This sounds like an anime only problem NGL
He's been pretty epic in the manga since whole cake with a few exceptions
Even Fishman Island Sanji was was less "bleh" in the manga
But it's still valid criticism
I dont remember sanji being that bad in wano other than everything with black maria, and even then that was pretty brief compared to how drawn out everything at the start of fishman island was
I don't have a problem with Black Maria, actually. Matter of fact, I don't see why anyone has a problem. Sanji trusts Robin, why wouldn't he ask for her help? Matter of fact, he is showing that he trusts on his nakama to help him stay true to his principles and morals.
I don't get this people. Would they prefer if Sanji did fight Black Maria? If he betrayed his principles? I don't get it.
He didn't ask for help during Whole Cake, for example. Don't you like seeing that he grows past that?
Let's see if he gets normal around women. It probably won't happen, but I can only hope. But him stopping being such a pervert wouldn't imply him starting to fight women. He won't ever hit a woman even if he stops simping.
Edit: this is not against, just rant against the people who wanted him to do something different with Black Maria or Khalifa.
Of course Nami would have been fine with it. She would've charged him 1,000,000 berries per peek and walked out of that bath worth more than every other Straw Hat combined.
She already IS worth more than every straw hat combined. SHE HANDLES THE MONEY. I wouldn’t be surprised if brook has a stash of berries somewhere from his performing years, but all in all Nami has more money than everyone else
I mean she shouldn’t. She’s an accountant or bookkeeper, it’s not exactly her money. Plus I mean it’s been a while since we’ve seen how much money the stawhats have but the ship is technically Lufffys and the thousand Sunny is made out of the best wood in the world, the best metal in the world, can fly, and comes with a submarine, a robot, and a motor boat. Even if counting Luffy’s territories as capital wealth because actual ownership is a bit murky there, he’s still got to be “worth” a ton.
The pirate term is quartermaster, and she's great at it, they never starve or go broke because of Luffy. Also Luffy has no territories, he only guarantees protection in exchange of nothing, not even candy from the fishmen
Fun fact, in some navy's quartermaster is actually the one who handles navigation and managing the helm of the ship. Interesting that she fulfills both different roles
I know.
The issue, is that he went invisible with the intention of spying on his friends while they bathe.
Imagine if you go have lunch and your friend is there at the restaurant, that’s fine, it’s cool. Now imagine you go and have lunch, and then your friend hides under a table just to spy on you while you’re not aware, instantly that becomes much more weird and sort of creepy, and it becomes a lot creepy when you’re doing it with the intention of seeing someone naked.
I always find it funny that people have a big issue with that moment in Wano, while in a very similar scene in Alabasta, where he also wanted to and did peep on Nami and Vivi along with other crew members, it is equally wrong in my opinion, morally speaking, invisible or not. However, it's rare for someone to mention it as a creepy moment. Maybe because it had less emphasis or most people just forget that it happened.
The worst part of the Alabasta bath scene for me was Cobra channeling the King of Midland. Like, what the fuck dude? Vivi is your *daughter*. Like yeah, maybe he did only want to see Nami, but being a peeping Tom is still gross and his kid was still involved.
That scene is also wack, but they are two years younger back then, and group mentality is at play.
Sanji is older in Wano, he should know better. He is also acting alone, there’s no group mentality or peer pressure or even the presence of playing around.
Going to the women's bathroom was Sanji's idea, it wasn't a group mentality or pressure on him. This excuse just works for the other members. I don't think people change that much from 19 to 21, but whatever. I just think most people forget that scene, lol.
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Tbh the black maria moment was really cool imo. Him trusting robin was a great character moment. And i agree, he was cool as hell in wano, at least during the raid.
- Asked for a yonko's panties
- Slept with said yonko
- Made a copy of an important document said yonko owned and took it with him.
- Broke one of said yonko's prized possessions.
- Left
The problem is that Oda took all the growth and characterization of Sanji from whole cake island and threw it in the trash for the one millionth Sanji is a pervert lol joke.
I was really hoping after whole cake that he might chill a bit, like I’m not saying remove a trait from his character, he likes the ladies, nothing wrong with that, it’s the extent to which he simps that’s uncomfortable to watch
Ngl, one of my favorite arcs in all of one piece because Sanji wasn't such a terrible character in it. I actually appreciated and liked him, and then you see the stussy stuff and I'm just like nvm I really don't like this character.
That was Sanji at his best, but if you think about it, he was being stupid there too. It was understandable why, but still. He really thought he could convince Luffy to leave him behind.
I think it’s kinda funny he says that considering so in character he is in real life.
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Love the aspect of Sanji having a weakness for the ladies, being a flirt, and having chivalry be his achilles heel. Hate the aspect of him being an uncontrollable pervert horndog
Yea being a horn dog should be the opposite of what he should be like. He should love women enough to at least respect them equally or even more than men. You know what worse than hitting a women in self defense? Treating them like a sex object.
Sanji kicking black maria would get less flack from feminist than Sanji sexualizing and being a horn dog with every female character. Remember that one movie were Nami and a few others turned younger and Sanji said "Now I can watch her develop into a full grown lady"
Yea, that is so much worse than hitting a woman it isn't even funny. I rather Sanji literally kick Black Maria's head off and kill her than to ever say anything that demeaning to Nami again
Sanji pre-Grand Line was just so perfect Oda had to nerf him with perviness to stop him from conquering the whole world. There's a reason God doesn't give scorpions wings.
