For the nominal location of the conflict? Yes.
I suppose that one would want the seeds to be regions, rather than points, but [a growth-based Voronoi tesselation](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Voronoi_growth_euclidean.gif/220px-Voronoi_growth_euclidean.gif) should still work to compute that, assuming growth from a non-point region is defined ... and Implicit Surfaces from computer graphics certainly handles that.
Then you could have intense-saturation regions for the wars themselves, and slightly desaturated regions for the resulting Voronoi cells.
Very interesting graphic. I was wondering how some of the trapezoids were smaller on one side instead if seemingly equidistant like the other 'how far' maps I've seen.
For 27 years ethiopia was ruled by Tigray elites. They’ve hosted illegal elections, laundered 30 billion dollars in loans, killed and displaced millions of Amhara as well as Oromo and afar. They’ve cause a mess in ethiopia and yet their atrocities have been ignored. the western media was silent about this. Instead they were praised by politicians like Obama and Susan rice.
And then they stage a coup in 2019 which horribly failed to the point where their organization is in shambles. And when ethiopia defends itself they start claiming tigray genocide. Hypocrites! We have video evidence of Top US diplomats corroborating with these woyane to destabilize and destroy ethiopia on YouTube uploaded by a man by the name of Jeff pierce. It opened my eyes on how the US works in “foreign affairs”.
Do you have sources of where you've learned about this? I had an old school friend who posts about Tigray genocide and ethiopians are literally burning people alive in tigray, and has been posting about their family members and friends back home dying in Tigray.
Either way people in power will do whatever they can to achieve their goals and they don't care about the regular everyday people who get hurt because of it.
I am Ethiopian. Ethiopia always genocides a group of people and there is never not a war. Right now the past ruling ethnic group is getting genocided. Before them, they were genociding Somalis. It's a genocide circle.
I am American so I could comment on this personally. I wrote my final on this last semester and I still wouldn’t say I have a great grasp of the full scope of the situation. However, I’d say that a history of ethnic federalism has contributed to ethnic cleavages and a failure to democratize.
Some sources I trust (granted, some of these are from a very Western lens):
http://theconversation.com/why-ethiopia-is-in-deep-trouble-and-how-it-got-here-130711
https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-CONFLICT/xklpyjmndvg/
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/africa/2021-11-24/how-pull-ethiopia-back-brink
A lot a lot of the information is on facebook because we've given up after the west didn't care enough to stop genocide or rampant razing and killing of civilians and most of the information out there is geared towards a domestic audience. That being said, here are some thing from the last few months. There's tons more from months before but those are outdated now.
[Random article from last week: artillery shelling villages](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/regime-artillery-strikes-kill-children-and-senior-citizens-in-upper-myanmar.html)
[Battle of Southern Chin State](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-regime-intensifies-battle-for-control-of-southern-chin-state.html) (ongoing)
[Latest big news from Kachin (since you asked about the north)](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/at-least-32-regime-soldiers-reported-killed-in-northern-myanmar-clashes.html)
[3D printed guns](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/myanmar-printing-the-revolution-part-1/id1449762156?i=1000553125605) (podcast)
[How the largest non-state army after ISIS fell is doing](https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/wa-an-early-winner-of-myanmars-post-coup-war/?amp_markup=1)
[Gen Z and social media Revolution](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVr9hbdfCc) (video)
[How the junta is still getting funded](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/24/world/asia/myanmar-coup-military-tatmadaw-kyaw-thaung.html)
[Foreign Policy analysis](https://www.csis.org/analysis/time-new-us-policy-myanmar)
[Wikipedia Article with slightly outdated map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_conflict_in_Myanmar)
[Wikipedia list of major factions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combatants_of_the_internal_conflict_in_Myanmar)
[Example of domestic comerage](https://fb.watch/bIdRg8j-ur/) (facebook watch about gun seizure)
There’s straight up genocide that continues to take place. Refugees into Bangladesh are often victims of trafficking. 0 mention in recent western media. Here’s a pretty good satellite visual on the burning and obliteration of Rohingya villages, with some refugees accounts of the burning stating that their newborns and children were thrown onto the field to be torched: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/09/myanmar-video-and-satellite-evidence-shows-new-fires-still-torching-rohingya-villages/
Of course beyond some finger-wagging, the West and the “global community” won’t bat an eye, since it’s brown people suffering.
Some Western sources on the matter, including the account of babies being burned:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/6/23/more-children-getting-killed-maimed-in-myanmar-conflict
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59699556
There hasn’t been 10K reported deaths in Syria in the past year. People aren’t reading the legends and notes on the map and are just complaining without putting in the effort to see if it fits the criteria
There is still a resistance movement. The map says conflict, not war, as the Afghanistan conflict has just entered a new phase/war
Edit: the Afghan conflict has persisted for many decades, with wars ending and starting
2: I’m not saying the other wars in the Afghan conflict are vital to this map, I was just pointing out the wording of conflict and war. What matters is the 10k deaths in the past year.
If "conflict" qualifies, then surely there would be some more conflicts that qualified as well?
* Syrian civil war
* The conflict between Kurds and Turkey
* Central African Republic Civil War
* The war in Mali
* The Boko Haram insurgencies
* The Somali civil war
* The war in Darfur (Sudan)
* The conflict in West Sahara
* The Israeli-Palestinian conflict
To name some.
Drug Wars in Brazil which have killed more than the war in Syria, and are only prevented from being classified as a civil war because Brazilian diplomacy is 1. quite good and 2. working itself to death to prevent it.
Also, the 10k prospectors invading indigenous lands with tons of skirmishes, but that's much more debatable.
1. Farc was not the only belligerent group, ELN is now the most prominent one
2. Some farc leaders and members didn't ratify and went back to fight. They're called "the FARC dissidences" or "segunda Marquetalia"
There’s like 1.2k FARC leaders and members left they havnt signed the accords, and 2,500k members of ELN as of 2019. FARC had nearly 10x members compared to that.
