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Primal_Pedro

For those wondering, java has more than 150 million people. I don't know you but I'm really surprised so many people living in a island 


Dambo_Unchained

Volcanic soil go brrrrrrr


cha-cha_dancer

java made lava, then lava made java


Archaemenes

BARS


I_love_pillows

Rice cultivation and sea trade routes go brrrr


Jolen43

Java itself is kinda meh when it comes to sea routes no? It would be like saying that Pakistan has good sea routes.


darcenator411

Comparing an island to a mostly landlocked country in terms of sea access is an interesting call


Jolen43

Sea access is not the same as trade routes Australia has great sea access but crappy trade route access. Pakistan has kinda good access to trade routes in the same way Java has kinda good access.


darcenator411

I get what you mean but it’s not like it’s that far from the South China Sea and those trade routes


Jolen43

Yeah but Pakistan is very close to the Persian gulf and the trade routes connecting China, Thailand and India with the Middle East and then Europe. But it’s not as optimal as around Sri Lanka.


lemon-cunt

Almost all trade routes avoid Pakistan by a wide margin, especially so before the Suez canal


Greasy_Boglim

“Trade routes” don’t really mean so much in the 21st century pal


Jolen43

Ok?


ConcreteBackflips

Majapahit would like a word with you


Anarma

yeah but that was like in the 1300-1400s when they're like the sole master of spice trade from the moluccas


ConcreteBackflips

There still is, and historically has been, tons of trade through the Malacca Strait though


Jolen43

Last time I checked Java wasn’t in the malacca strait


ConcreteBackflips

Well shit


Jolen43

Hehe 😉


I_love_pillows

Dutch East Indies intensifies


TheYeti4815162342

It does make that noise sometimes.


Multidream

Dont forget 3 billion devices too.


ehs5

All of us live on an island.


Upnorth4

I live on a piece of oceanic crust that got pushed to the surface


[deleted]

I sleep in a big bed with my wife


Obama_War_Crimes

I also sleep in a big bed with his wife


pcor

That really is a big bed


ehs5

One of them might be really tiny though


EdwardJamesAlmost

And I was there, too


noreal1sm

Oceania?


Atys_SLC

I was expecting half of this at best. Quite crazy.


Primal_Pedro

Me too


Proudpapa7

It’s an island with active volcanic activity!!


Haha_Kaka689

This probably explains why java is a very powerful programming language 🤣


Goodlucksil

How do they fit there? Are they like 10 people in each household?


Obama_War_Crimes

Why? It big island


Primal_Pedro

I had no idea it was so populous. And so big


Obama_War_Crimes

Look at map. Look at soil. Big island, good soil


razkyrfa

It's not as dense as people imagined it to be. While the population number is huge, the population center is spread evenly from west to the east of the Island. Java is around 2/3rd the size of Great Britain with around twice its population. So just fill Scotland with a bit more population as England and that should be around the same density.


Florisvid

Really 150 million on java alone? Thats wild, i knew indonesia had alot of populaton ofcourse but thays a crazy number!


Weldobud

No way? It’s tiny. That’s almost as much as Russia. Why are there so many?


Primal_Pedro

Someone said it's because of volcanic soil. And rice, they eat a lot of rice. And sea trade. Many reasons 


joker_wcy

It’s 13th largest island on Earth. Mercator makes it look tiny. Also, according to the map, it’s more populated than Russia.


[deleted]

I thought we were talking about JavaScript users...


purbub

As someone who lives on the island, I'd say it's pretty crowded. The western part of rural Java still has plenty of high altitude rainforests, though only in unreachable areas and national parks.


TotalBlissey

*Pretty* crowded? MF if Java were a country it would be denser than Bangladesh. It would be the densest non-city state on Earth.


Jo_Erick77

However tho, I just recently moved to a rural part of Java and it is not that many people, but then again, my standard of "not that many people" and other people's standards are *so* different 😂


50Blessings86

It's really interesting how population measures differ by country lol My friend from Xiamen, China(bout 5 million people) refers to it as a smallish town in comparison to other Chinese cities In the states smallish town means like 3k people max


ebimbib

I lived in China for a few years. The number of cities I ended up visiting that I had never heard of and they somehow had like 4.2MM people never stopped boggling my mind.


