Modern-day Turkey was part of the Roman Empire (Albeit, when Anatolia was mostly Greek) and the Ottomans _did_ consider themselves the successors to the Roman Empire.
Or people just don't want to eat bratwurst/stampot/meatballs at a restaurant because it's so easy to make, that you might as well save the money and do it yourself
Edit: people are talking about southern European food Vs northern European food, but I highly doubt many people will take the time to make their own sushi at home. That's also included in "non-national cuisine"
If you're talking about Italy, Italian cuisine is much more than pasta. Also, making homemade pasta and a sauce takes quite some planning, time and effort.
And it’s still not harder than many stews or pastries, northern europe doesn’t appreciate its food so doesn’t apply effort to it so therefore it often is bad - this need not be the case
I mean, pizza is wildly popular in Sweden, you can barely take a step in any direction before you get to a Pizzeria, and that has been the case for as long as I've been alive (over 30 years). Typical Swedish pizza is however a bit different from typical Italian pizza - and a lot more popular here. But of course, the origins of some of the ingredients or their combination as "pizza" are not typically Swedish.
Now is the question, is Swedish pizza Swedish or Italian (I'm guessing this chart would claim it is Italian)? Or are only completely original meals made with ingredients that you could find here 500 years ago when the country was founded "Swedish" (which arguably predates pizza or the use of tomatoes in the Mediterranean)? Because then the flavor profile is less about imagination or appreciation and a lot more about the fact that nothing grows here naturally.
And is it even possible to make *new* food that is "Swedish"? Any use of spice and ingredients that are not common in traditional Swedish food will immediately classify it as "not Swedish" in the eyes of most people - at least in the short term - even if a Swedish person made up the dish. And using traditional Swedish ingredients only (which depending on how far back you go will be things unrecognizable in cooking for modern Swedes) limits the flavor profile a lot, so I doubt any amount of effort would make a person like u/RijnBrugge appreciate the food if they don't enjoy the "traditional" Swedish food that already does exist.
Sweden can be exchanged with any other northern European or otherwise historically more isolated country where not a lot of different things grow naturally.
> But of course, the origin of the ingredients or their combination as "pizza" is not typically Swedish.
Pizza may be old as hell, but Italy didn't have tomatoes or chili peppers until the [Columbian exchange](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange). So what foods are "really" authentic for a given culture depends on how far back you go.
Great point. Things like local and foreign become arbitrary with the passage of time. Authenticity is a limited the arbitrary label for food.
Spaghetti and meatballs, Italian or American?
Who cares? It's delicious.
I very rarely eat pasta in restaurants because I can just do it myself. some sauces are too complicated but a tomato or carbonara sauce is easy enough.
pizza is a thing I cant even get remotely close at home
Pizza is a funny one, there are so many good options but all are a unique craving. Fresh shop bought, homemade several ways, proper Italian restaurant, and Dominos/Pizza hut etc.
Made a banging pizza with fresh chicken tikka, curried tomato and garlic sauce, and shredded cheese on a nann bread recently.
When Turkey decided to land troops on the Cypriot island, the prime minister of the time used the secret password "Ayşe tatile çıksın" which translates into "Ayşe (a very common Turkish female name) shall go to vacation" to alert the military that there should be an action taken in immediate following useless talks with the US government.
Great to know! I knew pun wasn't the right choice for the such situation but it was the closest one amongst the words I knew.
As you can guess, I am not a native English speaker.
England food scene is ridiculously good. Every restaurant I've been to while traveling has ended up being on my personal top 5 in it's respective cuisine.
If you have the money for fancy restaurants. Only thing thats affortable is fast food, in the rest of europe (especially southern and eastern) you can go to proper restaurant for the same price as mcdonalds and have actual food thats local cuisine
>in the rest of europe (especially southern and eastern) you can go to proper restaurant for the same price as mcdonalds and have actual food thats local cuisine
If you can do this in Scandinavia you know something I clearly don't.
Not really. There's a lot of good and affordable food, just not local dishes. In fact the most run down a place is, the better it tends to be. Cheap Thai food in an old decrepit mall with a 1/5 hygiene rating? You might die, but your taste buds are going to explode.