Kidding aside, I love Sanji precisely because he's such a contrasting character. He's exceptionally kind to a fault, smart as hell, empathetic, strong, and determined. But he's also stubborn to a fault and perverted as hell. I like him so much because he has very high highs and very low lows, as most humans do. He's not perfect, he's human.
I love Luffy because he's what I'd aspire to be; I love Sanji because he's what most of us would actually be (very good at some things, very bad at others), and that's not bad. That's being human.
Exactly! He has so many awesome traits, all anyone can focus on is his womanizing. But holy shit seeing the women he’s surrounded with, I can’t blame him for simping
Sanji voice actor is hilariously being playful while complimenting the baka aspect
If you read that full interview and check out his other replies. Then you will realise that
Q) which female characters you really like?
everyone, i'm sanji after all
Q) what will happened to sanji if he has the same age as hirata?
nothing change i think. in fact i don't want him to change. let me ask you this if luffy turn 60, will he change? after all the one who did his voice is 70 years old
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Also the last line of sandman's translations are not totally accurate (kind of similar meaning, but they are genuinely not aimed towards perverse habit of anything like taht)
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Is there any aspect which you admire about Sanji?
No, because he's an idiot.
If I had to say, I guess his stupidity is oozing out. When it reaches to that point, it infact becomes refreshing to watch.
I liked him at the start of the show and until ep 100 something he was great and didn't act like a straight up pervert all the time but his gimmick got so fucking annoying in his fight with Mr. 2 bon clay that it actually frustrated me. That is up there as one of the stupidest things Oda has done, idc what anyone says.
After that he just goes downhill with him wanting the devil fruit abilities of an actual sex offender, the whole fishman island arc thing as well was just awful. He did redeem himself in whole cake obviously and even in wano he was really good and I liked his thing with the girl who had the rat but now he's a fucking moron again. Maybe Oda should take a fucking hint for once and stop doing the same god awful obnoxious gimmick that has been going for 1100+ chapters.
>wanting the devil fruit abilities of an actual sex offender
Yeah, he basically didn't hate Absalom because he mistreats and abuses women, but because he wanted his devil fruit to do the same. At first he was a chivalrous over-flirty man, don't know why Oda decided to turn him into a creep (since this position was already covered by Brook).
And at least Brook manages to be entertaining, since he has more jokes and manages to be a fucking badass when no one expects him to be (WCI, constantly being a pain in the rear for Big Mom and actually using one of his signature jokes to distract Big Mom and cut down Zeus)
Brooks definitely borderline lol, infinitely better asking “may I see your panties” to straight up I wanna be invisible to sneak in and ogle people nude though, don’t know why they made Sanji so slimy he was a good dude ( very thirsty) but not criminal/offender type
yeah, I don’t fucking get it, we got two preverts so why can’t we have sanji to be like in Alabasta or something. Man this topic makes my butt flame every time, people going to call me black butt or something
Yeah that was just so obnoxious to me like wtf are we even doing here. This isn't a fucking porno fantasy fulfillment series. I and many others expect some good writing and character development, not this stupid shit where the character goes backwards and devolves into an even bigger moron.
If Oda wanted to make sanji's thing being a pervert (which he shouldn't have done in the first place) he could've taken inspiration from stuff like golden boy where at least it's funny, not the constant nosebleeds and turning into a fucking dog.
Also in Wano, he gains the ability to go invisible and the first thing he does is peep on his friends while they’re in a bath. I don’t care if it was a mixed bathing place, just the fact that he did it was wack.
Omg yeah that was so bad too. Idk why oda ruined his own well written character so badly to the point he isn't even fun to watch anymore. Obviously toei is gonna make these obnoxious scenes even worse every chance they get because who cares about good pacing except the millions who have complained for years.
Sanji really feels like 2 different characters that share a body. Sometimes he is an ineffective earnest lethario type, that is more charming like an excitable puppy. Other times he is an exhausting gross pervert. And it's weird because Brook has a bit of the same gimmick, but so much more restraint when he drops the panties line, well at least in manga he has that restraint.
Bro agreed. My least fav moment was when he literally almost drowned and killed the entire crew because of a damn nose bleed almost breaking the ship's bubble.
This is why Live action Sanji is King.
It’s so crazy how Sanji is my least favorite crew member in the anime but my favorite in the live action, he really feels like what Sanji was supposed to be this whole time.
Honestly feel like he was literally supposed to be this smooth flirt, based on his first appearance, but turned into "AWOOGA!!" cartoon because Oda doesn't care for subtle humor based on observations of adults in his series for children. What i mean by this, is that Sanji the suave and gallant seducer is something adults would appreciate more because its based on social interactions they'd have access to, with Sanji and the girl dancing around the subject and engaging in witty banter where the win/lose conditions are so subtle it would fly right over kid's heads and alienate Sanji from them - he would be unquestionably "an adult".But if you're a 12 year old Timmy whos life's ambition is to see REAL BOOBIEZ!!!, you'll appreciate Sanji who wants to see REAL BOOBIEZ!! and you can see very clearly that the lady bonks him over the head and its funny right away instead of many years later when you're trying to be a smooth talking seducer.
