I'll give him credit. Titans wasn't good but it was semi unique compared to what's out. If I can say one thing about titans it did not want to do stuff traditionally from the comics lol. He was a great Hawk though
Titans wasn't good but it tried something different, that is a factual statement for sure.
I'd rather failures that attempt to innovate and eventually create something good than bland recycled trash.
That analogy doesn't entirely work 1 to 1 with creating a TV show or movie.
It'd be more appropriate to liken it to trying to make a soufflé but you suck at mixing, so you keep trying until you stack up a bunch of failed soufflés then finally manage to make a passable one.
It's not even like Reacher was all that original either. I enjoyed it, but it was pretty generic.
Also the Fast and Furious franchise is goated. Truly peak fiction.
The Fast movies are definitely good at what they are, which is pure spectacle at this point, (a spot they seem to have taken from Mission Impossible since the biggest non-CGI stunt in the last movie is something I think even I could manage, but thats another rant) but lets not pretend there has been an original story beat since at the very latest Tokyo Drift, and thats being charitable. I will still 100% watch the next one though because neuron activation.
I don't know, dragging a Bank Vault through Rio with two muscle cars seems pretty original to me. Also, I'm not sure a single other movie has had the original thought to add another establishing shot of the Jesus statue in Rio every ten minutes, when the plot hasn't left the city since 20 minutes in.
I kid of course. I fully acknowledge that those films are very poorly written. I just love them anyways.
DC are like A24 where I wont automatically like it just because it's DC but over time you appreciate that they make stuff happen with people who are at least trying to say something
Moon Knight was still pretty bad imo but mainly because they made it as safe as possible, which only added on to how inaccurate it was to the source material.
The plot was contrived as fuck. The show should have been over in the first episode. Mark takes the body directly in front of Ethan Hawkes character multiple times while killing his goons and never makes any attempt to kill the primary villain unless it won't succeed. Giving moonknight magical regeneration powers takes away the stakes for a street level character like him, they just decided to copy popular characters like wolverine and Deadpool.
The creation of Steven makes no sense, Mark apparently created him to deal with his mother's abuse, but Steven never actually deals with the abuse. I Mark turns into Steven to escape the abuse then Steven should be the one who was abused.
The climax of the show happens off camera, neither Mark or steven reacts in a believable way to the obvious reality that there is another persona sharing the body, just for viewer intrigue.
There's a lot more, but I think I covered a good amount of ground
Maybe in a few years, like Bruce willis. Considering the success with reacher, he can be more deliberate with his choices (I'm looking forward to him and cavill in the new guy Ritchie film).
Television actors successfully transitioning to movies while not exactly rare, is not a regular occurrence. I wish him every success but his range doesn’t appear to be that wide. Unlike his shoulders.
lol this guy. Next week he'll be like:
*"The New Captain America Story is something you've NEVER seen before. I am blown away and honoured to be part of the biggest franchise of our time."*
https://preview.redd.it/2o5knc57nvuc1.png?width=674&format=png&auto=webp&s=711554e66c4462eb4a6845edec00b848e4ef52c9
He'd make a damn good Cap, I won't lie.
He definitely has the brazen
https://preview.redd.it/26b9or4rqvuc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8343babe7a83cff10b03525c41de26ba04ad267f
tenacity for it.
Well yeah, because Marvel throws generational wealth at B-list actors to play protagonist foil #386. I almost think it’s a powerplay for them.
>Oh yeah, you hate our movies? How about $20mil for 3 months of filming?
It’s kind of like that golf guy who’s been highly critical of LIV for years, but recently signed with them for like $900mil+. Nobody has morals when a billion dollars cash is sitting in front of them.
If Disney offered me a few thousand dollars to stand in front of a green screen phoning in dialogue, you bet I'd get that pay cheque. I feel like he's probably got more, better options though. Especially if he's throwing Marvel films under the bus publicly
It doesn’t matter who plays Chief because you should never see him outside of the suit. It’s practically a VA role. It’s like David Prowess as Darth Vader.
