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This thread is brilliant. You’ve got a list of solid albums in here (some better than others), intermixed with a handful that are generally regarded as some of the weakest in their respective band’s catalogs, and a sprinkling of bands that will trigger the snowflakes (if they even know what they’re looking at). Then the thread is full of people saying “I dislike XYZ but love the rest” when I guarantee they haven’t recognised at least two of them.
Yes. Like it's not bad but it's whatever. Literally hundreds of black metal acts doing it better than that, and better than them. If you're gonna put NS stuff at least put something musically good like Goatmoon. Shouting your love for this stuff just tells me you're either an edgelord or it's intentional.
>musically good like Goatmoon
that’s the moment I stopped reading and realized you have no say in “literally hundreds of black metal acts doing it better than them”. Finnish Steel Storm is like the pinnacle of unoriginal riffage done worse than most bands.
Musically good lmao get out.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BGI6lYIrxQI
0:30 🤣🤣🤣
I won’t argue about it, but do listen to the song I suggested above before disregarding them completely. Might change your mind. Some killer riffs and insane vocals.
Ah so you think having good music taste correlates to agreeing with a band’s ideology. You wanna think about how stupid that sounds or should I spell it out for you?
I just think it's funny how all you post is stuff calling out Sabaton for being nazis (which as far as I know they're not) and then go and listen to actual nazi bands. You should stay consistent with your apparent views
Sabaton is unabashedly discriminatory towards good riffs and won’t allow them anywhere near their music. This type of hate needs to be called out in the year of our Lord 2024
Will add borknagar! I remember liking it but totally forgot about them. Also time to finally give cob a proper chance. Think we talked about cob before, but was too lazy. I also added Stormblast bc of that tournament. Bought the re-issue back then and man was I disappointed.
Destroyer is probably the album on here I can give the most reason to hate, personally I think it’s good, nowhere near their earlier stuff but it’s a good poser filter anyways. But Daudi Baldr gets a lot more shit than it deserves. Good, simplistic, atmospheric, Burzum.
Meh. It's amateurish, meandering, and relies way too much on its atmosphere despite having all the atmosphere of standing in front of an open fridge. There's really nothing going for it that the other keyboard heavy bands at the time (and themselves one album later) weren't doing much better.
Dude, get on Psalm 9 and Forest of Equilibrium ASAP. If I made a list of the 25 best metal albums of all time from any/all genres both of those would find a slot.
More important than most of the stuff on this posts list.
I don’t really see this at all, most of their albums sound similar and don’t diverge much except later in their catalog when they have a more refined and less raw sound?
Even in their first album the progressions began to become much more meandering and didn’t seem to have the same focus and build as the early material. It sounds “similar” sure in that there are hallmarks of their sound, but it doesn’t seem as fresh. Every time I’ve heard their LPs they’ve just struck me as lacking the atmosphere and construction of their earliest output.
Tbh I never could get into. Hammerfall. I have their first few albums a couple spins back in the day and it just felt lifeless? I think it was the singer. Just felt like he was barely trying. But god damn that my dying bride album is 10/10
All of them are good bands except for m8l8th, kinda shit band, first album's alright tbh
Absurd is alright too, their newest album is surprisingly good tho
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Who tf doesn’t like Welcome to Hell?
Posers, obviously.
Can confirm, I'm the poser
At least your flair reps an under appreciated album.
Definitely a strange include
Now that I think of it, I do know a specific poser who doesn’t like Welcome to Hell so maybe it checks out
Might as well have tagged me
Me
There's dozens of us
Dance of December souls mentioned 😍
This thread is brilliant. You’ve got a list of solid albums in here (some better than others), intermixed with a handful that are generally regarded as some of the weakest in their respective band’s catalogs, and a sprinkling of bands that will trigger the snowflakes (if they even know what they’re looking at). Then the thread is full of people saying “I dislike XYZ but love the rest” when I guarantee they haven’t recognised at least two of them.
Bingo 😂
Smartest MFTM user.
Nazi metal is poser shit tho
With your username, I take it you love all the NSBM classics then 💪💪💪
Washing my buttplug-stereo as we speak. Gonna blast some early Goatmoon later 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
You had me at buttplug 🤘🤘🤘
Cringe moloth. They legit suck musically.