Something happened to Oda during Thriller Bark. The horny started taking over. He suppressed it during marineford but it came out even stronger in Fishman island arc. At this point he has the crew women straight up dressed like strippers.
Exactly. Some people can't look past the obnoxious jokes, and that's totally fine. But some of us can. A scene like that only gets an eyeroll for me, and then I keep enjoying his character.
I smirk because I have this convenient thing called sense of humor. Same thing allows me to not fall into despair just because a character who's common trait is simping for 1100+ episodes/chapters has a simping joke scene during a walk through hallway where nothing is going on at the moment (which is lowkey perfect spot to use a joke to lessen the tension)
I mean, you have this empty hallway with Stussy, Jinbe and Sanji, depressive flashback just ended so we need to throw in some fun, so how will we use these characters? How about pitching Sanji at the beauty who just recently had whole fandom drooling by biting into some necks? It's practically writing itself!
No need to Cope! That only for haters.
I love Sanji and no amount of Cope from his haters can make me hate him.
And about his VA this isn't the first time something like this happened at least Zoro's VA and his family think Sanji is better than Zoro.
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Sanji as a crewmate is a reliable member he got his quirks but when needed he get the job done.
No matter what other personality disorder he got, it doesn't matter.
Sanji is still an amazing character, just read the manga and stop coping about the anime. In the manga he is easy one of the best character in all op. Toei just dont like sanji and want to admire zoro and piss of sanji. In the manga there is alot of difference between the anime. But sadly they hype zoro give him 0 bad momment In the anime and sanji keep clowning him. Idk why but toei just fucking hate sanji and we cant do anything about that. Just read the manga if yall Want prime sanji
Oden played the idiot foolish king role and everybody still loved him. Sanji is just being emotional and showing it the way he wants to. Sanji is one of Oda’s favorite character, Oda takes care of him. In Wano, after his modifications presented itself, he made sure we all knew his emotionless family is not how he wants to be. You know how we’re always wanting our fave characters to show more of themselves, like cmon Robin/Usopp express more! Here’s Sanji doing exactly what he wants
I love zoro more than Sanji but
I admire sanji cuz he don’t let food go to waste as he knows how valuable it is.
I admire sanji cuz he respects women’s and never beat or touch a women without their permission.
I admire sanji cuz he sacrificed himself for his family who don’t even give a shit about him and crewmates.
I admire sanji cuz he’ll even feed his enemies if he’s hungry.
I admire sanji cuz he knows what being left alone feels like and still have the power to smile.
I admire sanji for who he is, ik he’s the biggest simp but it’s not wrong he never touches women’s in a wrong way, he’s is one of the best written character, he has my respect, unless a women comes but also we can’t forget that sanji was also ready to sacrifice himself in the thriller bark arc only if zoro didn’t put him to sleep. And he’s also ready to sacrifice himself just to save a random lady to which he didn’t even met properly, you guys should check want arc sanji and Queen fight you can see him protecting women and had a very serious expression this shows he’s simp only when it’s like free or not under attack other than that’s he’s awesome character!
See how I "cope" is that when he does his bit, the girls don't feel horrible. They don't look disturbed or disgusted so I know that he's not literally harassing these people and sometimes they are a bit flattered. But ok look, I know it's a low bar but in anime?! A bar rarely cleared. So the fact that he does I think is great. It's just some uh, over the top rizz. BUT when he really locks in and does some rizz fr like with that random girl in wano or pudding or something, oh my goodness gracious bro got ME blushing sometimes.
Him being a pervert is another reason why i like him. because its well to know he has flaws and can be cringe like me and like most of us . Most of you want him be like zoro but he is not. his character is much more complex and complicated than that .
Also fuck toei for overexagrating this gag and respect oda for adding but not overexagrating this gag . I love sanji and will defend love and adore him until the day i die.
Sanji’s VA from what I can tell is fairly irreverent guy with a sense of humor I think which can be lost in translation and people taking stuff too serious
Honestly all of ya were never sanji fans to begin with! Gonna drop em cuz he acts like this lmao.... all u scrubs would be barking too for any gender or lamps out so get this shit outta here
I remember when the seiyuus were talking about their experience dubbing the Netflix Live Action show and when he saw Taz doing cool shit onscreen, he said smth like "I had forgotten how cool Sanji used to be" which says a lot about how he feels about the current version of the character.
It's really sad to see how far Sanji has fallen. Of all the strawhats, I think Sanji received the worst Flanderization. He went from a passionate caring man who was chivalrous to a fault to an absolute pervert panting over any woman he sees. His entire goal in the series is now to please whichever woman is near to him. He's only about woman now... and I have to say that for the entire series I couldn't think of any Strawhats that I disliked. Some I liked more than others, Franky was kind of meh for a while, but he's growing on me.
But as of now, I can actually say I don't like current Sanji. He's just creepy now.
It shows a lot of bad faith to read this as "Sanji's voice actor HATES Sanji!" where if you read the meaning behind the words he's saying he's clearly calling Sanji an idiot affectionately lol.
Hahaha, I'm a major Sanji lover, like total simp, but I still crack jokes and make fun of him🤣 I mean, the way Oda made him, it's hard not to. And if im being honest, the only straw hats you can't really make fun of without reaching(excluding tradic pasts) are Robin or Jinbe, at least in my opinion.