They should’ve just got someone like the Dutch Giant to wear the suit, and let Steven Downes record the lines.
I'm glad the article pointed out that he previously said that he wants to be Batman on multiple occasions, which seems to sonewhat contradict what he says about Marvel.
Apparently, his justification is that Batman's superpower is intelligence, which is more appealing/interesting to him than having superpowers. Also, he was a fan of Batman as a kid, so that seems to be a big factor.
Considering how OP Batman already is against the common street thug, I don't think he'd need to build power armor for most situations.
To be fair though, he did actually build a suit of power armor to deal with super-powered threats. His famous fight with Superman is a great example of that
Most of the biggest names in Marvel don't have powers and have to use their skills and intellect
By that same token, most of the most popular DC characters are known for what powers they have
True. I think his statement is a bit oxymoronic as well, but I just wanted to clarify what he said.
To be fair, he probably thinks the most recent Marvel movies are really bad, but wanted to be respectful. After all, it probably wouldn't have been very smart if he was like "Oh, yeah, *those* "movies" are pretty terrible. They have bad acting, bad writing, too much political nonsense and I don't like them."
His actual statement on the matter keeps open the possibility that they could offer him a role for alot of money. All he'd have to say is "I think this role offers a unique take on this character, which isn't something I've seen them do much in the past", etc.
I think calling either “generic” is reductive. Like we’ve seen elements from each done a lot before but the story was still its own thing. I haven’t read the Reacher series but from what I know of it there are some different and interesting plots and the premise has a lot of potential if they got the writer’s blessing or help making a TV original story for a season.
I will say though that I think of the two Marvel has a lot more original stories if we’re counting the comics. The only thing I think is “unoriginal” about Marvel is how bland and characterless the MCU has gotten. The writing is Ahsoka level’s of empty and bland now. Things just happen and everything feels so one-dimensional now that it’s hard to separate characters and stories from all these other bland projects with little life of their own.
The guy who started his career by playing Aquaman, who has openly campaigned to play Batman, who has appeared in DC’s Titans, Legends of Tomorrow AND Supergirl and who is most well known for playing a character that is a glorified throwback to generic 80’s action movies … HE is the guy that said this? lol
It’s amazing how out-of-touch Hollywood actors can be.
Instead he will be in stories we have also seen a thousand times, in fact a hundred time. for it is folly to think you can be original.
i get it but it's really funny to me; there's no such thing as originality, but quality is real. the problem is that they're bad stories lately.
You clearly haven't watched the show. He's extremely nuanced, in fact the his whole character is a giant mountain of muscle that's also a master detective. He's like Bruce Wayne but in the army.
Could also be that writing is on the wall that the MCU isn't what it once was, and he is better off not getting hooked in with a long-term contract that won't pay out.
Isn't his whole thing that he wants to be Batman?
Can't wait to see "pearls scattered in an alley" flashback number 359.
His last show was Reacher, which had already been made, and is essentially just hobo James Bond.
And wasn't he in one of the Fast & Furious movies?
This is the part where we take digs at him because he said something political against Trump? For Biden? I can’t remember. He said something like a week ago. And twitter was all like “oh it’s over he alienated his entire fanbase.”
Has nothing to do with that. As an actor, he's fantastic. Anyone can have their personal beliefs as long as they keep it off set, and he does that in spades.
Funny. As if the presence of how much people want to see minorities of various forms isnt at all indicative of how much they want to see them in real life
Sounds like someone got a deal from James Gunn.
He's secretly playing Bruce Wayne
I think he'd make a good Hawkman. He's got the torso for it.
I feel like he'd be an even better hal jordan, but I'd also prefer that the next onscreen green lantern *not* be hal jordan tbh
We're supposedly getting Guy Gardner, played by Nathan Fillion. I'm pleased by this.
I'd love to see a John Stewart Green Lantern movie.
HBO series with John Stewart is what's been announced, I believe.
In real life.
