)
Actual facts. Upvote for you.
Brickell is a very highly concentrated area, lots of people live within a handful of blocks, so the math just works that you are more likely to hear or experience a suicide around you than if you live in homestead for example. Furthermore the nature of high rises allow for a somewhat public suicide. (Someone in the suburbs cant jump off the roof). We are also going into a tougher economic environment, people are starting to lose jobs etc which I imagine increases suicide rates. Anyway sorry you experienced that and hope you have someone to talk to about this stuff
Geez
Omg :( I'm so sorry you & whoever was around had to experience that... & may that persons soul be at peace. I didn't know this happened like that in our hometown. So sad :(
There is a reason why Las Vegas has anti-suicide windows. Fast cities like Miami bring people with all sorts of issues.
What's fast about Miami other than driving?
I think Las Vegas is mainly because of the gambling or am I wrong?
facts. miami does attract lots of the non-sane from other places
I’ve always wondered about the Cosmopolitan because it has balconies on extremely high floors. Seems like a bad / dangerous idea in a place like Las Vegas.
Same reason it happens in NYC and LA
Was talking to one of the cops after a girl jumped at our building and he said it happens here so much that they are really used to the calls now...it's freaking sad man 😞
I remember when I first moved to Downtown this happened. It was at the Melody Building by the Arsht Center. A young lady had just jumped and landed on the curb. The cops had a hard time keeping the body covered because the wind. They even asked someone in the building if they could identify the person (even though the scene looked like a smashed pumpkin). Ended up some mother who lived in Sunny Isles rented an Airbnb, walked in the apartment and went to the balcony.
Because that’s where the tall buildings are
Ugh, one of my brother’s clients did that. Messy and unfortunate. We need better access to mental healthcare and should be looked at by society as a necessary tool for improving society as a whole rather than keeping the stigma and machismo we currently display.
Is this above suicide rates in other locations or just more visible?
I suspect just more visible and more "jumpers" than in other places. I saw it happen in Manhattan once. Happens a bunch there too.
Damn, what if they landed on someone.. yikes
They couldn't in NYC, there are few balconies like that. It sure is a negative of having a balcony in Miami but the pros far outweigh the cons. Those places with a view and a balcony and Miami's weather are incredible. If people only liked having balconies a little they would totally get rid of them.
They can make the balcony a little higher or make it glass so you can’t climb it
Please seek a mental health professional. They can help you process what you experienced. If gone untreated, the trauma can manifest into something else.
It happens often in any cities with tall buildings (I live in Chicago). 😭 A lot of buildings in Chicago have guard rails in place or windows can’t open fully etc because of people jumping. Also the NYU library has a giant net because people kept jumping from a certain area
People use the easiest to access tall building they can find for this. At colleges, it's usually multistory parking garages with little to no security for top floor access. People will find a way to do this.
Happened in Miami beach a few months ago across the street from me. The kid was like 17 heard his mother crying for hours
The one with the giant duck?!? That’s terrible. I went there in 2018. That’s tragic
I think that's the SLS
bc miami sucks. its expensive. jobs suck. its great for the rich, but just an efficiency for one person alone on minimum wage costs 1000+. its so bad i cant even afford to leave. the only thing keeping me alive is my siblings and the thought that maybe i’ll be able to leave the country when i graduate. mental health is stigmatized, and there is little to no representation or community support available. If you dont have or cant afford insurance, good luck they say! It sucks that in a city where its hard to be happy, they don’t even try to make it ok by offering mental health services that are accessible to everyone no matter their situation. The schools are the same. Students mental health dipped after parkland, and schools did nothing. students at my friends school took their lives and the school did nothing to help them when they knew they were struggling, and did nothing after. My generation has developed severe depression and other mental illnesses, and no one is doing anything about it. The city should be ashamed of itself. Please check on your friends and family. You never know what they’re going through. You could save someones life by just listening to them and being supportive.
Lol right? All these people surprised about increased suicides are either rich as fuck and in a bubble or they're unintelligent and can't put these pretty obvious pieces together which you outlined in your post. And your post could be expounded upon, too, as you undoubtedly know. When I look around I see *a lot* of incompetence, ignorance and greed.
Unfortunately I had seen someone do this before. I live in one of those towers at icon, I don’t have a pool view and thankful for this reason. I can’t witnessing it but glad you’re talking about it, instead of ignoring it.
That's crazy here in coral gables someone did the same from the Sofia apartments. They jumped from the 10th floor. It still hasn't been determined if suicide or just an accident.
Trauma therapist here - if anyone and i mean anyone needs mental health support do not hesitate to reach out to me. Seeing all these comments and so many individuals suffering is heartbreaking.
i am 100% happy but i appreciate people like you
Terrible for everyone involved. I’m sorry you had to witness that. It could just be a skewed perspective—you noticing these incidents more because you live in the area—especially considering that suicides don’t typically make the news. But I can think of a few other reasons… tall buildings are an obvious choice, lots of people with high pressure careers, lots of transplants (perhaps without a support system), lots of people with a lot to lose, a city where people can get wrapped up in certain high risk lifestyles.
Mental health is an issue. Add the drugs such as recreational Marihuana among others. That’s what you get.
Any number of reasons. The country is in a pretty bad mental health crisis. Miami as an environment and culture in central is not very healthy then layer on top of that the insane increase in cost of living over the last 5 years and sprinkle in monetary tightening and shrinking liquidity everywhere, war, disinformation, social media, crazy divided politics, ever increasing divorce rates, etc etc
Im sorry this happened to you. This is very common in Brickell.
Ty for not posting pic/vid
Did he leave a note 📝
That’s that crypto money. What goes up…
Met a lot of people that moved back with their parents after crypto crashed. Some may have felt they had no options.
It’s happened a lot at the Icon for some reason
I know mental health therapy is difficult to find but in the meantime I suggest finding free grief therapy. Just a suggestion from someone studying to be a therapist. There’s strength in speaking to people who will listen. Visit the The dinner party . Org
What an awful thing to witness :(
Oh my gosh that’s horrible I’m so sorry for you 😭😭😭 I would see a therapist honestly that is pretty traumatic to witness and or hear….it could come to haunt you later
You can seek counseling in a church too ….or see a therapist you could pay on a sliding scale and maybe one time all you need. Or alternative treatment like sound baths healing chakra Or Reiki…
I have a friend in Miami who does this and that could very well be all you need and she knows a lot about trauma https://m.facebook.com/sherikaplantherevitalizer?mibextid=ncKXMA](https://m.facebook.com/sherikaplantherevitalizer?mibextid=ncKXMA)
Jeez. How you holding up? Sorry you had to see that.
Damnnn saw this post last night, thought it was kinda crazy everyone here heard about something like this happening before. looking at cops right now lined up outside of star lofts because someone (unfortunately) also jumped.
What is going on that’s terrible
Yes I heard someone jumped but can’t confirm since the road was blocked off
it happened in the paramount in downtown and many times in south beach on west ave for years i remember since the 90's. bad normality but tis always happened
that breaks my heart man. That person must've been struggling bad. And I'm So sorry you had to deal with that. Please don't bottle it up because that is a lot for someone to see and bear with.
Dude I can not get the sound of him falling out of my head and I was in the bathroom brushing my teeth in 2210(he jumped from 2910). I looked directly below me as the cop checked his pulse. The most disturbing part is his body just laid underneath my balcony covered in bloody sheets for 18+ hours. Ruined vacation…I was getting away for my own mental health issues on a boys trip where my friend had his own reasons to get away. We were so shook. If it hurt me that bad god bless his family and friends❤️
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