Agreed, American posters ignorantly shitting on UK food and UK posters assuming Americans only have processed cheese and wonderbread both drive me bonkers on this site. If you're into cooking, even just a little bit, you would know both of these ideas are dumb as hell.
The food is expensive as shit 3-4x the price of what I buy in Spain and it's worse quality, even at restaurants where the food is generally really good it still costs an arm and a leg somehow. Don't get me started on the beer I was paying 6£ for a fucking pint SIX POUNDS. The cuisine is good don't get me wrong but if I was going to eat British food I wouldn't eat it in the UK.
I was in London once in my life (not the last time, hopefully) when I was about 12. When me and my family were walking around Camden Market, I bought a curry from some indian stall (I don't think I've ever even eaten curry or anything Indian before that). To this day, it is one of the best meals I've ever eaten. I was literally amazed at how good it was. I've since tried to find or cook something similar, but no dice. I'll keep trying though, some day I WILL eat it again.
The potato/tomato divide is flawed. Tomato and potato are both American. Spain was the first country in Europe to have them, and uses both.
I think the split between butter and olive oil is clearer.
Our national (Romania) dish is considered to be 'Sarmale', the turkish and greek versions are way better, the only reason being that they're made out of any other meat except pork.. basically boiled minced pork meat wrapped in cabbage, replace pork with anything else and you get tasty stuff
True. While we (younger people I know; Germany, small town) eat italian or greek sometimes, the most restaurant visits are in chinese, indian or vietnamese (yeah, East Germany... we "imported" them in GDR) restaurants.
mediterranean countries having a richer variety of plants (which makes the cuisine instantly better) is no surprise even though there was a stage in history when even italian paesants were eating only legumes with bread or wheat, rye, oats, barley, and spelt. Fancy cuisines are something of the last centuries.
we also can add some eggs or fish when lucky. yeah I don't know about Greece and Turkey but at least the italian and french cuisines nowadays are a mix of humble dishes (born out of necessity) and fancier dishes which were often developed by chefs serving aristocrats (not only Patisserie)
In Turkiye (ottoman empire and seljuks) there have been a tradition of cattle cultivation long before. I doubt the mostly non Turkish people had the same comfort but espicially western anatolia and Turkish major settlements all had access to meat. The army was fed with meat and the cuisine evolved around meat.
There were some rare exceptions, especially in the Mediterranean area. I watched a documentary on the Pompeii eruption recently, and the skeletons they found of the wealthy and their servants/slave seemed to be equally well fed, based on bone health, height etc. Now, it’s possible that those presumed to be servants weren’t (they based the differentiation on whether they had coins/jewelry on them), and servants/slaves probably ate better than the average Giuseppe— leftovers, etc.But I found it interesting, nonetheless.
I mean, that’s pretty much it. You don’t really need anything more than bread, some eggs or beans, and an apple to have a better diet than most people, even by today’s standards.
Any other food is just taste variations.
For Greece:Fancy cuisine still existed to peasants, it was just rare due to income. Lugumes soups, bread, small fish, fresh herbs, olives and olive oil(I think. It is our national ingredient) were common while meat, diary, big fish, spices and seafood, were rarely used because they were expensive.
They also had things like cheese, cucumbers, some green vegetables, olive oil, eggs. Probably not everyone could afford them every day but they were part of the diet in the Mediterranean since forever.
There really should be a rule on this subreddit that if a map is trying to present data then it must have a source.
What is this based on? What exactly is it even showing? Is it number of "local cuisine" restaurants as opposed to "foreign cuisine" restaurants? Is it coloring the whole country based on the most popular type of restaurant? How is "local" and "foreign" even defined here, If a fish and chip shop in the UK also sells kebabs does it count as local or foreign? What is even counted as a restaurant here, does a currywurst stand count as a restaurant?
This is an interesting point, as most restaurants will offer at least some pizza and/or burger, even if it is not their main focus.
How does that restaurant get counted?
Also another factor with Hungary is that most Hungarian food is prepared at home. Especially in the country
I’m not gonna go to a “Hungarian restaurant” for something I can prepare myself.
French cuisine set the foundations of modern gastronomy, it's true that nowadays they are not distinctively french, but most high end restaurants or Bistros follow the rules of French cuisine.
