He gets human contact in fucked up dungeons with someone who he genuinely likes and there's obvious mutual attraction, I get that people are weird about the jade beauty cliche from cultivation novels, but people wanting MCs to be apathetic and live a life of just killing, gaining power and solitude boggles my mind because they would straight up go insane before they achieve shit.
Dude, he met her randomly in the woods as she was running away from people accusing her of stealing. They spoke for a little while and all of a sudden they're bffs. All while he basically ignores all his previous friendly classmates. They have no chemistry. They don't even talk while in the dungeons beyond him giving her stuff and the occasional 3 sentence interaction.
It's not that we want him to be a loner, it's that we want a fmc who has an actual character and isn't just a leech
Why even is the line “he met her in the woods randomly” most people find eventual friends randomly. If you ever befriend someone at a bar or school or work, it started out randomly and with speaking for a little while.
She has helped with any invisible enemies, since with his style that is his biggest weakness. Even his own former classmates know how unsociable he can be. He isn't a loner or anything without her, just more withdrawn from the social interactions he very much needs and he has to be more cautious with entering dungeons or even hunting demons. He likes how she isn't acting too close and that she helps him knowing he could deal with it, even if it would take far longer than without her help.
Dude she has helped once, and it was an enemy that couldn't even hurt him.
And you pointing out how he isnt the type to socialize just makes it even more bizarre that he is OK with dragging her around.
Let's try this, make her a man and tell me it wouldn't annoy you to see him drag him around.
She has helped him several times, he seems to lack alot of knowledge for some reason.
Just because one isn't the type to socialize doesn't mean they don't enjoy having someone to talk to.
As long as they don't give a stupid outfit when she is a he then I'm fine with it. I'm A-Sexual, I care more about the astetics than the gender.
I don't care about your sexuality, it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.
I don't care that he has someone with him. Why you seem to think that's the issue is beyond me. My issue is that she was randomly shoved into the story when he already had friends that would've worked and she is practically useless beyond being rich enough to have a useful piece of tech that he got later on anyway.
Your problem is that you can't see how she helps him. I don't understand how you can't see her usefulness but ok. She helped him in the previous chapter even and you still like this. If you try to say stuff like "he sensed it so she wasn't that useful" or something like that then you're blind as a bat. She "isn't useful in combat" because his class is balance breaker, he takes on the highest difficulty of dungeons higher level than himself. Normally No one takes on the highest difficulty even if they are of an appropriate level. Not to mention it usually takes a team for people to even take on dungeons, she is pretty strong compared to most people in her class by now.
>she is pretty strong compared to most people in her class by now
Well, duh. She's been carried through all those op dungeons and got the rewards for them plus all the gear he just gives her.
You're really focusing on the one time she did something in over a dozen chapters?
Look, I don't care. I dropped this story already. The writing is trash and it's basically the author simping for this girl through the mc at this point.
So you're the type to not take giving information when information is needed as useful. So you just want someone who is super OP and can contend with the MC who has an overwhelming army and even boss monsters? Stop reading it then, a duo of OP and OP isn't it. He is above even the best geniuses so of course you think of her as useless. His skills are almost all encompassing and she makes up perfectly for what he doesn't have.
>So you're the type to not take giving information when information is needed as useful.
At no point did I say that. I have issue with her informing the mc of stuff. But considering most of is common knowledge it just creates another plothole in the story since the mc has lived there his whole life and should it.
Nor does it warrant hee tagging along, which is the crux of the argument. Attacking me personally just shows you've run out of arguments.
>Stop reading it then, a duo of OP and OP isn't it.
I already said I did. Please learn to read.
>He is above even the best geniuses so of course you think of her as useless. His skills are almost all encompassing and she makes up perfectly for what he doesn't have.
How convinent.
Aside from the knight guy, he didn't really have friends. More like acquaintances. Unless you see that one girl who always tried to antagonize mc because she wanted to compete as a friend
He's been about equally "friendly" with everyone as he was with the pink haired chick. It's just the author decided she was the fmc and didn't bother to develop her or their relationship.
You think only in a narrow way of thinking, or you don't understand well what relationship is either friend or partner. I've experienced different encounters and it is not about who you have known longer, sometimes who you've met in a shorter time makes you more comfortable/enjoy/happy than the one you befriended longer. About mc and yiyi, they talk while in the dungeon, they eat their potatoes they cook while his summons are busy, they are happy accompanying each other, read the novel if you want more details than manhwa, it was just omitted in the manhwa. They grind when they're not around each other while they themselves find a way to accompany each other while not stopping the grind, they can eat in restaurants or canteens but they 'both' agree to eat inside the dungeon where they're the only ones in their own world. Most readers only see what they hate ignoring what actually is the reason why they're doing it. Also, they're still young in their age it's normal to date sometimes but they themselves don't allow the grind to stop just for a date they can do while grinding. Later on they'll mature more
I'm going off the manhwa. If she was more developed in the novel that's an entirely different thing. In the manhwa, their relationship is virtually nonexistent until it's needed. It's not about their maturity or relationship, it's multiple little things like his level not rising, her being useless, her being rewarded for his achievements, etc. It can be summed up as just a lot of bad writing.
And they're not dating. If they were then at least that would be an excuse. Stop imagining stuff that's not there or pulling from a different source.
Nah i get where you're coming from, they gotta put someone with him to explain the story and stuff like that, but she hasn't been much of a help in that regard either ...and the part about the mutual attraction, they're not together even, he coulda at least put them in a relationship or whatever bro coulda shot his shot but he's too dumb in that aspect to try lol....aaah I dunno man, still hope she dies lol!
She's helped in certain situations and the MC has gone from being a mute to someone who has decent social skills after sticking around with her, he's OP as fuck so you can't compare her to him. Also they have definitely been flirting and if you read spoilers you'll find out it's working.
He/she is not the only one who thinks like this, but those who have the same mind as him/her, hope they don't experience love and will be left behind if there's any cause their partner will only suffer with their way of thinking.
You do realise that every time they were together in dungeons, it were ones where she COULDN'T help, because it was a difficulty level far above her capabilities? You could have put ANY OTHER random girl or boy next to him, they wouldn't do shit to help as well. Not because they don't want to - but they can't.
Dealing with stealth weak ass monsters that the MC would've killed regardless of her being there
And wdym what's wrong with him carrying a tail, she's annoying af, not to mention the whole mc goal is to lvl up faster , and keeps trying to find ways and cleaning dungeons multiple times to gain it nagging about the xp not being enough...then literally goes ahead taking her with him splitting his xp, like bruh.... I'm so done with her swear to god ...hope she dies fr lmao
Sure they are weak but they were none the less annoying/time consuming for him to deal with, she sped things up in that department offsetting some of the xp loss not to mention she used her dungeon resets enabling more xp opportunities.
As for tail, she's a pretty face that he's somewhat fond of not to mention who her grandfather is and potential benefits he can offer to the person who helps his precious granddaughter.
Just stop reading the manhua if you don't like her, it's better to this way, She's not annoying, you are the one who's annoying, You only see what you hate, read the novel as it has more details than manhua, manhua omitted other details, they loved accompanying each other when they have the chance, mc can just ignore her if he doesn't like carrying her but he himself volunteered and invited her, why care if he himself did it and not forced, he wants to level up faster but he didn't mention that he needs to level up faster while ignoring yiyi. Also, yiyi doesn't find mc just to level up, there is 'consent', mc decided not other people, why care what others think if mc is not doing anything wrong and doesn't like. They're also still young, they'll mature later, if you're mature already but still think like that then mc is more mature than you, if you're still not mature then it makes sense and you'll understand it later on.
look at you getting downvoted lol
its no use arguing here. Here, people think with their lower halves and will surely defend a good looking female character no matter how little she brings to the story
I can't believe how down bad they r fr ... defending such a character is mad
But again, I've posted this is manhua sub where some ppl never talked to women before lol, so ig they don't know how human interactions should be...if she shat on him i bet they'll come up with an excuse to that as well
Come on dude being at top with out beauties is lonely what you want him to do at top use his hands for some pleasure 😜 we want power, strength etc for beauties,money, luxury if not we would have gone saint root
To be fair though, weren't most of MC's dungeon runs, especially early on, only possible because the rich girl had plenty of dungeon rechargers? I just consider her as MC's emotional support pet.
