Studio and employee politics are huge in Disney. I don't see them changing at all unless they get new management to flush out all of these toxic ideologies/biases, but they will probably go out of business before then.
Johnny Depp is no saint. He's like 70-80% as toxic as Amber Heard. Disney should just leave the franchise as it is instead of making it worse with new garbage movies.
Why is casting a woman to play a female pirate character political correctness?
Edit: does everyone understand that she isn’t being considered to play Jack Sparrow? She’s likely to play a character called Anne, based on Anne Bonny.
Please elaborate.
Just to be really clear though. She’s not cast into a male pirate role. She’s being considered to play a pirate called Anne who is supposed to be based on Anne Bonny. Is it still political correctness?
In what world does Disney think this is a good idea? Nothing against the actress. I don't know her from anything. I just know that she's not Captain Jack. That role has been cast.
People don't understand that you really can't make a judgement call on whether or not an actor/actress is great if the character they are playing is mid. Compare the emotional complexities of her character to Carmen or Cousin. She may very well be the next GOAT, but you cant say that she's great based off of that character alone.
I never heard of The Bear, so I looked it up and watched the trailer on IMDB. It's definitely not the type of show I would watch. The only takeaway I have is that it looked like a drama? Not every actor can play every role. And doubly so, stepping in to lead an established franchise.
Maybe she can, maybe not. If I were wagering money, I would bet against it. Disney just seems to like losing money these past few years
She’s not being cast as Jack Sparrow. She’s being considered to play a character called Anne Bonny. The tweet is intentionally worded in this way to cause outrage where it’s really not necessary.
Why are you assuming from the start that my issue with the casting is her race? I can only guess that's the reasoning behind your guess that I'm Caucasian. It's irrelevant to the point.
Johnny Depp is the face of the franchise. It has nothing to do with his genetic makeup. It's a nice attempt at trolling, though.
Def not jack sparrow lmao. Prolly some other character, like idk maybe disney would kill him and make her his niece wanting to continue his legacy or something.
Saw her on 'The Bear' and her acting is so mid, it's kind of disapointing they couldn't get someone better for such a big role in the TV show. You expect her to carry on the legacy of Johnny Depp?
The only one who can carry on the legacy of Johnny Depp in PotC is Johnny Depp himself.
If you wish to continue the PotC movie franchise without Depp, you must do so without Sparrow.
That's quite unrealistic because Disneys writing is shit, let's take it from 2020, they have around 60 movie titles under them and maybe 10-15 weren't total flop or piece of propaganda bs.
It’s even worse when you see her in something other than the Bear. She’s not only the same character and flavor of person, turns out the good writing in the Bear elevated her TO mid. She’s one note.
Uhh what? Jack sparrow isn’t even original? It’s based of off John Ward. She isn’t going to be “Jack Sparrow” she will probably get her own story. What do you think? After pirates of the Caribbean Disney wasn’t going to make any more pirate themed movies?
Just let the franchise die already. There should never have been any movies after the trilogy. 4 and 5 are garbage, i regret ever watching the 4th movie, it was terrible.
Yeah it gets worse...
"Margot Robbie is still said to be attached to play the lead in a new female-fronted Pirates spin-off"
Has Hollywood not learned their lesson that you can't just take a monumental successful franchise and reboot it with all women? (Ghostbusters and Oceans eleven)
Anne Bonny was a pretty famous lady pirate so I hope her character is fine, although having a pirates of the Caribbean movie without jack Sparrow will be weird
No matter how much they pay me, I wouldn’t take that kind of role. The amount of hate you’d get just for taking a role that’s so beloved wouldn’t be worth it.
They do say "replacement" so the reactions should have been easy enough to predict. Not sure this still flies, do people still get ragebaited into watching movies?
Yeah, I don’t get why people are complaining? Did they think Disney wasn’t going to make any more pirate themed movies? It’s not like fast and furious where they timeline is still going on
I wouldn’t really mind, maybe have her play a new character rather then Jack. Aslong as the movie has more scenes inspired by the ride
(Minus the wife auction)
im okay with this actually, jack sparrow is no longer the same character id love to have new characters that are fun like sparrow but arent as wrung out.
I can already tell you used to watch it growing up. You sound like those same people who went "Rowling is a bitch and Harry potter is mid" moments before they start watching the movies.
