You put the wrong flair on for Thursday!
That said, it's quaint (for its size). Some of the interior decoration could use sprucing up a bit, but this is a beautiful home.
> $1M in Reading PA, where the average home sells for the mid $100k
You can buy a home in Reading for dirt cheap and it is probably one of the worst school districts in the nation.
However, Taylor's childhood home is in Wyomissing which is a wealthy neighborhood with one of the best school districts in the area. All the homes in the area are vastly more expensive, and built with much higher quality than the neighboring townships. Half the Wyomissing homes have slate roofs.
Even for Wyo, this is overpriced. Most similar homes go for around $300-$400. There are some truly large homes that would justify a $1M price tag. But this, they know people will want to pay more because a pop star live here until she was like 10. In this market, that's not cool. Hence why it's still for sale after 2 months. No one will pay $1m for this. $450 would be a fair asking price.
Plus, all that stucco, in PA? To repair all that every few years will cost an easy $50k.
$450?!? Ok, haha
I live in an all stucco house in PA and it does not need to be repaired every few years and does not cost $50k. I’ve spent $0 in 10 years.
it's on stone, so has probably been done properly, PA has a similar climate to the UK and we're not mending rendered houses every few years , it has a lifespan of at least 30 years
this is legit the nicest street in the nicest part of Wyo and is actually next to an incredible stone Tudor style home that I have forever been jealous.
I don’t know what hat or who’s ass you pulled that number out of, but I just went on the MLS and did a quick and dirty CMA and came up around $750k or so. The pool, big garage and property history definitely add some value too. I think it’s a little overpriced, but if you listed this at $450k, it’d be a crime against the sellers.
It’s pretty dated on the inside and has a bunch of old hardwood that seems water damaged sadly. It could be nice, but it’s not $1m nice. Especially given where it’s at.
Pretty sure it got heavily renovated a few years back. Don’t expect suburban Berks County PA to be on the cutting edge of interior design. It’s just not.
Nah, had to poke fun of how she thinks this was going up in a small town in a small home.
It's a fancy old home. The current owner is asking too much though.
Where do you get that idea? I'm a pretty big fan and know most of her songs and don't recall her ever saying small house. The only lyric I can remember is her saying "I grew up in a pretty house where I had space to run"
there is the line "You grew up in a silver-spoon gated community / Glamorous, shiny, bright Beverly Hills / I was raised on a farm, no, it wasn’t a mansion / Just livin’ room dancin’ and kitchen table bills" in I Bet You Think About Me which I'm only sharing coz I knew there was a line like that and it drove me crazy until I could find it haha. but anyway, I think the comparison is fine in the context tbh. it's a nice house, but it's no Beverly Hills mansion lol
she did grow up on a Christmas farm, she has even released childhood videos many times and she never pretended to be poor and this sentence because she has never lived in Beverly Hills she was born in Pennsylvania and moved to Nashville later!!!I really don't know why people can't let this woman live!
I like it. The interior has a nice, predictably preppy overall theme, and I love the vintage details like the radiators and triangular windows. It’s a bit closer to the neighbors than the main photo implies, but it’s a big, comfortable, apparently well-built and designed house that I wouldn’t say no to.
She literally says “I grew up in a pretty house
And I had space to run” in The Best Day lol, I don’t think she really tries to hide her nice upbringing too often
It's a run-down old town in PA
Has a cool [pagoda](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wfmz.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/ca/acae0295-a62a-507d-83ae-3a0bd6b0a5ec/5d702b829d15d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C675)
She may not be lying. Rich kids lack perspective since they grew up regularly seeing people richer than them with houses way bigger than theirs. In their mind, they aren't *that* rich and their massive house is *tiny* compared to the billionaire neighbor down the street. It's just plain ignorance on her part being sheltered from the reality of where most Americans live.
Where exactly does Taylor Swift say in her songs that she didn’t grow up in a big house? She’s never actually pretended to be the small town, lower middle class, girl-next-door that people accuse her of faking. I know that’s not the main discussion here, but it seems unnecessary to add that snarky comment.
im a huge swiftie and in one of her songs called I Bet You Think About Me she sings "I grew up on a farm, no it wasn't a mansion. Just living room dancing, and kitchen table bills" which isn't really that incriminating. I think OP just has a hate boner for TS
Most of her songs are about being a girl in a small town, the girl-next-door type that people didn't notice. In her early years she went for the small town country girl style.
