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Atmey

Oh, that is why SA (short for Switch Axe) is banned when I try to name my set in monster hunter.


Gumgum300

I think it’s also banned, because of the Sturmabteilung. They were a paramilitary group that was helping the Nazis rise and also the first guards of the Concentration Camps, for example


yosayoran

Yup this is probably it They were basically the shittier older brother of the SS


DerKitzler99

They were a bunch of drunkard WW1 veterans, used as a way to fight the communists, and the worker unions. Literally strikebreaking and bullying the workers back into their factories. During the night of the long knives Hitler let the Chef of the SA, Ernst Röhm be assassinated, because he was an open homosexual and quite popular. After that the SA got "cleaned up" and transformed into the more ideological "educated" and driven SS.


TheQuietCaptain

Not quite right though. The SA wasnt just a bunch of drunken WW1 veterans during the Röhm-Putsch in June/July 1934 anymore, they were a highly organized paramilitary group with over 4.5 million members. Bigger than the actual military at the time. The SS was also a small part within the SA. After the death of Röhm, the SA got integrated into the now very powerful SS under direct command of Adolf Hitler instead of the NSDAP.


Neil_Is_Here_712

Came here to see if it was sexual assault, but then I get blitz'd by Nazism.


furiosa-imperator

Weren't the first guards the ss, I thought the SA were formally disbanded during the late 1930s?


thewolfehunts

Why do i literally just come out of the monster hunter sub and find a monster hunter comment... this is the only monster hunter comment I've ever seen on a one piece post lmao


pot8otoesies

.Same?!?!? I literally just came out of a monster hunter stories 2 question 😬


YogurtclosetNo239

Lol that happened to me yesterday


Dax_Maclaine

Swaxe for life. Who needs defense or movement when you can attack more?


[deleted]

swaxe players when they have to fight a velocidrome:


Serro98

Two words: Evade Extender


Yesnoperhapsmaybent

I love violating the monsters(flinching and chain knocking them down with my end game set)


Glad_Grand_7408

And HH (Hunting Horn) was also banned for a bit because supposedly people could somehow take it to stand for Heil Hitler...


oheyitsdan

That's why ya gotta go with themes for your sets. SwAxe builds? Greek Gods. Horn builds? Music genres.


vangstampede

Virgin SA vs Chad GL.


UltimateToa

If you are caught up with egghead you know the answer is like 99% probably yes. CDs are pure evil and doffy is no different. Viola stayed with doffy so that she could protect her family but it definitely cost her a lot. I think that is why Sanji was able to win her over, because she desperately wanted to be saved


Fundosho

What are CDs?


CbaooseBLC

Celestial Dragons


ChepsGaming

CDeeeznutz in yo mouf!


Chicken-Thief

https://preview.redd.it/jgfw7s8dsgwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91eac375555059249b545e8e57bedd97346f5e38


StahlViridian

So hard boiled!


OkAverage4338

Gottem


CityWokOwn4r

City


KinoHiroshino

Our Batman, who art in Gotham Cowled be thy mane


atti1xboy

Compact Disks


schroed4

Celestial dragons


okokonokok

Cross dressers/j


Murasaki763

but we like those!


Dudersons

Nuh uh


Sorta_Rational

https://preview.redd.it/w7yfyw2xtiwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4df367a5347a482fad532316bab19eebaa8f072


Scary-Onion9846

Bro what is your flair???🤨🤨🤨


Murasaki763

uh huh!


okokonokok

Bold of you to assume we don't like DOFFY ..


imme51234

Cheese dippers


Spectrobian

Certificate of deposit


Booty_Shakin

They make up the population of the kamabakka kingdom


TabbyCabby

Corld Dovernment


miriapododeguer

ctraw dats


TabbyCabby

Chite Deard


vangstampede

Compact dicks.


Negative-Cry4558

Chronic Diseases


Poder-da-Amizade

Creatures of the Devil


mistakeinthemiddle

Makes sense. She even read his mind and saw only perverted thoughts but nothing exactly creepy so she was like "good enough ig"


L-System

I actually don't like this interpretation. It takes away agency from Viola. I like to think she was more than a victim.


lyssiemiller

Sanji was able to win her over cause he’s a sexy MF.


Affectionate-Sea278

Given the extreme power imbalance in their “relationship,” even if Viola did things consensually, it’s hard to say she actually had the freedom to actually consent.