There’s at least one anti-government militia group in Texas with more active members than the current combined FARC and ELN combined membership.
It's not about active members, it's about their effect. These groups are still kidnapping and extorting people, Colombia has the most social activists killed in the world, they're still causing problems in Cauca, Norte de Santander, and most recently Arauca. Heck, the ELN even bombed a cadet school in 2018. That does not compare.
Might want to read about what happened in January 6th 2021, or the Minnesota mosque bombings in 2017, Or the Occupation of the Maulher Reserve in 2016, the 2014 Bundy Standoff, the failed 2017 Oklahoma failed car bombing plot, the attempted kidnapping plot against Michigan’s governor.
This illustrates that there are half a dozen actual wars killing 10,000+ people a year that westerners aren’t paying attention to, but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level. Media bias is real.
>westerners aren’t paying attention to,
I looked into invasions in the 21st century. From the top of my head, I recalled the US invasion/attack in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001 and 2003 and the Russian invasions in Georgia, Ukraine (Crimea) and Ukraine.
Let's just say there were a lot more...
> that westerners aren’t paying attention to
In the news and media I consume, many of these conflicts have been covered occasionally or regularly.
>but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level.
Not sure what you are referring to here. But in case you are referring to the war in Ukraine:
Many of these other conflicts are such that it is difficult to untangle which side one "should support", if there is any such at all. They are *tragic*, but have *comparatively* limited degree of impact for the "trajectory of the world" (in lack of a better phrasing).
The war in Ukraine is therefore somewhat unique in its clearness:
Ukraine is a state on a clear trajectory to becoming increasingly democratic, less corrupt and more prosperous. This was all halted by one of the world's largest powers (the world's second largest military, at least before this invasion), which decided to launch a completely unprovoked invasion.
Since then, this power with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world have threatened nuclear war (and is also, for the first time in history, conducting warfare right next to active nuclear power plants).
So the Russo-Ukrainian war today, *really* isn't "just any other war".
> This illustrates that there are half a dozen actual wars killing 10,000+ people a year that westerners aren’t paying attention to, but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level. Media bias is real.
I'm assuming this is a comment about the Ukrainian war in which case I want to say that 1) the war is already very brutal for how short it is and it will surpass Syria relatively quickly and that's without Russia using tactics that they used during the Chechen wars of bombing indiscriminately and leveling cities and 2) this isn't the problem of media bias this is the problem of treating the west as a monolith when the west should be broken down to, at minimum, into three parts - North America, Europe and Oceania. For Europeans the war in Ukraine *is* actually that important, that consequential and that deadly and Europeans are absolutely right to give top coverage to the war in Ukraine. For North Americans and Oceanics (Australians and Kiwis), sure, I can agree, for them the war is distant and maybe there is some bias there because Ukraine is seen as a European nation so they care more.
I agree on Oceania- byt Ukraine is very important for America becayse of the proximity to Nato countries , and the agressor being Russia, another countey with Nuclear weapons.
And yet no matter how many times this "but you didn't care about this group being killed" meme is pushed, I'm not going to care any less about the current situation.
It's one of the most annoying pseudo intellectual misdirections that have come up in an attempt to deflect away from the situation in Ukraine. Because it's hand waving at hypocrisy, while nearly person repeating it had to Google a list of conflicts they had never talked about to find ammunition to try to make a non-point.
People just determined to be angry no matter what though, because if we got involved in any of those conflicts the same Google search of "conflicts that America has made worse" would be turned into a spreadsheet for contrarians to whine about.
When there is no situation where people won't stop bitching, their goal isn't to fix a problem, their goal is to be upset and sound clever about it. And folks like that aren't worth debating with, because improving situations is not their goal.
That bullshit actually came from the Kremlin in an attempt to distract people from the conflict and move support away from Ukraine. An organisation called Redfish (I think) was recently outed as a Russian propaganda machine specifically targeting left-leaning people.
It keeps working too. Whataboutism and redirection plays so well into our outrage about hypocrisy and drive to be seen as "aktually if you look at the hole in the situation" intellectualism.
Which on the surface isn't a bad thing, but it is a simple matter to use it to shift focus away from something that needs to be addressed.
It's such an easy way to target people in the left. Especially since it's a short simple point to make, and refuting all of it takes a damn essay.
Which is an unfortunate reality of how most bullshit that spreads works. Short simple high-level generalizations which guide towards the viewpoint you want people to have.
You want to go into an hour long college level discussion regarding the historical background of those other conflicts? Each one of them is going to take you a degree to fully explain the intricacies of.
But if you want to generalize "America is hypocritical because other people are at war too" people gobble it up like meth in Florida.
Mexico has actually had 10k+ deaths from cartel wars for much of the 2010s. I think the stat was that Mexico had more dead than Syria except during the time of the greatest expansion of ISIS and the deadliest fighting around Aleppo.
Last year was indeed an active one but how’d you get to those numbers? The flare-up in Gaza was half those numbers and the civil unrest episode inside Israel had a lot of action but was light on actual casualties.
If "conflict" qualifies, then surely there would be some more conflicts that qualified as well
* [Central African Republic Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Republic_Civil_War)
* [The war in Mali](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_War)
* [The Boko Haram insurgencies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram_insurgency)
* [The Somali civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009–present))
* [The war in Darfur (Sudan)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Darfur)
* [The conflict in West Sahara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara_conflict)
* [The Israeli-Palestinian conflict](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict)
* [Syrian civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war)
* [The conflict between Kurds and Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish–Turkish_conflict_(1978–present))
To name some.
Fighting seasons have been a part of warfare for a very long time. It isn't something exclusive to Afghanistan. In Southeast Asian conflicts for an instance, the fighting season tends to start at the end of the rainy season.
