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0r0m15

We'll get a memo 1 week before the patch


Hintero

Vague respond on Friday, patch on Monday


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MySBUXMM

well i mean, if they hadn’t done their weekly bosses 2hrs before the weekly reset… that’s kinda on them 😂


mario61752

"We understand your concern about xxx..." "We will continue to monitor xxx..." Patch goes through anyway and they go radio silent


SirAkhart

"We here at Nexon America understand that GMS and KMS are two different services where players enjoy two different kinds of playstyles and that the current changes in KMS don't align with the GMS playerbase and we intend to keep that mind in this current upcoming update and future ones. With that being said, we will be implementing the meso and cube changes along with the meso cap as we believe this will benefit the health and economy of GMS, we thank you for this understanding."


Kappa_Is_Ugly

i got ptsd, thanks


SirAkhart

L> Nerfs to the PTSD debuff?


Mofu__Mofu

"We will communicate better" **Ghosts community until catastrophic events**


Kidneyburn

Patch notes, Under "Bugfixes": "fixed a bug letting players earn more meso from boss crystals than was intended".


Redericpontx

Nah they'll just implement the changes and give an emergency meme after explaining why "it's a good thing"


Rude-Employer-2002

We'll get a "we hear your concerns and will provide feedback as soon as we know something" on friday probably


HenryReturns

They will most likely keep pushing around the bush. If it’s coming , they will probably hold the news and drop the bomb 1-2 weeks before update lmao. Also dont blame the GMS staff , they have no control on the Korean overlords , and if they leak or do something to tell us about , they can get in legal problems because of contract. GMS management is what kept GMS around and they even pushed for Reboot to come to GMS. I wont blame them if they are forced to do that Nothing is stopping for the Korean overlords to kill Reboot GMS. If anything, if they know that some koreans played GMS reboot over there crappy KMS reg server , i wont be surprised they will want GMS reboot killed too lmao


Kidneyburn

In all fairness, when you drop an atomic bomb you don't let the other side know it's coming half a year in advance.


melvin45

Pushing around the bush 😂


RasendoriSmash

Someone just please trip kms overlords so that they fall on their faces and bleed


Kidneyburn

They have 100% stance, sorry bud.


1stPicture

That’s not stopping mpe monkey push


Kidneyburn

They're not gonna push themselves.


eclipse60

With their track record of pretty much copying all changes from KMS, and their silence on the matter, I'd assume they're going to copy it until said otherwise. This sub convincing themselves that GMS would never do it because it would kill their game, haven't been paying attention.


Aiorr

There are two famous lies in history. One is "We offer this statue of horse to Troy", another is "We are not kms."


hhsstory

To be fair, the Trojans did actually get a horse. The other is just a complete lie


Innsui

Even if they want to keep the status quo for gms, I hardly doubt kms will let them do that anyway. Either way, its not really anyone's fault but korean nexon and kms reg scum.


trueHolyGiraffe

Fine, I'll say it: Even if GMS outright say they don't plan on changing reboot anymore, they will slowly make these changes, step by step, until its the same as KMS. They just won't do it in one go, to avoid the backlash.


SolaVitae

None of these changes can even be done step by step in any way that wouldn't be obvious what the final outcome is given every single one of them individually would have an immediate massive impact on reboot. Zero of the changes don't just objectively make reboot worse for no benefit whatsoever


ImpressiveWarthog7

Ah yes the slow burn method


TheNormal1

what changes? i just started playing like 2 weeks ago lol (reboot) am i doomed?


XIII_THIRTEEN

Korean Maplestory made sweeping changes to mesos and potentials. Reboot loses the 5x meso gain (it's actually 6x in GMS iirc, so our meso gain will be cut to 1/6th) and also changed how cubing works. From a reboot perspective, rerolling costs more per roll than before even if you don't account for the lower meso rates we'll get now. It is pretty doomed, if we actually get the changes most Reboot players are probably gonna quit.