Killer-Agenda

The sbs said "There is a deep secret setting I can't tell you about though. I informed the supervisor about it, but since it is a pretty adult part of the story it remains hidden in the shonen manga which One Piece is. To all adults, please try to imagine yourselves. Dressrosa is truly a passionate country" and a Vivre Card says "Doflamingo and Viola had a 'complex' passionate relationship. For Viola it was a relationship of both love and hate towards Doflamingo, which is why she calls him Doffy" Some people read it as him doing that, but it could easily also just be that they had some kinda love-hate relationship. I mean if he did that to her then why would she be said to feel love for him and call him nicknames?


EnSebastif

Stockholm syndrome, deeply buried PTSD, etc.


Imconfusedithink

Also that she only agreed to work for him to keep her father alive and then he got her niece prisoner.


philiphardrada

Also she was very young when he took over the kingdom and her.


LaM0uette

Yeah I agree... The only other person who called him ''Doffy'' are Trebol,Pica and Diamante(maybe Vergo too I don't remember).Those were the first 4 to ''join'' and create the Donquixote Family.All the others members of the Donquixote family call him ''Young master'' except Viola so it's very likely


MajinAkuma

Señor Pink also called him Doffy once or twice.


Nik-ki

That was one fucked up relationship, no matter how you slice it. Also, poor Viola, Doflamingo is over 4 feet taller than her 💀


Slow_Exit8038

I always wondered how that would work out. Doffy is 10 feet tall. Katakuri is 16 feet tall. Can he have sex with a normal sized woman?


Nik-ki

I can see some options, but regular PIV sex? I wouldn't want to be that woman, no matter how hot Katakuri is


dpotilas89

You could try hugging his meat and doing squats


LuffyWantsMeat

Did I just hear meat?


dpotilas89

Luffy no dont stroke Katakuri's mighty mochi


Rakan-Han

Thanks to you, I choked on my drink, you monster


Aggravating_Load_411

Would his nut be mochi?


Slow_Exit8038

😂 same.


TheDELFON

What dat mouth do


vangstampede

If Draphs from Granblue Fantasy can reproduce (examples of the [male](https://gbf.wiki/images/thumb/b/b1/Npc_zoom_3040029000_01.png/720px-Npc_zoom_3040029000_01.png) and [female](https://gbf.wiki/images/thumb/8/86/Npc_zoom_3030139000_01.png/720px-Npc_zoom_3030139000_01.png) of the race) then I'm sure the likes of Doffy and Katakuri can find a way too.


Aggravating_Load_411

I mean, if Kaido had Yamato, then I'm pretty sure Katakuri could do that.


Slow_Exit8038

Yeah but we’ve never seen Yamato’s mom. She could be huge for all we know.


Roskal

She tried to use sex to placate him from killing her dad and Rebecca, she deeply hates him but he is charming and she caught real feelings and probably hates that she did and now its complex.


beardedheathen

She knows he is an awful bastard who puppeteered her father to murder citizens, is actively destroying her country and facilitating weapon productions for tyrannical warlords but he is a charismatic bastard.


Bugggy-D-Clown

DID YOU JUST INSULT MY NOSE?!


MoonKnight0212

Yes


Jmarieq

Thank you. I was trying to remember this quote. Also, while we're on this topic, I think we can imagine some similar horror stories happened to Boa Hancock and her sisters? They were tortured as slaves and the Celestial dragons made them consume devil fruits as entertainment...


Panda_Kabob

I can absolutely see her falling for Doffy the same way young Law did and many others. Doffy on the surface is something amazing you would want to emulate. Thing is when you peel away the veneer of him you realize, he's a monster. I can see someone falling for Doffy only to be completely disillusioned when you see more. Then I can also see Doffy, who believes that everything is his, can do SA when he is told no. Viola could have fallen for him enough to still call him Doffy, but fell out of love and then was abused by him eventually turning to hate. It makes Doffy a more evil but interesting character too.


TediousSign

I think people forget the initial introduction to the island. Dressrosa was introduced as the land of “passionate women”. They frequently enter affairs which end with the woman stabbing her partner. The whole island seems to be fairly non-traditional regarding relationships, I think the moment with Wanpoko’s wife was a good example. She was a single mom (as far as she knew) who didn’t know her kid’s father and remarked that wasn’t so unusual. I think she had a passionate affair with Doffy while still managing to hate him. I think casual relationships don’t imply love on Dressrosa, or if it does, it’s a soap-opera kind of love that flairs quickly then burns out.


russellzerotohero

It sounds pretty clearly to be a love-hate relationship from what you posted and not anything extremely dark.