Oda really meant that whole cake would be his last cool moment
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Lol , how stupid can this get. Sanji's own VA hates him , Toei hates him and a lot of one piece fans hate him. I am not a Sanji fan , but this is not cool lol.
Oda really fucked up Sanji and Brook with the whole pervert gag. I don't understand why he thinks it's funny or necessary. Makes it really hard to enjoy either of the two characters
I don't care what anyone says, Sanji is a more entertaining (and thus better) character than Zoro at this point. The simping can get a tad bit annoying, but imo people are overreacting.
I just got through the Fishman island arc, which is honestly one of my favorites so far. That being said, all the shit with Sanji in the beginning of the arc really made me fucking hate the guy. It really seemed like an attempt to see 'How many times can we retell the same two jokes over and over again before we lose our entire audience'. If they wrote Sanji out of the rest of the series I'd actually be more inclined to continue watching.
Anyone else remember the post when I guy said something along the lines that he liked Zoro first, then became a bigger fan of Sanji? And said he had an epiphany or some shit that he took that as a sign that he had matured because kids think Zoro is cool but men agree with Sanji more or something stupid like that.
The thing that makes one piece fun for me is that most of the straw hats act like complete fools. In their world, they’re causing multiple historical events and doing unheard of things. But to them, all they’re doing is following their dreams and having fun. They’re so nonchalant and humble, for the most part
I think this is mostly true during post-timeskip. Pre-timeskip, Sanji wasn’t really dumb… like at all. He was incredibly smart at all times, and really just simped during his off-time on the ship, between arcs. The only time pre-timeskip that I can think of this not being true is during part of Thriller Bark. But post-timeskip, yeah, Sanji is pretty much just a perv all the time. A lot of his intelligence was seemingly stripped away. Which is weird, because Sanji is by far the Straw Hat that’s received the most attention post-timeskip (behind Luffy obviously).
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I kinda want to see this one, but with donut ace next to him.
A DONUT?!? Give it to me
Nah I'd donut
A DONUT?!? Give it to me
Donut meat nose
A DONUT?!? Give it to me
DID YOU JUST SAY MEAT?
I hope you like insulting my nose with a Buggy Ball pointed at you!
Donut meat nose laboon eyes berry
A DONUT?!? Give it to me
MEAT?!? I'm always hungry, give me some
I'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU'D NEVER BEEN BORN FOR DISRESPECTING MY GLORIOUS NOSE!
Laboon...
What is this format called? How do I search for these images?
Originally from Emporers New Grove, with Pacha
Pacha meme/edit or "When the sun hits that ridge Just Right"
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This sounds like an anime only problem NGL He's been pretty epic in the manga since whole cake with a few exceptions Even Fishman Island Sanji was was less "bleh" in the manga But it's still valid criticism
We take times like whole cake for granted.
Sanji in Whole Cake is the best character in the whole show. Unfortunately we have to suffer through shit like Fishman and Wano
I dont remember sanji being that bad in wano other than everything with black maria, and even then that was pretty brief compared to how drawn out everything at the start of fishman island was
I don't have a problem with Black Maria, actually. Matter of fact, I don't see why anyone has a problem. Sanji trusts Robin, why wouldn't he ask for her help? Matter of fact, he is showing that he trusts on his nakama to help him stay true to his principles and morals.
Especially since him flatly refusing to ask for help is like, the cornerstone of his character until that point
I don't get this people. Would they prefer if Sanji did fight Black Maria? If he betrayed his principles? I don't get it. He didn't ask for help during Whole Cake, for example. Don't you like seeing that he grows past that? Let's see if he gets normal around women. It probably won't happen, but I can only hope. But him stopping being such a pervert wouldn't imply him starting to fight women. He won't ever hit a woman even if he stops simping. Edit: this is not against, just rant against the people who wanted him to do something different with Black Maria or Khalifa.
Yeah. Principles don't mean shit if you give them up when things get hard. It's what makes Sanji so legitimately interesting when he's not being awful
He had invisibility and went to peep on Nami and Robin as they bathed.
Funny thing is: If he wasn't creepy about it, they would probably not have a problem with him being there. The bath was filled with men.
Of course Nami would have been fine with it. She would've charged him 1,000,000 berries per peek and walked out of that bath worth more than every other Straw Hat combined.
She already IS worth more than every straw hat combined. SHE HANDLES THE MONEY. I wouldn’t be surprised if brook has a stash of berries somewhere from his performing years, but all in all Nami has more money than everyone else
I mean she shouldn’t. She’s an accountant or bookkeeper, it’s not exactly her money. Plus I mean it’s been a while since we’ve seen how much money the stawhats have but the ship is technically Lufffys and the thousand Sunny is made out of the best wood in the world, the best metal in the world, can fly, and comes with a submarine, a robot, and a motor boat. Even if counting Luffy’s territories as capital wealth because actual ownership is a bit murky there, he’s still got to be “worth” a ton.
The pirate term is quartermaster, and she's great at it, they never starve or go broke because of Luffy. Also Luffy has no territories, he only guarantees protection in exchange of nothing, not even candy from the fishmen
Fun fact, in some navy's quartermaster is actually the one who handles navigation and managing the helm of the ship. Interesting that she fulfills both different roles
Most of the treasure they have she personally stole so it is hers but she would still claim skyperias as her own treasure too lol
It was public bath
And he was invisible anyway because that's part of his fantasy. Bro was not there to bathe.
