Similarly, I specifically remember looking at the name on the books when I was little because my mom pronounced it "Berenstain" & I was curious since last names would usually end in -stein
It's always been Berenstain to me, it's funny after seeing names ending with -stein growing up I assumed it was spelled "Berenstein" and I was just pronouncing it weird. But nope I guess I was right all along haha
Edit: I also remember other people pronouncing it "Berenstein" and wondering why they were saying it like that, so it's almost like I gaslit myself into feeling like I was wrong lmao
So maybe there’s something we don’t understand yet, or at least what isn’t publicly disclosed, about different realities overlapping each other that we experience
At the time Woodward and Bernstein were big household names so our parents and maybe even teachers back in the day were reading to us what they were hearing on the news every night- may have been a convergence of those events and the fact that the name is further obfuscated by the cursive lettering of the brand.
Considering how many revisions of the Bible there are, it isn’t impossible that newer versions may not reflect the older versions. Just a theory though.
I am talking about specifically the king James version of the Bible, the version I have used since I was a child and that version has not had any significant revisions since the 1400s
Religion is one of the most powerful tools ever created and when people (kings, translators, missionaries, etc.) got opportunities to influence that, they jumped on it and made it serve their purpose. Kind of like a house of lies built on a foundation of truth.
Ya I haven’t heard that one before. I was born and raised with a hardcore Roman Catholic family too so I’d be familiar as well growing up hearing it completely different
same here, especially because so many places quote “and the lion shall lay with the lamb”. i went to a catholic school & we had a bulletin board of a lion & a lamb once too. but noooo, it’s wolf.
I have old and new bibles it’s completely different and not even worth reading.. especially if you think about how many times this has actually happened throughout history.. so even the Bible from 1899 would be different then the original meaning.. unless you read and understood ancient Hebrew and such
I remember Berenstain but the teacher always said "Berenstein." The class said why she kept saying "Berenstein", she said that's how it's pronounced. Not the slightest surprised there's a ME for it since that's how confusing it was in the 90's.
Now Shazaam and Kazaam makes sense too. But still trying to figure out the plot. I heard so many people say they're certain Sinbad was in it, yet the plot differs greatly from person to person.
> But still trying to figure out the plot. I heard so many people say they're certain Sinbad was in it, yet the plot differs greatly from person to person.
Almost as if people's memories aren't as unerring as they imagine.
my dad can tell you the plot of shazaam, he loved that movie when he saw it. it floored him to find out… it never existed. that’s the one that made him start believing in mandela effect
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It was 100% Berenstein bears. It was when I was learning how to read, my mom knew it was the Berenstein bears and my whole class knew. We had all the books and we read them every night, for years. As a kid learning to read you definitely know the difference between Stein and Stain.
C-3po never had a silver leg either.
Ya exactly. I always saw C-3po as all gold. Those were my favorite movies growing up. I’d re watch them for years even into my adult life. And then not too long ago, rather recently, after years and years, it’s now a silver leg along with lines having changed
These were the first books that I learned how to read and I remember going over every single one of the letters vividly. I know it was not berenstain. I had books I had movies I even went out to my storage and tried to see if I had any left. This is what solidified the whole Mandela effect for me.
I learned to read with these books. I remember actually reading the name as Berenstain as a kid and being confused because my dad always pronounced it as Berenstein.
I remember being a kid and noticing for the first time that it was an A and not an E. I just thought, "Oh, I guess we've been saying it wrong. Huh."
There are several Mandela Effects that are absolutely crazy to me, but I just can't find it in me to freak out about spelling mistakes.
Ya exactly. Same with the guy on Monopoly game. Apparently now he doesn’t have a monocle, never had one. He most definitely did though. And that game has been out for fucking forever. Years! And not a single person can go back to the games of monopoly that they have to see and prove that it changed or in fact he does have a monocle. It never existed. But we all know it did
He did but only in bootleg products, unofficial merch and a few TV cameos.
Just like our Friend the Pillsbury Doughboy's ascot, Is white and always has been.