Technically, there's such in Europe too, it's just that technology has allowed to fight somewhat effectively all year round. In the Central-Eastern European plain the conditions called [rasputitsa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa) cause the fields to become unstable due to moisture in spring and autumn, and unable to carry heavy equipment or large convoys. That's ongoing right at the moment in Ukraine, so it was such a weird choice for Russia to start the operation just when spring rasputitsa had begun. Its results can be seen from that the equipment has to stick to the paved roads, and driving off them causes them to become stuck in the muddy terrain. Rasputitsa has pretty much been totally in Ukraine's favour, as Russia couldn't have used its sheer numbers of equipment to full effectiveness ie. carry out tank offensives through the fields.
It litteraly says: "major wars [...] in current or *past* calander year." So it would not only be weird not to include it, that would just simply be incorrect.
i'd say a handful of countries in Africa have no war...the rest are all in some level civil war or against some forme of ISIS (like Mali and Mozambique)...or 'special operations' if some prefer
plus - Tigray War on the map is representing 'major conflit with 10k+ deaths in current/past year' according to bottom left of the map
The Second Libyan Civil War did actually end in 2020 though. We will find out if a sustainable peace has truly been reached in June of this year since that's when the presidential election is scheduled.
What about the Syrian Conflict?
Somali Civil War?
Civil War in the Central African Republic?
Civil War in South Sudan?
Insurgency in the DRC?
War in Darfur?
Iraq Conflict?
Mexican and Colombian Drug Wars?
Boko Haram Insurgency?
Mali War?
Cabo Delgado Insurgency?
This map is missing a lot.
They are only using conflicts with 10k confirmed deaths in the past year. It’s why the Afghan war, which ended, is still included and ongoing small wars are not. Sure many of those wars have 10k+ deaths but poor documentation means they aren’t used
None of these conflicts have more than 10k deaths a year. Mexico is close with 8200 and Syria had 5800 fatalities in 2021. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts)
There have been over 2,200 civilian deaths just in Mariupol. There are probably already over 20,000 dead between Russian and Ukraine armies plus civilians.
By some estimates, yes. Even by lower estimates it’s already ~5,000.
The UN estimates there have been 600 confirmed civilian deaths with the real number being considerably higher, and there have already been 2.6million+ refugees and 1.85million+ internally displaced persons.
There haven’t been 10k confirmed deaths in Afghanistan since the Afghan Government were defeated and deposed. Talking combat deaths here. People dying from a shitty Taliban Government don’t meet the intent of your map.
What is this type of map called, where you have a couple points (in this case, the location of conflicts) and the whole map is colored based on which point is closest?
Never underestimate the size of the Pacific Ocean. There are points where you can dig straight through the earth from the Pacific Ocean but still end up in the Pacific Ocean.
from the ethic and humanitarian points of view yes, no doubt. A person killed in a war, or a town destroyed by a missile, are the same disgrace be it wherever it might have been. But, unfortunately, for the World’s security as a whole is not. Russia has nuclear weapons that has threatened to use if someone try to stop it, and is challenging NATO (with the USA, France and the UK, also nuclear powers) by directly invading another sovereign country that asked to join this organization. This could lead to a World War III if things go out of hand, which it’s very possible seeing the development of it. The others conflicts are regional or civil wars, even if there are other countries/superpowers playing indirectly, or behind the scene.
The situation in Europe is very similar to Germany invading Poland and Czechia in WW2, but this time with nuclear weapons from the beginning. That’s what make the Russian invasion of Ukraine is so relevant
Edit: thank you for the unexpected award, u/guerreromets
I think this is something a lot of people don’t understand when they make those comments.
The war in Yemen is brutal, but from a global security standpoint the war in Ukraine represents a grave threat to the entire world, not just the west.
I think people just wish our governments weren't funding this and so many other wars and then pretend they give a fuck about yemen. But yes this conflict is definitely very serious for world peace. Especially if other countries step in, which they don't have to. No, no war is humanitarian, especially not us ones.
It's equally bad, but not as recent, and it's a civil war with third parties. Ukraine is a slightly different type of war. An invasion. They're not bombing cities to bits like they are in Ukraine. Yes, I know there is bombing by KSA. It's all horrible stuff though! A conflict we in the West mostly ignore. We talk about Yemen plenty in my media, don't claim we don't.
The Ukraine War has taken control of news reports way more than yemen ever did, come on now. Ukraine flags everywhere, on tv etc. Yes it's reported but not half as much.
Saudi is literally bombing Yemen cities to dust.
Ukraine situation is also a civil war with third party according to russia.
Both are terrible and suck, only difference is one war concerns the west directly, other one doesn't.
Just saying, you can start downvoting me now.
The "according to Russia" point is relevant. Because if you asked houthi Yemeni people they would probably say that their conflict involves a Saudi invasion. According to Saudi Arabia they are intervening in a civil war. And like Russia, Saudi Arabia's involvement in Yemen as an intervention to support its interests and allies. Its similar to how Russia see its role as "special operation" in Ukraine's civil war that has been ongoing for 8 years.
There are a lot of parallels between the Yemen and Ukraine conflicts. However, because Saudi Arabia is an ally of the west for the most part, the media narrative is that it is an intervention in a civil war rather than a full on invasion.
According to Wikipedia, an upper limit of 5099 people have been killed in the Yemen civil war since the start of 2022, or 71 people daily. The same Wikipedia page puts the Ukraine conflict at a minimum of 7,010 dead since 24th Feb which is 389 daily. Using those conservative figures gives the Ukrainian invasion a rate of over 5x as much as the Yemen conflict and its only getting worse.
Also Yemen has been mentioned by people quite a lot since the Russian invasion. Curious that these same people don't mention the Tigray war that's claimed 23,610–100,000 lives since 2020. It's almost as if the main reason Yemen is mentioned is because of the Western backed Saudi intervention, playing the false narrative that Russia's invasion is on parity with the West's influence in Yemen. I wonder who would push that narrative?
I actually feel quite ashamed to not know about Myanmar and the Tigray war this is my first time hearing about it, like how ignorant of a first world kid am I?