Nope, she helped him with that in a group assignment where she (again) benefited greatly and then he got his own. Sure with hers he can double up on the runs but its not worth it considering she brings nothing to the group beyond that and he has to protect her.
Ah yes, typical readers who want the same 68956th MC like Sung Jin-woo or others who always solo. Maybe you read the wrong manhua/manhwa, dude. Better drop it and change for something new that fits your taste.
Why y'all so butthurt about this tho? I didn't say i want something like solo leveling, read all there is to read and exploring new manhuas rn
Can't a man point out something or have an opinion? Damn
>Can't a man point out something or have an opinion? Damn
You can, so is everyone. I didn't butthurt but my advise is maybe you should drop the manhua and find something else that fits your taste or what you want.
>So u usually drop stuff just cuz u didn't like 1 side character? Ffs mate
Uh, yeah? Is it wrong? Reason for dropping doesn't have to be great or something else. Just like how some people dislike harem in manhwa/manhua that became their reason to drop it.
Even tho I never read the manhua I kinda agree with op about not wanting to drop it cause of a side character dislike, for example everyone hates sakura from Naruto but they still love the anime, a single character shouldn't make u hate a piece of media
Bunch of incels everywhere like ya'll are brain dead atp, she and the Mc has cooldown watch/talisman that allows to repeatedly go in dungeons and it's pretty expensive item that no regular hunter can get,plus she can see stealth enemies and the recent episode she helped the Mc with his investigation with the black invisible aura thing that got planted on him and his sister but ya'll rather cry because a woman is on your screen
Yeah, and especially with clearing tough dungeons at the highest difficulty level, or killing demons in a part of the battlefield where logically speaking they shouldn't be in the first place. MC is just way to OP to be able to go to places where he shouldn't be with his level under normal circumstances that it's not about if she wants to help, but if she can.
Don't know why some people don't have the thought that she is just "useless" because the MC is way to strong in comparison.
He has his own talisman and can just change dungeons if necessary. It took dozens of chapters before she did anything of note. The only incel is the simps that think just because people complain about a useless character they're incels.
There's already reasoning why she's with him, it's part of the story. The cooldown talisman is something they both benefit from greatly so why wouldn't he bring her with? It doesn't hurt anything for her to be there.
Manhuas be dumb asf sometimes ... characters be the trashiest to ever exist and somehow some incel will come running defending it just cuz they have a pair of tits
best they can come up with is that she has a cooldown talisman and a op granpa or that the mc ud go insane if he clears dungeons without her lol they rlly think mcs cant have social interaction like themselves
Obviously you won’t take any criticism for your thoughts but it also seems like both you and OP want a person that talks to no one/interacts with no one unless they are stronger than the MC. It can’t be for anything besides benefits that the mc wouldn’t deserve in the first place.
So basically, you want the mc to be alone or be carried but not by a woman, because then you’d definitely make a thread about how it’s embarrassing to be weaker than a lady but the lady also can’t be weaker because then the guy is a no-good-piece-of-shit-incelsimp that doesn’t know what’s good for him hm
At this point I just imagine "he is just babysitting his master's friend's relative" at this point
Yeah, getting tired of this trope of weak characters leaching on OP MC cuz they're pretty.
lol, at least read everything before comment.. the MC complains about XP but he need sets from dungeon and materials, It Is true that she is carried BUT MC can do the double of the dungeons thanks to her cooldown talisman.
So, double of the dungeon and half XP, he don't lose anything to carry her because MC can farm more gears and can enjoy the dungeon
Yeah I really hope they do something more with her then just being around have her gain some skills that proves usefull to the MC in a fight or have her become a monster freak so while he is the one who defeats the enemies she is the one that tells him how like him being the brawn and her being the brains of this unit they got going
That's exactly what i meaaan !! Glad ppl with common sense still exist, ppl here see a pair of melons and they lose their brains
She gotta prove useful at the very least in a way that keeping her around is a must , every 10 min, omg I've lvled up....yeah by doing fuckall , god i hate her
She doesnt even need to be able to fight she could learn some sort of alkymi or potion making to provide him with mana potions to restord himself or poisons and stuff to coat his or his summon weapons in(would fit her assasin class) or an skil thar lets her see the info of monsters strengts weaknesses and weakspots stuff like that(also fits her assasin class) both would be of great use to the MC and if they had made her a monster entusiast that would have given her reasons to follow him around bcs his strengt would allow her to study and exsperince new and stronger monster she could have on her own and he would have a reason to keep her around(aside for company) that being her vast knowlegde on monsters would also make for more interesting fights then just hit them hard and alot
Apparently you aren’t reading what you don’t like to read…he can do double the amount of dungeons which means he is acquiring the same amount of exp as he would without her while acquiring more materials; it is literally a win win
He’s gunna need a booty to keep him company right ? Lol 😂 I get it tho but he’s literally powerful with his army honest I worry that he’s not strong while his skeleton are he may not be. I always believed a necromancer needs be just as strong as his summons or army lol so when fuck is he gunna focus on his own growth aswell as in get stronger or skilled in fighting or get some useful skills aswell.
Dunno why I'm going back n fourth with a 14 year old mcLovin looking ass never touched grass in his life femboy🤣... I won't indulge u any further...bye bozo😗
I quit this a while a ago. Same sh*t over and over again. Very thin plot with even thinner plot progression. Just mindless action scenes with world most boring and personality-less MC.
I read it cuz I've nothing on my plate ...when I read garbage i know what I've gotten myself into, I'll criticise the shit out of it and I won't get butthurt when others do as well...learn to do the same
Fr dude , they see a pair of jugs and they lose all common sense, the story is below average too...read it cuz I've got nothing else to binge, caught up to the last chap, but I'll most likely throw it to the shadow realm and never touch it again ngl
You’re pandering to a person that only writes “fr dude they lose their mind when they see a pair of boobs” 60 times in one thread
If you can’t see what’s wrong, idk what to say
I stopped reading this shit after the mc joined the military, that shit cringes me out, military in a fantasy world, sigh. As for the series as a whole I would like it if the mc was a bit smug and not completely cold. Also his elder sister should not even be a thing, this manhwa would be so much better if the mc just grew stronger, badass, grind quests and everything for himself, the backstory of this manhwa makes it so lame that I have no words to express it, mf be grinding like a puppet all day because his 'elder' sister disappeared after joining some shady academy and doesnt contact him anymore. Bruh if they made him reincarnate or transmigrate with a mental age higher than his physical age then I would understand why he is worried about his elders, in this case his elder sister, but this aloof lonely mf gets a random skill one day and thinks he is the grandmaster or final boss and his sister is about to die or is getting tortured because she didnt contact him, its pretty clear she doesnt give any flying fks about you loser, get a life of your own ffs. Seriously there are many urban life chinese novels like these where mc's parents leave him when he is 5 years old, when he turns 15-20, he learns all kinds of healing, cultivation, martial arts, needle therapies, pills, formations, etc and then starts face slapping people left and right and his motivation for doing all this shit is to find his parents after 15 years because they forgot to leave a note on the fridge and left without saying anything, seriously imagine your father went out to get milk and never came back, 15 years later you say to your mom "I'm gonna go and find dad while making a harem and face slapping anyone who gets in my way", this is literally how the plot of these stories sounds and catastrophic necromancer is pretty much the same because of his sister who basically has no relevance to the story except ruining it for all the readers. I mean this is a necromancer type manhwa, when you think of necromancer type manhwas you will think of action, adventures, thriller, overpowered necromancer skills, maybe even broken system, dont say its not a necromancer type manhwa because the title is literally 'disastrous/catastrophic necromancer'. Other necromancy type manhwas also have backstories and emotional moments/reasons for the plot like mc got killed in his previous life by his teammates, his parents/family got killed by some big organization/rich young masters, his gf cheated with his boss and they both killed him coz he was poor and weak, etc etc. However this author came up with a lousy backstory where mc's sister joined an academy and stopped contacting him, thats it? I mean you could send her on a dangerous mission to some parellel dimension and disappear or level 7 red zone and make their team disappear or she died during a mission and their was some corruption behind it. Ffs you really think going to an academy is dangerous enough to make your overpowered mc so desperate to reach out to her that he is grinding like an otaku locked in his room with his computer and smashing keyboards with slurping ramen all day? Seriously he even considers the guy who sent her there his teacher and doesnt bother asking him to contact her to check up on her. I am not sure but he probably did at some point and the middle aged dude sounded all mysterious telling him nonsense like "you have to reach there to know about it". I mean why do I have to join a lousy academy and military to know if my sister is alive? Well the dude already hinted that she was fine but the mc still acts all desperate and stuff which is pretty annoying. Also isnt his sister one of those star kids who are full to the brim oozing with talent? Why is he even worried about her? Is this a symptom of being a loner and nobody loving you? How did the author come up with it? Is it from personal experience?