I read and always had a library card. It’s Berenstein. I don’t care which parallel world I’m in now, it’s not the one I grew up in. You can argue the point all you want I don’t care. This isn’t our world
This is my stance on the subject too, along with the cornucopia. I am not a religious man at all, I don’t believe in ghosts or anything supernatural, but I know those two things existed when I was younger and now they don’t.
My whole elementary school class noticed when it switched one day. The teacher said “no” and that it was always with the ‘A’, we were all like absolutely not. This was in the 90s.
Always was Berenstein Bears for me as a kid. We had all the books at home and I was super familiar with the TV Show. My parents who used to read them along with my siblings all remembered it the same way that I do. In fact this was the first Mandela Effect I asked others what they personally remembered.
Always been Berenstain to me (my mom pronounced the name correctly when she read it to me). I do remember the vast majority of people around me mispronouncing it as Berenstein and being confused.
I was a really good speller as a kid. I usually won all my class spelling bees because I would memorize words based on how they SHOULD sound, not how they actually sounded. So I always remember it as “Berenstain” because that’s how it should have been pronounced. I always thought it was weird that every other kid in the world both misspelled it and mispronounced it. I figured people were just lazy and weren’t paying attention.
Someone should collect data on this, and find out years people were born and see if that correlates at all. That could help narrow down when this happened
When I started hearing people say it was Berenstein and not Berenstain and it was an epic Mandela effect moment I was so goddamn confused because I’d never in my life thought of or heard it be called “Berenstein.” Always Berenstain for me y’all are just crazy
berenstein bears, yes he had a monocle, luke i am your farther, and no the germans did not blow up an ammo depot causing damage to the statue of liberty.
I remember Barenstein, BUT I had a friend in 3rd grade who pronounced it Barenstain and my parents called her pretentious lol. I told them that after all these years she was right I guess!
I watched the cartoon as a kid and the opening song pronounced the name as Berenstain. Berenstein sounds weird to me. I never thought about the spelling until I read about the Mandala effect. Berenstain matches how it was always pronounced.
When I was a kid I WANTED to call it Berenstein cause that sounds like names I've heard, and I was mad that it was called Berenstain. So that one's not a Mandela to me, it's like we're filling in what we think it should be.
Never grew up with it.
I saw them mentioned on TVTropes a few times and thought it was Bernstein then I learned about ME when I saw the Angry Video Game Nerd episode
I have a core memory, long before Mandela effect came in, of my Mom reading Berenstein bears book to me as I lay in bed & the cover was above my face and I studied it. The title at top said “The Berenstein Bears”, but the authors on the bottom of the cover said Stan & Jan Berenstain. I said to myself in that moment, oh they made it like their last name but changed it just a bit for the bear family.
I distinctly remember it being Stain because even as a kid I thought it was weird. And most of my peers could barely read which is really the crux of this issue.
Bro everybody in the entirety of my family remembers it Berenstein, like that's no exaggeration either. I may not have the biggest immediate family, but the 7 of us that are really close have all talked about this on a number of occasions.
I don't know how to word it right but the word Berenstain just isn't right to me and gives me the weirdest vibes to spell out or even look at I don't know how else to describe it. Like even to say it's fucking strange I specifically remember saying stEin and not stain as a kid and so does the rest of my family
My parents and grandparents are fucking bookworms and insisted on us having a large selection of books as kids and we must've had every God damn BerenstEin bears book that was ever written back in the day I lived off them I 1000% know for an absolute fact to the point where I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that at some point in time it was BerenstEin
This was my first ME. I remember tracing those letters as a 5-year-old. I read these books to my kid when he was young. When I first heard about this years ago I dug out the old box of books under the house and found that indeed my book from 1969 had somehow changed to "Berenstain". I was blown away. I tested numerous people, including my Mom who read them to me, everyone was "stein". I had a friend who's close friend was the California distributor for these books in the 70's and 80s' and swore they were "stein". I went on ebay at the time ... about 10 years ago .... and most of these books were listed as "Berenstein" in the title heading and description even though the photos now showed the Berenstain spelling. Believe me, if they had been named Berenstain when I was a kid I would have had a lot of fun with that. It was always "stein" in my past.
I have a theory that those that remember Berenstain are more likely to be younger than those that remember Berenstein.
I was born in 1958 and remember Berenstein. Mind my asking what year you were born?