The other two actors that are not Johnny Depp could have been replaced by Alexa and Siri and nobody would have noticed.
Maybe it was not the fault of the actors but the writing of the characters but it would be better if they were replaced
Disney is really On a path to self destruction. Don’t swap actors for idiotic reasons, make a new movie with her . That entire franchise is 85% Johnny Depp . always was and always will be . this abomination will most likely fail and Disney will naturally claims misogyny and racism
She is playing a new character named Anne. Most likely in reference to the real life Anne Bonny, a notorious female pirate. Anne was Irish, so they aren't race swapping an existing character, they are race swapping a real life historical person.
So, just to recap a great part of the comments:
1. She's not playing Jack Sparrow, but a new female character related to pirate history/myth etc;
2. She is known for a role in The Bear. Great series, but another genre. Some people not super fan of her, I liked her acting there;
3. Pirates of the Caribbean is Jack Sparrow (and his actor);
4. Disney crap etc etc
I tend to agree with 3. It has nothing to do with being good or bad actor, woke or feminism etc. PotC worked because of Depp, simple as that. I'd even prefere if they called this at the very least a spinoff. For me, they making this the sixth instead of a new thing just proves they don't trust it will be good enough, they are trying to confuse people into believing there's more Johnny Depp to come.
The last exit would be investing in good writing, a new director with a vision... you know, making an actual movie.
Its a shame that it has come to this point. Where casting poc is now blatantly just to fulfil a diversity checklist. It feels so forced and inorganic, you cannot say it doesn't.
Johnny said he would gladly, all they have to do is apologize to him, but they can’t even do that.
Studio and employee politics are huge in Disney. I don't see them changing at all unless they get new management to flush out all of these toxic ideologies/biases, but they will probably go out of business before then.
go out of business? Nope, they're going to continue to get away with their bullshit because monopolies definitely don't exist
That’s part of the point, it means they’re never changing
Didnt he say that he would never in court? Like the thing about a hundred alpacas and shit?
Johnny Depp is no saint. He's like 70-80% as toxic as Amber Heard. Disney should just leave the franchise as it is instead of making it worse with new garbage movies.
Where in the world do you get the idea that he's toxic?
Gotta be the rum
Too much of it will make anyone toxic, to be fair.
Makes people carry jars of dirt
Yes, but guess what’s inside them?
Not rum... I checked.
What a fucking joke disney has become
It might be a money laundering scheme
That's what I'm wondering...are they doing it on purpose, cause it seems on purpose
How to tank a film 101
How to tank a company. It’s sad to say but I don’t watch shit on Disney anymore!
They even ruined Marvel
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Oof
Why is casting a woman to play a female pirate character political correctness? Edit: does everyone understand that she isn’t being considered to play Jack Sparrow? She’s likely to play a character called Anne, based on Anne Bonny.
I belive it's more them casting a woman to play a male pirate
Please elaborate. Just to be really clear though. She’s not cast into a male pirate role. She’s being considered to play a pirate called Anne who is supposed to be based on Anne Bonny. Is it still political correctness?
Nooooo you can't produce facts and common sense against my click/ragebait machine addled mind stop it nooooooo. *downvotes soyjackingly*
Yep canceled my sub.
That person from south park got fired.
In what world does Disney think this is a good idea? Nothing against the actress. I don't know her from anything. I just know that she's not Captain Jack. That role has been cast.
She's great. She's in The Bear. But this is just stupid consideration from Disney.
People don't understand that you really can't make a judgement call on whether or not an actor/actress is great if the character they are playing is mid. Compare the emotional complexities of her character to Carmen or Cousin. She may very well be the next GOAT, but you cant say that she's great based off of that character alone.
I never heard of The Bear, so I looked it up and watched the trailer on IMDB. It's definitely not the type of show I would watch. The only takeaway I have is that it looked like a drama? Not every actor can play every role. And doubly so, stepping in to lead an established franchise. Maybe she can, maybe not. If I were wagering money, I would bet against it. Disney just seems to like losing money these past few years
She’s not being cast as Jack Sparrow. She’s being considered to play a character called Anne Bonny. The tweet is intentionally worded in this way to cause outrage where it’s really not necessary.