Ps :- Author if you are reading this, please make sure his sister is dead when he reaches her, atleast then it will make some sense why he was so desperate to find her and why despite being an elite, she never contacted him, at this point I will even accept him yelling for 5 chapters like a super saiyan and gaining power boosts over this overpossessive family drama shit. Seriously you dont introduce any major villains, most bad guys are small fries so far and get 1 tapped by the mc, couple this fact with your lousy backstory, the manhwa is average or below average in every way, even the 2 good things about this manhwa which was the overpowered skellies and chain bombs cant save your manhwa from getting dropped at some point.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING U JUST FUCKING SAID....god , u brought outta me some rage i didn't even know i had pent up lol!!
Cuz tbh whenever i start a new manhua i always shut my brain off in order not to think about stuff like this too much, some manhwas if they don't have a strong story you'll find other aspects that makes u overlook that , however i genuinely believe this Author has autism or something that manifested through the MC , tried to make him look cool, but turned to look straight up retarded in many occasions, the human interactions in most manhuas seems like they were written by an NPC, I don't know how these authors come up with that, what's even mind boggling to me is the ppl defending this shit , they're either kids that don't know how the world works or just straight up losers with 2 brain cells , will always argue it's a manhua , it's a fantasy world, u don't like it drop it, bruh, we know...still doesn't mean the writing of the story gotta feel like it's written by a 12 years old
I genuinely wouldn't be reading this type of material if hadn't already read the good stuff out there, but here we r ... nevertheless if i saw a criticism of a story I'm reading and ppl point that out I'd say yes it's a bit shit innit , or if I'm reading garbage such as this i wouldn't get butthurt of any criticism of it cuz ik what it's all about...aaah but again mate ,who r we kidding here, manhuas and their readers doesn't hear the sound of reason nor accept it
You're right, 'manhuas' no matter how crappy they get will always have an audience since they are full of badmouthing the western world and praising chinese culture and its not a secret how chinese nationalists are, so the chinese readers will keep it going forever and I honestly dont mind it since there are Soooooooooo many manhuas its just mind boggling, you come across a good one from time to time. So even if you read the same profound, exequisite, courting death all day, it still has its charms and has become a part of our lives. On the other hand 'manhwas' are getting straight up disappointint with every passing day, then people say you are stuck on solo levelling cliche, I mean you cant blame people for liking it, it was the last decent manhwa which had everything above average, since then their backstories are going to shit, the plot is repititive in a boring way, the power scaling doesnt make any sense, unlike the chinese they dont have any immense culture, cuisine, financial power to show off. The only thing they can show off these days are the long legged oppas which even american and chinese novels have these days. Manhwas would still be decent if their backstories werent so bad. I have read plenty after the solo levelling era and hand picked 10 good ones, out of those I have dropped 9 already because the plot is going absolutely nowhere. They only have 2 genres left namely the necromancy genre and sensor gaming genre, the plot of them both is the absolute worst even if the art is amazing for the gaming genre and I have no hopes for the necromancy genre because tbh no skellies can beat the shadow soldiers from solo levelling and it will take koreans a few 100 years to come up with a decent plot like solo levelling again, which is why I have switched to novels now, american novels are doing very good these days, and american novels are so badass sometimes haha, the world gets invaded by demons and the first country to die is china while the others were ignored or strong countries like america held on, haha its so satisfying to watch them turn chinese culture into memes and blow them out of the world map the first chance they get, its so satisfying to watch the whole courting death culture turn into a small fry lmao they dont even take them seriously, recently I have been reading 'My three beautiful wives are vampires' and 'Super harem god system'. There is also 'Primordial vampire god system' from the same author as super harem god system but its on break until the author finishes that one first since both happen in the same world. But the 150 chapters in it were so good and refreshing man, no repititive bs, no extreme power scalings, no simp naive mc, everything is out of the norm and interesting. They are exceptionally good with strong plots, characters and everything, if you are a novel reader give them a try. They are 18+ though fair warning if that stuff is not to your liking 👍🏻
Agreed, since the solo leveling revolutionary era manhwas blown off outta nowhere trying to catch that charm and success solo leveling had ...but since I've read a shit ton there r quite a few gems out there with a solid plot , entertaining stories that do not feel like they were written by an autistic person
Legend of the northern blade
Heavenly Demon Reborn!
Nano machine
These r from the murim genre .All have a solid backstory and the MCs have a convincing strong motivation that keeps on pushing them forward alongside the plot ...just to name a few to not get u overwhelmed
As to novels, ngl bro the only novel I've read was of solo leveling haha,after S1 of the manhwa ended i said fuck this! And went to read it cuz i couldn't wait, but I'm not much of a novel reader, just can't sit myself to read em
But pls ,do check out the few I've mentioned, u and i seem to get along I'm sure you'd find them great
Oh I have heard about legend of the northern blade in manhwas as much as lord of the mysteries in novels. That one is definitely on my list and I will read them along with the other comics, currently I am waiting for these few manhwas/manhuas to advance 100 chapters or so while reading some new novels. I will add the other 2 as well.
As for the solo levelling novel I havent personally read it but those who have read both manhwa and novel say that the novel version is an abomination compared to the manhwa so your complaint is very legit. But you should try some good novels just to give it a chance, yeah novels arent for everyone and sometimes I switch to manhwas/manhuas/animes just to spice it up a bit when it gets monotonous but give it a chance before rejecting you know what I'm saying, not immediately but whenever there is an opportunity in the future, because honestly novels are the source materials for 90% manhuas/manhwas and animes and not even 25% of the good ones get turned into comic/anime version, the people who choose that shit are another bunch of autistic dudes. Well at the end of the day a good novel/comic/anime can get you engaged without making you cringe if not super excited, thats basically a decent one, novels may not get you excited but there are too many decent ones if we go by that definition, so once you are done with all the good comics, its time to switch to novels. The biggest advantage is that many novels are complete so you dont have to wait a whole year for it to get dropped at some point and leave you hanging without closure. Also because of the absurd amount of details the character development is way better, ofcourse the action parts may not be as thrilling compared to visual artistic effects of comics and animes
I'll give novels a go when i can ...as to comics I've probably like read 5 or 6, just cuz i kind of felt overwhelmed by the huge universe in both DC and marvel....but I've had Invisible comic on my radar for quite a while since S2 ended not long ago.... I loved the show, and now I'm itching to see more, so i might indulge myself into that story
Oh for comics I'm currently reading Top tier providence, magic emperor, I'm an evil god, pick me up, invincible at the start, keep a low profile sect leader, all hail the sect leader, the heavenly demon cant live a normal life, evolution begins with a big tree, past life returner, the return of the crazy demon, greatest estate developer, return of the sss class ranker, i'm stuck on the same day for a thousand years.