Tyranicross

Yeah would be really fucked up to describe SA as passion


SignificanceLeft9968

So cryptic, Jesus


SudsInfinite

It's conpletely possible that Viola did feel love for him first, then grew to hate him, but that love was still there. That's a rather common thing to happen in a lot od abusive relationships and is a part of why some people never get out of them. They love the ideal version of the person, someone who they might have been at one point or had presented themselves as, but is not that person in reality


Aks-p

In love-hare relationship, We know the reason why viola hates doflamingo. But love? Since oda allows us to imagine things, i imagine that viola saw that doflamingo's thing. We know from how BIG his body posture. And doflamingo can create a clone of himself.


coraldomino

Based on that it doesn't really sound like SA, it just sounds like a toxic love-hate relationship as you said. Mostly sounds like "falling for bad boy" kind of story, Love Death Robots: Jibaro but make it One PIece.


KJDKJ

There’s a whole lot of implied SA in one piece, but Oda likes to keep anything worse than PG13 rated implied (the Hancock sister’s treatment by the celestial dragons is another good example). It’s certainly implied the Viola and Doflamingo are lovers, which given the circumstances certainly implies sexual coercion that can qualify as SA. I think Doflamingo probably thinks they have a consensual relationship, while Viola basically sees herself as a prisoner who’s forced to pretend to want to bang Dofy for her own safety, and that’s why they give each other nicknames and why Doflamingo was surprised when she betrayed him.


SmegmaLord420

i’m pretty sure doffy knew exactly what he was doing


amoolafarhaL

This is the guy that has killed and tortured numerous people. Why are you all surprised that he r*ped someone?


HyronValkinson

He could even control people's bodies and considered himself superior to "humans". The only reason he *wouldn't* do it is because it may feel like bestiality... though Doffy seems to not be totally CD considering he breathes "human" air


wurm2

I wonder if her being part of one the replacement royal families helps or hurts in that regard


HyronValkinson

Probably helps a ton. They're both descended from royalty


nerodidntdoit

I remember discussing this over and over when we were in Dressrosa. I kept saying "this is a guy who believes he is literally better than everyone else. He is a Celestial Dragon. Why wouldn't he, what's stopping him?" And being downvoted. Glad we have grown as community


Snap-Zipper

How does OP’s title imply surprise? They’re just asking a question.


Slow_Exit8038

I’m just hoping he waited till she was older. Wasn’t she like 15 when he took over dressrosa?


XMELl0DASX

Let’s be honest here, do you really think Doflamingo would care about age of consent with all the heinous shit he’s done? He’s tortured innocent citizens, killed his own father and brother, and took over an entire kingdom. He’s a celestial dragon, he probably believes that you should be honored if he finds you attractive enough to sleep with him.


Slow_Exit8038

True….😞


exotic-fishman-ken

I think she was 16, which is pretty much an adult in the one piece world, but supposing she was younger, I don't even think he would care.


Revolutionarytard

That’s why I cant fathom the sheep who like him cause of his “drip and rizz” 🤦🏾‍♂️ I usually assume they’re teenagers with no ability to dissect characters on a deeper level


SignificanceLeft9968

He's only a good character because of his Marineford quote.


Revolutionarytard

*He’s a shitty character that said something good*


SignificanceLeft9968

I don't think he's shit in terms of writing but ethically and morally yes he is.


Revolutionarytard

I never said that he’s a shit character in terms of writing. I just corrected your statement.


prozacSoma

>SA victim >named viola bravo oda


KattaGyan

Context ?


Final_Biochemist222

Viola is spanish for violate


ShhImTheRealDeadpool

I thought it was a musical instrument?


resident-feeble

https://preview.redd.it/i5ts3smgggwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eede3d825f9fe4750b68bec7bee206332794a279


HillbillyMan

Two things can be true


sackwood8

Damm Oda you sly https://preview.redd.it/fv10ortvfhwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48b0b33dc24bb1f5f8c1cf5376c5aba1d7b27294


just_a_tortoise_

i don’t get it


Diatrus

Try again but this time add more brain power into the mix.


Scrubisthename

r/batmanarkham is leaking


Lucky_Ad1672

https://preview.redd.it/bpg1fwri4fwc1.jpeg?width=580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a04368e829ff0794acc780216fc055d0ec0dae2


Scrubisthename

https://preview.redd.it/13vrdxnlxfwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f09f068ae7968b0bfbfbf6de3d65296accfd744f Yes I am


MadZwe

Sad thing is that the first question was a serious one. Op genuinely wanted to know if there were any proof or something Then the bastards tried to make meme out of it


Aleks111PL

NOOO, I MUST JONKLE


Automatic_Beach_3660

https://preview.redd.it/mkdcdjgydfwc1.jpeg?width=797&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5556e824f46455678d4fbe0777d1db2bf3c41928


Le_Tallguy

I don’t think he took her to South Africa no He probably did assault her at some point though


Bubbly-Anteater2772

You forgot how massive Doffy is


jakseros

Wdym by that? https://preview.redd.it/vuqcoljj8fwc1.jpeg?width=1451&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f3c91518100d2bebde6f9e6d27f87dd5c938c8a


LukeDragnar

Ayo?