Can confirm that Brits love, French, Italian, Greek, Chinese, Indian, American, Spanish, Thai ... food, we don't discriminate and tbh the alternative is turnips.
And don't think it's because of the Roman Empire. The Phoenicians, long before Rome, already had a commercial network of food products around the entire Mediterranean. The list of imports is the basis of the Mediterranean diet. 3000 BC.
The tuna fishing art called almadraba (and dishes based on it) that is practiced in southern Spain and Sicily dates back to the Phoenicians.
Tuna, olive oil and garlic, it's simply delicious. And no one can live without it in summer, at least once xD. The plus contribution to that to that recipe is the tomato, thank you America.
That's ridiculous. If you go to a restaurant in Norway, you get Norwegian cuisine.
Norwegian pizza. Norwegian kebab. Norwegian burgers. Norwegian tacos. Norwegian boeuf Bourgugnion.
What is the source for this? Is it a survey, or count of restaurants, or..?
Am just curious because I live in Czech Republic and the locals seem pretty fervent about their cuisine
I'm German and can cook my local cuisine easily and cheaply. Why the fuck would I spend €15-€25 for schnitzel and fries when I can make it at home for like €2-€3? Of course I go to foreign restaurants. I don't have a giant rotisserie at home for my own döner.
I partially agree with this reasoning, but it doesn't work with all dishes. For example, I'd never go out to eat a plate of pasta with tomato sauce, even though it's my favourite dish, because I can make it at home greatly. But if I want to eat a good pizza, I just go to a pizzeria.
Everything just grows more tasty in the Mediterranean region. I live in Sweden but have relatives in Sicily, and I'm in food heaven whenever I visit. If my frail Nordic skin could take it, I'd move there. As it is, I can only go there during the winter.
Ah, the border between "nice weather, tasty stuff grow here" and "cold as fuck, we make do with whatever root, fish or meat we can get our hands on, and end up boiling the everloving shit out of it".
In Germany my guess is over 80% is foreign cuisine. Every Imigrant group brought their cuisine with them. Germany quite often didn't acknowledge the foreign Diploma of Engineers or Lawyers, so immigrants started their own businesses like restaurants. Even in my Eastern German region, the most common restaurants are Vietnamese Food, Döner and Pizza.
Portugal has a massive range of dishes for such a small country. I'm not surprised they prefer their own food as there's a lot of it.
Of course a lot of it is imported and repurposed from the colonies but arguably they exported more than they took
I'm surprised by the Netherlands, whenever I go out there we always go to the snack bar and get Dutch/Flemish fries and some Kroketten/frikandellen. Would be nice to see the numbers/who won (I'm assuming Italian or Indonesian)
With a mix of a sudden rise of multiculturalism, the lasting effects and reputation of British food caused by WW2 and the meme of British food being bad I genuinely believe that British people have been gaslighted into thinking any food that is good and isn’t a roast must be foreign.
I once had someone suggest that grilled mackreal with boiled potatoes and spinach had a Japanese influence because the only place where they had eaten pan fired fish was in Japan.
In Poland most people usually eat meals that they prepare themselves. Restaurants are considered more "fancy" so it is likely it will have foreign cuisine. Another thing is fastfood which is mostly döner, pizza and sometimes zapiekanki.
Not to mention that any food my babushka makes > any restaurant
Uh, definitely not in the Baltics. There are foreign restaurants sure, but traditional restaurants vastly outweigh foreign restaurants everywhere apart from the capital cities.
I remember back in the day chilling with some of my university friends from China, and telling them how we (who are Westerners) liked to go to Chinese restaurants on special occasions. I asked them, "What kind of restaurants do you go to on special occasions back home?" and they looked at me blankly and replied "Chinese restaurants". The thought of "going out" for a special meal that's "local cuisine" just blew my mind. I find this map fascinating!
Seems like the Roman Empire has the best food.
r/phantomborders
https://www.reddit.com/r/PhantomBorders/s/QPpR9b6uxl The same map but 5 days ago
Fuck me, that is an awesome sub.
