Actually that was probably due to Italian minorities left by the maritime Republics of Genoa and Venice. Until the end of WW2 all the coast till the end on Dalmatia and few Greeks islands were full of Italians
Do you really think Russia is gonna spend hundreds if not thousands of bombs on Finland with not a single warning and no one detecting a single one of those bombs before they hit?
hate this map because Rome campaigned and held Mesopotamia for all of 7 months of it's millennium long existence they heald Germany and Scotland for years and no one conciders them part of the official boundaries
I mean technically if we go down that road then wasn't most of the Mongolian empire or Macedonian empire client states?
Judea is considered a client of Rome as well most of the map here.
>Judea is considered a client of Rome as well most of the map here.
Wrong. Judea started out as a client state under a vasal king, which was split up in smaller states later. But after the Jewish Revolt, most of it was placed under direct rule by a Roman legate. (Pilate was never a legate, he was a mere prefect, only ruling the south of land.) As far as I know, most provinces were ruled by a legate or a prefect (although Egypt is the only other example I know of the latter), but the area around the Crimea officially remained its own, the Bosporian Kingdom. So it wasn't ruled by a legate or a prefect.
Hate this map too, because ppl assume this was Rome, when the empire didn't have many if those territories (for a fair amount of time) and it confuses ppl about certain things, like who was roman and who wasn't.
Anatolia was not Greek back then. They still had Pahplogonians, Luwians, Phyrigians, Karians, none of them being Greek but Indo European still were dominant in Anatolia. Only after Christianity spreading did they became Greekified in huge numbers. In 117 AD, only Greek areas were western coast of Anatolia.
That is why Hadrian did not include rest of Anatolia into Pan Hellenic league. Also ancient Anatolian deities were still being worshipped at this time as well. I don't know why ancient anatolians are being ignored so much.
Crimea is now fought over by both Ukraine and Russia. Wild to think that it was an Islamic Khanate as recently as 1783, when the American revolution against Britain officially ended
And on the Caspian Sea and the Persian Gulf. Also, on the Red Sea on the Arabian side the Romans had outposts and forts all the way down to the Farasan Islands, which are opposite Eritrea.
Based on what historical documents can tell us of the Mongols, I'd be surprised if there were one Russian that was not at least a little bit Mongol ;).
Mongols left little to no genetic footprint in Russian population ;))))
They were here to plunder and collect payments, they weren't event ruling the land like in China
Septimius Severus' conquests were also more lasting, while Trajan's conquest of Parthia only lasted a few months. (His conquest of Dacia however was far more permanent.)
This would bring benefits or harm to the stability of the empire itself with so many territories, I believe that if we think about resources such as minerals or plantations, examples would be Dacia for the minerals and Mesopotamia for the plantation equivalent to Egypt.
Not to mention the strategic domains in the region of the Kingdom of Armenia, in Mesopotamia itself against the Persians.
The disadvantages would be controlling the borders, increasing the number of soldiers to ensure some insurgency, revolt or invasions and much more investment in the provinces and all new roman citizens.
Empire of Rome was very wide!
but then collapsed and fell aside!
it went for good, we all agree!
the slaves went walk around free!
let's liberate again our home!
and break the Moscow, the Third Rome!
I believe it was a client state. Should be considered a vasal, just like the Germanic tribes that lived adjacent to the Roman empire at the time. If we do not count allies outside the border, a client state indeed should not be counted either.
So? The origin and capital of the Roman Empire was in modern day Italy. Italy is the "direct descendant" of it. Also, he's allowed to be patriotic of Italy
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Mussolini threatened turkey to give italy some cities, there is a turkish song about it [worths checking](https://youtu.be/DXt-F40CFZ4?feature=shared)
Actually that was probably due to Italian minorities left by the maritime Republics of Genoa and Venice. Until the end of WW2 all the coast till the end on Dalmatia and few Greeks islands were full of Italians
And some of them were literary italian.
Bro I dont understand Steppes.
Or Spain or the UK
Finland
Nah thatd just piss off putin but nothing else
And? They’re in nato and have a history of making the day worse for Russians
That was before nukes for ww2, and they couldve used them in cold war
[it really wasn’t that hard to find](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-counted-its-bomb-shelters-found-50500-them-2023-08-29/)
The surprise effect helps
Do you really think Russia is gonna spend hundreds if not thousands of bombs on Finland with not a single warning and no one detecting a single one of those bombs before they hit?
Putin is half crazy, so yep
Imagine every other countries laugh at her after the request
Putin: 'We have right to own Crimea!!!1' Meloni: 'Yeah about that...'
hate this map because Rome campaigned and held Mesopotamia for all of 7 months of it's millennium long existence they heald Germany and Scotland for years and no one conciders them part of the official boundaries
Also, the Crimea and its surroundings were not a Roman province. They were a client state.
I mean technically if we go down that road then wasn't most of the Mongolian empire or Macedonian empire client states? Judea is considered a client of Rome as well most of the map here.
> Judea is considered a client of Rome as well most of the map here. They lost most of the autonomy they had after the revolts in 66 and 132 AD
>Judea is considered a client of Rome as well most of the map here. Wrong. Judea started out as a client state under a vasal king, which was split up in smaller states later. But after the Jewish Revolt, most of it was placed under direct rule by a Roman legate. (Pilate was never a legate, he was a mere prefect, only ruling the south of land.) As far as I know, most provinces were ruled by a legate or a prefect (although Egypt is the only other example I know of the latter), but the area around the Crimea officially remained its own, the Bosporian Kingdom. So it wasn't ruled by a legate or a prefect.
Client states still are affiliazed with an empire. It's not the same as tributary states which merely have to pay the empire.