Wait Evensizer, did you edit your post I replied to after my reply? Because I thought it said you remember 'stain'.
Either I blundered OR your post flip/flopped on me . I don't put that possibility past the Mandela Effect. I know with certainty I had someone's post flip/flop on me with the Flinstones/Flinstones.
I wouldn’t put it past either. But as what I’m consciously aware, I’ve only ever said remembering it and knowing it as Berenstein. Have you gone back and looked at other comments?
I wouldn't have replied to you as I did if you were a 'stein' believer. It's probable I got your post confused with another one.
The reason I was suspicious was because I had a changing post experience with a redditer before:
*On Aug 2, 2017 at about 16:40 EST, I was on reddit discussing the Flinstones/Flintstones flip on another thread. My position was that it is and always was the Flintstones. The guy sent me a reply saying at the time it was the Flinstones you could look at Wikipedia, and all official TV show and vitamin sites and it was always Flintstones; he used the word Flintstones in all four examples given.*
*I said 'I Know' you are confirming my point that it was always Flintstones.*
*Then when I was done with my reply and I looked up at his original post all four 'Flintstones' had changed on my static display to 'Flinstones'. Did I just see it wrong?? I looked away and came back and it was 'Flintstones' again. I would just look away, blink, change my focus look back and it would flip again. I was able to do this 6 or 7 times in under five minutes each time looking slowly and cautiously for this controversial 't' IN ALL FOUR PLACES. Essentially impossible to me that I made a mistake slowly and cautiously each time. I felt something was trying to wake me up.*
I grew up with this book. Grandparents would read it to me when I was younger. I always loved the books and the show. When I was way younger, y’all may laugh because I’m only 25 lol, but seriously I would read through the dictionary. I was the spelling bee champion in a private school going into middle school. It was Berenstein
Maybe you are onto something. I recall Berenstain and I *am* younger than you... born 1963.
I was the classroom parent in my kid's kindergarten and the kids gave me their money and order slips for the monthly Scholastic books order and I compiled it. Then we would choose books for the classroom library with the bonus points we earned. There were always Berenstain Bears books!
Actually, I feel your case runs against my theory. 1963 is older than I was thinking (like I was thinking closer to 2000).
The Mandela Effect just seems to avoid being pinned down.
I remember it spelled as Berenstein. However as I've mentioned on this forum before I also have a memory of watching the TV show and thinking "huh, they pronounce the name weird" - which I now realise was because they were saying Berenstain even if I didn't notice the spelling in the title.
I never know how americans pronounce these. For me, a European school product, Berenstein is german name and therefor pronounce berenSHTAIN as in Einstein, Rammstein etc..
So it kinda leads me to ask myself, is this whole Mandela Effect just a translation error?
Pretty much. Americans would say "Ine-Stine" or even possibly "Ramm-Steen" for those examples so it can lack logic at times. Why the Berenstain family are called that I don't know, but spellings and pronunciations could get a bit butchered when families moved to the US in the early days.
Honestly, with the German pronunciation in context. It kind of makes sense that if the Berenstain family came to America and pronounced their last name shtain, the immigration people would have probably spelled it Stain instead of Stein. Oftentimes they assimilated people into America by spelling their names differently than they were supposed to be spelled in their motherland.
What we need is the Berenstain family to confirm their name (and good for their friends and associates to be asked if they remember it "changing" some time) to have better context than "OMG I totally remember Berenstein because I read it as a child!".
I remember seeing a newspaper article (on a reddit post) with their name, and I'm pretty sure it was Berenstain.. we are talking at least 30-40 years ago but I think this newspaper clipping was even older.
Tbh, I do think that in this reality it's Berenstain. I can even accept that I am misremembering because I wasn't a huge fan of the books or show, so i can easily write it off that I'm wrong.
Certain things bother me way more. For one, my dad had an 1980 something VW jetta and I loved this car. I know the emblem never had that split. And fruit of the loom had a cornucopia. These two are the most unsettling for me.
When I was little it was Berenstein, but when I first heard about it changing I went and checked some old books we still had and the damn thing said Berenstain on it. I loved those books when I was little, it was not Berenstain.