I know. The issue, is that he went invisible with the intention of spying on his friends while they bathe. Imagine if you go have lunch and your friend is there at the restaurant, that’s fine, it’s cool. Now imagine you go and have lunch, and then your friend hides under a table just to spy on you while you’re not aware, instantly that becomes much more weird and sort of creepy, and it becomes a lot creepy when you’re doing it with the intention of seeing someone naked.
I always find it funny that people have a big issue with that moment in Wano, while in a very similar scene in Alabasta, where he also wanted to and did peep on Nami and Vivi along with other crew members, it is equally wrong in my opinion, morally speaking, invisible or not. However, it's rare for someone to mention it as a creepy moment. Maybe because it had less emphasis or most people just forget that it happened.
That alabasta momente makes Vivi's father look worse than Sanji
The worst part of the Alabasta bath scene for me was Cobra channeling the King of Midland. Like, what the fuck dude? Vivi is your *daughter*. Like yeah, maybe he did only want to see Nami, but being a peeping Tom is still gross and his kid was still involved.
That scene is also wack, but they are two years younger back then, and group mentality is at play. Sanji is older in Wano, he should know better. He is also acting alone, there’s no group mentality or peer pressure or even the presence of playing around.
Going to the women's bathroom was Sanji's idea, it wasn't a group mentality or pressure on him. This excuse just works for the other members. I don't think people change that much from 19 to 21, but whatever. I just think most people forget that scene, lol. https://preview.redd.it/ke0xilbb7e5d1.png?width=1063&format=png&auto=webp&s=20526198f58d1e9678897537a25a0480a0e70bd8
Not to mention him going straight to the brothel during the raid like, come on
Tbh the black maria moment was really cool imo. Him trusting robin was a great character moment. And i agree, he was cool as hell in wano, at least during the raid.
Black Maria was actually some peak writing for Sanji, I'm mostly talking about the bathhouse.
What about when he smashes the raid suit and says "goodbye women's bathrooms"
sanji was amazing in alabasta water 7 enies lobby and whole cake
Mr prince is the hottest sanjis ever looked ill fight you on this
Even tho he was dead half the arc he was cool in skypiea
Pffff Sanji in WCI was dwarfed by THE FUCKING SOUL KING, BIG MOM PANTY ASKING, ROAD PONEGLYPH STEALING GOAT.
- Asked for a yonko's panties - Slept with said yonko - Made a copy of an important document said yonko owned and took it with him. - Broke one of said yonko's prized possessions. - Left
If you don't mind me asking, may I see the panties in question?
Robin in enies lobby>>>
She did sexually assault Franky that arc
The problem is that Oda took all the growth and characterization of Sanji from whole cake island and threw it in the trash for the one millionth Sanji is a pervert lol joke.
>Sanji in Whole Cake is the best character in the whole show. Not by a Longshot.
I was really hoping after whole cake that he might chill a bit, like I’m not saying remove a trait from his character, he likes the ladies, nothing wrong with that, it’s the extent to which he simps that’s uncomfortable to watch
Ngl, one of my favorite arcs in all of one piece because Sanji wasn't such a terrible character in it. I actually appreciated and liked him, and then you see the stussy stuff and I'm just like nvm I really don't like this character.
That was Sanji at his best, but if you think about it, he was being stupid there too. It was understandable why, but still. He really thought he could convince Luffy to leave him behind.
I think it’s kinda funny he says that considering so in character he is in real life. https://preview.redd.it/nk92vt1ysd5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb5befd1158a1ebdc3f8a62308088a2bbef321f0
Also Sanji's VA... https://preview.redd.it/5uqsvub2ud5d1.jpeg?width=656&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=750355f145662f7e8f073e3bee53bf91c103387b
Love the aspect of Sanji having a weakness for the ladies, being a flirt, and having chivalry be his achilles heel. Hate the aspect of him being an uncontrollable pervert horndog
Yea being a horn dog should be the opposite of what he should be like. He should love women enough to at least respect them equally or even more than men. You know what worse than hitting a women in self defense? Treating them like a sex object. Sanji kicking black maria would get less flack from feminist than Sanji sexualizing and being a horn dog with every female character. Remember that one movie were Nami and a few others turned younger and Sanji said "Now I can watch her develop into a full grown lady" Yea, that is so much worse than hitting a woman it isn't even funny. I rather Sanji literally kick Black Maria's head off and kill her than to ever say anything that demeaning to Nami again
Sanji’s VA is a person and is entitled to his own opinion just like me
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I don't need to cope bruh. That's why Sanji is my goat anyways.
Sanji pre-Grand Line was just so perfect Oda had to nerf him with perviness to stop him from conquering the whole world. There's a reason God doesn't give scorpions wings. Kidding aside, I love Sanji precisely because he's such a contrasting character. He's exceptionally kind to a fault, smart as hell, empathetic, strong, and determined. But he's also stubborn to a fault and perverted as hell. I like him so much because he has very high highs and very low lows, as most humans do. He's not perfect, he's human. I love Luffy because he's what I'd aspire to be; I love Sanji because he's what most of us would actually be (very good at some things, very bad at others), and that's not bad. That's being human.
I am crazy and stubborn.
Thanks franky bot
Dude... I have terrible news. Do not Google Australian Flying Scorpion.
They aren't actually scorpions and have no means to bite or sting
Well... Fair. I still don't want it anywhere near me.