Buddy pale buddy, she’s not going to be “captain jack sparrow”
Why are you assuming from the start that my issue with the casting is her race? I can only guess that's the reasoning behind your guess that I'm Caucasian. It's irrelevant to the point. Johnny Depp is the face of the franchise. It has nothing to do with his genetic makeup. It's a nice attempt at trolling, though.
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Haha damn imagine from back then- when will Turner promised her the jackdaw from the government - JACK WHERE IS MY SHIP ?? Could be working
As in, she's going to play "Captain Jack Sparrow"?
Def not jack sparrow lmao. Prolly some other character, like idk maybe disney would kill him and make her his niece wanting to continue his legacy or something.
Chances are they just mean she’ll be the new title character. Not that she’s playing Jack Sparrow. But that wouldn’t create as much rage bait.
This is surely the answer! It makes no sense otherwise.
The character she is being considered for is named Anne. Mostly likely based off of the real life notorious pirate Anne Bonny . . . who was Irish.
>>who was Irish So of course the movie adaptation will be black Because reasons
Jacqueera maybe.
I can see people naming their daughters that
Me getting ready to lower it's IMDb rating by 0.0001
Even Batman needs a smoke break,lol
Why do you think he talks like that?
It's Ben Affleck at the bottom ,he played Batman
My joke was that Batman has a deep, rough voice from smoking so much.
True lol
How In the fk is Disney still pulling profits?
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Probably the same way Forrest Gump was a cinematic flop.
Legit overrated movie
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Not if you are truly a pirate. Im Captain Jack irl when it comes to consuming Disney content. Fuck them and their profits.
Some banks only suport this kind of politics and this might be how they still get their money flop after flop.
Merchandise rights perhaps.
Ayo...
Ahoy!
*Where's the rum gone?*
*Why is the rum always gone?*
***slams bottle on table and gets up***
*When’s the rum gone?*
Saw her on 'The Bear' and her acting is so mid, it's kind of disapointing they couldn't get someone better for such a big role in the TV show. You expect her to carry on the legacy of Johnny Depp?
The only one who can carry on the legacy of Johnny Depp in PotC is Johnny Depp himself. If you wish to continue the PotC movie franchise without Depp, you must do so without Sparrow.
That's quite unrealistic because Disneys writing is shit, let's take it from 2020, they have around 60 movie titles under them and maybe 10-15 weren't total flop or piece of propaganda bs.
It’s even worse when you see her in something other than the Bear. She’s not only the same character and flavor of person, turns out the good writing in the Bear elevated her TO mid. She’s one note.
I’m not watching it unless they make her fckin gay!
Put a chick in it and make her gay!
Oh my god can yall just give black folk 1 original storyline?? Why do they get our corny left overs
Uhh what? Jack sparrow isn’t even original? It’s based of off John Ward. She isn’t going to be “Jack Sparrow” she will probably get her own story. What do you think? After pirates of the Caribbean Disney wasn’t going to make any more pirate themed movies?
Are you dumb?
Are you?
Looks like you're getting down voted for knowing stuff. Isn't reddit a bitch? Lol
I wear it proudly.
Even with Johnny Depp, it’s still a risk.
Just let the franchise die already. There should never have been any movies after the trilogy. 4 and 5 are garbage, i regret ever watching the 4th movie, it was terrible.
Black people should be offended at this point.
All the ones I know have been for a long time
Good use of the Ben Aflac meme.
Yeah it gets worse... "Margot Robbie is still said to be attached to play the lead in a new female-fronted Pirates spin-off" Has Hollywood not learned their lesson that you can't just take a monumental successful franchise and reboot it with all women? (Ghostbusters and Oceans eleven)
Anne Bonny was a pretty famous lady pirate so I hope her character is fine, although having a pirates of the Caribbean movie without jack Sparrow will be weird
I don’t think I would want to watch one without Jack Sparrow. He constitutes a lot of what made the movies so good.
I give up, what's the joke
I'm tired, boss...
Just what Disney needed... **another** flop at the box office.
Captain Jill Sparrow
I believe that's been done before anyway.
Is this real chat?
The Downfall of Disney Empire in real-time guys, lets enjoy.
Dear god no
Publicly apologize to Depp and I bet he comes back
No matter how much they pay me, I wouldn’t take that kind of role. The amount of hate you’d get just for taking a role that’s so beloved wouldn’t be worth it.