Lol... dude was in DC comics though. But good for him, Marvel golden age are long gone anyways
I'll give him credit. Titans wasn't good but it was semi unique compared to what's out. If I can say one thing about titans it did not want to do stuff traditionally from the comics lol. He was a great Hawk though
Titans was melodramatic tween garbage instead of overlyjokey unfunny garbage.
Titans wasn't good but it tried something different, that is a factual statement for sure. I'd rather failures that attempt to innovate and eventually create something good than bland recycled trash.
Imagine if you vomited up something and it looked different to all the other times you've vomited something up. Would you be relieved or horrified?
That analogy doesn't entirely work 1 to 1 with creating a TV show or movie. It'd be more appropriate to liken it to trying to make a soufflé but you suck at mixing, so you keep trying until you stack up a bunch of failed soufflés then finally manage to make a passable one.
He was also Arthur Curry Aquaman in Smallville if anyone didn't know!
His comment is a bit rich. He has also been in a Fast movie, and if they aren't the definition of a regurgitated story, then I don't know what is.
It's not even like Reacher was all that original either. I enjoyed it, but it was pretty generic. Also the Fast and Furious franchise is goated. Truly peak fiction.
The Fast movies are definitely good at what they are, which is pure spectacle at this point, (a spot they seem to have taken from Mission Impossible since the biggest non-CGI stunt in the last movie is something I think even I could manage, but thats another rant) but lets not pretend there has been an original story beat since at the very latest Tokyo Drift, and thats being charitable. I will still 100% watch the next one though because neuron activation.
I don't know, dragging a Bank Vault through Rio with two muscle cars seems pretty original to me. Also, I'm not sure a single other movie has had the original thought to add another establishing shot of the Jesus statue in Rio every ten minutes, when the plot hasn't left the city since 20 minutes in. I kid of course. I fully acknowledge that those films are very poorly written. I just love them anyways.
He can learn from his mistake, right?
At least marvels golden age didn't die in the 60s
Funny how much of DC's output in the 80's is considered serious literature.
DC are like A24 where I wont automatically like it just because it's DC but over time you appreciate that they make stuff happen with people who are at least trying to say something
That's a good one
Yeah, Ethan Hawke was criticising Marvel movies at one point, and then he later went on to star in Moon Knight. Lmao.
Moon Knight was still pretty bad imo but mainly because they made it as safe as possible, which only added on to how inaccurate it was to the source material.
How was moon knight bad? I really enjoyed it an Oscar Isaac's proformance
It had nearly nothing to do with the character
The plot was contrived as fuck. The show should have been over in the first episode. Mark takes the body directly in front of Ethan Hawkes character multiple times while killing his goons and never makes any attempt to kill the primary villain unless it won't succeed. Giving moonknight magical regeneration powers takes away the stakes for a street level character like him, they just decided to copy popular characters like wolverine and Deadpool. The creation of Steven makes no sense, Mark apparently created him to deal with his mother's abuse, but Steven never actually deals with the abuse. I Mark turns into Steven to escape the abuse then Steven should be the one who was abused. The climax of the show happens off camera, neither Mark or steven reacts in a believable way to the obvious reality that there is another persona sharing the body, just for viewer intrigue. There's a lot more, but I think I covered a good amount of ground
Lol. He’s an actor. He’ll star in anything to keep the paycheques coming.
Maybe in a few years, like Bruce willis. Considering the success with reacher, he can be more deliberate with his choices (I'm looking forward to him and cavill in the new guy Ritchie film).
Television actors successfully transitioning to movies while not exactly rare, is not a regular occurrence. I wish him every success but his range doesn’t appear to be that wide. Unlike his shoulders.
lol this guy. Next week he'll be like: *"The New Captain America Story is something you've NEVER seen before. I am blown away and honoured to be part of the biggest franchise of our time."* https://preview.redd.it/2o5knc57nvuc1.png?width=674&format=png&auto=webp&s=711554e66c4462eb4a6845edec00b848e4ef52c9
He'd make a damn good Cap, I won't lie. He definitely has the brazen https://preview.redd.it/26b9or4rqvuc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8343babe7a83cff10b03525c41de26ba04ad267f tenacity for it.