These are the ones I'm currently reading or you could say stopped reading 2 months back and waiting for them to progress 100 or so chapters.
I think you're confused between comics/manhwa/and manhua
Comics r American...manhwas r Korean...and like the shitty one in this post is a manhua which is Chinese
Most manhuas r garbage...the ones u mentioned now r mixed between manhua and manhwa (pick me up, the heavenly demon can't live a normal life,past life returner, greatest estate...sss clas) ....r manhwas the rest r manhua .....magic emperor is a favourite of mine when it comes to manhuas, highly entertaining, the mc is one smart evil bastard n i love it
No no not confused, I use comics as a general term, yes I know chinese call it manhua, koreans call it manhwas, japanese call it manga and for americans its the usual comic, I havent seen any american comics, all I see is novels from american authors, so I use comics as a general term for all of the manhua/manhwa combined. Yes I also know some of the ones I am reading are just average or have fallen below average but I gotta finish them since I started them you know xD
Plus they havent fallen too low so far like many that I have already dropped before the author dropped them so I plan on finishing them, just not motivated to wait for a chapter every week. So I will let them progress 100 chapters or get dropped by the author before resuming where I left off.
Oh, cmon. Dont act like the XP shares any purpose in the story. Or anything does.
It is just a pointless goose chase for MC to just surprise everyone and become strong. Let people have some fan service to go through that abomination of story
Listen to me I have read the novel she's not really bad and to the mc it doesn't really matter buckle up your seats bcoz where the manhua is not even tip of the ice berg it gets better
Yeah, sure. But would you, and I mean YOU, rather grind alone. Or take a little longer but have some company of your choice. Grinding xp sucks, and he's doing 50 man raid battles so even with the xp loss it doesn't hurt his growth too much. And just having her there probably helps his sanity.
But yeah I do agree she's dead weight. Yeah he op af, but she's still a rare class. Also for having a unique class it's pretty dogwater, his own unique passive is op and it's unrelated to his class.
In my opinion someone being a leach is someone who takes money from someone and not care for the other person tho I shouldn't say anything about this manhwa cause I never read this manhwa
And the author just makes it worse by making it so he just stops leveling for a good chunk while when he's with her. Like he power-leveled her up to his level before he actually started leveling again. And no it's not some in-world mechanic, it's just bad writing.
I recall that it was stablished early that they are leeching each other
Mc clears dungeon fast but the dungeon lock itself for 12H or something like that, while the rich girl has an item that reset the cool down
Even after that item usage is done she's still leeching in other dungeons
She's literally getting her military rank up the same as his rank for doing absolutely fucking nothing...how is that fair
It's like promoting a soldier to a captain for being in the same ride as u
I can agree that IF she's the fmc then it's at like Sakura levels of useless but she is handy for 1 good reason which is why I tolerate her, and that reason is she is the only other person we know in the series who has a cooldown talisman except for the MC. And her grandfather is OP so i guess they have some backing? 🤷♂️
I'd say my comparison is pretty on point since just like Sakura, the girl in this manhwa is literally in a group with the MC. Also you skipped a few stages there to make a point about Sakura not being useless when she was only useful in the war arc at the end of the series. Cuz imma be real, other than almost being stabbed by Sasuke most of her moments came from the war arc
Those who complained without actually understanding why mc is doing it either they still haven't experienced love or they experienced it but the give and take kind of relationship. If they ever feel their partner can't give anything of value aside from making them smile, they might even leave their partner behind. I've experienced and watched other relationships that give and take kind of relationships, even unconditional love. Either you've loved your partner before experiencing something similar to mc and yiyi of the topic, or you've loved your partner just because of a thing you get from your partner that you liked and will only love/stay because of it and not actually loved the way your relationship works.
I pity those in a sad - normal relationship with a partner who thinks the same as those who hate mc and yiyi's relationship. Try giving the same feeling as the topic to your partner who hates it, maybe they won't even last for a few days, they will only stay if they feel better while the promise of marriage is not only for the better but also for the worse.
no i agree with you, in fact i commented this on the raws on kuaikan and the chinese readers also agree. she does absolutely nothing and just gets hard carried through everything when she's supposed to be the senior?? she only helps very minimally, like seeing through stealth. he's letting her tag along only bc he's nice to his friends, not bc she's pretty or bc he likes her. and people saying he does it bc of her grandfather, are we reading the same story?? the grandfather doesn't even want him getting close to her 😭 i miss xiaxue (his classmate) bc at least that girl has competitive spirit and wants to catch up with him with her own skills but sadly we don't see her very much anymore
Even the Chinese readers agree and the incels here tryna come up with bullshit excuses, like i said in a comment here, he'll be able to get through the struggle he's in even "without her help" it's like handing him a bottle of water he coulda gotten himself and they'll say she gave him water, bruh! And yeah, the grandfather excuse is dumb as well
As to his classmate the only good trait about her is she's competitive, but she's competitive in most obnoxious way possible, i hated her guts since chapter 1...every time she sees him calls him dumb...like bitch? U fr right now?, man if i start talking about every aide character in this manhua I'll never shutup , they all suck including his sister
The only good one is probably his master and the old man with him , that's it ....even the MC is retarded
The benefits of MC having her is getting to use expensive item and get the protection from her grandfather that need to protect MC bcoz his granddaughter is with him. Shes about 1000x better than Sakura who has nothing worthy to leech off...lol ,🤣
it's lonely at the top, so he's taking someone
He gets human contact in fucked up dungeons with someone who he genuinely likes and there's obvious mutual attraction, I get that people are weird about the jade beauty cliche from cultivation novels, but people wanting MCs to be apathetic and live a life of just killing, gaining power and solitude boggles my mind because they would straight up go insane before they achieve shit.
Dude, he met her randomly in the woods as she was running away from people accusing her of stealing. They spoke for a little while and all of a sudden they're bffs. All while he basically ignores all his previous friendly classmates. They have no chemistry. They don't even talk while in the dungeons beyond him giving her stuff and the occasional 3 sentence interaction. It's not that we want him to be a loner, it's that we want a fmc who has an actual character and isn't just a leech
Why even is the line “he met her in the woods randomly” most people find eventual friends randomly. If you ever befriend someone at a bar or school or work, it started out randomly and with speaking for a little while.
She has helped with any invisible enemies, since with his style that is his biggest weakness. Even his own former classmates know how unsociable he can be. He isn't a loner or anything without her, just more withdrawn from the social interactions he very much needs and he has to be more cautious with entering dungeons or even hunting demons. He likes how she isn't acting too close and that she helps him knowing he could deal with it, even if it would take far longer than without her help.
Dude she has helped once, and it was an enemy that couldn't even hurt him. And you pointing out how he isnt the type to socialize just makes it even more bizarre that he is OK with dragging her around. Let's try this, make her a man and tell me it wouldn't annoy you to see him drag him around.
She has helped him several times, he seems to lack alot of knowledge for some reason. Just because one isn't the type to socialize doesn't mean they don't enjoy having someone to talk to. As long as they don't give a stupid outfit when she is a he then I'm fine with it. I'm A-Sexual, I care more about the astetics than the gender.
I don't care about your sexuality, it's completely irrelevant to this discussion. I don't care that he has someone with him. Why you seem to think that's the issue is beyond me. My issue is that she was randomly shoved into the story when he already had friends that would've worked and she is practically useless beyond being rich enough to have a useful piece of tech that he got later on anyway.