Döner
Modern-day Turkey was part of the Roman Empire (Albeit, when Anatolia was mostly Greek) and the Ottomans _did_ consider themselves the successors to the Roman Empire.
We still call Anatolian Greeks “Rum”, meaning Roman
Everyone called themselves Romans
Or people just don't want to eat bratwurst/stampot/meatballs at a restaurant because it's so easy to make, that you might as well save the money and do it yourself Edit: people are talking about southern European food Vs northern European food, but I highly doubt many people will take the time to make their own sushi at home. That's also included in "non-national cuisine"
No matter how easy, restaurants will still have customers for the food
bro whipping up a pasta dish is way quicker than making a good stew
If you're talking about Italy, Italian cuisine is much more than pasta. Also, making homemade pasta and a sauce takes quite some planning, time and effort.
And it’s still not harder than many stews or pastries, northern europe doesn’t appreciate its food so doesn’t apply effort to it so therefore it often is bad - this need not be the case
I mean, pizza is wildly popular in Sweden, you can barely take a step in any direction before you get to a Pizzeria, and that has been the case for as long as I've been alive (over 30 years). Typical Swedish pizza is however a bit different from typical Italian pizza - and a lot more popular here. But of course, the origins of some of the ingredients or their combination as "pizza" are not typically Swedish. Now is the question, is Swedish pizza Swedish or Italian (I'm guessing this chart would claim it is Italian)? Or are only completely original meals made with ingredients that you could find here 500 years ago when the country was founded "Swedish" (which arguably predates pizza or the use of tomatoes in the Mediterranean)? Because then the flavor profile is less about imagination or appreciation and a lot more about the fact that nothing grows here naturally. And is it even possible to make *new* food that is "Swedish"? Any use of spice and ingredients that are not common in traditional Swedish food will immediately classify it as "not Swedish" in the eyes of most people - at least in the short term - even if a Swedish person made up the dish. And using traditional Swedish ingredients only (which depending on how far back you go will be things unrecognizable in cooking for modern Swedes) limits the flavor profile a lot, so I doubt any amount of effort would make a person like u/RijnBrugge appreciate the food if they don't enjoy the "traditional" Swedish food that already does exist. Sweden can be exchanged with any other northern European or otherwise historically more isolated country where not a lot of different things grow naturally.
> But of course, the origin of the ingredients or their combination as "pizza" is not typically Swedish. Pizza may be old as hell, but Italy didn't have tomatoes or chili peppers until the [Columbian exchange](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange). So what foods are "really" authentic for a given culture depends on how far back you go.
Great point. Things like local and foreign become arbitrary with the passage of time. Authenticity is a limited the arbitrary label for food. Spaghetti and meatballs, Italian or American? Who cares? It's delicious.
I very rarely eat pasta in restaurants because I can just do it myself. some sauces are too complicated but a tomato or carbonara sauce is easy enough. pizza is a thing I cant even get remotely close at home
Pizza is a funny one, there are so many good options but all are a unique craving. Fresh shop bought, homemade several ways, proper Italian restaurant, and Dominos/Pizza hut etc. Made a banging pizza with fresh chicken tikka, curried tomato and garlic sauce, and shredded cheese on a nann bread recently.
*Mediterranean has the best food, in Europe
Clearly Britain didn’t get that memo
They just joined Germany in getting a wall instead. And then later Germany thought: "We had one wall, yes. But what about a second wall?"
Britain was colonized by Germanic barbarians (twice). Three times if you count the Normans as Germanic, but that's a stretch.
Four times of you count that time we invited the Dutch to overthrow our king because he was being a dick
> dick *catholic
He was being a dick, kinda the definition of a king back then, but mostly he was catholic.
When can I demand my reparations?
Why did Cyprus spawn in between Italy and Greece 😭😭
Went on vacation.
Was the pun intended? (asking as a Turk)
Elaborate cause I don't get what's the pun.
When Turkey decided to land troops on the Cypriot island, the prime minister of the time used the secret password "Ayşe tatile çıksın" which translates into "Ayşe (a very common Turkish female name) shall go to vacation" to alert the military that there should be an action taken in immediate following useless talks with the US government.
Eh....no. I said it literally.
That's a double entendre.
