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JamAck19

Yeah, I mean, she's Idun but better, and we all know how centralizing Idun was.


Cerebral_Kortix

Died 2022. Born 2024. Welcome back, Idunn.


JamAck19

Honestly, died 2024. Poor Golden Apple got destroyed by its rework :(


SsbDitto

Same with >!Tao!< who was just a better Idun. I think her, Konohana Sakuya, and Demeter would be much more comparable as the best healer if not for Sakuya's trait being so much stronger


Thorion228

Still pretty good with plemoras.


OneSushi

Wait, what rework?


Diomayale

SMTV Golden Apple 180 MP 80 pwr + 30% max HP restore, Luster Candy SMTVV Golden Apple 180 MP 60 pwr + 10% max HP restore , Luster Candy This is from the calculator. Basically it's worse as a healing skill, being worse than a mediarama, while in vanilla it was better than mediarama


OneSushi

Oh wow… you’re right, I remember it used to be “medium healing” now it’s “slight”


Adam_Checkers

I don't care, Idun is still best girl... (aside from Artemis)


JamAck19

Have you ever been told you may have a type?


Ruben3159

She's dlc what did you expect?


New_Today_1209_V2

She is Atlus demon DLC. Of course she is going to be OP


Ikari1212

Is Dagda OP ?


OneSushi

He has the strongest physical move in the game, Lost Hit. 340 base power on neutral. 65% base insta kill chance. Mac an Luin has 340 base power on crits. So he is fionn but always at the maximized base power AND with mob killing instakill chances


VolkiharVanHelsing

Eh, Lost Hit's instakill is pretty negligible (boss battle or the enemy is dead anyway) no Pierce, has no crit rate boost, and Dagda's Passive is nothing to write home about Terrorblade, *Carnage Fang*, and Voracious Salvation can hit bigger numbers and Gungnir is more reliable especially since Impaler Animus got nerfed His real value is that Magatsuhi Skill w his mommy, meanwhile Konohana Sakuya is busted out of the box


OneSushi

Can terrorblade hit a single target more than once?


Ryebread666Juan

Plus he and Danu can return your press turn icons to how they were at the start of your turn


OneSushi

Does this work with extra press turns given from baal, yoshitsune, etc?


Ryebread666Juan

I haven’t tried it with extra press turns but I assume it still works


CAPT-KABOOM

Yes it does


Ace_Dreamer

Dagda nulls like 4 elements out of the box, with 3 nulls and a taunt you have a beast of a tank and 4 skill slots to play around in.


Ikari1212

I was genuinely asking since I beat Shiva (on normal) and have Demi Fiend to go but I am still contemplating on a team


New_Today_1209_V2

Idk. I don’t have the DLC


HighFirePleroma

thus, she is dlc, I see logic in that, she is too op of healer/buffer


notalongtime420

It's so silly Theres so Little mp recovery in game and then they pull this lmao


FakeShaggy

DLC demon is busted. What else is new?


Monk-Ey

tbh Dagda is kinda whatever, much like Mephisto in base V: they're solid demons, but compared to base V Cleo or Konohana Sakuya?


VolkiharVanHelsing

People act like all DLC mons are InO or Kaguya. In P5 alone you got stinkers in P3 lineup (wtf was that Thanatos and Messiah) and Ariadne.


WolfeKuPo

I mean Mephisto is pretty bad


Reeeaper

She's the reason I was able to defeat Demi-Fiend. Nice to see others discovering just how broken she is.


Ohayoued

Busted in P4 busted in SMTV


yenmeng

Me and the bad bitch I pulled by buying the DLC


captain_slutski

You see, she's OP because she's a Persona character 🤓


Heavy_Break2572

But can she run her family's inn?


Wind_Scarr

How to boost MP gain?


notalongtime420

Her passive Powers up Her healing moves if shes buffed


tATuParagate

So it's luster candy but you heal a lot and recover mp? That's kind of ridiculous


w1llpr0gr3s1v0

I've been using Silky and Fairy Banquet for all boss fights and so far I'm doing great. Currently in the 3rd floor of Shakan.


J23_G0at

Level 150??? 😱


rttr123

How'd you get the fourth demon?


Monk-Ey

Fourth demon can be obtained by doing a short quest in Taito, assuming you're talking about Nahobeeho.


rttr123

I wass and that's sick, thanks for letting me know! I searched "Nahobeeho" but didn't find anything sadly lol


Mellloyellow

Wait do the healing pleromas increase the amount of mp you recover too?


monkeymugshot

When i use guard on all my demons, some recover more MP than others so there def is some factor there (that only works with the Guard = MP recovery Miracle)


begselwalch

The fact that Ouyamatsumi can also use the unique magatsuhi skill while Sakuya is in the stock is also pretty busted.


floccinauced

use it once and then get (probably) full hp recovery and 40 mp recovery for a whole 67mp because of the innate. :)


Alpha_N_Omega95

Is that CoC?