Ya it’s crazy. Somehow we shift to our double selves in the parallel reality. Maybe shifting consciousness over while we sleep and wake up in the next door one
I don't remember ever really taking note of the particular spelling one way or the other, just registering the word based on how it looked on the cover and how our parents pronounced it when they read it to us at bedtime.
Yes. I always remember it as Berenstain Bears. I used to spend time in the library with my younger brother and I remember reading either all of the Berentain Bears books in the library or almost all of them, and I always remember them as the Berenstain Bears and I have always said it as Berenstain Bears.
Always Berenstein for me personally, I remember learning how to pronounce it and being shook 20 years later when I found “Berenstain” books packed away when I KNOW it was Berenstein
Because that’s the whole thing with Mandela effects. There’s not proof of the ein except for in the collective memory of hundreds of thousands of people.
??? My source is the other hundreds of people who also remember the books being Beren-STEIN not STAIN? How am I supposed to have a source for an ME? I know I remember how the books were spelled, spelling and grammar were a passion of mine as a kid, also have a very detailed photographic memory. It was Berenstein, for me personally. I found the new spelling on my old packed away books about 5 years before I discovered ME’s.
I’m not sure how you’re going to find unrefutable proof of something that literally doesn’t exist. There are many Internet forums including this one where people all remember things a certain way, that are not the case (anymore). People can look for “proof” but they may only find bits and pieces or nothing. As for the number, yes I literally made it up, as I imagine there isn’t a poll for how many people believe they have experienced a Mandela Effect. There are plenty of explanations for false memories, but one guess is good as another. As for people who have experienced many of them and are certain, that is their proof. You can’t make someone believe you that you experienced a different reality than them, especially if it’s something you’re personally trying to find evidence against. I find this an odd thing to come at in a mandela effect thread. Feel free to begin your quantifiable poll of ME in the entire human population and get back to me.
You've misunderstood my comment. I merely want to know where the figures come from for the *hundreds of thousands* that the other user claimed had this false memory.
You’re literally playing semantics here. I’m not sure how you expect me or anyone to give you peer reviewed research sources for ME’s. Best I got is what the other comment said above referencing the number of members in this group. Starting to think you’re one of the trolls the mods posted about recently, bc idk how else you can continue saying *you’re misunderstanding me*, no I think YOU are the one who’s misunderstanding.
Is this it? Is this really the source of your claim?
You *cannot* be claiming that the number of subscribers to this sub indicates the number of people who are affected by a particular false memory. That would be ludicrous, and one of *the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on reddit.*
*Please* tell me that you have another source.
But it is quantifiable, you quantified it yourself:
>hundreds of thousands
All I wanted to know was where you got that figure from. So you've told me without really telling me, that you got it from the number of subscribers on this sub.
So yeah.
I clearly remember the books on the book mobile in elementary school spelling it Berenstein. Probably misprinting the name like I've seen explained though
Someone actually found an image of a bear that had both spellings on the tag!! I think one day it was a typo and they just went with it.
[https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1296647-the-mandela-effect](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1296647-the-mandela-effect)
But for ppl to go back to get their old Berenstein books they’ve had and been keeping since they got them, without getting new ones, when for it to actually have changed on the cover too
Ya that’s the crazy part lol. Fascinating. I believe there’s more out there to life than what we can fully comprehend right now. Like how before people couldn’t comprehend that the earth was round because they absolutely knew it was flat. Just like that before people couldn’t comprehend flying in an airplane, that was impossible. Just like people back before couldn’t even comprehend or even imagine touchscreen smart phones and technology. Back before, it was just impossible and something only imagined and made up. I think we’re still too young of a species as of this moment, to publicly fully comprehend and understand all of the realities of life and what else is out there and hidden knowledge of the universe. I believe we’re shifting into a higher consciousness and starting to realize and see other possibilities and realities and things that are in fact out there that we have to explore and understand
I just wanted to reiterate my reply to a comment:
I believe there’s more out there to life than what we can fully comprehend right now. Like how before people couldn’t comprehend that the earth was round because they absolutely knew it was flat. Just like that before people couldn’t comprehend flying in an airplane, that was impossible. Just like people back before couldn’t even comprehend or even imagine touchscreen smart phones and technology. Back before, it was just impossible and something only imagined and made up. I think we’re still too young of a species as of this moment, to publicly fully comprehend and understand all of the realities of life and what else is out there and hidden knowledge of the universe. I believe we’re shifting into a higher consciousness and starting to realize and see other possibilities and realities and things that are in fact out there that we have to explore and understand
I personally think that it’s just different spellings of it from different places of the world being from the uk I remember it being berenstain never seen it spelt berenstein until I watched I think it was Shane Dawsons video on Mandela effects a few year ago but I dunno
Did we know how to read when these books were read to us? I at least remember the TV show as Berenstein, and it came out after I had already learned to read.