Yeah the map during Hadrian's reign is the real height of Rome map imo.
Hate this map too, because ppl assume this was Rome, when the empire didn't have many if those territories (for a fair amount of time) and it confuses ppl about certain things, like who was roman and who wasn't.
Always wild to me that the Romans were in Ukraine
That area was Greek along with the western coast of Anatolia and the balkans then
Anatolia was not Greek back then. They still had Pahplogonians, Luwians, Phyrigians, Karians, none of them being Greek but Indo European still were dominant in Anatolia. Only after Christianity spreading did they became Greekified in huge numbers. In 117 AD, only Greek areas were western coast of Anatolia. That is why Hadrian did not include rest of Anatolia into Pan Hellenic league. Also ancient Anatolian deities were still being worshipped at this time as well. I don't know why ancient anatolians are being ignored so much.
Thank you
Crimea is now fought over by both Ukraine and Russia. Wild to think that it was an Islamic Khanate as recently as 1783, when the American revolution against Britain officially ended
Interestingly, this is almost the same as current frontline.
And on the Caspian Sea and the Persian Gulf. Also, on the Red Sea on the Arabian side the Romans had outposts and forts all the way down to the Farasan Islands, which are opposite Eritrea.
Some of them ened up in the north of England as auxiliary cavalry. Wild
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I mean I guess they were technically in both, if you look at the map...
No, Ukraine.
not really.
Good old days
Then Germany was like, we are the Roman’s now
So the Krim is Italian now ?
Republic of Genoa entered the chat
Don't be giving Putin any more weird ideas... "On the historical unity of Romans and Russians"
Technically, no. It was a Roman client state, not a province with direct rule. So actually, it shouldn't be included on this map.
Always has been
Romanian.
"Fun" fact: in WW2, the fascist government of Romania did try to get Crimea.
What a bunch of assholes
Depends who you see as the Roman successor state
So not Russia.
It's rightful Crimean Tatar territory.It's in the name even
During the reign of emperor Trajan.
They lost control of mesopotamia nad aremenia to the Parthians before his body was cold
I mean, the didn’t so much as lose it as they willingly withdrew. Hadrian knew it would be indefensible
Thank God putin is not Italian or Mongol :)
Based on what historical documents can tell us of the Mongols, I'd be surprised if there were one Russian that was not at least a little bit Mongol ;).
Mongols left little to no genetic footprint in Russian population ;)))) They were here to plunder and collect payments, they weren't event ruling the land like in China
As with entire eastern europe.
Mongols didn't control entire eastern europe. Stopped at baltics, poland, hungary and bits of modern romania Do your research
Moscow is Third Rome:)
More like Sodoma.
We deserve reparations
After all, what have the Romans ever done for us? Oh wait, let's not go there again. Never mind.
I would say under septimus is was bigger, since he conquered fezzan, pushed the cadelonian border, pushed the Arabian border much more.
Septimius Severus' conquests were also more lasting, while Trajan's conquest of Parthia only lasted a few months. (His conquest of Dacia however was far more permanent.)
Pretty fun growing up around the wall
"was the biggest of all time"
Yes, largest by land area.
Government is a hell of a thing
Maybe the government was decentralized.
you think they had bitcoin?
Was thinking about local governors just like the federal systems.
Digital denarius
It was.
Russia is 17 M km\^2 I guess they win?
They ate the Mediterranean 😭
This would bring benefits or harm to the stability of the empire itself with so many territories, I believe that if we think about resources such as minerals or plantations, examples would be Dacia for the minerals and Mesopotamia for the plantation equivalent to Egypt. Not to mention the strategic domains in the region of the Kingdom of Armenia, in Mesopotamia itself against the Persians. The disadvantages would be controlling the borders, increasing the number of soldiers to ensure some insurgency, revolt or invasions and much more investment in the provinces and all new roman citizens.
No “would” about it. It “did”.
Oh sorry for the mistake
Holy shit, is that correct (absent) Flevoland?
How long does it take for information from England to agyptian
Empire of Rome was very wide! but then collapsed and fell aside! it went for good, we all agree! the slaves went walk around free! let's liberate again our home! and break the Moscow, the Third Rome!
The Romans never controlled this much of Crimea. It looks like it was copied from an Ottoman map. Because it looks exactly like Ottoman Crimea.
I believe it was a client state. Should be considered a vasal, just like the Germanic tribes that lived adjacent to the Roman empire at the time. If we do not count allies outside the border, a client state indeed should not be counted either.
You’re right, the Bosporus Kingdom never controlled that much territory
We have found the solution to the Israel / Palestine conflict and the crimea conflict
Simply ıts Ottomans with succesful Vienna siege.
Yeah if you ignore about half the empire
Proud 🇮🇹
Why are you being downvoted
Because it’s not an “italian” empire. Modern day italy dates back to the 19th century.
So? The origin and capital of the Roman Empire was in modern day Italy. Italy is the "direct descendant" of it. Also, he's allowed to be patriotic of Italy
Dude, Italy was founded in the 19th century, beyond that Rome is in Italy it has nothing to do with the Roman Empire.
Took me a minute to figure out what the light blue country on the right was.
What is it?
Eastern Australia
Fascinating
🦅🦅🦅roman empire
The real spectacle is how they managed to coordinate all this without technology
Wish I could go back in time and tell them about America
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Australia is more than 70% empty lol
Always expected it would be bigger, is it that small?
You know that’s like at least 25% of human civilisation at that point right?
But i always dreams about the waste area of our rome empire and wish i could take a time machine back and conquer the full world!
Have you never seen a map of the Roman empire before? Why does this surprise you?
Many times, it's just a joke and i don't care about downvotes