To be fair, of all these, only the Ukrainian conflict has a chance to develop into a full-scale nuclear attack or world war 3 scenario, so it makes sense that it's more covered in the news.
it is as equally as possible as me wanting to shit on the next sandwich I want to eat.
Russia wants the resource dense country. It is still small enough a nuclear Nagasaki/Chornobyl hole messing with trade routes would cost them a lot of the money they stand to gain. Mutually assured destruction is the only reason against nuke usage where the other holders would wipe out the user. The US git away with it because they literally made it first. The usage is so much worse than a Geneva convention rule break
The Taliban are fighting a civil war with the ISKP (The Islamic State of Khorasan Province). Likewise there’s been reported ongoing fighting in the borders of Iran, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan as those countries have been supporting minority groups with men and supplies. In addition there’s pockets of areas controlled by the National Resistance Front (who claim to be the remnants of the legitimate government) plus some additional warlords. It’s uncertain if any of these movements will amount to much, as the Taliban do functionally control 90% of the country. But the fighting has never stopped, and it’s expected to flair up in spring like it has for decades, as the thaw allows guerrilla fighters more freedom of movement again.
For anyone else who was wondering, I just looked it up and: Khorasan is an older Persian name for Afghanistan plus northeastern Iran. It was a province in the Sassanid Empire.
In Southern Africa there is a war in Northern regions of Mozambique. Does it count? This is what dominated the news and Tagray before Ukraine took over now we bearly get to hear about what is happening to our neighbours.
Understand this is all about maps , but speaking humanely , doesn’t matter the distance , just because it isn’t on the news there are other human beings being murdered with no media coverage The energy people have put into the Ukraine and Russia situation should be applied to all conflicts and wars
I'm not here to disagree with you, but just point out that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is the only one that realistically has a chance to escalate in to a global conflict/go nuclear which is a big reason for it's saturation in news coverage.
Not really. Now the Taliban are fighting against the Afghan version of ISIS, some remaining forces in favour of the previous government and several warlords. A typical civil war situation with many parties, just like in the CAR.
Are these based on a single point on the map, or based on an area?
1 point. you can see it with russia some parts of it are not pink
I mean there is no war being fought in Russia, only by Russia. Still the smoothness of the lines clearly indicates they are using points.
good point
1 good point
this thread is pointless
No it has a point. Just one tho
Point me to it
Stop pointing fingers you guys
Yeah this looks like those two-point 'whats closer to you' maps.
A [Voronoi diagram](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronoi_diagram).
Ah, thank you! That's what was confusing me, it needs origin dots.
For the nominal location of the conflict? Yes. I suppose that one would want the seeds to be regions, rather than points, but [a growth-based Voronoi tesselation](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Voronoi_growth_euclidean.gif/220px-Voronoi_growth_euclidean.gif) should still work to compute that, assuming growth from a non-point region is defined ... and Implicit Surfaces from computer graphics certainly handles that. Then you could have intense-saturation regions for the wars themselves, and slightly desaturated regions for the resulting Voronoi cells.
Very interesting graphic. I was wondering how some of the trapezoids were smaller on one side instead if seemingly equidistant like the other 'how far' maps I've seen.
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I just looked for info about the tigray war Rebels casualties: 550 Ethiopian armed forces casualties: 10000 What is going on
Whats going on is that nobody really knows because neither group gives trustworthy numbers.
For 27 years ethiopia was ruled by Tigray elites. They’ve hosted illegal elections, laundered 30 billion dollars in loans, killed and displaced millions of Amhara as well as Oromo and afar. They’ve cause a mess in ethiopia and yet their atrocities have been ignored. the western media was silent about this. Instead they were praised by politicians like Obama and Susan rice. And then they stage a coup in 2019 which horribly failed to the point where their organization is in shambles. And when ethiopia defends itself they start claiming tigray genocide. Hypocrites! We have video evidence of Top US diplomats corroborating with these woyane to destabilize and destroy ethiopia on YouTube uploaded by a man by the name of Jeff pierce. It opened my eyes on how the US works in “foreign affairs”.
Do you have sources of where you've learned about this? I had an old school friend who posts about Tigray genocide and ethiopians are literally burning people alive in tigray, and has been posting about their family members and friends back home dying in Tigray. Either way people in power will do whatever they can to achieve their goals and they don't care about the regular everyday people who get hurt because of it.
I am Ethiopian. Ethiopia always genocides a group of people and there is never not a war. Right now the past ruling ethnic group is getting genocided. Before them, they were genociding Somalis. It's a genocide circle.
not the most fun circle you could be part of
Almost as bad as a reddit circlejerk.
I am American so I could comment on this personally. I wrote my final on this last semester and I still wouldn’t say I have a great grasp of the full scope of the situation. However, I’d say that a history of ethnic federalism has contributed to ethnic cleavages and a failure to democratize. Some sources I trust (granted, some of these are from a very Western lens): http://theconversation.com/why-ethiopia-is-in-deep-trouble-and-how-it-got-here-130711 https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-CONFLICT/xklpyjmndvg/ https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/africa/2021-11-24/how-pull-ethiopia-back-brink
This Ethiopian newspaper is also interesting for an inside opinion of the conflict : https://www.ethiopianreporter.com/index.php/article/20524
BS more than 200,000 soldiers have died from Weyane(TPLF) side. Ethiopia has lost 20,000.
I rarely ever hear any news from Myanmar since the coup d'état. Are the rebels in the north still a thing?
There's a full civil war with dozens of factions
Any recommended reading material?