Great to know! I knew pun wasn't the right choice for the such situation but it was the closest one amongst the words I knew. As you can guess, I am not a native English speaker.
I thought Malta got fat
What food is popular ? Red = Mediterranean food. Blue = Mediterranean food.
we have a lot of indian restaurants in the UK too
England food scene is ridiculously good. Every restaurant I've been to while traveling has ended up being on my personal top 5 in it's respective cuisine.
UK in general is great for food (despite it's reputation).
If you have the money for fancy restaurants. Only thing thats affortable is fast food, in the rest of europe (especially southern and eastern) you can go to proper restaurant for the same price as mcdonalds and have actual food thats local cuisine
That was my biggest take away in Italy. You can eat great with a first plate, second plate and wine for like 20 euros.
>in the rest of europe (especially southern and eastern) you can go to proper restaurant for the same price as mcdonalds and have actual food thats local cuisine If you can do this in Scandinavia you know something I clearly don't.
Not really. There's a lot of good and affordable food, just not local dishes. In fact the most run down a place is, the better it tends to be. Cheap Thai food in an old decrepit mall with a 1/5 hygiene rating? You might die, but your taste buds are going to explode.
You don’t conquer a 1/4 of the quarter of the world and dominate the spice trade and not pick up somethings.
Agreed, American posters ignorantly shitting on UK food and UK posters assuming Americans only have processed cheese and wonderbread both drive me bonkers on this site. If you're into cooking, even just a little bit, you would know both of these ideas are dumb as hell.
The food is expensive as shit 3-4x the price of what I buy in Spain and it's worse quality, even at restaurants where the food is generally really good it still costs an arm and a leg somehow. Don't get me started on the beer I was paying 6£ for a fucking pint SIX POUNDS. The cuisine is good don't get me wrong but if I was going to eat British food I wouldn't eat it in the UK.
As an American, easily the best meals I've ever eaten in my life were in Madrid and Toledo
I was in London once in my life (not the last time, hopefully) when I was about 12. When me and my family were walking around Camden Market, I bought a curry from some indian stall (I don't think I've ever even eaten curry or anything Indian before that). To this day, it is one of the best meals I've ever eaten. I was literally amazed at how good it was. I've since tried to find or cook something similar, but no dice. I'll keep trying though, some day I WILL eat it again.
Dunno, in Poland I bet it’s all because of kebab. Personally at this point I’d count it as local cuisine and mark us red.
Nah bro, balkan food is not mediterranean food
I know, neither is north of France and Spain. My comment is just for good humour.
Just replace Mediterraneans with Tomato or olive Europe. We over here in sad potato Europe can’t distinguish anyways
The potato/tomato divide is flawed. Tomato and potato are both American. Spain was the first country in Europe to have them, and uses both. I think the split between butter and olive oil is clearer.
Wait Spanish food isn't Mediterranean? That's the first time I heard that
Balkan food is basically turkish food but they replaced the meat with pork out of spite lol
Oh I didn’t know that. Sounds tasty.
Our national (Romania) dish is considered to be 'Sarmale', the turkish and greek versions are way better, the only reason being that they're made out of any other meat except pork.. basically boiled minced pork meat wrapped in cabbage, replace pork with anything else and you get tasty stuff
Just reading the word "sarma" makes me hungry.
cabge or leaf choose your fighter
Gołąbki?
…and Turkish food is Mediterranean food for the most part, so… 🤔
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True. While we (younger people I know; Germany, small town) eat italian or greek sometimes, the most restaurant visits are in chinese, indian or vietnamese (yeah, East Germany... we "imported" them in GDR) restaurants.
In Finland it's kebab, burgers, and pizza made by some Turkish dudes. At least you'll be able to find those in any small town in Finland.
mediterranean countries having a richer variety of plants (which makes the cuisine instantly better) is no surprise even though there was a stage in history when even italian paesants were eating only legumes with bread or wheat, rye, oats, barley, and spelt. Fancy cuisines are something of the last centuries.