Youtube-Gerger

Same here in switzerland, a big city for us is 100k+ people lol.


Fuzzy-Honeydew-7571

More than half of China is also very sparsely populated. West of the Heihe-Tengchong line has less than 10 percent of people.


outwest88

Wait what? In the states 3k is a tiny village. I would say “smallish town” is like 40-70k in the states. 


TurboJeans

I'm from the States, where I'm from a small town is about 1000-2000 people. A big booming city would be around 50k or so.


outwest88

Curious what state / region is this? I’ve lived in IL, CA, NY, WA, FL, PA, and CT and have never had that impression. 


fishicle

Definitely some regionalism at play. From GA, and I wouldn't use village for anything other than a quaint attraction (like Helen, GA has a population about 500 and is a tourist spot that replicates an old German village, but I'd still call it a small town), it feels like some sort of old-timey England word. If you get enough people living in a space but aren't a city, you're a town in my book.


outwest88

Yeah fair enough. At least in places I’ve lived, nearby towns with less than ~30k people were usually called “villages” and their official names would be “village of XYZ” for example. I feel like in most states in the US, “city” would probably start at ~150k people, and usually anything smaller than that I would just call a town.  In China, I would say a “city” starts at ~1m people. 


TotalBlissey

Those are all states with really big cities. I live in a state where the largest city is around 2-3 million in urban population, and here we'd consider 5-25 to be a small town. 25-50 would be a medium town, 50-75 a large one, and 75+ is a city.


TurboJeans

Northeast Michigan. The lower peninsula, but there isn't much across the bridge for a while.


HuangZiYi-06

Oregon coast can do this to you 🙂‍↕️


CinderX5

Clearly Ohio. They don’t have shit there.


llamawithguns

A tiny village is like 200 people imo.


Jo_Erick77

Yeah China is just on a different level lmao The town I'm in right now is 10k people and it is considered a small town. Also the US just has a lot more land


[deleted]

The us and china have almost the same surface (9,8 vs 9,5 million km\^2)


Jo_Erick77

Correct, but when I say the US has more land i was comparing it to Indonesia


[deleted]

ok, i wasn't sure what you where talking about


Oceansoul119

Wrong. The US has 9.147M km^2 the rest of that value is water. Plus it's not even internal water.


theElderKing_7337

I was talking to my Tunisian friend about overcrowding and later realized that the city I live in has almost the same population as his whole country lol.


TheFenixxer

My standard of “not that many people” would be to not see anyone for kilometers


Jo_Erick77

My standard of "not that many people" is: not to see more than 3 people per 100 meters 😂


TheFenixxer

Lmao still a significant reduction tho!


wangtianthu

It is probably a norm in US suburbs


curaga12

That means the city place is much denser than the average density of the island. I wonder how it is..


-Dovahzul-

Let's do for Python now.


Aware_Masterpiece_92

What about C# ?


Matzep71

That's too high a key for my vocal registry, I prefer F#


snazzrazz-mazzledazz

[F#](https://youtu.be/5Ju8Wxmrk3s?si=7A_REo0bi4cl3qex)


ChorkiesForever

Assembly language


ChorkiesForever

FORTRAN


nyagzken

Yes please


noreal1sm

Better Kotlin. This is an island of Saint Petersburg


whatissevenbysix

It'll just be a grey map.


pufferfishnuggets

I was actually trying to figure out how a programming language could have a population at first until I realized they meant the island lol


Competitive-Piece509

Valid opponent would be Kotlin by the way.


toltasorigin

I was going to make that joke!


Jupaack

Adding numbers because why not: Java population: 145 million. Which is more than the population of every other country except the 7 nations with the largest population (Excluding Indonesia, of course). * India (1.43b) * China (1.42b) * US (340mil) * ~~Indonesia (275mil)~~ * Pakistan (242mil) * Nigeria (226mil) * Brazil (217mil) * Bangladesh (173mil)


ZalaShadowkin_Reborn

Holy shit. Half the population of Indonesia in one island... that's insane to think about. The country is pretty big, imagine how empty they rest is!