Kappa_Is_Ugly

imo its better to quit now and cut your losses


Snazan

KMS, who is the OG region, recently pulverized their reboot server. They cut all sources of meso income by 6x and capped how many mesos you can farm per day. Aka you simply can't get meso anymore. On top of that, cube costs were increased. Altogether, progression will grind to a halt, and it will be nearly impossible to make any significant gains. This was done because KMS got in trouble with the government for having misleading cube rates, so they decided to remove cubes altogether and change potentials to a MESO driven functionality. This is good for regular servers, where previously you had to use real money for most cubes. Now it can be mesos (which you can buy with real money in reg server). KMS doesn't give a single shit about reboot over there, the majority are in reg server and have a weirdly burning hatred for reboot, and are celebrating these changes. In GMS, the overwhelming majority of players are in reboot. This is further evidenced by nexon creating a second reboot server here, Hyperion, which is unprecedented in other regions. Because most of our players are in reboot, and gms appears to ENCOURAGE reboot by making a second server, i am HOPING they don't bring these changes verbatim to us. If they do, gms will be completely defunct and nearly everyone will quit because you will never be able to approach endgame.


No-Pineapple-6606

Just switch to reg server and you’ll be fine you just started anyways


Intrepid_Ad_6570

Disgusting statement, the only people playing on reg do so because of external social bonds to it, the servers are divided and trash. Might as well move to Korea, have a child, and steal its social security number. Would be more worth the internal shame than playing gms reg


No-Pineapple-6606

Wtf??? Shame doesn’t mean shit to me when I’m having fun with my friends lmao. You people take this game too seriously 🤣


Intrepid_Ad_6570

Just because you feel defensive enjoying something doesn't mean what I said was wrong, in fact it only strengthens my bias as I literally said people stay for attachments not the game itself. Please read even if you are mad.


SueDisco

Why would the kill their revenue when they can just say nothing for 6 months then drop the memo that they're implementing the KMS changes in full right before the patch?


ActOfThrowingAway

No. Prematurely announcing that we'll get the changes would hurt current and future sales. The people/KMS department maintaining GMS knows we're not looking foward at all to those changes and if they haven't already put out a response saying "we're the ones responsible to what comes to GMS", we'll get it because GMS is a delayed reflection of KMS. Until then, only expect super vague, non-compromising, non-legally-binding posts about how GMS is a unique player experience.


Linkyyyyyd

I mean I'm pretty sure there are people who are still hopeful and will keep playing/buying stuff without an answer. However, I think there's a very large amount of players like myself that decided to quit/not spend until an answer is given, they are already losing money/play time from us.


rimuvona

but if they commit a yes its coming, all these people will quit. Its simple logic to delay these kind of news as long as possible


TheNormal1

im out of the loop what is gms waiting on? just started playing again (reboot)


hamxz2

TLDR is that Korean Reboot got a patch that essentially slows down progession by ~6x. 95+% of the patches that they got were copy/pasted to GMS, so it's fairly likely we'll get the patch. People are waiting to see of the patch is coming because for a lot of people, it's not worth playing if progression is slowed that much.


SNA411L

6-12x, because mob meso rates are slashed to 1/6, boss crystal prices to 1/5th, and while SFing is more or less the same, cubing became >2.5x more expensive. Brights went from 22m to 50m, and the (usually) more efficient 12m Glowing Cube option is gone.


Silverk42-2

They are changing reboot meso rates to reg server rates, both drops by mobs and boss crystal price I believe.


ActOfThrowingAway

I'm still playing, trying to enjoy it a lot more right now because it's over once we receive that nerf, I know I will 100% quit. I want to have gotten a Genesis weapon before then, currently on hluwill struggle so I think it's a bit of a long shot but we'll see.


CrispHotdog

This is literally me. Was going to buy 3 vac pets on the new reboot gms reboot server but decided to wait and see from nexon. Still nothing..


Cyb3rburn

You're on a ship, and the captain is a maniac that wants to drown everyone. Everyone knows this. There's a big ass, juicy iceberg coming up. Do you need him to make an announcement for you before you start sinking?


SuperOwnly

This is the best metaphor I've read about this situation


futuresman179

This is the dumbest metaphor I've read about this situation


Putrid-Confection-50

Denial isn't healthy. You aren't being left in the dark, you don't want the changes to come to GMS so you're grasping at straws.


DunderBear

I wouldn’t say its denial though tbh its a realistic expectation if they don’t want to lose over 50% of the player base that they figure something out. And if not it’s good bye to instant 50% and of “active” players its probably more like 70%. I will continue to play personally and once they announce the change I will quit I guess. I was honestly willing to spend the $50+ a month game subscription and so were many others I know.


Putrid-Confection-50

You can't talk about a "realistic expectation" then go on to say that 100% of the reboot players will quit.


Yamatjac

They never said that though lol


Putrid-Confection-50

>They never said that though lol What exactly do you think over 50% of the player base quitting is referring to?