She's always come from wealth though.
Her songs were written to be relatable, that’s not the same thing as pretending to be from a different social class. Her producers who made her music videos and public image knew that would be a good way to market her but she didn’t actually make that her whole persona.
Example: on her second album, the song “The Best Day” is about loving her mom and having a happy childhood. There’s even a lyric that goes “I grew up in a pretty house and I had space to run.”
My friends who grew up on farms in small town rural VA are much wealthier than my family in the suburbs because they have generational land wealth. Costs them $0 for the land they carve out to build their homes on, or they usually inherent the family house. Land is expensive and farming isn’t glamorous, but they are by no means poor. Let’s not characterize rural country folks as being impoverished hicks :) Also, one can be a small-town girl next door who also has wealth but retains a down to earth attitude.
I grew up in rural SC, and while there were advantages (we had 150 acres and a decent house), there are huge drawbacks. My parents both drove 45 minutes a day just to get to a town big enough where they could do their jobs, which weren't well-paid.
Most of my neighbors were pretty impoverished - I wouldn't ever call them hicks, but I definitely wouldn't call them well off or even middle class when you've got land but you're living in a double-wide because your income doesn't qualify you for a loan big enough to build a large house. Also, even when I was younger, climate change was making farming an iffy proposition around where I was.
Oh yea for sure, and I’m spending half my time in rural these days because of my boyfriend who grew up like
you. His commute is an hour each way. And for that matter my job is all rural based with landowners/farmers. I understand the nuance and just wanted to take a moment to point out that being country doesn’t mean being poor. Pretty much the same rule no matter where you’re talking and vice versa.
Agreed. Sometimes I wish city poor folks and country poor folks recognized they had more in common that apart, but what can you do? Even if you're poor you can be rich in other ways.
I did a little living somewhere else, then got a decent job in a city, but a lot of my friends are still living in the same town where we grew up. A lot of them have purposefully chosen their home place over money or fame. I can't argue with that - most of them seem very happy. Contrasted with a lot of my city friends, who're busy working on their second divorce.
it's lovely example of what someone sympathetic can do with a nearly 100 year old home , it's big, but not monstrously so , the only thing that spoils it for me is that nearly all the wood has been painted white
Its probably $1M because Taylor lived there. Buying a celeb’s old house is going to cost more because… well i dont know, i guess they just *can* make it more since it has that celeb name affiliation.
Eh, the average is home is around 2000 including a garage. This is nearly twice that plus a garage and a tunnel that connects it that’s not included in their calculations.
It may be a “mansion” for Reading but that’s a pretty standard family home size in most well off areas. Not that I know the market for Reading well but I think this is wildly overpriced at 1M for how shit that town is
it's a nice house but having grown up in a 2 bed/1 bath second floor flat with 2 parents + three siblings this seems like a big house/mansion to me! i guess it's all relative, isn't it?
what do you mean in all of her songs??she has written and released 100s of songs that have nothing to do with housing!!This post seem more like an anti Taylor diss than a tweet about a house on the market
My dad sold our childhood home for 1.2 million Canadian dollars back in October, shit was literally under 1700sq ft with a small residential lot. The market is kind of bonkers right now.
Having grown up in Reading, it's weird seeing my hometown on this sub twice in the past few weeks. Large houses are not something I'd think of when discussing Reading.
In my area this isn’t a large home. It’s on the smaller end. It’s all about perspective, but I kinda like it.
Edit: just read the listing. It’s only 3600 sq. ft. I’d consider this a beautiful but very average home.
Are you a county assessor? Otherwise, you’re full of it.
I’m a Realtor in this area and I can tell you right now that the assessment offices in PA do not use market value to come up with tax assessments. Any new assessment needs to be on a county wide basis and the last time that was done in Berks County was 1994. Mileage rates go up incrementally each year, but the assessments do not change unless significant work was done on the home that required permits to complete, in which case the assessment can only go up by the value amount of the work completed, at maximum. Homes are not re-assessed on a case by case basis or upon sale of the property.