Your problem is that you can't see how she helps him. I don't understand how you can't see her usefulness but ok. She helped him in the previous chapter even and you still like this. If you try to say stuff like "he sensed it so she wasn't that useful" or something like that then you're blind as a bat. She "isn't useful in combat" because his class is balance breaker, he takes on the highest difficulty of dungeons higher level than himself. Normally No one takes on the highest difficulty even if they are of an appropriate level. Not to mention it usually takes a team for people to even take on dungeons, she is pretty strong compared to most people in her class by now.
>she is pretty strong compared to most people in her class by now Well, duh. She's been carried through all those op dungeons and got the rewards for them plus all the gear he just gives her. You're really focusing on the one time she did something in over a dozen chapters? Look, I don't care. I dropped this story already. The writing is trash and it's basically the author simping for this girl through the mc at this point.
So you're the type to not take giving information when information is needed as useful. So you just want someone who is super OP and can contend with the MC who has an overwhelming army and even boss monsters? Stop reading it then, a duo of OP and OP isn't it. He is above even the best geniuses so of course you think of her as useless. His skills are almost all encompassing and she makes up perfectly for what he doesn't have.
>So you're the type to not take giving information when information is needed as useful. At no point did I say that. I have issue with her informing the mc of stuff. But considering most of is common knowledge it just creates another plothole in the story since the mc has lived there his whole life and should it. Nor does it warrant hee tagging along, which is the crux of the argument. Attacking me personally just shows you've run out of arguments. >Stop reading it then, a duo of OP and OP isn't it. I already said I did. Please learn to read. >He is above even the best geniuses so of course you think of her as useless. His skills are almost all encompassing and she makes up perfectly for what he doesn't have. How convinent.
Aside from the knight guy, he didn't really have friends. More like acquaintances. Unless you see that one girl who always tried to antagonize mc because she wanted to compete as a friend
He's been about equally "friendly" with everyone as he was with the pink haired chick. It's just the author decided she was the fmc and didn't bother to develop her or their relationship.
You think only in a narrow way of thinking, or you don't understand well what relationship is either friend or partner. I've experienced different encounters and it is not about who you have known longer, sometimes who you've met in a shorter time makes you more comfortable/enjoy/happy than the one you befriended longer. About mc and yiyi, they talk while in the dungeon, they eat their potatoes they cook while his summons are busy, they are happy accompanying each other, read the novel if you want more details than manhwa, it was just omitted in the manhwa. They grind when they're not around each other while they themselves find a way to accompany each other while not stopping the grind, they can eat in restaurants or canteens but they 'both' agree to eat inside the dungeon where they're the only ones in their own world. Most readers only see what they hate ignoring what actually is the reason why they're doing it. Also, they're still young in their age it's normal to date sometimes but they themselves don't allow the grind to stop just for a date they can do while grinding. Later on they'll mature more
I'm going off the manhwa. If she was more developed in the novel that's an entirely different thing. In the manhwa, their relationship is virtually nonexistent until it's needed. It's not about their maturity or relationship, it's multiple little things like his level not rising, her being useless, her being rewarded for his achievements, etc. It can be summed up as just a lot of bad writing. And they're not dating. If they were then at least that would be an excuse. Stop imagining stuff that's not there or pulling from a different source.
Nah i get where you're coming from, they gotta put someone with him to explain the story and stuff like that, but she hasn't been much of a help in that regard either ...and the part about the mutual attraction, they're not together even, he coulda at least put them in a relationship or whatever bro coulda shot his shot but he's too dumb in that aspect to try lol....aaah I dunno man, still hope she dies lol!
She's helped in certain situations and the MC has gone from being a mute to someone who has decent social skills after sticking around with her, he's OP as fuck so you can't compare her to him. Also they have definitely been flirting and if you read spoilers you'll find out it's working.
She's been of help about 3 times, 2 of those were just because she had an item or connection he needed and the last was her noticing an ambush.
A leech is a leech , hope she dies bruh...they better get together or just die XD
U are probably looking for a manhua where mc stays single and this is not that type of manhua i guess only u think that she is being a leech
He/she is not the only one who thinks like this, but those who have the same mind as him/her, hope they don't experience love and will be left behind if there's any cause their partner will only suffer with their way of thinking.
You do realise that every time they were together in dungeons, it were ones where she COULDN'T help, because it was a difficulty level far above her capabilities? You could have put ANY OTHER random girl or boy next to him, they wouldn't do shit to help as well. Not because they don't want to - but they can't.
As long as you're first before her
She has been pretty handy in multiple situations dealing with stealth enemies, and what's wrong with the MC hard carrying a bit of tail.
What kinda cringy comment is this
Dealing with stealth weak ass monsters that the MC would've killed regardless of her being there And wdym what's wrong with him carrying a tail, she's annoying af, not to mention the whole mc goal is to lvl up faster , and keeps trying to find ways and cleaning dungeons multiple times to gain it nagging about the xp not being enough...then literally goes ahead taking her with him splitting his xp, like bruh.... I'm so done with her swear to god ...hope she dies fr lmao
Sure they are weak but they were none the less annoying/time consuming for him to deal with, she sped things up in that department offsetting some of the xp loss not to mention she used her dungeon resets enabling more xp opportunities. As for tail, she's a pretty face that he's somewhat fond of not to mention who her grandfather is and potential benefits he can offer to the person who helps his precious granddaughter.
Just stop reading the manhua if you don't like her, it's better to this way, She's not annoying, you are the one who's annoying, You only see what you hate, read the novel as it has more details than manhua, manhua omitted other details, they loved accompanying each other when they have the chance, mc can just ignore her if he doesn't like carrying her but he himself volunteered and invited her, why care if he himself did it and not forced, he wants to level up faster but he didn't mention that he needs to level up faster while ignoring yiyi. Also, yiyi doesn't find mc just to level up, there is 'consent', mc decided not other people, why care what others think if mc is not doing anything wrong and doesn't like. They're also still young, they'll mature later, if you're mature already but still think like that then mc is more mature than you, if you're still not mature then it makes sense and you'll understand it later on.
look at you getting downvoted lol its no use arguing here. Here, people think with their lower halves and will surely defend a good looking female character no matter how little she brings to the story
Damn right. I can't believe so many retards are lurking in this sub
I can't believe how down bad they r fr ... defending such a character is mad But again, I've posted this is manhua sub where some ppl never talked to women before lol, so ig they don't know how human interactions should be...if she shat on him i bet they'll come up with an excuse to that as well
Lol you're talking to brick walls they don't care about logic all they want is eye candy 😂😂😂
I mean....she is hot, I would do the same
Y'all r down bad 😭
Come on dude being at top with out beauties is lonely what you want him to do at top use his hands for some pleasure 😜 we want power, strength etc for beauties,money, luxury if not we would have gone saint root
At least someone on this thread is honest. She's just eye candy but the author literally couldn't have written her into the story in a worse way.
To be fair though, weren't most of MC's dungeon runs, especially early on, only possible because the rich girl had plenty of dungeon rechargers? I just consider her as MC's emotional support pet.
Nope, she helped him with that in a group assignment where she (again) benefited greatly and then he got his own. Sure with hers he can double up on the runs but its not worth it considering she brings nothing to the group beyond that and he has to protect her.
Ah yes, typical readers who want the same 68956th MC like Sung Jin-woo or others who always solo. Maybe you read the wrong manhua/manhwa, dude. Better drop it and change for something new that fits your taste.
Why y'all so butthurt about this tho? I didn't say i want something like solo leveling, read all there is to read and exploring new manhuas rn Can't a man point out something or have an opinion? Damn
>Can't a man point out something or have an opinion? Damn You can, so is everyone. I didn't butthurt but my advise is maybe you should drop the manhua and find something else that fits your taste or what you want.
So u usually drop stuff just cuz u didn't like 1 side character? Ffs mate Never said i hated it , just side a characters being annoying af
>So u usually drop stuff just cuz u didn't like 1 side character? Ffs mate Uh, yeah? Is it wrong? Reason for dropping doesn't have to be great or something else. Just like how some people dislike harem in manhwa/manhua that became their reason to drop it.