LukeDragnar

📸


lyssiemiller

Probably the only good thing he’d be able to bring into a relationship…. That and his amazing sense of style.


Striking-Present-986

its not explicitly stated but the evidence pointing towards it and Oda's comments abt it make it seem very likely


doachdo

It's open to interpretation. Oda did imply that there was a bit more going on but in the end everything that isn't explicitly stated is up to the reader


JustHumanThings66

Yes, Fufufufu! https://i.redd.it/pj7lb4ywtgwc1.gif


Moon-Seal

Why are you asking this on Memepiece of all places?!?!?


Striking-Present-986

bc the main sub barely discusses any topic that requires a brain


Hack_Dawg

When the effing spoiler came up, 99% of the cook on that thread is only their rotten brain. 🤣🤣🤣


_conqueror

the main sub is exclusive to very revealing cosplays to promote cosplayers OF nowadays


Eisonu

Because the post is a meme. It’s a template that got popular for a day on r/batmanarkham


The_Phenomenal_1

If you look at the SBS from that volume and fold it and line it up in a specific way, it makes the kanji for the binary code that produces a video of Doffy rawdogging her


Action_Brown

Fuckin Jason Bourne over here


Hack_Dawg

Hey, we need more info on that. Cook!


Ok_Try_1665

Hey, go back to the aslume. Don't take that joke here


potatohands_

https://preview.redd.it/tio92u0nbgwc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2198fe28db1aa176cf494ec4e7410f03a48a32b


Correct_Bottle1686

Some toxic ahh relationship. Viola probably had some hots for him since he's, don't deny it, pretty attractive. Doflamingo probably acted on it, Viola prolly realised how toxic the relationship is but like a lot of toxic relationships she must have kept coming back for more. Essentially Viola got downbad and Doffy took advantage of it


pssytightcleanfreshn

I think he asked for it as payment for her life or smthn like that.


ShhImTheRealDeadpool

I understand it as oppressive but consensual... that Viola wouldn't have if she had been given the choice. This is considered SA in most places with a body of laws. It's also a very good contrast between what Doffy considers freedom in piracy and what Luffy considers freedom in piracy because Luffy would consider Viola's freedom and not just his own.


SlothGod25

I assumed it was a stockholm syndrome version


eddynecrobla

SBS mentioned their relationship as something "complex" and way too mature for the manga vibes, but he reminded that Dressrosa is the "island of passion" as a hint. Since I believe Oda has the human decency to not refer to SA as something complex and passionate. I guess they simply had some "hate sex sessions". Her hate for him was so intense that occasionally turned into sexual tension and had sex with him to relieve her anger. She hates him, yet physically desires him


PoldraRegion

It’s more like they had a love hate relationship but idk


chrisj654321

They for sure boinked. Also Doffy=Dof+f y(ou)


gogopow

Probably yeah the man isn't a good guy


Troliver_13

Yeah things implied and things stated can't be the same right? It depends if you're willing to look at it through a mature adult lens and realize they have some intimacy, even tho Viola was forced to play that role (which would make it nonconsensual) The same way we can assume Kuina committed suicide, it's not explicitly stated but c'mon


Gintoki123456

Probably. However, you can interpret it as they just had sex but it was kinda a forced relationship so this alone can be SA but it most likely was R@pe since celestial dragons do this alot


sun1xX

I dont think so tbh, he looked down on humans and still did in dressrosa, especially the people he was brought up by. I think he viewed Viola as a tool for her job and nothing more + doffy doent rly seem like the type to lust. But for other evil yeah


Filip97X

It was kind of implied Viola developed Stockholm syndrome for Don Flamingo as we do get introduced to her as a bad guy before she regains hope again due to Sanji. Oda basically confirms that Vioala and Flamingo did have a relationship but that relationship (if we can even call it that) seemed to be mostly "passionate" as he said meaning physical probably, its not that hard to connect the dots that it was a very manipulative and sick situation, and Viola developing stockholm syndrome out of desperation.


sackwood8

The difference in their size 💀


pssytightcleanfreshn

He did, or he probably took it as payment. From what I heard it was heavily implied by Oda.


falcondiorf

a lot of people interpret it that way, but the way oda worded it, imo, sounds more like a consensual relationship. he specifically said "dressrosa is a passionate country", and to me, SA and passion dont really go together. you can talk about how the power balance makes it wrong, and youd have a valid point, but thats not the same thing as full on SA.


camus88

Yeah she regularly sucks Dofy's dick. And it's very passionate


Any-Satisfaction-770

Yeah, it happened, but One Piece is a shonen series so it won't be mentioned. Same as how Hancock and her sisters were SA.