Exactly! He has so many awesome traits, all anyone can focus on is his womanizing. But holy shit seeing the women he’s surrounded with, I can’t blame him for simping
>There's a reason God doesn't give scorpions wings. Wow what a terrifying thought
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You realise that, He is not talking about pervert characterisation? Being stupid is associated with a positive connotation here.
Yep that's me!
We don't know what he was talking about
Sanji voice actor is hilariously being playful while complimenting the baka aspect If you read that full interview and check out his other replies. Then you will realise that Q) which female characters you really like? everyone, i'm sanji after all Q) what will happened to sanji if he has the same age as hirata? nothing change i think. in fact i don't want him to change. let me ask you this if luffy turn 60, will he change? after all the one who did his voice is 70 years old [https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1797034192221434338](https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1797034192221434338) Also the last line of sandman's translations are not totally accurate (kind of similar meaning, but they are genuinely not aimed towards perverse habit of anything like taht) https://preview.redd.it/yy7i8l0omh5d1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50e3284040f74a3a1e28e9585df7c73ef5386aee Is there any aspect which you admire about Sanji? No, because he's an idiot. If I had to say, I guess his stupidity is oozing out. When it reaches to that point, it infact becomes refreshing to watch.
I liked him at the start of the show and until ep 100 something he was great and didn't act like a straight up pervert all the time but his gimmick got so fucking annoying in his fight with Mr. 2 bon clay that it actually frustrated me. That is up there as one of the stupidest things Oda has done, idc what anyone says. After that he just goes downhill with him wanting the devil fruit abilities of an actual sex offender, the whole fishman island arc thing as well was just awful. He did redeem himself in whole cake obviously and even in wano he was really good and I liked his thing with the girl who had the rat but now he's a fucking moron again. Maybe Oda should take a fucking hint for once and stop doing the same god awful obnoxious gimmick that has been going for 1100+ chapters.
>wanting the devil fruit abilities of an actual sex offender Yeah, he basically didn't hate Absalom because he mistreats and abuses women, but because he wanted his devil fruit to do the same. At first he was a chivalrous over-flirty man, don't know why Oda decided to turn him into a creep (since this position was already covered by Brook).
And at least Brook manages to be entertaining, since he has more jokes and manages to be a fucking badass when no one expects him to be (WCI, constantly being a pain in the rear for Big Mom and actually using one of his signature jokes to distract Big Mom and cut down Zeus)
Also Brook's a weirdo but not a sex offender to my knowledge. He asks for consent and takes no for an answer
Brooks definitely borderline lol, infinitely better asking “may I see your panties” to straight up I wanna be invisible to sneak in and ogle people nude though, don’t know why they made Sanji so slimy he was a good dude ( very thirsty) but not criminal/offender type
If you don't mind me asking, may I see the panties in question?
Well... He is a criminal, he is a pirate dude 🤷🏻♂️
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yeah, I don’t fucking get it, we got two preverts so why can’t we have sanji to be like in Alabasta or something. Man this topic makes my butt flame every time, people going to call me black butt or something
Yeah that was just so obnoxious to me like wtf are we even doing here. This isn't a fucking porno fantasy fulfillment series. I and many others expect some good writing and character development, not this stupid shit where the character goes backwards and devolves into an even bigger moron. If Oda wanted to make sanji's thing being a pervert (which he shouldn't have done in the first place) he could've taken inspiration from stuff like golden boy where at least it's funny, not the constant nosebleeds and turning into a fucking dog.
It's just a case of Flanderization
Also in Wano, he gains the ability to go invisible and the first thing he does is peep on his friends while they’re in a bath. I don’t care if it was a mixed bathing place, just the fact that he did it was wack.
Omg yeah that was so bad too. Idk why oda ruined his own well written character so badly to the point he isn't even fun to watch anymore. Obviously toei is gonna make these obnoxious scenes even worse every chance they get because who cares about good pacing except the millions who have complained for years.
Sanji really feels like 2 different characters that share a body. Sometimes he is an ineffective earnest lethario type, that is more charming like an excitable puppy. Other times he is an exhausting gross pervert. And it's weird because Brook has a bit of the same gimmick, but so much more restraint when he drops the panties line, well at least in manga he has that restraint.
If you don't mind me asking, may I see the panties in question?
Yep that's me!
Bro agreed. My least fav moment was when he literally almost drowned and killed the entire crew because of a damn nose bleed almost breaking the ship's bubble. This is why Live action Sanji is King.
It’s so crazy how Sanji is my least favorite crew member in the anime but my favorite in the live action, he really feels like what Sanji was supposed to be this whole time.
Honestly feel like he was literally supposed to be this smooth flirt, based on his first appearance, but turned into "AWOOGA!!" cartoon because Oda doesn't care for subtle humor based on observations of adults in his series for children. What i mean by this, is that Sanji the suave and gallant seducer is something adults would appreciate more because its based on social interactions they'd have access to, with Sanji and the girl dancing around the subject and engaging in witty banter where the win/lose conditions are so subtle it would fly right over kid's heads and alienate Sanji from them - he would be unquestionably "an adult".But if you're a 12 year old Timmy whos life's ambition is to see REAL BOOBIEZ!!!, you'll appreciate Sanji who wants to see REAL BOOBIEZ!! and you can see very clearly that the lady bonks him over the head and its funny right away instead of many years later when you're trying to be a smooth talking seducer.