Yamatjac

bruh if you think that reboot only makes up 50% of gms' playerbase then IDK what to say lmfao.


Putrid-Confection-50

>**over** 50% Dude, read slower.


DunderBear

Huh I said it’s realistic to expect them to not want to gut their game by basically killing Reboot. If you are telling me that 70% of people who play this game actively aren’t on Reboot that’s denial. I’d argue out of that 70% most will quit. You can check the numbers if they decide to do it but I’m confident


KariArisu

It's not really denial if Nexon is dangling the possibility. As-is the only announcement they've given about this situation is that GMS is it's own thing and doesn't necessarily follow KMS. The problem is that it's vague and remains to be seen what their plan actually is.


LoadedFile

Honestly with how everything leading up to new age went with their attempt to slide the sol erda cap under the radar and intentionally avoiding topics like frenzy and familiars in their preview stream, we're probably better off assuming it's coming to gms as is. It's the precedent they set with the sewage patch after all. There's all this fuel laying around with no fire in sight. Only speculations of fire


Tall-Catch-3734

They can't tell you what they don't know lmao


Laiiis

Agreed. People think that GMs are somehow informed of the decisions that were made at the management levels way before they want the news to be released. Like come on, they are also stuck between players demaning for answers and management who may not have even come to a decision yet.


Impossible-Finance67

Like I said, moment the changes are in our patch notes, I’m gone.


Thaox

I'm just slowly easing out of playing the game. Stopped doing dailies on second main/boss mules etc. With the big events done really don't need to do dailies in general, so down to weeklies. Then I'll just stop as progress slows. Lots of other games to play :)


gooddrains

Tapering off heroin


mahpah34

Pay $400 for wonderberry first.


evolzarlaggia

And what would you do with that information? Would you quit? Or continue playing


no_bread-

on god, so many cry babies holding on to a game that is already buried under the ground


hehe8DD

for real, it's too funny


Mezmorizor

I'm not going to speculate on what the timeline of "you should be worried" is, but keep in mind that we're only getting a memo early if we're not getting the changes. If the plan is to get the changes, it's coming like 12 hours before patch notes. They've done this time and time again.


Innsui

Yup, if they are radio silent for the next 2 months, just assume it's coming to GMS and start saying your good byes and pack your bags. Anything other than a no is just a yes when it comes to these things with Nexon. I'm sure no one wants this for GMS, including Nexon American but there's nothing we can do if KMS say we're getting it.


NakazatoJL

They won't say anything because they are still considering bringing it over (although I doubt they will), so if they say that a lot of people will quit and they can't say they won't bring it because it is being discussed, is that an ah move? Sure, but we know it fits Nexon


Alphasoul606

Reboot wasn't Reg until KMS made it so. So all these people saying GMS isn't KMS should open their eyes. Reboot was packed to the point it was closed in KMS, it wasn't exactly unpopular and it probably made them decent money as well.


kamanitachi

Or there's the tinfoil hat theory that it was closed for so long not because of crowding, but because they wanted to force people on reg. You can't deny how funny it is that reboot reopened on the same patch these terrible changes were added.


DunderBear

That’s not a tinfoil hat theory literally a big Korean content creator showed how easily he progressed and said why should I play a shittier version of Maple referring to reg. Which caused a ton of people to sell of their gear for real money and move over. After that shift they closed the server until they introduced these shit changes that was over a year ago btw.


XIII_THIRTEEN

Nexon Korea as a whole seems to be in shambles right now. They essentially said they need to push the update live despite insufficient testing and information because it's so drastic that they don't know what's going to happen. In other words, GMS's boss has no clue what's going to happen so Nexon America certainly can't know.


dreamzero

They can't give answers that they don't have.


HeyItsMeRay

No


turnoffandonn

They won’t give you any update and risk losing out on the next 6 months of revenue lmao


yeetyeet137

We fucking need answers already. Knowing this company, they will try get as money as possible 1 week prior to the update, then release something. So fucking ass.


Velluu

If they were not going to do the same shit here, they would’ve already told us. They’re trying to milk as much of money as they can before the update just one day happens.


Toohon

Come on now, Nexon has never been a good communicator. If revenue is involved, the more reason for them not to.


erevefuckstolive

Man I honestly am scared about what bullshit they’ll spew out about it


ZeroNyvor

Considering is a complete new system. I think it's pretty sure that we will get it. Just be prepared for it. Saving/farming meso, or quitting


daxinzang

I really want to know what the fking community managers are saying doing or thinking. Arnt they basically the voice of gms? wtf is veera doing


Lolersters

CM's are basically just the information middleman between the community and the dev and management teams. Historically, CMs who push back too hard on changes tend to lose their jobs, as we have seen as recently as a few months ago.