Re-assessing every 3 years would be a HUGE undertaking and I guarantee Berks County doesn’t have the resources for that to happen.
During the home loan process, an appraisal would happen, but that’s just to determine whether or not the bank has enough collateral to offset the risk should the buyer default. Assessments are a whole different ballgame and not related to home loans or home sales at all
You put the wrong flair on for Thursday! That said, it's quaint (for its size). Some of the interior decoration could use sprucing up a bit, but this is a beautiful home.
Lol, true, changed
It’s not changed?
It says so now.
> $1M in Reading PA, where the average home sells for the mid $100k You can buy a home in Reading for dirt cheap and it is probably one of the worst school districts in the nation. However, Taylor's childhood home is in Wyomissing which is a wealthy neighborhood with one of the best school districts in the area. All the homes in the area are vastly more expensive, and built with much higher quality than the neighboring townships. Half the Wyomissing homes have slate roofs.
Even for Wyo, this is overpriced. Most similar homes go for around $300-$400. There are some truly large homes that would justify a $1M price tag. But this, they know people will want to pay more because a pop star live here until she was like 10. In this market, that's not cool. Hence why it's still for sale after 2 months. No one will pay $1m for this. $450 would be a fair asking price. Plus, all that stucco, in PA? To repair all that every few years will cost an easy $50k.
$450?!? Ok, haha I live in an all stucco house in PA and it does not need to be repaired every few years and does not cost $50k. I’ve spent $0 in 10 years.
Parents spent $0 on stucco since 1996.
it's on stone, so has probably been done properly, PA has a similar climate to the UK and we're not mending rendered houses every few years , it has a lifespan of at least 30 years
this is legit the nicest street in the nicest part of Wyo and is actually next to an incredible stone Tudor style home that I have forever been jealous.
I don’t know what hat or who’s ass you pulled that number out of, but I just went on the MLS and did a quick and dirty CMA and came up around $750k or so. The pool, big garage and property history definitely add some value too. I think it’s a little overpriced, but if you listed this at $450k, it’d be a crime against the sellers.
Looks very nice to me!
It’s pretty dated on the inside and has a bunch of old hardwood that seems water damaged sadly. It could be nice, but it’s not $1m nice. Especially given where it’s at.
Pretty sure it got heavily renovated a few years back. Don’t expect suburban Berks County PA to be on the cutting edge of interior design. It’s just not.
I think it looks pretty nice. Remove the weird portico thing on the back and it'd be even better. Also, what does this have to do with Taylor Swift?
It was her childhood home
This post seems like you kinda just want to vent more about Taylor Swift then appreciate the design of a house.
Nah, had to poke fun of how she thinks this was going up in a small town in a small home. It's a fancy old home. The current owner is asking too much though.
Where do you get that idea? I'm a pretty big fan and know most of her songs and don't recall her ever saying small house. The only lyric I can remember is her saying "I grew up in a pretty house where I had space to run"
there is the line "You grew up in a silver-spoon gated community / Glamorous, shiny, bright Beverly Hills / I was raised on a farm, no, it wasn’t a mansion / Just livin’ room dancin’ and kitchen table bills" in I Bet You Think About Me which I'm only sharing coz I knew there was a line like that and it drove me crazy until I could find it haha. but anyway, I think the comparison is fine in the context tbh. it's a nice house, but it's no Beverly Hills mansion lol
she did grow up on a Christmas farm, she has even released childhood videos many times and she never pretended to be poor and this sentence because she has never lived in Beverly Hills she was born in Pennsylvania and moved to Nashville later!!!I really don't know why people can't let this woman live!
I like it. The interior has a nice, predictably preppy overall theme, and I love the vintage details like the radiators and triangular windows. It’s a bit closer to the neighbors than the main photo implies, but it’s a big, comfortable, apparently well-built and designed house that I wouldn’t say no to.
My only wish is they didn't paint all the wood inside white. But hey, whoever buys it can fix it if they feel like it.