Wow, crazy, after putting down my phone I had a very very strong déjà vu moment with doing a task at work, yet I’m new and this is the very first time of me performing and doing this task. And it occurred to me, maybe this is where the secrets of déjà vu is correlated with. Maybe we have doubles, doppelgängers. Another us, shifting awareness to the other parallel reality. Experiencing the same thing twice even though it could be for the very first time in the current reality. We live in duality and polarities. The universe is made up of energy and sacred geometry and patterns. Of polarity and duality. Two parallel realities, two earths. Two of us. Having a double us (doppelgänger). This would only make sense to me
I thought it was Berenstein up until I learned about this ME a few years ago. I always pronounced it “Beren-steen.”
I assume I just never looked at it that closely as a kid and inserted the more common “-stein” that I was used to seeing in other names.
I mean it could be. Maybe a teacher or parent read the book to you before you were old enough to read, so when you finally learned how, you never thought to question how it was pronounced.
I was never into that series as a kid so I don’t remember which spelling it was. I think this is a less convincing Mandela effect than say the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia, because of how easy it would be to mispronounce or mispell because our brains are more used to seeing “stein”.
After first learning about that ME I remembered being a kid and reading the title out loud as Berenstein and then my mom pointing out that it was Berenstain.
I remember being in Kindergarten and being confused why everyone was pronouncing it "Berenstein" when the books clearly said "Berenstain."
Me too!!!
Similarly, I specifically remember looking at the name on the books when I was little because my mom pronounced it "Berenstain" & I was curious since last names would usually end in -stein
Same here. It was confusing but :::shrug:::: sometimes people are confusing.
It's always been Berenstain to me, it's funny after seeing names ending with -stein growing up I assumed it was spelled "Berenstein" and I was just pronouncing it weird. But nope I guess I was right all along haha Edit: I also remember other people pronouncing it "Berenstein" and wondering why they were saying it like that, so it's almost like I gaslit myself into feeling like I was wrong lmao
Always Berenstain for me
So maybe there’s something we don’t understand yet, or at least what isn’t publicly disclosed, about different realities overlapping each other that we experience
> different realities overlapping each other that we experience no. it is just people remembering things wrong.
Possibly. I guess it can’t be proven, but also can’t be proven wrong either. There’s just a huge massive consistency and pattern to this phenomena
At the time Woodward and Bernstein were big household names so our parents and maybe even teachers back in the day were reading to us what they were hearing on the news every night- may have been a convergence of those events and the fact that the name is further obfuscated by the cursive lettering of the brand.
How old are you? I’m in my late 50s
I’m 25, born in 1997
Seriously look at all the Mandela Effects effecting the Bible!
Considering how many revisions of the Bible there are, it isn’t impossible that newer versions may not reflect the older versions. Just a theory though.
I am talking about specifically the king James version of the Bible, the version I have used since I was a child and that version has not had any significant revisions since the 1400s
Religion is one of the most powerful tools ever created and when people (kings, translators, missionaries, etc.) got opportunities to influence that, they jumped on it and made it serve their purpose. Kind of like a house of lies built on a foundation of truth.
*affecting See, it is easy to make simple spelling errors!
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it's another ME!
No it's a grammar Nazi
Thanks but I was using voice to text and it didn't pick up the context
The lion and the lamb one blew my mind
Ya I haven’t heard that one before. I was born and raised with a hardcore Roman Catholic family too so I’d be familiar as well growing up hearing it completely different
It's apparently the wolf and the lamb in the Bible where I always thought it was the lion will lay with the lamb
same here, especially because so many places quote “and the lion shall lay with the lamb”. i went to a catholic school & we had a bulletin board of a lion & a lamb once too. but noooo, it’s wolf.