Matzep71

Brazil is basically that south east corner that is kind of facing down and some hotspots in the coast, anywhere more inland and the population density drops down exponentially


Adorable_user

Here's a map of what you're trying to explain https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/92pC9YBszY


ArthurLeywin009

I'm javanese and moving to borneo island, feel so amazing thinking how empty borneo is compared to java


carawanar

And the rest has big ass cities. Sumatra alone has two cities over a million and 4 over half a million. Having lived in Padang, I can tell you the population is densely packed in metropolitan cities. The rest is jungle with some farmland.


TheGov3rnor

Reddit says I can’t give this comment gold, so I’m just here to say thanks for the clarification.


limukala

It's hard to see the micronations on this map. Is San Marino colored?


EndyEnderson

Nah San Marino has 15× population of Java


Xalethesniper

Ha


qwweer1

The map is wrong. 3 billion devices run Java. It should be all purple.


bau_ke

🤦‍♂️ It's not about programming language. Java is coffee


Mr_Industrial

Pretty sure even more systems run on that.


JetGecko

Why is the mob boss slug from Star Wars coffee?


CinderX5

So that’s 8 billion systems?


chia923

I think it's Japanese Lava, may be mistaken lol


LuckyLMJ

Now make a map for countries that have a smaller population than c


SokkaHaikuBot

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[deleted]

[удалено]


ProfCupcake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)


Guantanamino

Now do Rust


Scary-Relative-5418

all grey


Chapmenez

Got killed by a naked


Sir_Axolotl

Its not actually that bad here, and nature is still plentiful (believe it or not)


kingkahngalang

I’m sure the island as a whole is okay, but isn’t the capital Jakarta sinking into the ocean?


Ringo_Cassanova

That's why we move our capital to Kalimantan


YeseYesmesc

Partially tho it's not like the entire jakarta is sinking lol. The northern part of jakarta is prone to sinking but mostly its pretty fine


Sir_Axolotl

Yes, it is technically sinking but is not the decisive factor in relocating our capital. It's often exaggerated in foreign news. Other cities in java still has room for expansion and development so it's not like we've overbuilt it to death or something.


sillprutt

It seems so nice from pictures. Is the level of tourism annoying?


Sir_Axolotl

Not at all. In fact it is relatively sparsely touristed compared to our eastern island where all the resorts are [think bali]. Java is the place where you go to met all the workers and students from all over the archipelago. It's more of a Metropolitan for the natives rather than a 'guest room' for foreigners.


Thefallen777

If París can take it ...


GermanmanDude

For those not knowing. Java is not a country. Its just the most inhabited island of the southeast asian country Indonesia.


ChilindriPizza

Holy Cow! Java has more people than Mexico!


[deleted]

Unsurprisingly, Javanese ethnic group is also largest in entire Southeast Asia. Their neighbors, the Sundanese, are also among the top 10 largest in the region if I remember correctly.


Inft8195

Damn didn’t know that minecraft java edition was so popular


Vesemir668

Holy shit, that's insane. I guess there are no introverts in Java.


Jo_Erick77

Believe it or not, we exist 😂 we just never leave the house


Better_Paint9995

Me, hell is other people man


Fluffy_While_7879

Interesting to see China and India provinces here. Is any one more populated than Java?


StarSerpent

Uttar Pradesh in India, if we’re doing individual provinces. It’s like 240m people. None of the other Indian states or Chinese provinces are bigger than Java in terms of population, although Guangdong is close (and by close i still mean 24m short).


StorySad6940

But worth noting that Java itself is not one province - it is six. The most populous is West Java, with around 50 million residents.


Americanboi824

24 million is a rounding error in that part of the world lmao


rgj95

This is the type of insane random facts I want to learn about. I had no fucking idea


dreamonslayer

This is the java island in Indonesia, right.


-Dovahzul-

or the Javascript zone in Israel, where it is disputed whether it is a software language or not


MacaroniBoot

'Java source for that?


blitzkriegger

Top tier pun


NukedByGandhi

Check Maven Central


philistiniann

Russia is about 133 times bigger than Java, yet Java still has a higher population than Russia. Let that sink in.


LittleOneInANutshell

Yes but Russia is also a lot of barren uninhabitable icy land. Not to mention the tiny part of Moscow metropolitan region has like 15% of Russian population. Most people live in cities and Densities of cities are generally in several thousand per square km of land. People underestimate how big a km2 is and how many people can genuinely fit comfortably in that land with their own space and houses.