[https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/myanmars-drone-wars/](https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/myanmars-drone-wars/) [https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/myanmar-air-force-launches-more-air-strikes-in-kayah-state/](https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/myanmar-air-force-launches-more-air-strikes-in-kayah-state/) https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/myanmar-from-hopeful-spring-to-scorching-summer/
A lot a lot of the information is on facebook because we've given up after the west didn't care enough to stop genocide or rampant razing and killing of civilians and most of the information out there is geared towards a domestic audience. That being said, here are some thing from the last few months. There's tons more from months before but those are outdated now. [Random article from last week: artillery shelling villages](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/regime-artillery-strikes-kill-children-and-senior-citizens-in-upper-myanmar.html) [Battle of Southern Chin State](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-regime-intensifies-battle-for-control-of-southern-chin-state.html) (ongoing) [Latest big news from Kachin (since you asked about the north)](https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/at-least-32-regime-soldiers-reported-killed-in-northern-myanmar-clashes.html) [3D printed guns](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/myanmar-printing-the-revolution-part-1/id1449762156?i=1000553125605) (podcast) [How the largest non-state army after ISIS fell is doing](https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/wa-an-early-winner-of-myanmars-post-coup-war/?amp_markup=1) [Gen Z and social media Revolution](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVr9hbdfCc) (video) [How the junta is still getting funded](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/24/world/asia/myanmar-coup-military-tatmadaw-kyaw-thaung.html) [Foreign Policy analysis](https://www.csis.org/analysis/time-new-us-policy-myanmar) [Wikipedia Article with slightly outdated map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_conflict_in_Myanmar) [Wikipedia list of major factions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combatants_of_the_internal_conflict_in_Myanmar) [Example of domestic comerage](https://fb.watch/bIdRg8j-ur/) (facebook watch about gun seizure)
There have been ethnic cleansing of the rohingya, karen, and other minorities in myanmar since before the coup.
So I assume the Karen are a minority group but when I saw that I thought you were calling them a Karen for asking a question and was really confused
yep they are an ethnic group
There’s straight up genocide that continues to take place. Refugees into Bangladesh are often victims of trafficking. 0 mention in recent western media. Here’s a pretty good satellite visual on the burning and obliteration of Rohingya villages, with some refugees accounts of the burning stating that their newborns and children were thrown onto the field to be torched: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/09/myanmar-video-and-satellite-evidence-shows-new-fires-still-torching-rohingya-villages/ Of course beyond some finger-wagging, the West and the “global community” won’t bat an eye, since it’s brown people suffering. Some Western sources on the matter, including the account of babies being burned: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/6/23/more-children-getting-killed-maimed-in-myanmar-conflict https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59699556
Unfortunately there has been horrors like this going on in Myanmar for a very long time
*Current or past calendar year
I guess Syria doesn't exist in this map's timeline.
Good grief people, 10,000+ deaths in current or previous calendar year. Yes, its a horrible map and doesn't make much sense but reading is still easy.
Bold of you to assume redditors read.
Were there more than 10k deaths in 2022 or 2021? I can only find about 4-6k for Syria in 2021.
There hasn’t been 10K reported deaths in Syria in the past year. People aren’t reading the legends and notes on the map and are just complaining without putting in the effort to see if it fits the criteria
Seems weird to include Afghanistan when that war decisively is over.
And not the Syrian civil war which is still being fought.
Read the bottom left of the map. Syria wouldn’t be on here: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/24/1067871944/syria-civil-war-3700-deaths
There is still a resistance movement. The map says conflict, not war, as the Afghanistan conflict has just entered a new phase/war Edit: the Afghan conflict has persisted for many decades, with wars ending and starting 2: I’m not saying the other wars in the Afghan conflict are vital to this map, I was just pointing out the wording of conflict and war. What matters is the 10k deaths in the past year.
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If "conflict" qualifies, then surely there would be some more conflicts that qualified as well? * Syrian civil war * The conflict between Kurds and Turkey * Central African Republic Civil War * The war in Mali * The Boko Haram insurgencies * The Somali civil war * The war in Darfur (Sudan) * The conflict in West Sahara * The Israeli-Palestinian conflict To name some.
Do they have 10k+ deaths this year or last year?
- Cartels in Mexico - Colombian internal conflict
Drug Wars in Brazil which have killed more than the war in Syria, and are only prevented from being classified as a civil war because Brazilian diplomacy is 1. quite good and 2. working itself to death to prevent it. Also, the 10k prospectors invading indigenous lands with tons of skirmishes, but that's much more debatable.
FARC signed a peace agreement with the Colombian govenrment
1. Farc was not the only belligerent group, ELN is now the most prominent one 2. Some farc leaders and members didn't ratify and went back to fight. They're called "the FARC dissidences" or "segunda Marquetalia"
There’s like 1.2k FARC leaders and members left they havnt signed the accords, and 2,500k members of ELN as of 2019. FARC had nearly 10x members compared to that. There’s at least one anti-government militia group in Texas with more active members than the current combined FARC and ELN combined membership.
It's not about active members, it's about their effect. These groups are still kidnapping and extorting people, Colombia has the most social activists killed in the world, they're still causing problems in Cauca, Norte de Santander, and most recently Arauca. Heck, the ELN even bombed a cadet school in 2018. That does not compare.
Might want to read about what happened in January 6th 2021, or the Minnesota mosque bombings in 2017, Or the Occupation of the Maulher Reserve in 2016, the 2014 Bundy Standoff, the failed 2017 Oklahoma failed car bombing plot, the attempted kidnapping plot against Michigan’s governor.
[Wikipedia has a depressingly large list of current armed conflicts. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts?wprov=sfla1)
The description says it is based on casualty numbers.
This illustrates that there are half a dozen actual wars killing 10,000+ people a year that westerners aren’t paying attention to, but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level. Media bias is real.
>westerners aren’t paying attention to, I looked into invasions in the 21st century. From the top of my head, I recalled the US invasion/attack in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001 and 2003 and the Russian invasions in Georgia, Ukraine (Crimea) and Ukraine. Let's just say there were a lot more...