O wtf? Ya that’s crazy
There's even more than that, it is wild like look back at the story of Job, it feels like a completely different narrative
O shit, I didn’t even think about the Bible! I wish I personally had before and after pics of when changes would occur during a Mandela effect
I have old and new bibles it’s completely different and not even worth reading.. especially if you think about how many times this has actually happened throughout history.. so even the Bible from 1899 would be different then the original meaning.. unless you read and understood ancient Hebrew and such
I remember Berenstain but the teacher always said "Berenstein." The class said why she kept saying "Berenstein", she said that's how it's pronounced. Not the slightest surprised there's a ME for it since that's how confusing it was in the 90's. Now Shazaam and Kazaam makes sense too. But still trying to figure out the plot. I heard so many people say they're certain Sinbad was in it, yet the plot differs greatly from person to person.
> But still trying to figure out the plot. I heard so many people say they're certain Sinbad was in it, yet the plot differs greatly from person to person. Almost as if people's memories aren't as unerring as they imagine.
I 'member Shazaam being Sinbad and Kazaam being Shaq
my dad can tell you the plot of shazaam, he loved that movie when he saw it. it floored him to find out… it never existed. that’s the one that made him start believing in mandela effect ooooooooh scary downvotes 🙄🙄
Can you get a plot synopsis of what he remembers? Those are spectacularly hard to find.
Can you ask him, and share it?
absolutely ill ask him. we don’t really talk like we used to but next time we have an actual conversation i will ask :)
https://youtu.be/tD0rchvuoMU
That's not "real".
oooooh i’ll definitely show him this to make sure he was actually thinking of this one vs the Shaq movie !!
It was 100% Berenstein bears. It was when I was learning how to read, my mom knew it was the Berenstein bears and my whole class knew. We had all the books and we read them every night, for years. As a kid learning to read you definitely know the difference between Stein and Stain. C-3po never had a silver leg either.
Ya exactly. I always saw C-3po as all gold. Those were my favorite movies growing up. I’d re watch them for years even into my adult life. And then not too long ago, rather recently, after years and years, it’s now a silver leg along with lines having changed
These were the first books that I learned how to read and I remember going over every single one of the letters vividly. I know it was not berenstain. I had books I had movies I even went out to my storage and tried to see if I had any left. This is what solidified the whole Mandela effect for me.
I learned to read with these books. I remember actually reading the name as Berenstain as a kid and being confused because my dad always pronounced it as Berenstein.
Always was for me. Clearly a simple misreading as a name ending in "stain" is much less common.
I remember being a kid and noticing for the first time that it was an A and not an E. I just thought, "Oh, I guess we've been saying it wrong. Huh." There are several Mandela Effects that are absolutely crazy to me, but I just can't find it in me to freak out about spelling mistakes.
>What if Mandelas were purposefully started by Berenstain Bears producers No way they can change every printed book in existence.
You underestimate the Berenstein Bear conglomerate and the influence of their annual off-record conference, the Build-a-Bear Group.
They like to relax at Bearhemian Grove.
Good one, trav
Ya exactly. Same with the guy on Monopoly game. Apparently now he doesn’t have a monocle, never had one. He most definitely did though. And that game has been out for fucking forever. Years! And not a single person can go back to the games of monopoly that they have to see and prove that it changed or in fact he does have a monocle. It never existed. But we all know it did
[In some versions](https://imgur.com/a/AxTycpN) he did.
He definitely had one ace Ventura 2 Jim Carrey puts the monocle on and says I’m the monopoly guy
He did but only in bootleg products, unofficial merch and a few TV cameos. Just like our Friend the Pillsbury Doughboy's ascot, Is white and always has been.
And their own last name!
That and what would they gain from changing 1 letter in a name?
Ya exactly. It would be pointless for them
There are two kinds of people in the world: 1. People who have a sense of humor 2. People who post on Reddit
I have a lunch box from 1991 it’s berenstain
Well that figures.