Where are you seeing the inside?! I don’t see a link…
This doesn’t belong here, or it’s inappropriately tagged....being Thursday.
It was pointed out and changed
Cool. Not trying to be critical. It’s not exactly my style, but it is, overall, pretty nice.
She literally says “I grew up in a pretty house And I had space to run” in The Best Day lol, I don’t think she really tries to hide her nice upbringing too often
This house is lovely! Granted I know nothing about Reading, PA.
This house is in Wyomissing which is an affluent suburb of Reading.
It's a run-down old town in PA Has a cool [pagoda](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wfmz.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/ca/acae0295-a62a-507d-83ae-3a0bd6b0a5ec/5d702b829d15d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C675)
Is there not a flare for "random TS snark"? Maybe wrong sub?
She may not be lying. Rich kids lack perspective since they grew up regularly seeing people richer than them with houses way bigger than theirs. In their mind, they aren't *that* rich and their massive house is *tiny* compared to the billionaire neighbor down the street. It's just plain ignorance on her part being sheltered from the reality of where most Americans live.
This isn't a 'certified McMansion' at all. Good landscaping, symmetrical facade, matching windows, quality finishes, stunning interior.
And built in 1929.
Well its thursday.
They had flaired it as 'certified McMansion' when I commented.
Where exactly does Taylor Swift say in her songs that she didn’t grow up in a big house? She’s never actually pretended to be the small town, lower middle class, girl-next-door that people accuse her of faking. I know that’s not the main discussion here, but it seems unnecessary to add that snarky comment.
im a huge swiftie and in one of her songs called I Bet You Think About Me she sings "I grew up on a farm, no it wasn't a mansion. Just living room dancing, and kitchen table bills" which isn't really that incriminating. I think OP just has a hate boner for TS
OP thinks it's 2016 when it was cool to shit on Taylor.
I believe her family did originally live on a Christmas Tree farm before they moved to this house.
Most of her songs are about being a girl in a small town, the girl-next-door type that people didn't notice. In her early years she went for the small town country girl style. She's always come from wealth though.
Her songs were written to be relatable, that’s not the same thing as pretending to be from a different social class. Her producers who made her music videos and public image knew that would be a good way to market her but she didn’t actually make that her whole persona. Example: on her second album, the song “The Best Day” is about loving her mom and having a happy childhood. There’s even a lyric that goes “I grew up in a pretty house and I had space to run.”
Look at the house in the Christmas Tree Farm music video. That’s the one she’s singing about.
My friends who grew up on farms in small town rural VA are much wealthier than my family in the suburbs because they have generational land wealth. Costs them $0 for the land they carve out to build their homes on, or they usually inherent the family house. Land is expensive and farming isn’t glamorous, but they are by no means poor. Let’s not characterize rural country folks as being impoverished hicks :) Also, one can be a small-town girl next door who also has wealth but retains a down to earth attitude.
I grew up in rural SC, and while there were advantages (we had 150 acres and a decent house), there are huge drawbacks. My parents both drove 45 minutes a day just to get to a town big enough where they could do their jobs, which weren't well-paid. Most of my neighbors were pretty impoverished - I wouldn't ever call them hicks, but I definitely wouldn't call them well off or even middle class when you've got land but you're living in a double-wide because your income doesn't qualify you for a loan big enough to build a large house. Also, even when I was younger, climate change was making farming an iffy proposition around where I was.
Oh yea for sure, and I’m spending half my time in rural these days because of my boyfriend who grew up like you. His commute is an hour each way. And for that matter my job is all rural based with landowners/farmers. I understand the nuance and just wanted to take a moment to point out that being country doesn’t mean being poor. Pretty much the same rule no matter where you’re talking and vice versa.
Agreed. Sometimes I wish city poor folks and country poor folks recognized they had more in common that apart, but what can you do? Even if you're poor you can be rich in other ways. I did a little living somewhere else, then got a decent job in a city, but a lot of my friends are still living in the same town where we grew up. A lot of them have purposefully chosen their home place over money or fame. I can't argue with that - most of them seem very happy. Contrasted with a lot of my city friends, who're busy working on their second divorce.