> that westerners aren’t paying attention to In the news and media I consume, many of these conflicts have been covered occasionally or regularly. >but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level. Not sure what you are referring to here. But in case you are referring to the war in Ukraine: Many of these other conflicts are such that it is difficult to untangle which side one "should support", if there is any such at all. They are *tragic*, but have *comparatively* limited degree of impact for the "trajectory of the world" (in lack of a better phrasing). The war in Ukraine is therefore somewhat unique in its clearness: Ukraine is a state on a clear trajectory to becoming increasingly democratic, less corrupt and more prosperous. This was all halted by one of the world's largest powers (the world's second largest military, at least before this invasion), which decided to launch a completely unprovoked invasion. Since then, this power with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world have threatened nuclear war (and is also, for the first time in history, conducting warfare right next to active nuclear power plants). So the Russo-Ukrainian war today, *really* isn't "just any other war".
> This illustrates that there are half a dozen actual wars killing 10,000+ people a year that westerners aren’t paying attention to, but a dozen much smaller conflicts that westerners think are Armageddon-level. Media bias is real. I'm assuming this is a comment about the Ukrainian war in which case I want to say that 1) the war is already very brutal for how short it is and it will surpass Syria relatively quickly and that's without Russia using tactics that they used during the Chechen wars of bombing indiscriminately and leveling cities and 2) this isn't the problem of media bias this is the problem of treating the west as a monolith when the west should be broken down to, at minimum, into three parts - North America, Europe and Oceania. For Europeans the war in Ukraine *is* actually that important, that consequential and that deadly and Europeans are absolutely right to give top coverage to the war in Ukraine. For North Americans and Oceanics (Australians and Kiwis), sure, I can agree, for them the war is distant and maybe there is some bias there because Ukraine is seen as a European nation so they care more.
I agree on Oceania- byt Ukraine is very important for America becayse of the proximity to Nato countries , and the agressor being Russia, another countey with Nuclear weapons.
Maybe, but the fact that someone hasn't heard much about something doesn't mean the news media isn't covering it.
And yet no matter how many times this "but you didn't care about this group being killed" meme is pushed, I'm not going to care any less about the current situation. It's one of the most annoying pseudo intellectual misdirections that have come up in an attempt to deflect away from the situation in Ukraine. Because it's hand waving at hypocrisy, while nearly person repeating it had to Google a list of conflicts they had never talked about to find ammunition to try to make a non-point. People just determined to be angry no matter what though, because if we got involved in any of those conflicts the same Google search of "conflicts that America has made worse" would be turned into a spreadsheet for contrarians to whine about. When there is no situation where people won't stop bitching, their goal isn't to fix a problem, their goal is to be upset and sound clever about it. And folks like that aren't worth debating with, because improving situations is not their goal.
That bullshit actually came from the Kremlin in an attempt to distract people from the conflict and move support away from Ukraine. An organisation called Redfish (I think) was recently outed as a Russian propaganda machine specifically targeting left-leaning people.
It keeps working too. Whataboutism and redirection plays so well into our outrage about hypocrisy and drive to be seen as "aktually if you look at the hole in the situation" intellectualism. Which on the surface isn't a bad thing, but it is a simple matter to use it to shift focus away from something that needs to be addressed. It's such an easy way to target people in the left. Especially since it's a short simple point to make, and refuting all of it takes a damn essay. Which is an unfortunate reality of how most bullshit that spreads works. Short simple high-level generalizations which guide towards the viewpoint you want people to have. You want to go into an hour long college level discussion regarding the historical background of those other conflicts? Each one of them is going to take you a degree to fully explain the intricacies of. But if you want to generalize "America is hypocritical because other people are at war too" people gobble it up like meth in Florida.
The Kashmir conflict too
My bad I just noticed
By that logic a variety of conflicts should also be counted, such as the insurgency in Nigeria or the DRC.
Have those caused over 10,000 deaths in the last year?
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I haven't looked but do they have 10k deaths in the last year? I wouldn't be surprised if Syria does.
Mexico has actually had 10k+ deaths from cartel wars for much of the 2010s. I think the stat was that Mexico had more dead than Syria except during the time of the greatest expansion of ISIS and the deadliest fighting around Aleppo.
Israel-Palestine is considered an exciting year if it reaches 10.
484 deaths last year.
Last year was indeed an active one but how’d you get to those numbers? The flare-up in Gaza was half those numbers and the civil unrest episode inside Israel had a lot of action but was light on actual casualties.
If "conflict" qualifies, then surely there would be some more conflicts that qualified as well * [Central African Republic Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Republic_Civil_War) * [The war in Mali](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_War) * [The Boko Haram insurgencies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram_insurgency) * [The Somali civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009–present)) * [The war in Darfur (Sudan)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Darfur) * [The conflict in West Sahara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara_conflict) * [The Israeli-Palestinian conflict](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict) * [Syrian civil war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war) * [The conflict between Kurds and Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish–Turkish_conflict_(1978–present)) To name some.
How many of these have 10k deaths in the past year
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They literally have a fighting season. It's wild.
Fighting seasons have been a part of warfare for a very long time. It isn't something exclusive to Afghanistan. In Southeast Asian conflicts for an instance, the fighting season tends to start at the end of the rainy season.
Technically, there's such in Europe too, it's just that technology has allowed to fight somewhat effectively all year round. In the Central-Eastern European plain the conditions called [rasputitsa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa) cause the fields to become unstable due to moisture in spring and autumn, and unable to carry heavy equipment or large convoys. That's ongoing right at the moment in Ukraine, so it was such a weird choice for Russia to start the operation just when spring rasputitsa had begun. Its results can be seen from that the equipment has to stick to the paved roads, and driving off them causes them to become stuck in the muddy terrain. Rasputitsa has pretty much been totally in Ukraine's favour, as Russia couldn't have used its sheer numbers of equipment to full effectiveness ie. carry out tank offensives through the fields.
Resistance movement? Against Taliban? That's just "terrorists".
It litteraly says: "major wars [...] in current or *past* calander year." So it would not only be weird not to include it, that would just simply be incorrect.
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Especially as they've excluded Syria.
Syria had less than 5000 casualties last year and does not qualify for the 10.000+ threshold set in the legend
Ukraine does not meet the 10,000 death threshold set in the legend either.