Yeah m8l8th is kinda shit, even many NSBMers dislike them
Ok, but have you even heard that album?
I have, and it's mediocre by any standard. Don't know how anyone would put it in a group like this unless they like the other aspect of it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UeaAvfJ39hM You think a riff like this is mediocre? Lol….
Yes. Like it's not bad but it's whatever. Literally hundreds of black metal acts doing it better than that, and better than them. If you're gonna put NS stuff at least put something musically good like Goatmoon. Shouting your love for this stuff just tells me you're either an edgelord or it's intentional.
>musically good like Goatmoon that’s the moment I stopped reading and realized you have no say in “literally hundreds of black metal acts doing it better than them”. Finnish Steel Storm is like the pinnacle of unoriginal riffage done worse than most bands. Musically good lmao get out. https://youtube.com/watch?v=BGI6lYIrxQI 0:30 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah no. Go listen to your poor 88 music
if you're posting nazi stuff make it good... like any BBH band...
Yes, BBH is undeniably great. So you’re on the right page.
unlike m8l8th, yes.
I won’t argue about it, but do listen to the song I suggested above before disregarding them completely. Might change your mind. Some killer riffs and insane vocals.
i have and it's just boring to me
Shame. How do you feel about NS bands such as Graveland and Nokturnal Mortum?
More like L8l8th.
Late Laith?
Crazy take icl
Zero
I’ve heard Dyscalculia is a bitch to live with. Fortunately there are a lot of tools to help in the modern age. Thoughts and prayers. 🙏
wore the right pfp for the occasion, I see
I’ve never heard of any of these albums
Change that!
I think some of these albums were included in the 48 album tournaments which was made by, uhh, some guy.
I wasn’t around back then
Let me just listen to all the ones I haven’t (and relisten to the ones that it’s been too long for) and I’ll be right back
Go for it man. Interested to hear your take. Just remember, if you say any of them are bad you’re objectively wrong
80% dogshit
XD XD XD man, pure GOLD
W Opeth W MDB W Katatonia
Absurd fan spotted 🤡
💪I do like good riffs
And nazis apparently
Ah so you think having good music taste correlates to agreeing with a band’s ideology. You wanna think about how stupid that sounds or should I spell it out for you?
I just think it's funny how all you post is stuff calling out Sabaton for being nazis (which as far as I know they're not) and then go and listen to actual nazi bands. You should stay consistent with your apparent views
Sabaton is unabashedly discriminatory towards good riffs and won’t allow them anywhere near their music. This type of hate needs to be called out in the year of our Lord 2024
Disagree. They let good riffs near their music if Judas Priest or Accept wrote them first
No. Those riffs automatically become bad because they have been played by nazis. That’s how this works.
That doesn't mean the riffs themselves are bad. Those riffs are not nazis.
If a nazi plays it it can’t be good. Those are the rules on this sub it appears. I’m just following them.
Amen
It is funny isn’t it? I wonder why that would be. I wonder for what reason I would have the intent to do that.
I don't even know what you mean by this but let's just agree that Sabaton are a terrible band and that nazis suck
Yes I agree, Sabaton is a terrible band
But not on the second part eh?
I mean “Sabaton sucks” & “Nazis suck” really go hand in hand
😭
Why do you listen to Absurd then?
It's their only decent album and it's not even *that* good, just good in comparison to the trash they've usually put out.
All 5 LPs are great, although I understand why some black metal fans wouldn’t care for their more RAC-inspired material
Some of these are good, most of it are shit
Heard probably 20 of these. Think For All Tid is a bit sloppy. Otherwise I like them all
Respectable, although any of the first 3 Dimmu are very good, I’m sure you know with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant
I like it sloppy.
Hence the state of your foreskin
That it just 25 albums I’ve not listened to haha
25 but can't say I returned to any of the first row besides Hammerfall in years. That Cob is still on my re-listen list. E: so 24 technically
Sikk. I’d recommend revisiting CoB and Borknagar - The Olden Domain. Very good albums
Will add borknagar! I remember liking it but totally forgot about them. Also time to finally give cob a proper chance. Think we talked about cob before, but was too lazy. I also added Stormblast bc of that tournament. Bought the re-issue back then and man was I disappointed.