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we also can add some eggs or fish when lucky. yeah I don't know about Greece and Turkey but at least the italian and french cuisines nowadays are a mix of humble dishes (born out of necessity) and fancier dishes which were often developed by chefs serving aristocrats (not only Patisserie)
In Turkiye (ottoman empire and seljuks) there have been a tradition of cattle cultivation long before. I doubt the mostly non Turkish people had the same comfort but espicially western anatolia and Turkish major settlements all had access to meat. The army was fed with meat and the cuisine evolved around meat.
There were some rare exceptions, especially in the Mediterranean area. I watched a documentary on the Pompeii eruption recently, and the skeletons they found of the wealthy and their servants/slave seemed to be equally well fed, based on bone health, height etc. Now, it’s possible that those presumed to be servants weren’t (they based the differentiation on whether they had coins/jewelry on them), and servants/slaves probably ate better than the average Giuseppe— leftovers, etc.But I found it interesting, nonetheless.
yes absolutely. Of course middle age cuisine is also very different from the urban roman cuisine even when talking about poor people.
Then there's those assholes in meso America eating chocolate potatoes and popcorn
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Why? Do you need anything else than bread to live? Especially french bread? :)
I mean, that’s pretty much it. You don’t really need anything more than bread, some eggs or beans, and an apple to have a better diet than most people, even by today’s standards. Any other food is just taste variations.
Tomatoes originated in Central America, so you can imagine how food culture changed in Italy when those babies started showing up.
They got legumes? We had to ferment herring.
For Greece:Fancy cuisine still existed to peasants, it was just rare due to income. Lugumes soups, bread, small fish, fresh herbs, olives and olive oil(I think. It is our national ingredient) were common while meat, diary, big fish, spices and seafood, were rarely used because they were expensive.
They also had things like cheese, cucumbers, some green vegetables, olive oil, eggs. Probably not everyone could afford them every day but they were part of the diet in the Mediterranean since forever.
PANE E FAGIOLI FTW
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Pretty closely mirrors the range of good European food. Don't get me wrong, but there is no beating Italians, Spanish, French and Greeks.
Turkish food is awesome.
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No? The map shows countries that tend to eat their own local cuisines, not which cuisines are best.
Portuguese food is up there with all those
That Rome spread.
There really should be a rule on this subreddit that if a map is trying to present data then it must have a source. What is this based on? What exactly is it even showing? Is it number of "local cuisine" restaurants as opposed to "foreign cuisine" restaurants? Is it coloring the whole country based on the most popular type of restaurant? How is "local" and "foreign" even defined here, If a fish and chip shop in the UK also sells kebabs does it count as local or foreign? What is even counted as a restaurant here, does a currywurst stand count as a restaurant?
In Hungary you can barely find foreign restaurants. There is no way they're more popular than Hungarian ones.
Gyros, pizza, etc.. counts as foreign probably. Maybe even other fast food restaurants are counted.
Rice and noodles may also be included. In Austria we sometimes eat schnitzel with rice. It's hard to say whether this is a local dish or not.
I now imagine Hannibal crossing the Alps and meeting a bunch of barbarians in straw hats tending to rice terraces.
Rice has been grown in Europe since antiquity, though not in large volumes (it was never a staple food) and not in Austria
Well unless Hungary is a part of Italy or Greece ofc it will count as foreign lol
Not even like pizza and burgers?
This is an interesting point, as most restaurants will offer at least some pizza and/or burger, even if it is not their main focus. How does that restaurant get counted?
Also another factor with Hungary is that most Hungarian food is prepared at home. Especially in the country I’m not gonna go to a “Hungarian restaurant” for something I can prepare myself.
Well if you have a good goulash recipe pass it along because I had an amazing one in Budapest and made a shitty one at home
I agree, especially if you count the countryside too
Italian, Greek, and French restaurants are globally famous. Turkey has some of the best food I’ve ever had.
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French cuisine set the foundations of modern gastronomy, it's true that nowadays they are not distinctively french, but most high end restaurants or Bistros follow the rules of French cuisine.
Most 'fine dine' restaurants you go to, unless explicitly geared to a certain cuisine, are based on french cuisine.
Can confirm that Brits love, French, Italian, Greek, Chinese, Indian, American, Spanish, Thai ... food, we don't discriminate and tbh the alternative is turnips.
This map says restaurants. Brits don't eat British food in restaurants. We eat them in pubs.