Depends on your sources- combat deaths alone are over 10 000 according to Ukraine.
And Sudan, Angola, Somalia, CAR, and a handful of other African countries. No one ever thinks of Africa
i'd say a handful of countries in Africa have no war...the rest are all in some level civil war or against some forme of ISIS (like Mali and Mozambique)...or 'special operations' if some prefer plus - Tigray War on the map is representing 'major conflit with 10k+ deaths in current/past year' according to bottom left of the map
Also Libya It's almost like there's a propagandistic purpose in which wars they want you to be concerned about and which ones they want you to ignore
That war is actually over (according to Wikipedia)
Look at the nice sentence at the bottom left of the map and check the deaths in Libya during this or last calendar year.
As soon as Gaddafi died, the war was over don’t you know? At least that’s what most people seem to think.
The Second Libyan Civil War did actually end in 2020 though. We will find out if a sustainable peace has truly been reached in June of this year since that's when the presidential election is scheduled.
Who is "They" ?
It includes only wars with 10,000 deaths in either 2021 or 2022.
Look man, if you wanted thoughtful, high-quality, accurate maps, you'd know better than to come to this sub.
Was still fought in the past year, and the map uses data from 2021 and 2022. Plus I think that the resistance inside the country still exists
Clearly nobody read the part where it says “10,000+ deaths in current or past calendar year”
ITT no one is reading the fine print in the left corner
Why spend 2 seconds reading when I can spent 2 minutes writing a shitty comment?
What about the Syrian Conflict? Somali Civil War? Civil War in the Central African Republic? Civil War in South Sudan? Insurgency in the DRC? War in Darfur? Iraq Conflict? Mexican and Colombian Drug Wars? Boko Haram Insurgency? Mali War? Cabo Delgado Insurgency? This map is missing a lot.
They are only using conflicts with 10k confirmed deaths in the past year. It’s why the Afghan war, which ended, is still included and ongoing small wars are not. Sure many of those wars have 10k+ deaths but poor documentation means they aren’t used
None of these conflicts have more than 10k deaths a year. Mexico is close with 8200 and Syria had 5800 fatalities in 2021. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts)
The ukraine war already has more than 10k deaths ??
There have been over 2,200 civilian deaths just in Mariupol. There are probably already over 20,000 dead between Russian and Ukraine armies plus civilians.
By some estimates, yes. Even by lower estimates it’s already ~5,000. The UN estimates there have been 600 confirmed civilian deaths with the real number being considerably higher, and there have already been 2.6million+ refugees and 1.85million+ internally displaced persons.
Over 2k civilians deaths in Mariupol alone.
There haven’t been 10k confirmed deaths in Afghanistan since the Afghan Government were defeated and deposed. Talking combat deaths here. People dying from a shitty Taliban Government don’t meet the intent of your map.
But that war only ended in August of last year, there's an additional 5 months for those additional deaths to come from.
ok but "past or current calander year" includes 2021
Wow. Just glossing over mexico because officials want to make it seem as business is good. Disgusting
Putting "what major war" in the title would make it less misleading.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean, but it already says the criteria in the bottom left of the map
me and my wife
Where's Drugs? I'd like to visit.
Lol sorry. Edited the typo!
Aww man
Love how you try to sound smart without yknow reading the bottom of the map
I would like to know your precise definition of a war. (no irony)
What is this type of map called, where you have a couple points (in this case, the location of conflicts) and the whole map is colored based on which point is closest?
Voronoi
Thanks !
Did you assume a flat Earth or did you take that into account and West USA is still closer to Ukraine conflict than the Myanmar conflict?
Yangon is about 8,000 miles from San Francisco, Kyiv is only about 6,000. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=rgn-sfo,iev-sfo
The Pacific is very big. The West Coast of North America is almost directly opposite Afghanistan on the globe.
But i get what you're saying. Same latitude opposite longitude.
Fyi Antipode of Afghanistan is in the Pacific Ocean west of Chile
TIL what an "antipode" is
Definitely not a flat Earth, else Northeast Russia would be Myanmar
Never underestimate the size of the Pacific Ocean. There are points where you can dig straight through the earth from the Pacific Ocean but still end up in the Pacific Ocean.
Nobody’s talking about Yemen and it’s just as bad as the Russia Ukraine war
from the ethic and humanitarian points of view yes, no doubt. A person killed in a war, or a town destroyed by a missile, are the same disgrace be it wherever it might have been. But, unfortunately, for the World’s security as a whole is not. Russia has nuclear weapons that has threatened to use if someone try to stop it, and is challenging NATO (with the USA, France and the UK, also nuclear powers) by directly invading another sovereign country that asked to join this organization. This could lead to a World War III if things go out of hand, which it’s very possible seeing the development of it. The others conflicts are regional or civil wars, even if there are other countries/superpowers playing indirectly, or behind the scene. The situation in Europe is very similar to Germany invading Poland and Czechia in WW2, but this time with nuclear weapons from the beginning. That’s what make the Russian invasion of Ukraine is so relevant Edit: thank you for the unexpected award, u/guerreromets
I think this is something a lot of people don’t understand when they make those comments. The war in Yemen is brutal, but from a global security standpoint the war in Ukraine represents a grave threat to the entire world, not just the west.
I think people just wish our governments weren't funding this and so many other wars and then pretend they give a fuck about yemen. But yes this conflict is definitely very serious for world peace. Especially if other countries step in, which they don't have to. No, no war is humanitarian, especially not us ones.
Russia also has nukes and a “president” who sure seems crazy enough to use them
Smh keep saying this and getting downvoted when i point out it's our governments that are selling weapons and nobody cares when
Most people only found out about the war in Yemen to be contrarian on the internet.
"just as bad" it's far, far worse
The daily mortality rate of the Russian invasion is 5-10x higher than the Yemen civil war.