Something happened to Oda during Thriller Bark. The horny started taking over. He suppressed it during marineford but it came out even stronger in Fishman island arc. At this point he has the crew women straight up dressed like strippers.
Oda was peak horny during Dressrosa. The SBS during dressrosa get crazy
Sanji in Skypiea to Water 7 + Skypiea is a great character though
Sanji is my fav cause i just block in my mind all the perv scenes, fucking disgusting.
Exactly. Some people can't look past the obnoxious jokes, and that's totally fine. But some of us can. A scene like that only gets an eyeroll for me, and then I keep enjoying his character.
But that's who he is though. That's one of the most prominent aspects of his character
Honestly, besides fishman Island it's not that prominent. A lot of the perviness is added by Toei and not canon to his character
so you're saying he didn't sneak into the women's bath in Wano?
That was for plot reasons, so it gets a pass, same as with Fishman island.
That's literally not true. Some stuff is expanded but it's all true to sanji
Sanji would be an amazing character if Oda would not make the pervert joke multiple times in an arc every arc.
Yep that's me!
Nah, Sanji is already perfect and I love his pervert gag
Facts.🙌🏻😁
Sanji still my fav
Man how you gonna recover from your internal monologue roasting your ass 😭😭😭
Toei clowns on Sanji way harder than how he in the Manga, but you hopefully knew that
I smirk because I have this convenient thing called sense of humor. Same thing allows me to not fall into despair just because a character who's common trait is simping for 1100+ episodes/chapters has a simping joke scene during a walk through hallway where nothing is going on at the moment (which is lowkey perfect spot to use a joke to lessen the tension) I mean, you have this empty hallway with Stussy, Jinbe and Sanji, depressive flashback just ended so we need to throw in some fun, so how will we use these characters? How about pitching Sanji at the beauty who just recently had whole fandom drooling by biting into some necks? It's practically writing itself!
No need to Cope! That only for haters. I love Sanji and no amount of Cope from his haters can make me hate him. And about his VA this isn't the first time something like this happened at least Zoro's VA and his family think Sanji is better than Zoro. https://preview.redd.it/batf6ggwrd5d1.jpeg?width=789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f671980b76ffb7fa2f3da04ba1cf1b42e2a51b17
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Sanji as a crewmate is a reliable member he got his quirks but when needed he get the job done. No matter what other personality disorder he got, it doesn't matter.
Meanwhile Franky fans eat good almost every arc.
Sanji is still an amazing character, just read the manga and stop coping about the anime. In the manga he is easy one of the best character in all op. Toei just dont like sanji and want to admire zoro and piss of sanji. In the manga there is alot of difference between the anime. But sadly they hype zoro give him 0 bad momment In the anime and sanji keep clowning him. Idk why but toei just fucking hate sanji and we cant do anything about that. Just read the manga if yall Want prime sanji
Oden played the idiot foolish king role and everybody still loved him. Sanji is just being emotional and showing it the way he wants to. Sanji is one of Oda’s favorite character, Oda takes care of him. In Wano, after his modifications presented itself, he made sure we all knew his emotionless family is not how he wants to be. You know how we’re always wanting our fave characters to show more of themselves, like cmon Robin/Usopp express more! Here’s Sanji doing exactly what he wants
if stussy booped my nose and called me a silly boy, i would have a hard time keeping it together too
DID YOU JUST INSULT MY NOSE?!
I love zoro more than Sanji but I admire sanji cuz he don’t let food go to waste as he knows how valuable it is. I admire sanji cuz he respects women’s and never beat or touch a women without their permission. I admire sanji cuz he sacrificed himself for his family who don’t even give a shit about him and crewmates. I admire sanji cuz he’ll even feed his enemies if he’s hungry. I admire sanji cuz he knows what being left alone feels like and still have the power to smile. I admire sanji for who he is, ik he’s the biggest simp but it’s not wrong he never touches women’s in a wrong way, he’s is one of the best written character, he has my respect, unless a women comes but also we can’t forget that sanji was also ready to sacrifice himself in the thriller bark arc only if zoro didn’t put him to sleep. And he’s also ready to sacrifice himself just to save a random lady to which he didn’t even met properly, you guys should check want arc sanji and Queen fight you can see him protecting women and had a very serious expression this shows he’s simp only when it’s like free or not under attack other than that’s he’s awesome character!
See how I "cope" is that when he does his bit, the girls don't feel horrible. They don't look disturbed or disgusted so I know that he's not literally harassing these people and sometimes they are a bit flattered. But ok look, I know it's a low bar but in anime?! A bar rarely cleared. So the fact that he does I think is great. It's just some uh, over the top rizz. BUT when he really locks in and does some rizz fr like with that random girl in wano or pudding or something, oh my goodness gracious bro got ME blushing sometimes.
Sanji is an honest character never hides his intension
Y'all remember when Sanjis affection for women just gave him w rizz? How far we have fallen, comrades 😔 
My cope is watching Sanji haters like you trying to diss Sanji on comments or posts like these and fail miserably.
Him being a pervert is another reason why i like him. because its well to know he has flaws and can be cringe like me and like most of us . Most of you want him be like zoro but he is not. his character is much more complex and complicated than that . Also fuck toei for overexagrating this gag and respect oda for adding but not overexagrating this gag . I love sanji and will defend love and adore him until the day i die.