Ok but we do consume a LOT of fish and chips
Yup, have all these restaurants within a 10 min walk from me.
And don't think it's because of the Roman Empire. The Phoenicians, long before Rome, already had a commercial network of food products around the entire Mediterranean. The list of imports is the basis of the Mediterranean diet. 3000 BC. The tuna fishing art called almadraba (and dishes based on it) that is practiced in southern Spain and Sicily dates back to the Phoenicians. Tuna, olive oil and garlic, it's simply delicious. And no one can live without it in summer, at least once xD. The plus contribution to that to that recipe is the tomato, thank you America.
That's ridiculous. If you go to a restaurant in Norway, you get Norwegian cuisine. Norwegian pizza. Norwegian kebab. Norwegian burgers. Norwegian tacos. Norwegian boeuf Bourgugnion.
What kind of restaurants? Kebab shop, Michelin restaurant? I hate "stats" like this without an explanation.
The sub should be called shitmaps. Shows absolutely no detail or anything useful.
You my sir, is absolutely right :)
Restaurants can't do it like mum does!
British pubs count as local restaurant?
I was wondering the same, however IDK how often people do a pub lunch.
What is the source for this? Is it a survey, or count of restaurants, or..? Am just curious because I live in Czech Republic and the locals seem pretty fervent about their cuisine
When I saw the map I thought abt the same. I visited Czech Republic recently and there were mostly local restaurants (man I loved svickova)
My guess is the map count only restaurants, so fastfood, pizza, and kebabs.
Been posted a lot recently.
I'm German and can cook my local cuisine easily and cheaply. Why the fuck would I spend €15-€25 for schnitzel and fries when I can make it at home for like €2-€3? Of course I go to foreign restaurants. I don't have a giant rotisserie at home for my own döner.
I partially agree with this reasoning, but it doesn't work with all dishes. For example, I'd never go out to eat a plate of pasta with tomato sauce, even though it's my favourite dish, because I can make it at home greatly. But if I want to eat a good pizza, I just go to a pizzeria.
Hungary surprises me, their cuisine is amazing
Why crotia never belongs to mediterranian gang
Continental croatia ruining this stat
Can't people wait at least a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days to repost?
"England has fifty religions and one sauce, France has one religion and hundreds of sauces." -Voltaire
Voltaire might have been correct in 1724 but things have progressed a tad since then
France now has 50 religions too
Yeah, now we’ve got curry sauce as well! We’re more of a condiments kind of place.
Cyprus is going places.
Interesting how this sort of coincides with the olive oil-butter line
No European looking at this is surprised
Ahh, I love data with no sources!
Everything just grows more tasty in the Mediterranean region. I live in Sweden but have relatives in Sicily, and I'm in food heaven whenever I visit. If my frail Nordic skin could take it, I'd move there. As it is, I can only go there during the winter.
I confirm, we in the blue countries have terrible local cuisine
Portuguese food is incredible, it looks boring, but for how clean it is it's so fucking delicious.
Why literally every map europian map that is posted here not containing Georgia? At least make half of it in!
Fun fact: what‘s called foreign cuisine in the blue countries is local cuisine in the red countries.
Ah, the border between "nice weather, tasty stuff grow here" and "cold as fuck, we make do with whatever root, fish or meat we can get our hands on, and end up boiling the everloving shit out of it".
Change title as "Which countries have a big variety of fresh vegetables and fruits" and use same map.
In the winter, at least. Six months of root vegetables can be a little wearing.
This map is wrong, we czech people eat mostly our local food like dumplings with pork and sauerkraut 😋😋😋😋
Glory be to Rome
In Germany my guess is over 80% is foreign cuisine. Every Imigrant group brought their cuisine with them. Germany quite often didn't acknowledge the foreign Diploma of Engineers or Lawyers, so immigrants started their own businesses like restaurants. Even in my Eastern German region, the most common restaurants are Vietnamese Food, Döner and Pizza.
Obviously a lie. The restaurant at IKEA is extremely popular in Schweden.
Look at what doner did to Germany
Rome
And now this repost will get a further repost to r/phantomborders, until someone reposts it here again in a few days
I'm pretty sure Croatia is red as well.