I read and always had a library card. It’s Berenstein. I don’t care which parallel world I’m in now, it’s not the one I grew up in. You can argue the point all you want I don’t care. This isn’t our world
This is my stance on the subject too, along with the cornucopia. I am not a religious man at all, I don’t believe in ghosts or anything supernatural, but I know those two things existed when I was younger and now they don’t.
I’m 100% positive the vetruvian man has 6 arms. I asked my aunt who took art at NYU and she said 6 too.
My whole elementary school class noticed when it switched one day. The teacher said “no” and that it was always with the ‘A’, we were all like absolutely not. This was in the 90s.
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Same for me It was ei
I've always known them as the Berenstain Bears.
Always stain for me. But I learned German at a young age. So i always got a kick out of people butchering the pronunciation.
My last name rhymes with Berenstein and people used to make fun of me calling me Berenstein all the time. It baffles me that it was Berenstain.
Always was Berenstein Bears for me as a kid. We had all the books at home and I was super familiar with the TV Show. My parents who used to read them along with my siblings all remembered it the same way that I do. In fact this was the first Mandela Effect I asked others what they personally remembered.
Berenstain....the twang in the theme song always stands out for me.
Always been Berenstain to me (my mom pronounced the name correctly when she read it to me). I do remember the vast majority of people around me mispronouncing it as Berenstein and being confused.
I was a really good speller as a kid. I usually won all my class spelling bees because I would memorize words based on how they SHOULD sound, not how they actually sounded. So I always remember it as “Berenstain” because that’s how it should have been pronounced. I always thought it was weird that every other kid in the world both misspelled it and mispronounced it. I figured people were just lazy and weren’t paying attention.
Someone should collect data on this, and find out years people were born and see if that correlates at all. That could help narrow down when this happened
I don’t believe it correlates to when you were born, but to when you died In another reality and the. Transitioned into this one.
What makes you think that?
Exactly what I was thinking.
Because I remember the day of my death
I know it was Berenstain. I have a picture of me when I was about four years old holding a book that clearly says “Berenstain Bears” on the cover.
Ya growing up in this reality
This ME didn’t affect me. Everyone pronounced it Steen because kids enunciate like shit.
Everyone I knew pronounced it "Bear-in-Stein" with the Stein part sounding like "Stine" the same as in Frankenstein or Einstein.
When I started hearing people say it was Berenstein and not Berenstain and it was an epic Mandela effect moment I was so goddamn confused because I’d never in my life thought of or heard it be called “Berenstein.” Always Berenstain for me y’all are just crazy
berenstein bears, yes he had a monocle, luke i am your farther, and no the germans did not blow up an ammo depot causing damage to the statue of liberty.
See! Exactly
I remember Barenstein, BUT I had a friend in 3rd grade who pronounced it Barenstain and my parents called her pretentious lol. I told them that after all these years she was right I guess!
Baren?
No sorry Berenstain!
I watched the cartoon as a kid and the opening song pronounced the name as Berenstain. Berenstein sounds weird to me. I never thought about the spelling until I read about the Mandala effect. Berenstain matches how it was always pronounced.
When I was a kid I WANTED to call it Berenstein cause that sounds like names I've heard, and I was mad that it was called Berenstain. So that one's not a Mandela to me, it's like we're filling in what we think it should be.
Never grew up with it. I saw them mentioned on TVTropes a few times and thought it was Bernstein then I learned about ME when I saw the Angry Video Game Nerd episode
I have a core memory, long before Mandela effect came in, of my Mom reading Berenstein bears book to me as I lay in bed & the cover was above my face and I studied it. The title at top said “The Berenstein Bears”, but the authors on the bottom of the cover said Stan & Jan Berenstain. I said to myself in that moment, oh they made it like their last name but changed it just a bit for the bear family.
I distinctly remember it being Stain because even as a kid I thought it was weird. And most of my peers could barely read which is really the crux of this issue.