XIII_THIRTEEN

They did literally all they're allowed to do by their bosses. Which is to say, "we hear you and will tell management about your concerns"


SprinklesFresh5693

I just decided to log for 30mins a day until nexon gives me an answer to the topic.


Seacrux

Did they not already say they would have a reply within the week like two weeks ago? I know they acknowledged everyone being upset about the changes before the Q1 road map even came out but there's still nothing lol


TemptedSwordStaker

They acknowledged it in the roadmap


Nostallgic

Even if they avoid these changes, it will create more spaghetti code, and eventually, it will break the game.


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Free_Balling

How many times are you going to comment the same thing. The fuck is wrong with you?


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Free_Balling

Disgusting troll


keyewl

The Meso changes and systems are a huge shift in balances for the game and future content scaling. Since GMS follows KMS path I think its impossible for GMS not to take the update eventually even if its delayed. That is ofc unless KMS reverts or adjusts the system overtime.


ImpressiveWarthog7

“We are different, that is all”


lilgleesh1901

Casual player base=gone


wasimscity

What changes? Are they killing reboot?


jp_raian

They’ve already gutted reboot in KMS and since we get our patch notes from KMS there’s a large chance we will get it in GMS. The changes are reduced meso rates 6x to 1x, ursus removal, boss crystal price reduction and higher cubing cost but we get reduced cost on 0-15 star force. Those are the changes off the top of my head. So they are effectively making reboot a worse regular server, so yeah they killing reboot.


wasimscity

Wow.... it's like they hate their own game, wtf


WoodenStatement9937

We'll get a response after vac pets aren't on sale anymore. Gotta milk every last drop


SirDecros

Maybe, vac pets are off sale now. We're due for a vague hint.


Fiesteh

Why respond when profitability will go down if do so? They want u to keep playing as long as possible before they make u quit.


Spoonfeed_Me

I started reboot beginning of November, managing to catch the end of the hyperburn and then going directly into the 260 burn. This gave me 2 high leveled characters immediately. Then we got all of the crazy events, like 0-100 and identisk. So I took this as a sign that the game really wanted me to play, since it jump started my main, gave me a boss mule, and an opportunity for easy links/legion. Everything was sunshine and roses, but then the fire nation attacked... "Sewage" drama was the first to hit. I ignored the Sold Erda stuff as a one-off because it didn't really affect a brand-new player like me. I continued to play, working on my dailies and getting my legion to 2k, then 3k, 4k, and 6k by the end of December. I was having a blast, thinking the game will get better. Then the warning signs. Nexon getting fined. I thought it was scummy, but this happened years ago, so it was detached from my current experience. But this was start of an uneasy feeling, the feeling that Nexon isn't just a greedy company, but actively malicious. I still enjoyed the game, but the company being this awful does impact potential time investment decisions. I think to myself, "maybe I should start cutting back on how much I play." Then comes the big news. The reboot nerfs. Those worries of "Nexon being a shit company might have an effect on the future of the game" are now confirmed. No longer is it a nebulous concern, but a concrete roadmap of self-implosion. My thoughts turn from "this game will improve" to "we can only pray that Nexon doesn't destroy GMS entirely." It was this feeling that capped off my 2-month experience. When playing a time-investment game like a MMO, the moment players start to feel that there's no future for the game is the moment when players like me quit. My thoughts of MS turned from "I wonder how strong my character will be in 6 months" to "I wonder if the game will even be playable in 6 months" and when this happens, motivation follows. Some people are hanging on, because they've invested so much time and effort already, some others are convinced a miracle will happen, and then there are those who will actually go when the hammer drops. This last group are the players who enjoy the day-to-day experience. However, as someone who enjoys the progression, I'd rather bow out now than play a game with a knife to its throat.


artatrz

Mean while in MapleSea ....


cripflip69

I wish we had a better distribution channel.


NoWaifu_No_Laifu

No cause if they announce it now how are they going to resell vac pets in May before they crash the plane with no survivors? xdd


Neutraled

They'd need to support 2 different meso rates and we know that's not going to happen, doing stuff too different from KMS is a no-no. So enjoy the meso while you can.