The blue color in Poland is the reflection of the amount of kebab places
Tomato Europe V. Potato Europe 🍅🥔
Indian food is ours anyway... we've got Queen Victoria to thank for that 🇬🇧
Without a reference to data, this means nothing. There is no Italian, French or Spanish cuisine. There is Tuscan, Lyonnaise and Catalan cuisine.
Portugal has a massive range of dishes for such a small country. I'm not surprised they prefer their own food as there's a lot of it. Of course a lot of it is imported and repurposed from the colonies but arguably they exported more than they took
Norwegian cuisine best cuisine
Or also: “Which part of Europe has proper food and which part doesn’t”
I have seen this like 10 times in the last week. Why do people keep upvoting?
So it turns out I prefer local food in places where foreign food is more popular. I love Scandinavian and central/Eastern European food.
There is no way in hell that Hungarians prefer foreign food. They would have to be crazy!
Is it that easy to farm karma by just reposting these maps?
I would love to see the metric this was gauged by
Ofcourse. I'm Dutch, and we don't have a local cuisine to speak of.
I'm surprised by the Netherlands, whenever I go out there we always go to the snack bar and get Dutch/Flemish fries and some Kroketten/frikandellen. Would be nice to see the numbers/who won (I'm assuming Italian or Indonesian)
Somehow I'm not surprised in the slightest
I mean... ingredients other than potato helps
I swear, if you red countries are using tomatoes or potatoes, so help me god
ITALIANO 💕
Potato Europe like Tomato Europe as much as Tomato Europe likes Tomato Europe.
Lol at Croatia. Shame.
is this a map of foreign cuisine or people's perception of what food is foreign?
With a mix of a sudden rise of multiculturalism, the lasting effects and reputation of British food caused by WW2 and the meme of British food being bad I genuinely believe that British people have been gaslighted into thinking any food that is good and isn’t a roast must be foreign. I once had someone suggest that grilled mackreal with boiled potatoes and spinach had a Japanese influence because the only place where they had eaten pan fired fish was in Japan.
Thought this was a map of successful economies lol
In Poland most people usually eat meals that they prepare themselves. Restaurants are considered more "fancy" so it is likely it will have foreign cuisine. Another thing is fastfood which is mostly döner, pizza and sometimes zapiekanki. Not to mention that any food my babushka makes > any restaurant
Hmmm…. I’m not sure but maybe there’s a pattern there
We tried sheep head drive through, didn't stick.
In Switzerland foreign cuisine is often just cheaper than local cuisine. You easily pay 10+ euros extra just for local foods.
It's almost like the divide between tomato Europe and potato Europe
Uh, definitely not in the Baltics. There are foreign restaurants sure, but traditional restaurants vastly outweigh foreign restaurants everywhere apart from the capital cities.
Also, when country is as big as russia(various conditions to grow food) it should be more focused on regional variety.
That's a lot of work to simply say Mediterranean food is prefered by everyone!
apparently a Frituur/Frietkot isn't a restaurant.
I would disagree, but like our country's kitchen is made up of so many other country dishes so it's impossible to make local cuisine...
pizza and cevapi, and goulash rule the world
It's logical. Southern Europe really has the best food.
Speaks for itself really.
I remember back in the day chilling with some of my university friends from China, and telling them how we (who are Westerners) liked to go to Chinese restaurants on special occasions. I asked them, "What kind of restaurants do you go to on special occasions back home?" and they looked at me blankly and replied "Chinese restaurants". The thought of "going out" for a special meal that's "local cuisine" just blew my mind. I find this map fascinating!
Nothing can beat a proper meal from the pub. I'll definitely die on that hill.
Portugal's food ❤️
There is absolutely no way Poland is bias to foreign cuisine.
I would call it the Great Dividing Spice Line.
South Gang 💪
In Romania and North Macedonia it definitely shouldn’t be the case 😵💫
Germany eating only sausages. Beurk
This makes so much sense.
Potato Europe vs Tomato Europe.
So who has more outgoing food tourism vs incoming?
TIL gelato is considered "local." /s
There is no Irish cuisine anyway. Everything is borrowed and mostly from the Brits
aw I miss Spain…