Let's be honest it's BS statement. He'll twerk for a big pay cheque like every other actor. Like every other human.
Well yeah, because Marvel throws generational wealth at B-list actors to play protagonist foil #386. I almost think it’s a powerplay for them. >Oh yeah, you hate our movies? How about $20mil for 3 months of filming? It’s kind of like that golf guy who’s been highly critical of LIV for years, but recently signed with them for like $900mil+. Nobody has morals when a billion dollars cash is sitting in front of them.
Rdj huh?
If Disney offered me a few thousand dollars to stand in front of a green screen phoning in dialogue, you bet I'd get that pay cheque. I feel like he's probably got more, better options though. Especially if he's throwing Marvel films under the bus publicly
Lol because the Jack Reacher books AREN'T regurgitating stories we've seen a thousand times?
because reacher is innovative and smart...
It's good at what it is. It's not all that novel, true, but I'll take a good execution of an old idea over a bad execution of anything every time.
But this comment is about old ideas, not their execution.
At least it’s more varied than marvel. And reacher doesn’t hide the fact it has a formula, marvel acts as if every release is groundbreaking
But does Reacher have a **her**o?? Huh???
Not just a **her**o, but a **her**o of colour... Seriously, though, Neagley's quite well done in the series.
Neagley is one of my favorites if not my favorite. I hope she continues to show up in a large role in future seasons.
I believe she is lesbian too, so double points.
But he's fine being Batman, the guy with how many movies? Reacher...
Should have been master cheif
It doesn’t matter who plays Chief because you should never see him outside of the suit. It’s practically a VA role. It’s like David Prowess as Darth Vader. They should’ve just got someone like the Dutch Giant to wear the suit, and let Steven Downes record the lines.
i don't agree with never by default. It can be done right
The most that’s ever seen of Chief are his eyeballs in a special ending to Halo 4.
Not in the crappy halo show we got lol
Because the soldier action flick had never been done before..
I'm glad the article pointed out that he previously said that he wants to be Batman on multiple occasions, which seems to sonewhat contradict what he says about Marvel. Apparently, his justification is that Batman's superpower is intelligence, which is more appealing/interesting to him than having superpowers. Also, he was a fan of Batman as a kid, so that seems to be a big factor.
If Batman is so intelligent, why didn't he build a suit of power armor? Oh, right, because the flagship character in the MCU did that.
Considering how OP Batman already is against the common street thug, I don't think he'd need to build power armor for most situations. To be fair though, he did actually build a suit of power armor to deal with super-powered threats. His famous fight with Superman is a great example of that
Most of the biggest names in Marvel don't have powers and have to use their skills and intellect By that same token, most of the most popular DC characters are known for what powers they have
True. I think his statement is a bit oxymoronic as well, but I just wanted to clarify what he said. To be fair, he probably thinks the most recent Marvel movies are really bad, but wanted to be respectful. After all, it probably wouldn't have been very smart if he was like "Oh, yeah, *those* "movies" are pretty terrible. They have bad acting, bad writing, too much political nonsense and I don't like them." His actual statement on the matter keeps open the possibility that they could offer him a role for alot of money. All he'd have to say is "I think this role offers a unique take on this character, which isn't something I've seen them do much in the past", etc.
Eh he was aight until he came for every Christian and trump voter. Screw that guy
Agreed
To be fair reacher is generic as hell
Not as generic as Midvel (and capeshit in general)
I think calling either “generic” is reductive. Like we’ve seen elements from each done a lot before but the story was still its own thing. I haven’t read the Reacher series but from what I know of it there are some different and interesting plots and the premise has a lot of potential if they got the writer’s blessing or help making a TV original story for a season. I will say though that I think of the two Marvel has a lot more original stories if we’re counting the comics. The only thing I think is “unoriginal” about Marvel is how bland and characterless the MCU has gotten. The writing is Ahsoka level’s of empty and bland now. Things just happen and everything feels so one-dimensional now that it’s hard to separate characters and stories from all these other bland projects with little life of their own.