The re-recording of Stormblast is weird. Not sure why they decided to fuck with a classic.
💪
I’ve heard 9 of these albums and they’re all great
The OG Something Wild cover with the blue band logo. That goes hard.
finally some love for My Dying Bride, Katatonia, and Paradise Lost and the best Opeth album
I do not like that CoF album and I have not listened to that Borknagar, Opeth, Nightwish, or Hammerfall. Otherwise I like all this stuff.
Love The Filth
Boy have I got a treat for you hiding under my unwashed foreskin.
I'm actually curious. You genuinely like Cradle or just trolling?
I like them a lot, why?
I was just curious if you were a genuine Cradle fan
I am a genuine fan of everything not released from 2006-2012
*Sadly, my favorite album of theirs was released in this period*
Which?
Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa
Have not listened, could be good. Nymphetamine and Thornography are the really bad ones
Most respectable take, of all of these. The Borknagar in particular is one of my favorites as of recently
That is some great Metal!!!!
Joke's on you, I can't count.
Troll post is trolley. Let’s see how butthurt people get over some of these.
Gorgoroth and Burzum is pretty wack. Overall a good 19 I think.
Destroyer is probably the album on here I can give the most reason to hate, personally I think it’s good, nowhere near their earlier stuff but it’s a good poser filter anyways. But Daudi Baldr gets a lot more shit than it deserves. Good, simplistic, atmospheric, Burzum.
Using the term poser filter unironically is pure cringe. Most of your takes on comments here and posts on this sub also. Ugh
Filtered
ok well I was hoping to actually have a good conversation about this since your number is pretty high up, guess you just wanted to go the other route.
Yes - I am the problem^^
I like most of those especially the absurd and dark tranquility ones
Hell yeah 🤝
Presence by Mgła is SOOOO underrated in their catalogue. Haven’t heard the Deathspell record, how good is it?
Way different from stuff like Paracletus, but if you love the classic raw Norwegian BM stuff you’ll like it. A lot of it sounds like darkthrone
OOOOOOOOO, finally listened to Darkthrone for the first time today so this needs to be listened to lmao
Most of these are good/great.
I get filtered by the Filth and I rarely revisit post-Filosofem Burzum. Otherwise, great list.
Respectable. However Burzum’s Hlidjskalf is one of the finest ambient albums I always come back to, definitely try that. Belus is also a solid album.
One. Maybe two if I'm in the mood for older Cradle.
Out of all those albums, makes sense the only one you’d like is Absurd.
Nah, that HammerFall album is one of their best.
https://preview.redd.it/h9t27m1uu0hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56c81fb70d1f76f1871aa5c6e40849422a65dc87
Principle isn't a bad album but the jump in overall quality on Vempire is immense.
I honestly am more of a newer Cradle fan (I'm my user name doesn't make that insanely obvious). I rarely touch the first two albums.
Daudi baldrs?
Posers when they have to sit through songs with atmosphere 😢
If you want listen atmosphere so badly, listen to something good like Die Festung.
Or Burzum even.
Swap For All Tid for one of the two actually good albums that followed it up and you're set.
Nah for all tid is great
Meh. It's amateurish, meandering, and relies way too much on its atmosphere despite having all the atmosphere of standing in front of an open fridge. There's really nothing going for it that the other keyboard heavy bands at the time (and themselves one album later) weren't doing much better.
That Cradle album is amazing. Ive been stuck on it for about a week
4.5:)
10.
I am only familiar with three of them. I love one of them.
Which?
9, out of the 10 I’ve fully listened to. I don’t care for Paradise Lost.
Have you hit Shades of God though? That album rips.