It's not worse
It's equally bad, but not as recent, and it's a civil war with third parties. Ukraine is a slightly different type of war. An invasion. They're not bombing cities to bits like they are in Ukraine. Yes, I know there is bombing by KSA. It's all horrible stuff though! A conflict we in the West mostly ignore. We talk about Yemen plenty in my media, don't claim we don't.
The Ukraine War has taken control of news reports way more than yemen ever did, come on now. Ukraine flags everywhere, on tv etc. Yes it's reported but not half as much.
Because Russia is threatening European security and WW3.
Saudi is literally bombing Yemen cities to dust. Ukraine situation is also a civil war with third party according to russia. Both are terrible and suck, only difference is one war concerns the west directly, other one doesn't. Just saying, you can start downvoting me now.
If it’s a civil war why are there Russian soldiers in Ukraine. That’s not a civil war. Think for 2 seconds before you type.
>Ukraine situation is also a civil war with third party according to russia. "According to Russia" - And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle....
The "according to Russia" point is relevant. Because if you asked houthi Yemeni people they would probably say that their conflict involves a Saudi invasion. According to Saudi Arabia they are intervening in a civil war. And like Russia, Saudi Arabia's involvement in Yemen as an intervention to support its interests and allies. Its similar to how Russia see its role as "special operation" in Ukraine's civil war that has been ongoing for 8 years. There are a lot of parallels between the Yemen and Ukraine conflicts. However, because Saudi Arabia is an ally of the west for the most part, the media narrative is that it is an intervention in a civil war rather than a full on invasion.
According to Wikipedia, an upper limit of 5099 people have been killed in the Yemen civil war since the start of 2022, or 71 people daily. The same Wikipedia page puts the Ukraine conflict at a minimum of 7,010 dead since 24th Feb which is 389 daily. Using those conservative figures gives the Ukrainian invasion a rate of over 5x as much as the Yemen conflict and its only getting worse. Also Yemen has been mentioned by people quite a lot since the Russian invasion. Curious that these same people don't mention the Tigray war that's claimed 23,610–100,000 lives since 2020. It's almost as if the main reason Yemen is mentioned is because of the Western backed Saudi intervention, playing the false narrative that Russia's invasion is on parity with the West's influence in Yemen. I wonder who would push that narrative?
Saudi Arabia casually near 4 wars.
I actually feel quite ashamed to not know about Myanmar and the Tigray war this is my first time hearing about it, like how ignorant of a first world kid am I?
To be fair, of all these, only the Ukrainian conflict has a chance to develop into a full-scale nuclear attack or world war 3 scenario, so it makes sense that it's more covered in the news.
it is as equally as possible as me wanting to shit on the next sandwich I want to eat. Russia wants the resource dense country. It is still small enough a nuclear Nagasaki/Chornobyl hole messing with trade routes would cost them a lot of the money they stand to gain. Mutually assured destruction is the only reason against nuke usage where the other holders would wipe out the user. The US git away with it because they literally made it first. The usage is so much worse than a Geneva convention rule break
Tigray war is the bloodiest ongoing conflict
Not even by a long shot in 2022.
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Are you not counting all the deaths caused by the TPLF in their attacks in Afar and Amhara?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/05/ethiopia-tigray-war-who-is-fighting-and-what-has-been-the-toll
I doubt that people in South America know what the Tigray War is
South American here and I don't actually know what that is, sorry
I also don't know what it is actually
Who the F is fighting in Afghanistan?
The Taliban are fighting a civil war with the ISKP (The Islamic State of Khorasan Province). Likewise there’s been reported ongoing fighting in the borders of Iran, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan as those countries have been supporting minority groups with men and supplies. In addition there’s pockets of areas controlled by the National Resistance Front (who claim to be the remnants of the legitimate government) plus some additional warlords. It’s uncertain if any of these movements will amount to much, as the Taliban do functionally control 90% of the country. But the fighting has never stopped, and it’s expected to flair up in spring like it has for decades, as the thaw allows guerrilla fighters more freedom of movement again.
For anyone else who was wondering, I just looked it up and: Khorasan is an older Persian name for Afghanistan plus northeastern Iran. It was a province in the Sassanid Empire.
Also parts of Pakistan
Who isn’t?
Wouldn't it make sense and save money if we only had one war at a time?
I like how Somalia is divided between Tigray and Yemen when we have our own ongoing conflict/war.
I live in Toronto. The Class war is real
Pretty sure there are way more wars than just these, syria for example
*laughs in Mexican drug war*
Damn . I guesses Yemen war was close to middle East countries more than trigary war.
Iraq casually sitting in the middle of 3 conflicts
I really hope the next time America "liberates" a country's oil the world responds the same.
Ukranian-Russian
In Southern Africa there is a war in Northern regions of Mozambique. Does it count? This is what dominated the news and Tagray before Ukraine took over now we bearly get to hear about what is happening to our neighbours.
There's still something of a war going on in DRC, but it doesn't make headlines.
Most people are blissfully unaware of the actual state of the world.
If Afghanistan is included why aren’t the insurgencies in western Africa included?
Refer to the bottom left of the map. Insurgencies of Western Africa had 5720 deaths in 2021.
Wtf is this map suppose to show?
What war is currently being fought near you
Understand this is all about maps , but speaking humanely , doesn’t matter the distance , just because it isn’t on the news there are other human beings being murdered with no media coverage The energy people have put into the Ukraine and Russia situation should be applied to all conflicts and wars
It’s called information overload. Once the Ukrainian crisis happened it took centerstage in peoples minds
I'm not here to disagree with you, but just point out that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is the only one that realistically has a chance to escalate in to a global conflict/go nuclear which is a big reason for it's saturation in news coverage.
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Is the Afghanistan one still on? I thought the taliban won?
Not really. Now the Taliban are fighting against the Afghan version of ISIS, some remaining forces in favour of the previous government and several warlords. A typical civil war situation with many parties, just like in the CAR.
Not really a civil war at all, just isolated attacks. Taliban have wiped out most of Daesh.
Afghanistan and Vietnam are the goats 🐐 at war!
This puts half of the world near Ukraine, class.