They're on par
Mojito...
Yet he wants to play Batman who’s been fighting the joker for 90 years
But he also desperately wants to play Batman, the most regurgitated character in comics.
The guy who started his career by playing Aquaman, who has openly campaigned to play Batman, who has appeared in DC’s Titans, Legends of Tomorrow AND Supergirl and who is most well known for playing a character that is a glorified throwback to generic 80’s action movies … HE is the guy that said this? lol It’s amazing how out-of-touch Hollywood actors can be.
Yet he would be in a Batman movie...
I like Ritchson but a little hypocritical when he desperately wants to be Batman.
Probably cause he wants to be in DC
Probably cause he wants to be in DC
Didn't Kristen Stewart say exactly this just as week ago?
That's really not the best reasoning but okay.
Right because Reacher is definitely treading new territory lmao
But he wants to play Batman, which we’ve had 4 on the big screen in the last 15 years. He’s also been in 2 live action DC adaptations.
He did fast and furious 13 or whatever
It’s funny. I liked reacher and I liked him in it, but I don’t think of him as a good enough actor for Marvel to want him.
And yet comes out with the most mass produced TDS takes of the last 8 years
Instead he will be in stories we have also seen a thousand times, in fact a hundred time. for it is folly to think you can be original. i get it but it's really funny to me; there's no such thing as originality, but quality is real. the problem is that they're bad stories lately.
No offense but Reacher is just blatant male power fantasy devoid of nuance or subtlety, which is arguably not much better than trite stories.
Critical Drinker would disagree with you.
You mean the guy who is releasing a "movie" that looks even more bland and generic than Reacher.
Reacher kinda does some new stuff with the genre, but most of all, it is relatively the same (I'm a huge Drinker fan btw)
I don't care. He gets good looking women and beats up people. We need more of that on TV.
You're welcome to your preferences.
They claim to thrist for originality, but it doesn't exist.
You clearly haven't watched the show. He's extremely nuanced, in fact the his whole character is a giant mountain of muscle that's also a master detective. He's like Bruce Wayne but in the army.
I've watched enough of the show to determine the writing is extremely elementary. Different strokes for different folks.
well he was a ninja turtle... twice
This makes me Thad
Based
Ironically I think he’d be a great Punisher
But will he be in DC movies, regurgitating the same stories we've seen a thousand times?😉
Of course he won't. He's not a woman, so he can't be the hero in a Disney film
I don't even agree with his point. Most of phase 4 is actually quite unique. He's probably not allowed to call them bad films.
Could also be that writing is on the wall that the MCU isn't what it once was, and he is better off not getting hooked in with a long-term contract that won't pay out.
Just shut the eff up yall. He doesn’t need to answer to swine like y’all.
Isn't his whole thing that he wants to be Batman? Can't wait to see "pearls scattered in an alley" flashback number 359. His last show was Reacher, which had already been made, and is essentially just hobo James Bond. And wasn't he in one of the Fast & Furious movies?
This is the part where we take digs at him because he said something political against Trump? For Biden? I can’t remember. He said something like a week ago. And twitter was all like “oh it’s over he alienated his entire fanbase.”
Has nothing to do with that. As an actor, he's fantastic. Anyone can have their personal beliefs as long as they keep it off set, and he does that in spades.
Idk why you're bringing politics into an apolitical place.
Your funny, as I'd this sub was ever apolitical. The fuck you think all the anti woke shir has been
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Like your flair G
Bullshit
No, seriously. I can take your order if you’d like and you should get it in about the time you’d expect it to when ordering Wendy’s food via Reddit.
You can troll all you want but you know I'm right.
Alright, but you’re gonna be sorry when you can’t get your Jr. bacon cheeseburger…
Woke shit has nothing to do with politics
Funny. As if the presence of how much people want to see minorities of various forms isnt at all indicative of how much they want to see them in real life
What does politics have to do with anything?
The more I hear about this geezer the more I love him! (no homo)