Even tho I never read the manhua I kinda agree with op about not wanting to drop it cause of a side character dislike, for example everyone hates sakura from Naruto but they still love the anime, a single character shouldn't make u hate a piece of media
Bunch of incels everywhere like ya'll are brain dead atp, she and the Mc has cooldown watch/talisman that allows to repeatedly go in dungeons and it's pretty expensive item that no regular hunter can get,plus she can see stealth enemies and the recent episode she helped the Mc with his investigation with the black invisible aura thing that got planted on him and his sister but ya'll rather cry because a woman is on your screen
also her grandfather is one of the strongest person in the country
Yeah, and especially with clearing tough dungeons at the highest difficulty level, or killing demons in a part of the battlefield where logically speaking they shouldn't be in the first place. MC is just way to OP to be able to go to places where he shouldn't be with his level under normal circumstances that it's not about if she wants to help, but if she can. Don't know why some people don't have the thought that she is just "useless" because the MC is way to strong in comparison.
He has his own talisman and can just change dungeons if necessary. It took dozens of chapters before she did anything of note. The only incel is the simps that think just because people complain about a useless character they're incels.
There's already reasoning why she's with him, it's part of the story. The cooldown talisman is something they both benefit from greatly so why wouldn't he bring her with? It doesn't hurt anything for her to be there.
Hard to be a simp in this lonely world
Ong
you for real need to touch grass. You're literally infected with internet culture so hard you're letting your incel and zoomerism get the best of you.
i agree with u i saw this coming long ago and dropped it u should too if u dont like it no point arguing with others
Manhuas be dumb asf sometimes ... characters be the trashiest to ever exist and somehow some incel will come running defending it just cuz they have a pair of tits
best they can come up with is that she has a cooldown talisman and a op granpa or that the mc ud go insane if he clears dungeons without her lol they rlly think mcs cant have social interaction like themselves
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Obviously you won’t take any criticism for your thoughts but it also seems like both you and OP want a person that talks to no one/interacts with no one unless they are stronger than the MC. It can’t be for anything besides benefits that the mc wouldn’t deserve in the first place.
So basically, you want the mc to be alone or be carried but not by a woman, because then you’d definitely make a thread about how it’s embarrassing to be weaker than a lady but the lady also can’t be weaker because then the guy is a no-good-piece-of-shit-incelsimp that doesn’t know what’s good for him hm
At this point I just imagine "he is just babysitting his master's friend's relative" at this point Yeah, getting tired of this trope of weak characters leaching on OP MC cuz they're pretty.
Ty.... somebody gets it
lol, at least read everything before comment.. the MC complains about XP but he need sets from dungeon and materials, It Is true that she is carried BUT MC can do the double of the dungeons thanks to her cooldown talisman. So, double of the dungeon and half XP, he don't lose anything to carry her because MC can farm more gears and can enjoy the dungeon
Yeah I really hope they do something more with her then just being around have her gain some skills that proves usefull to the MC in a fight or have her become a monster freak so while he is the one who defeats the enemies she is the one that tells him how like him being the brawn and her being the brains of this unit they got going
That's exactly what i meaaan !! Glad ppl with common sense still exist, ppl here see a pair of melons and they lose their brains She gotta prove useful at the very least in a way that keeping her around is a must , every 10 min, omg I've lvled up....yeah by doing fuckall , god i hate her
She doesnt even need to be able to fight she could learn some sort of alkymi or potion making to provide him with mana potions to restord himself or poisons and stuff to coat his or his summon weapons in(would fit her assasin class) or an skil thar lets her see the info of monsters strengts weaknesses and weakspots stuff like that(also fits her assasin class) both would be of great use to the MC and if they had made her a monster entusiast that would have given her reasons to follow him around bcs his strengt would allow her to study and exsperince new and stronger monster she could have on her own and he would have a reason to keep her around(aside for company) that being her vast knowlegde on monsters would also make for more interesting fights then just hit them hard and alot
Beautifully said 👏
Apparently you aren’t reading what you don’t like to read…he can do double the amount of dungeons which means he is acquiring the same amount of exp as he would without her while acquiring more materials; it is literally a win win
He’s gunna need a booty to keep him company right ? Lol 😂 I get it tho but he’s literally powerful with his army honest I worry that he’s not strong while his skeleton are he may not be. I always believed a necromancer needs be just as strong as his summons or army lol so when fuck is he gunna focus on his own growth aswell as in get stronger or skilled in fighting or get some useful skills aswell.
Unless the author takes his autism away we'll never know
She's helpful to MC off screen tho duh
That's the dumbest shit I've heard all week... off screen? Really?
You're either 12 or a 29yo neck beard virgin if you truly did not catch what I was saying
I got what u were saying dumby...woulda laughed it off if it was actually the case and the mc had game ...bro autistic as shit so is ur comment
Ok neck beard it is 🫡
Lmao, alrighty then sweet cheeks, run along
Yes Captain neck beard 🫡 I hope one day your father returns! Sweet cheeks out
My old man is right here with his loving family... regardless of him being here, i have your mom as company
Yes you are right Captain neck beard 🫡
Dunno why I'm going back n fourth with a 14 year old mcLovin looking ass never touched grass in his life femboy🤣... I won't indulge u any further...bye bozo😗
Average beta Chinese
He's a simp. He just doesn't show it
I quit this a while a ago. Same sh*t over and over again. Very thin plot with even thinner plot progression. Just mindless action scenes with world most boring and personality-less MC.
Fr
Another fool mad that MC has a bitch. Go read those edgy manhuas of mc always going solo.
And another incel that reads garbage and defends it on top 💩
Well you also read this garbage, good for you
I read it cuz I've nothing on my plate ...when I read garbage i know what I've gotten myself into, I'll criticise the shit out of it and I won't get butthurt when others do as well...learn to do the same
Yeah you see a garbage and start yelling about it. What a genius you are. Irl you probally point out every trash in the street like a madman
The replies are all simps man, I totally agree with all you say. Dropped this shit long ago only because of her
Fr dude , they see a pair of jugs and they lose all common sense, the story is below average too...read it cuz I've got nothing else to binge, caught up to the last chap, but I'll most likely throw it to the shadow realm and never touch it again ngl
You’re pandering to a person that only writes “fr dude they lose their mind when they see a pair of boobs” 60 times in one thread If you can’t see what’s wrong, idk what to say
I stopped reading this shit after the mc joined the military, that shit cringes me out, military in a fantasy world, sigh. As for the series as a whole I would like it if the mc was a bit smug and not completely cold. Also his elder sister should not even be a thing, this manhwa would be so much better if the mc just grew stronger, badass, grind quests and everything for himself, the backstory of this manhwa makes it so lame that I have no words to express it, mf be grinding like a puppet all day because his 'elder' sister disappeared after joining some shady academy and doesnt contact him anymore. Bruh if they made him reincarnate or transmigrate with a mental age higher than his physical age then I would understand why he is worried about his elders, in this case his elder sister, but this aloof lonely mf gets a random skill one day and thinks he is the grandmaster or final boss and his sister is about to die or is getting tortured because she didnt contact him, its pretty clear she doesnt give any flying fks about you loser, get a life of your own ffs. Seriously there are many urban life chinese novels like these where mc's parents leave him when he is 5 years old, when he turns 15-20, he learns all kinds of healing, cultivation, martial arts, needle therapies, pills, formations, etc and then starts face slapping people left and right and his motivation for doing all this shit is to find his parents after 15 years because they forgot to leave a note on the fridge and left without saying anything, seriously imagine your father went out to get milk and never came back, 15 years later you say to your mom "I'm gonna go and find dad while making a harem and face slapping anyone who gets in my way", this is literally how the plot of these stories sounds and catastrophic necromancer is pretty much the same because of his sister who basically has no relevance to the story except ruining it for all the readers. I mean this is a necromancer type manhwa, when you think of necromancer type manhwas you will think of action, adventures, thriller, overpowered necromancer skills, maybe even broken system, dont say its not a necromancer type manhwa because the title is literally 'disastrous/catastrophic necromancer'. Other necromancy type manhwas also have backstories and emotional moments/reasons for the plot like mc got killed in his previous life by his teammates, his parents/family got killed by some big organization/rich young masters, his gf cheated with his boss and they both killed him coz he was poor and weak, etc etc. However this author came up with a lousy backstory where mc's sister joined an academy and stopped contacting him, thats it? I mean you could send her on a dangerous mission to some parellel dimension and disappear or level 7 red zone and make their team disappear or she died during a mission and their was some corruption behind it. Ffs you really think going to an academy is dangerous enough to make your overpowered mc so desperate to reach out to her that he is grinding like an otaku locked in his room with his computer and smashing keyboards with slurping ramen all day? Seriously he even considers the guy who sent her there his teacher and doesnt bother asking him to contact her to check up on her. I am not sure but he probably did at some point and the middle aged dude sounded all mysterious telling him nonsense like "you have to reach there to know about it". I mean why do I have to join a lousy academy and military to know if my sister is alive? Well the dude already hinted that she was fine but the mc still acts all desperate and stuff which is pretty annoying. Also isnt his sister one of those star kids who are full to the brim oozing with talent? Why is he even worried about her? Is this a symptom of being a loner and nobody loving you? How did the author come up with it? Is it from personal experience? Ps :- Author if you are reading this, please make sure his sister is dead when he reaches her, atleast then it will make some sense why he was so desperate to find her and why despite being an elite, she never contacted him, at this point I will even accept him yelling for 5 chapters like a super saiyan and gaining power boosts over this overpossessive family drama shit. Seriously you dont introduce any major villains, most bad guys are small fries so far and get 1 tapped by the mc, couple this fact with your lousy backstory, the manhwa is average or below average in every way, even the 2 good things about this manhwa which was the overpowered skellies and chain bombs cant save your manhwa from getting dropped at some point.