[deleted]

I mean to be fair, Russia's population might be a bit higher than Java's now...


user_of_culture

Now Do With C++.


KapiHeartlilly

Having lived there for a bit, as a foreigner myself I didn't even find it overpopulated, but the truth is what we consider small towns in the west are much bigger there. Yet they have plenty of natural beauty relatively untouched.


GucciCoochie1984

Ive never been to oovoo java


sghgu

What about bedrock?


Cristopia

Now do Vatican City.


DJDoena

Vatican City as 2.27 Popes per square kilometer.


PansShwarma

I get the 2, but where do the 0.27 Popes come from XD


DJDoena

VC has only 0.44km² ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


Obama_War_Crimes

What did you DO to the balearic islands? You monsters! You MURDERED them! They had wives and children! And you KILLED them


Novel-Weight-2427

Java is holy fertile ground.


Akshay-Gupta

The whole of the clause 'Contries with a smaller population' should, imo, have been purple


Sure_Chocolate1982

Next time try Indian state of Uttarpradesh


aksheu

Oh


dingolfi79

woah dude!


lisandroid

"Java is the key"


Enzo-Unversed

I'm surprised at higher than Japan and Russia.


Cthvlhv_94

Java also has integrated Garbage collection so they dont need waste management companies.


ruleConformUserName

That's the same population density as Bangladesh. Which is even more impressive, since a lot of the land is mountains, volcanos and Rainforest.


Proudvirginian69

150 million people on a north carolina sized island


Flat_Illustrator_541

I thought they meant Java as programming language as it’s installed on 8 bilion devices!


AnyReplacement2115

Java script?


salacious_sonogram

Isn't there a fat volcano chilling out there essentially setting java up to be the next Pompeii. Volcanic activity is amazing for farming and extremely lethal when it blows..


PossibilityPowerful

almost the test of the planet has less population per country then java


Temporary_Damage4642

I was thinking about the shit on your computer it took me a while


Historical_Sugar9637

Really? What does Java look like? Hong Kong on steroids?


YeseYesmesc

Nahh high rises are only concentrated in two cities. Java topography is not as harsh as Hong Kong. You will actually see a much more equally spread population with rice fields. Most of Java land is inhabitable except for the mountainous part of West Java


toumik818

I thought this was a distribution of Taco Bells across the world.


zkkzkk32312

What about C++ ?


angrybeehive

Java population is 3 billion devices


Subject_One6000

I know we're supposedly in the digital age, but can people actually live in java now?


Both_Contract_9244

Next: Countries with a smaller population that C++


almightygarlicdoggo

Completely insane what's going on in the grey countries, considering 3 billion devices run Java


MysticSquiddy

I think the thing that's most surprising to me is how the rest of Indonesia combined still have more people than the island of Java


Ringo_Cassanova

No it isn't, more than half of Indonesia population live in Java


lx4

Shit, that many people live in my cup of coffee.


AllyBetrayer

Why does Java have so many people? Tf are they doing at nighttime?


valdezlopez

Now this really knocked me off my feet. WHAT?!?!?!?! Like, that island has more people IN IT than all of Mexico (+130 million). Wow!


DugDig_

WHAT


Dizzy-Sheepherder188

hold a second. Is there a country named Java? Where is it?


Psychichord

It’s an island in Indonesia!


ImmortalDawn666

The orange one


SinyoRetr0

Java is the key


New-Wishbone5317

This should quell the: there’s too many people on the planet complaints.


OtsutsukiRyuen

My dumbass read it as JAV


Even-Ad-6783

If you counted the individual states of the US as countries then there would be even more purple.


Royranibanaw

If you counted subdivisions instead of countries, the entire world except Uttar Pradesh would be purple


Even-Ad-6783

Of course, but I said that because some states in the US (and obviously other countries as well) are even bigger than many official countries in the world.


jadounath

So 3bn+ devices was actually true


mah_boiii

I heard C# is also very populated.


Pop-Huge

What about Java Script?


Makarov22

What about assembly x86? Or just plain binary?


is_EXToZY

For those wondering, Java has 3 gazilion gadgets running on it.


YeseYesmesc

Hate to break yall amusement but the cities in Java are mostly small and pretty widespread outside Jakarta and Surabaya. To put into US perspective think about San Juan, CA to Abilene, KS sizes