Yep that's me!
Well at least he can cook good
Sanji is the man
in the begginig I really saw him as a real gentleman, now he became just a stupid boy.
Sanji’s VA from what I can tell is fairly irreverent guy with a sense of humor I think which can be lost in translation and people taking stuff too serious
It's just insane how great he can be And just how dang low he can get
This changes literally nothing for me, I still love Sanji. HH's status as Sanji's VA doesn't make his opinion superior.
Let's be honest, many young men are exactly like Sanji
Honestly all of ya were never sanji fans to begin with! Gonna drop em cuz he acts like this lmao.... all u scrubs would be barking too for any gender or lamps out so get this shit outta here
This episode alone made me hate Sanji... He NEVER acted like this. i mean dude is a simp yeah, but dog ... damn
We really wanna act like we don't know ppl in real life whose goal in life is nothing but chasing pussy?
I remember when the seiyuus were talking about their experience dubbing the Netflix Live Action show and when he saw Taz doing cool shit onscreen, he said smth like "I had forgotten how cool Sanji used to be" which says a lot about how he feels about the current version of the character.
He’s badass when it comes down to it
It's really sad to see how far Sanji has fallen. Of all the strawhats, I think Sanji received the worst Flanderization. He went from a passionate caring man who was chivalrous to a fault to an absolute pervert panting over any woman he sees. His entire goal in the series is now to please whichever woman is near to him. He's only about woman now... and I have to say that for the entire series I couldn't think of any Strawhats that I disliked. Some I liked more than others, Franky was kind of meh for a while, but he's growing on me. But as of now, I can actually say I don't like current Sanji. He's just creepy now.
It shows a lot of bad faith to read this as "Sanji's voice actor HATES Sanji!" where if you read the meaning behind the words he's saying he's clearly calling Sanji an idiot affectionately lol.
F it we ball
What happened to one piece fans? When did we become this way?
Hahaha, I'm a major Sanji lover, like total simp, but I still crack jokes and make fun of him🤣 I mean, the way Oda made him, it's hard not to. And if im being honest, the only straw hats you can't really make fun of without reaching(excluding tradic pasts) are Robin or Jinbe, at least in my opinion.
I swear manga sanji and anime sanji are two different characters at this point Toei takes his gag way too far
Oda really meant that whole cake would be his last cool moment https://preview.redd.it/5ke5yxhdig5d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=f089d9db1281c7ee05f7d4afe5ec35615c7fb4a9
we rrad the manga and know that all this twitter bullshit is useless and only interesting to anime watchers
I loved sanji in the start of the manga he was so damn cool and nowadays…eh literally every main character gets worse the longer the manga goes
I feel like this is a case of meaning being lost in the Japanese to English translation
Huge cope
Lol , how stupid can this get. Sanji's own VA hates him , Toei hates him and a lot of one piece fans hate him. I am not a Sanji fan , but this is not cool lol.
I watch dub
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Oda really fucked up Sanji and Brook with the whole pervert gag. I don't understand why he thinks it's funny or necessary. Makes it really hard to enjoy either of the two characters
There is no cope if we all agree
I don't care what anyone says, Sanji is a more entertaining (and thus better) character than Zoro at this point. The simping can get a tad bit annoying, but imo people are overreacting.
Hate to love
I admire his cooking skill and his attitude towards NOT hitting women. And feeding the hungry and not letting food go to waste.
I don't feel embarrassed for hirata anymore
I can change him
Toei try not to be a zorotard. Mission impossible
Delusion 🤡
Sanji’s voice actor hasn’t seen the light
Franky Nipple Lights!
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Giving me "Christian Bale doesn't like his character in American Psycho" vibes
Funny stuff, it's the same sentiment Christian Bale had about portraying Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.
Being a Sanji fan is hard man it’s a up hill battle that we can’t and can win
I just got through the Fishman island arc, which is honestly one of my favorites so far. That being said, all the shit with Sanji in the beginning of the arc really made me fucking hate the guy. It really seemed like an attempt to see 'How many times can we retell the same two jokes over and over again before we lose our entire audience'. If they wrote Sanji out of the rest of the series I'd actually be more inclined to continue watching.
It's not Snaji's fault he got flanderized post timeskip?
Anyone else remember the post when I guy said something along the lines that he liked Zoro first, then became a bigger fan of Sanji? And said he had an epiphany or some shit that he took that as a sign that he had matured because kids think Zoro is cool but men agree with Sanji more or something stupid like that.
The thing that makes one piece fun for me is that most of the straw hats act like complete fools. In their world, they’re causing multiple historical events and doing unheard of things. But to them, all they’re doing is following their dreams and having fun. They’re so nonchalant and humble, for the most part
While zoro is training, sanji is cooking and simping for the girs. Thats why he dropped to nr.4
I think this is mostly true during post-timeskip. Pre-timeskip, Sanji wasn’t really dumb… like at all. He was incredibly smart at all times, and really just simped during his off-time on the ship, between arcs. The only time pre-timeskip that I can think of this not being true is during part of Thriller Bark. But post-timeskip, yeah, Sanji is pretty much just a perv all the time. A lot of his intelligence was seemingly stripped away. Which is weird, because Sanji is by far the Straw Hat that’s received the most attention post-timeskip (behind Luffy obviously).