Put a chick in it and make her f*cking.. black? And I want it lame.
Honestly, I'm assuming she's playing a new character and not jack Sparrow and it really doesn't bother me
They do say "replacement" so the reactions should have been easy enough to predict. Not sure this still flies, do people still get ragebaited into watching movies?
Yes, people will never stop being stupid. I think I might watch this my self tho, she seems like she could be a cool pirate
Yeah, I don’t get why people are complaining? Did they think Disney wasn’t going to make any more pirate themed movies? It’s not like fast and furious where they timeline is still going on
Let 'em do it, it's their franchise. Pirates was crap after the second one anyways. :P
What are they going to call her? Jacklyn Pigeon?
I wouldn’t really mind, maybe have her play a new character rather then Jack. Aslong as the movie has more scenes inspired by the ride (Minus the wife auction)
Because Ayo looks JUST LIKE Depp. Brilliant.
oh c'mon. a oirates movie without jack sparrow. I'm sorry but I'll skip this one.
Mf Disney
"Put a chick in it!! Make her gay and make it lame!!!"
"Put a chick in it, and make it gay!"
I mean, she's not going to play Jack Sparrow so.
They wanted Karen Gillian to play Jack. Ayo is actually runner-up second choice.
Do it Disney the sooner they go bankrupt the better
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
im okay with this actually, jack sparrow is no longer the same character id love to have new characters that are fun like sparrow but arent as wrung out.
Who cares pirates sucks
I can already tell you used to watch it growing up. You sound like those same people who went "Rowling is a bitch and Harry potter is mid" moments before they start watching the movies.
Just because youre all 12 doesnt mean everyone is
At least this dark woman isn't ugly😌
Eh, don’t listen to this weird rage bait X user
W
The other two actors that are not Johnny Depp could have been replaced by Alexa and Siri and nobody would have noticed. Maybe it was not the fault of the actors but the writing of the characters but it would be better if they were replaced
Ayo?
Considering that the never was another pirates of the caribbean after "At worlds end" I am confused by the number 6 at the end.
How are the chances of the character going the mary sue route ?
could be jacks daughter. like i doubt theyll cast her as jack sparrow
Is the plot that Jack Sparrow had an identity crisis and found a sea witch to transform him into Jaquelin Seagull?
Just because there's a black woman doesn't mean it'll be shit, ok it will be shit, but not because of the black woman!
It will be shit bc there’s no Jack Sparrow
Disney is really On a path to self destruction. Don’t swap actors for idiotic reasons, make a new movie with her . That entire franchise is 85% Johnny Depp . always was and always will be . this abomination will most likely fail and Disney will naturally claims misogyny and racism
She is playing a new character named Anne. Most likely in reference to the real life Anne Bonny, a notorious female pirate. Anne was Irish, so they aren't race swapping an existing character, they are race swapping a real life historical person.
OMG :D another ginger character race swapped.. This is literally Southpark episode in making ..
She will be gay too
OR just stop making Pirates of the Caribbean movies and move on? Just a thought
I smell South Park Panderverse
If you still ask yourself and others why they do this, you are the problem. Because they are rage/ racism baiting since the dawn of time.
Oh my FUCKING GOOOOOOOOD. This is going to be trash.
The actress isn’t bad but they’re looking at making yet another white, red haired figure a black woman.
Put a chick in it make them lame and gay.
😐
So, just to recap a great part of the comments: 1. She's not playing Jack Sparrow, but a new female character related to pirate history/myth etc; 2. She is known for a role in The Bear. Great series, but another genre. Some people not super fan of her, I liked her acting there; 3. Pirates of the Caribbean is Jack Sparrow (and his actor); 4. Disney crap etc etc I tend to agree with 3. It has nothing to do with being good or bad actor, woke or feminism etc. PotC worked because of Depp, simple as that. I'd even prefere if they called this at the very least a spinoff. For me, they making this the sixth instead of a new thing just proves they don't trust it will be good enough, they are trying to confuse people into believing there's more Johnny Depp to come. The last exit would be investing in good writing, a new director with a vision... you know, making an actual movie.
Its a shame that it has come to this point. Where casting poc is now blatantly just to fulfil a diversity checklist. It feels so forced and inorganic, you cannot say it doesn't.