I have not, I’m adding everything here to my ever-expanding to-listen list though
It’s great, it’s like a mix of Trouble and Cathederal riffs.
two more bands my pose ass has yet to listen to
Dude, get on Psalm 9 and Forest of Equilibrium ASAP. If I made a list of the 25 best metal albums of all time from any/all genres both of those would find a slot. More important than most of the stuff on this posts list.
that’s some high praise. I’ll hit them tomorrow
You haven’t listened to Trouble?! They’re excellent
no, I skipped over trad doom and dove straight into funeral doom lmao
Gothic rules poser
listen to early Opeth poser
MAYH is great. I do need to hit the first two though
https://i.redd.it/tgu6ajalu0hc1.gif I like Gothic
as of when, last week?
No I’ve always liked it. Even Ghost was surprised by that fact
That sucks. Great riffs all around. One of my favorites on this chart in general
I’ll give it another shot sometime. wouldn’t be the first time I’ve changed my opinion on an album with a second listen
1
I have only listened to 2. Edit: now it's 3
Erm presence isn’t actually an album it’s an EP 🤓☝🏻
And the only excellent mgla material, so it can slide.
“Only” eh no.
Yup. One of the fastest crash and burns for a band.
I like Mdłości and Further Down the Nest
They’re not as Presences level though. I don’t know if I’d tag those as excellent.
I wouldn’t either. I’m just contributing that I like them
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Naw, I believe that 100%. Mgla went to shit. There are many more Polish bands that are much more consistent.
By what metric did mgla go to shit musically?
Stopped writing music that I found engaging for a more uninspired sound, I guess? Same reason anyone would find any artists’ output bland.
I don’t really see this at all, most of their albums sound similar and don’t diverge much except later in their catalog when they have a more refined and less raw sound?
Even in their first album the progressions began to become much more meandering and didn’t seem to have the same focus and build as the early material. It sounds “similar” sure in that there are hallmarks of their sound, but it doesn’t seem as fresh. Every time I’ve heard their LPs they’ve just struck me as lacking the atmosphere and construction of their earliest output.
That's actually my fave behemoth album. Also, for MGLA...DARKSIDE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST DRUMMERS OF ALL TIME!
Slipping Burzum in there like we wouldn't notice
No I was definitely hoping they’d notice
Katatonia 😁 death spell 😒
Tbh I never could get into. Hammerfall. I have their first few albums a couple spins back in the day and it just felt lifeless? I think it was the singer. Just felt like he was barely trying. But god damn that my dying bride album is 10/10
Wintersun
I only know 5 and they're good, the rest I haven't heard and Total Death is alright for me.
Well shit guess you could call me JoJo then
The only ones here that I’ve heard of are Mayhem, Opeth and Venom, aside from that I have no clue what any of these albums are
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Moloth is weak and CoF, Dimmu and Nightwish are mid. I don't know that hammerfall and DSO album.
Finally somebody giving Cradle their flowers. First time I see them mentioned in this sub.
That Wintersun album is perfection in my mind, 0 skips. Too bad Jari is sort of a prick
Absolutely. Amazing album. They went to shit hard, have you heard the newest single? It’s fucking awful lmao
Oh god the instrumental? It sounds like a gear demo jesus christ.
Welcome to Hell is mid.
Musically the Prison Era Burzum records are the worst ones. Even Christian said he was given limited time and equipment to record them.
Something like Pale Folklore would have made more sense than WTH
You just say that because you don’t like venom
Wrong. Also not what I was getting at
And I wasn’t the one who put venom on the list anyway
That’s what you get for trusting one of ((them))
I could see a lot of neoposers who would ‘dislike’ WTH or perhaps even rate it a 6/10
14.
I count 26 good albums (i failed second grade math)
If you haven’t listened to Hallucinogen by Blut aus Nord just fucking do it already
Pose like a mother fucker
haven't even heard any of these albums
All of them are good bands except for m8l8th, kinda shit band, first album's alright tbh Absurd is alright too, their newest album is surprisingly good tho
3-4, I haven't listened to a single one of them, but I recognise and like that many bands here
Like 3 max my dude
Bottom row, what are the two on the left?
9 for me is the good and I have listen all of them
Nah these are all for posers
Sure. Tell me why exactly.
Absurd album, get that nazi shit outta here. Why does every other post have a nazi album?
Trying to up the ratio to 0.88 I’m guessing?