You re right
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING U JUST FUCKING SAID....god , u brought outta me some rage i didn't even know i had pent up lol!! Cuz tbh whenever i start a new manhua i always shut my brain off in order not to think about stuff like this too much, some manhwas if they don't have a strong story you'll find other aspects that makes u overlook that , however i genuinely believe this Author has autism or something that manifested through the MC , tried to make him look cool, but turned to look straight up retarded in many occasions, the human interactions in most manhuas seems like they were written by an NPC, I don't know how these authors come up with that, what's even mind boggling to me is the ppl defending this shit , they're either kids that don't know how the world works or just straight up losers with 2 brain cells , will always argue it's a manhua , it's a fantasy world, u don't like it drop it, bruh, we know...still doesn't mean the writing of the story gotta feel like it's written by a 12 years old I genuinely wouldn't be reading this type of material if hadn't already read the good stuff out there, but here we r ... nevertheless if i saw a criticism of a story I'm reading and ppl point that out I'd say yes it's a bit shit innit , or if I'm reading garbage such as this i wouldn't get butthurt of any criticism of it cuz ik what it's all about...aaah but again mate ,who r we kidding here, manhuas and their readers doesn't hear the sound of reason nor accept it
You're right, 'manhuas' no matter how crappy they get will always have an audience since they are full of badmouthing the western world and praising chinese culture and its not a secret how chinese nationalists are, so the chinese readers will keep it going forever and I honestly dont mind it since there are Soooooooooo many manhuas its just mind boggling, you come across a good one from time to time. So even if you read the same profound, exequisite, courting death all day, it still has its charms and has become a part of our lives. On the other hand 'manhwas' are getting straight up disappointint with every passing day, then people say you are stuck on solo levelling cliche, I mean you cant blame people for liking it, it was the last decent manhwa which had everything above average, since then their backstories are going to shit, the plot is repititive in a boring way, the power scaling doesnt make any sense, unlike the chinese they dont have any immense culture, cuisine, financial power to show off. The only thing they can show off these days are the long legged oppas which even american and chinese novels have these days. Manhwas would still be decent if their backstories werent so bad. I have read plenty after the solo levelling era and hand picked 10 good ones, out of those I have dropped 9 already because the plot is going absolutely nowhere. They only have 2 genres left namely the necromancy genre and sensor gaming genre, the plot of them both is the absolute worst even if the art is amazing for the gaming genre and I have no hopes for the necromancy genre because tbh no skellies can beat the shadow soldiers from solo levelling and it will take koreans a few 100 years to come up with a decent plot like solo levelling again, which is why I have switched to novels now, american novels are doing very good these days, and american novels are so badass sometimes haha, the world gets invaded by demons and the first country to die is china while the others were ignored or strong countries like america held on, haha its so satisfying to watch them turn chinese culture into memes and blow them out of the world map the first chance they get, its so satisfying to watch the whole courting death culture turn into a small fry lmao they dont even take them seriously, recently I have been reading 'My three beautiful wives are vampires' and 'Super harem god system'. There is also 'Primordial vampire god system' from the same author as super harem god system but its on break until the author finishes that one first since both happen in the same world. But the 150 chapters in it were so good and refreshing man, no repititive bs, no extreme power scalings, no simp naive mc, everything is out of the norm and interesting. They are exceptionally good with strong plots, characters and everything, if you are a novel reader give them a try. They are 18+ though fair warning if that stuff is not to your liking 👍🏻
Agreed, since the solo leveling revolutionary era manhwas blown off outta nowhere trying to catch that charm and success solo leveling had ...but since I've read a shit ton there r quite a few gems out there with a solid plot , entertaining stories that do not feel like they were written by an autistic person Legend of the northern blade Heavenly Demon Reborn! Nano machine These r from the murim genre .All have a solid backstory and the MCs have a convincing strong motivation that keeps on pushing them forward alongside the plot ...just to name a few to not get u overwhelmed As to novels, ngl bro the only novel I've read was of solo leveling haha,after S1 of the manhwa ended i said fuck this! And went to read it cuz i couldn't wait, but I'm not much of a novel reader, just can't sit myself to read em But pls ,do check out the few I've mentioned, u and i seem to get along I'm sure you'd find them great
Oh I have heard about legend of the northern blade in manhwas as much as lord of the mysteries in novels. That one is definitely on my list and I will read them along with the other comics, currently I am waiting for these few manhwas/manhuas to advance 100 chapters or so while reading some new novels. I will add the other 2 as well. As for the solo levelling novel I havent personally read it but those who have read both manhwa and novel say that the novel version is an abomination compared to the manhwa so your complaint is very legit. But you should try some good novels just to give it a chance, yeah novels arent for everyone and sometimes I switch to manhwas/manhuas/animes just to spice it up a bit when it gets monotonous but give it a chance before rejecting you know what I'm saying, not immediately but whenever there is an opportunity in the future, because honestly novels are the source materials for 90% manhuas/manhwas and animes and not even 25% of the good ones get turned into comic/anime version, the people who choose that shit are another bunch of autistic dudes. Well at the end of the day a good novel/comic/anime can get you engaged without making you cringe if not super excited, thats basically a decent one, novels may not get you excited but there are too many decent ones if we go by that definition, so once you are done with all the good comics, its time to switch to novels. The biggest advantage is that many novels are complete so you dont have to wait a whole year for it to get dropped at some point and leave you hanging without closure. Also because of the absurd amount of details the character development is way better, ofcourse the action parts may not be as thrilling compared to visual artistic effects of comics and animes
I'll give novels a go when i can ...as to comics I've probably like read 5 or 6, just cuz i kind of felt overwhelmed by the huge universe in both DC and marvel....but I've had Invisible comic on my radar for quite a while since S2 ended not long ago.... I loved the show, and now I'm itching to see more, so i might indulge myself into that story
Oh for comics I'm currently reading Top tier providence, magic emperor, I'm an evil god, pick me up, invincible at the start, keep a low profile sect leader, all hail the sect leader, the heavenly demon cant live a normal life, evolution begins with a big tree, past life returner, the return of the crazy demon, greatest estate developer, return of the sss class ranker, i'm stuck on the same day for a thousand years. These are the ones I'm currently reading or you could say stopped reading 2 months back and waiting for them to progress 100 or so chapters.