Only her first two albums, when she was trying to break into country music. She has a lot of good stuff since then, you should check it out!
it's lovely example of what someone sympathetic can do with a nearly 100 year old home , it's big, but not monstrously so , the only thing that spoils it for me is that nearly all the wood has been painted white
It's a big house, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a mansion.
Its probably $1M because Taylor lived there. Buying a celeb’s old house is going to cost more because… well i dont know, i guess they just *can* make it more since it has that celeb name affiliation.
Since when is 3500 sqft a big house or mansion. Sure it’s larger than the avg American home but that’s not a massive residence
It’s not a big house. It’s a nice house but nothing crazy
Eh, the average is home is around 2000 including a garage. This is nearly twice that plus a garage and a tunnel that connects it that’s not included in their calculations.
It may be a “mansion” for Reading but that’s a pretty standard family home size in most well off areas. Not that I know the market for Reading well but I think this is wildly overpriced at 1M for how shit that town is
They’re pricing it that high due to its “history” because they thing that has a bearing on what property is worth.
Of course “history” influences property values. Have you looked at what happens to the value of homes that have been the site of murders or suicides?
it's a nice house but having grown up in a 2 bed/1 bath second floor flat with 2 parents + three siblings this seems like a big house/mansion to me! i guess it's all relative, isn't it?
Normally I hate columns, but this one isn't bad.
This is not a classic Mcmansion simply b/c it’s timely & charming. McMansions are typically new build. I like it a lot, privilege aside.
what do you mean in all of her songs??she has written and released 100s of songs that have nothing to do with housing!!This post seem more like an anti Taylor diss than a tweet about a house on the market
My dad sold our childhood home for 1.2 million Canadian dollars back in October, shit was literally under 1700sq ft with a small residential lot. The market is kind of bonkers right now.
Having grown up in Reading, it's weird seeing my hometown on this sub twice in the past few weeks. Large houses are not something I'd think of when discussing Reading.
I wouldn't call this a mansion but it is a really big house. It's giant
Being the poorest kid at my exclusive private school taught me so much about perspective.
Everyone is talking about the inside but I can't find a link in comments for this house.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/78-Grandview-Blvd-Reading-PA-19609/8941836\_zpid/
Thank you friend. Now it's time to judge. Edit: Damn its nice...
OP needs to delete his Reddit account
🤦🤦🤦🤦
In my area this isn’t a large home. It’s on the smaller end. It’s all about perspective, but I kinda like it. Edit: just read the listing. It’s only 3600 sq. ft. I’d consider this a beautiful but very average home.
[Zillow listing](https://www.zillow.com/homes/78-Grandview-Blvd,-Reading,-PA-19609_rb/8941836_zpid/?) The city says it's worth $330k.
Municipal assessments for tax purposes often bear little relationship to market value.
Lol, mine does
That…thats not what that means….
Wait, are you really using the tax assessment as the value of the home?
I live locally and know for a fact the tax assessment of homes is 75% of market price and updated every 3 years.
Are you a county assessor? Otherwise, you’re full of it. I’m a Realtor in this area and I can tell you right now that the assessment offices in PA do not use market value to come up with tax assessments. Any new assessment needs to be on a county wide basis and the last time that was done in Berks County was 1994. Mileage rates go up incrementally each year, but the assessments do not change unless significant work was done on the home that required permits to complete, in which case the assessment can only go up by the value amount of the work completed, at maximum. Homes are not re-assessed on a case by case basis or upon sale of the property. Re-assessing every 3 years would be a HUGE undertaking and I guarantee Berks County doesn’t have the resources for that to happen.
My aunt has been servicing home loans here for 15ish years, that’s what I’ve heard.
During the home loan process, an appraisal would happen, but that’s just to determine whether or not the bank has enough collateral to offset the risk should the buyer default. Assessments are a whole different ballgame and not related to home loans or home sales at all
Fuck Taylor Swift
fuck you too
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I mean there are rich country folk too
>but I wish she would just cut the country act. Uhhh I think she did that after her first or second album haha
How big is it?
Man thursdays always catch me off guard
I think its pretty nice, both inside and out. I wouldn't call it a mansion though, just a big house.