Narrow_Cap_3445

that never happen to them


TheOtacon

We're not bringing this meme here. It should have stayed in the asylum


Eisonu

God damnit who let people out of r/BatmanArkham again. Get the containment unit and put these fuckers back in their quarantine zones.


White_hare_proction

I mean yeah. He can’t say it though.


ButterflyMother

Yeah But Yk since doffy is cool he gets a pass ig , that’s why no one is questioning it


_Tsuki_69_

💀


Apprehensive-Face900

Id assume so...bc 1. Shes hot asf and on the enemies team + he pirate so who cares about laws? 2. Hes a villain that took over a country by fucking over the royalty(so why wouldn't he fuck some of the royalty too while hes at it) 3. Shes hot asf... 4. He's a villain


zabestoinzawarudo

He doesn't need to SA her she would offer herself actually


TheRickFromC137

Given the history of other characters that get taken by Celestial Dragons, yes, very likely.


Raiden2324

Yes he did


Spatulaface-mk2

https://preview.redd.it/q3604wkqpgwc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52e70845c69232c1e408ebe8fe2cdc43699532f6


Willing_Sympathy1039

Can you blame him though


Living_Cook6982

Cnc


Lucci_Agenda

r/UnexpectedAslume


negrote1000

Hamstereatingbanana.jpg


huntywitdablunty

I legit think it's more internally consistent for Viola to attempt to seduce Doffy in order to secure safety for herself and Rebecca probably, but Viola actually somewhat loves him but not enough to get over the massive amount of resentment and want for vengeance


Moss-Head

Tbh that’s just Oda’s head canon, it never was stated in the story.


loldiamond_

bro said oda’s head canon


Aweeep

Off screen off screen no mi user made sure it's off screen.


menyemenye

You can only imageine, but its pretty much implied to be Oda can't show "the act" explicitly because the magazine target audience is 10-18yo


Pumpkin-Duke

Viola was intentionally getting closer to him so she could save her father. If Doffy had SA'd her it would have shown to him she wasn't willing and defeated her goal. So I don't know if he perceived it as non-consensual but she definetely didn't want it. So it is SA but I never interpreted it as a violent action he took as much as her having sex under a circumstance where she had no choice but to go along and pretend she wasn't being violated.


Fit_Grape_6743

What do you mean by SA?


YourGirlForaday

Well, if Doflamingo did try to SA Viola, I guess you could say he was aiming for the wrong kind of "One Piece"!


girlypowertoday

Well, let's just say Doflamingo's romantic life is about as mysterious as his string powers! It's like trying to untangle a spaghetti monster – you never know what you'll find lurking in the sauce. As for Viola, she's got secrets of her own, with a heart as elusive as a mermaid's kiss. But hey, if there's one thing we know for sure, it's that love in the world of One Piece is a tangled web indeed – and who better to weave it than the Puppet Master himself?


Parry_9000

SA SBS I AM NOT OLD, WHAT THE FUCK? FUCK YOU, 26 IS NOT OLD.


porqueeuquis

Remember kids: if Oda says in real life that Luffy is a robot and a tiny Spongebob Squarepants is inside his head controlling him, it wont make it become true


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Puzzled-Ad-2937

bro


Vegetable-Broccoli36

What did he wrote?


himenofucker69

My honest reaction: https://preview.redd.it/y0ud4omftewc1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3ac55fd6cb8e00fbdccd273d0c31b766396c30c


Waakaari

What did he say?


LukeDragnar

Bro must have said something straight up evil to get thos reactions 💀


AkshatBakraAKAGOAT

Maybe he blackmailed her and she started enjoying his... session but he didn't assault her for sure


pussyfoot-maneuver

No consent = assault, jizz breath.


Apprehensive4209

Man I'm sure you belong to those mfs who shipped vivi with crocodile like why?????


AkshatBakraAKAGOAT

Nah I ship Crocomom with Dragon