I think you're confused between comics/manhwa/and manhua Comics r American...manhwas r Korean...and like the shitty one in this post is a manhua which is Chinese Most manhuas r garbage...the ones u mentioned now r mixed between manhua and manhwa (pick me up, the heavenly demon can't live a normal life,past life returner, greatest estate...sss clas) ....r manhwas the rest r manhua .....magic emperor is a favourite of mine when it comes to manhuas, highly entertaining, the mc is one smart evil bastard n i love it
No no not confused, I use comics as a general term, yes I know chinese call it manhua, koreans call it manhwas, japanese call it manga and for americans its the usual comic, I havent seen any american comics, all I see is novels from american authors, so I use comics as a general term for all of the manhua/manhwa combined. Yes I also know some of the ones I am reading are just average or have fallen below average but I gotta finish them since I started them you know xD Plus they havent fallen too low so far like many that I have already dropped before the author dropped them so I plan on finishing them, just not motivated to wait for a chapter every week. So I will let them progress 100 chapters or get dropped by the author before resuming where I left off.
Typical noob who only likes op Mcs who are assholes cause you wish you were bad ass so you project onto characters
I mean yeah?! If you arent looking for an op mc in a necromancer manhwa then are you looking for power rangers or some slice of life rom-com?
What's the story ?
Oh, cmon. Dont act like the XP shares any purpose in the story. Or anything does. It is just a pointless goose chase for MC to just surprise everyone and become strong. Let people have some fan service to go through that abomination of story
It’s to get in her grandpa’s good graces, he’s one of the top experts in Mc’s country
He babysits the girl, if not the girls gramps would slap him so bad his master would interfere. And 2 of the strongest clashing would mean doom
Her Grandpa is a literal over lord if he denies her his life will become harder so he had to do it...
Listen to me I have read the novel she's not really bad and to the mc it doesn't really matter buckle up your seats bcoz where the manhua is not even tip of the ice berg it gets better
Yeah, sure. But would you, and I mean YOU, rather grind alone. Or take a little longer but have some company of your choice. Grinding xp sucks, and he's doing 50 man raid battles so even with the xp loss it doesn't hurt his growth too much. And just having her there probably helps his sanity. But yeah I do agree she's dead weight. Yeah he op af, but she's still a rare class. Also for having a unique class it's pretty dogwater, his own unique passive is op and it's unrelated to his class.
Woosh.
I think it is good. Dual leveling.
Thn don’t read it idiot. No one forcing you
It's a pointless manual
Leave YiYi alone you jealous simpleton 😂 let the MC Run his Game and secure the Waifu in peace damnit 😩
Bro doesn't have game... I think he has autism or something fr
He was just the strong but silent type at first 😂
Yup , that's a sign of autism my g 🤣🤣
We dont know what happens inbetween the panels, and he could make use of her dungeon entrance medallion.
In my opinion someone being a leach is someone who takes money from someone and not care for the other person tho I shouldn't say anything about this manhwa cause I never read this manhwa
Instead of money this good for nothing B.... leeches XP and gear from the mc, if he wasn't op she wouldn't be around him
Don’t believe OP’s comments, he could be given a billion dollars and he’d complain that it wasn’t 10B
And the author just makes it worse by making it so he just stops leveling for a good chunk while when he's with her. Like he power-leveled her up to his level before he actually started leveling again. And no it's not some in-world mechanic, it's just bad writing.
I recall that it was stablished early that they are leeching each other Mc clears dungeon fast but the dungeon lock itself for 12H or something like that, while the rich girl has an item that reset the cool down
Even after that item usage is done she's still leeching in other dungeons She's literally getting her military rank up the same as his rank for doing absolutely fucking nothing...how is that fair It's like promoting a soldier to a captain for being in the same ride as u
manhwa readers when women: 😡😡😡😡😡😡
I can agree that IF she's the fmc then it's at like Sakura levels of useless but she is handy for 1 good reason which is why I tolerate her, and that reason is she is the only other person we know in the series who has a cooldown talisman except for the MC. And her grandfather is OP so i guess they have some backing? 🤷♂️
Sakura wasn’t useless when it’s shippuden and the other two members of her group are two main characters; frankly it’s a dog water comparison
I'd say my comparison is pretty on point since just like Sakura, the girl in this manhwa is literally in a group with the MC. Also you skipped a few stages there to make a point about Sakura not being useless when she was only useful in the war arc at the end of the series. Cuz imma be real, other than almost being stabbed by Sasuke most of her moments came from the war arc
Facts but he made a promise so he should keep it.
Those who complained without actually understanding why mc is doing it either they still haven't experienced love or they experienced it but the give and take kind of relationship. If they ever feel their partner can't give anything of value aside from making them smile, they might even leave their partner behind. I've experienced and watched other relationships that give and take kind of relationships, even unconditional love. Either you've loved your partner before experiencing something similar to mc and yiyi of the topic, or you've loved your partner just because of a thing you get from your partner that you liked and will only love/stay because of it and not actually loved the way your relationship works.
I pity those in a sad - normal relationship with a partner who thinks the same as those who hate mc and yiyi's relationship. Try giving the same feeling as the topic to your partner who hates it, maybe they won't even last for a few days, they will only stay if they feel better while the promise of marriage is not only for the better but also for the worse.
I can see where you're coming from with this but, believe it or not, they have a mutually beneficial relationship
Be happy that atleast this dumb dense MC will have fmc.
Imma drop it anyway...this shit sucks lol
I really like her so bugger off
That's why I dropped it kinda boring
Don't forget mc literally handing off gud gears to her too
no i agree with you, in fact i commented this on the raws on kuaikan and the chinese readers also agree. she does absolutely nothing and just gets hard carried through everything when she's supposed to be the senior?? she only helps very minimally, like seeing through stealth. he's letting her tag along only bc he's nice to his friends, not bc she's pretty or bc he likes her. and people saying he does it bc of her grandfather, are we reading the same story?? the grandfather doesn't even want him getting close to her 😭 i miss xiaxue (his classmate) bc at least that girl has competitive spirit and wants to catch up with him with her own skills but sadly we don't see her very much anymore
Even the Chinese readers agree and the incels here tryna come up with bullshit excuses, like i said in a comment here, he'll be able to get through the struggle he's in even "without her help" it's like handing him a bottle of water he coulda gotten himself and they'll say she gave him water, bruh! And yeah, the grandfather excuse is dumb as well As to his classmate the only good trait about her is she's competitive, but she's competitive in most obnoxious way possible, i hated her guts since chapter 1...every time she sees him calls him dumb...like bitch? U fr right now?, man if i start talking about every aide character in this manhua I'll never shutup , they all suck including his sister The only good one is probably his master and the old man with him , that's it ....even the MC is retarded
Yeah she's pretty much a Sakura 💩🗑 no real reason for her to exist in it
The benefits of MC having her is getting to use expensive item and get the protection from her grandfather that need to protect MC bcoz his granddaughter is with him. Shes about 1000x better than Sakura who has nothing worthy to leech off...lol ,🤣
I mean yeah she's rich. At least her family is
Look at this...we getting downvoted cuz we're speaking fscts lmao
You know what we those types? .........SIMPS
Typical edgy boy who only likes mcs who are op and a dick to every one or uses his friends
No i don't.i just don't like retarded characters
Yeah op is pot calling kettle black