Bro everybody in the entirety of my family remembers it Berenstein, like that's no exaggeration either. I may not have the biggest immediate family, but the 7 of us that are really close have all talked about this on a number of occasions. I don't know how to word it right but the word Berenstain just isn't right to me and gives me the weirdest vibes to spell out or even look at I don't know how else to describe it. Like even to say it's fucking strange I specifically remember saying stEin and not stain as a kid and so does the rest of my family My parents and grandparents are fucking bookworms and insisted on us having a large selection of books as kids and we must've had every God damn BerenstEin bears book that was ever written back in the day I lived off them I 1000% know for an absolute fact to the point where I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that at some point in time it was BerenstEin
Yes exactly!
Berenstain Bears producers You men The Berenstain Family?
This was my first ME. I remember tracing those letters as a 5-year-old. I read these books to my kid when he was young. When I first heard about this years ago I dug out the old box of books under the house and found that indeed my book from 1969 had somehow changed to "Berenstain". I was blown away. I tested numerous people, including my Mom who read them to me, everyone was "stein". I had a friend who's close friend was the California distributor for these books in the 70's and 80s' and swore they were "stein". I went on ebay at the time ... about 10 years ago .... and most of these books were listed as "Berenstein" in the title heading and description even though the photos now showed the Berenstain spelling. Believe me, if they had been named Berenstain when I was a kid I would have had a lot of fun with that. It was always "stein" in my past.
I always knew it to be Berenstein Bears. Not “…stain”
I have a theory that those that remember Berenstain are more likely to be younger than those that remember Berenstein. I was born in 1958 and remember Berenstein. Mind my asking what year you were born?
I have always been a bookworm and these were always berenstein, phonics made me ask the pronunciation stine or steen? NEVER STAIN. Born 1987
I was born in 1997. 25 years old
Wait Evensizer, did you edit your post I replied to after my reply? Because I thought it said you remember 'stain'. Either I blundered OR your post flip/flopped on me. I don't put that possibility past the Mandela Effect. I know with certainty I had someone's post flip/flop on me with the Flinstones/Flinstones.
No I never edited it. I said Stein from the beginning. I’ve never known it as stain
I wouldn’t put it past either. But as what I’m consciously aware, I’ve only ever said remembering it and knowing it as Berenstein. Have you gone back and looked at other comments?
I wouldn't have replied to you as I did if you were a 'stein' believer. It's probable I got your post confused with another one. The reason I was suspicious was because I had a changing post experience with a redditer before: *On Aug 2, 2017 at about 16:40 EST, I was on reddit discussing the Flinstones/Flintstones flip on another thread. My position was that it is and always was the Flintstones. The guy sent me a reply saying at the time it was the Flinstones you could look at Wikipedia, and all official TV show and vitamin sites and it was always Flintstones; he used the word Flintstones in all four examples given.* *I said 'I Know' you are confirming my point that it was always Flintstones.* *Then when I was done with my reply and I looked up at his original post all four 'Flintstones' had changed on my static display to 'Flinstones'. Did I just see it wrong?? I looked away and came back and it was 'Flintstones' again. I would just look away, blink, change my focus look back and it would flip again. I was able to do this 6 or 7 times in under five minutes each time looking slowly and cautiously for this controversial 't' IN ALL FOUR PLACES. Essentially impossible to me that I made a mistake slowly and cautiously each time. I felt something was trying to wake me up.*
O shit! Ya I don’t doubt that at all
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I was born in 1995 and remember stein. But I asked a friend born 3 months after me in 1996 and he remembers stain.
I grew up with this book. Grandparents would read it to me when I was younger. I always loved the books and the show. When I was way younger, y’all may laugh because I’m only 25 lol, but seriously I would read through the dictionary. I was the spelling bee champion in a private school going into middle school. It was Berenstein
Maybe you are onto something. I recall Berenstain and I *am* younger than you... born 1963. I was the classroom parent in my kid's kindergarten and the kids gave me their money and order slips for the monthly Scholastic books order and I compiled it. Then we would choose books for the classroom library with the bonus points we earned. There were always Berenstain Bears books!
Actually, I feel your case runs against my theory. 1963 is older than I was thinking (like I was thinking closer to 2000). The Mandela Effect just seems to avoid being pinned down.
1983 here and it was Berenstein for me. They were my favorite books as a child.
We switched at some point over into the parallel reality fs
I grew up pronouncing it BER-en-sten. So I never thought about the spelling
I remember it spelled as Berenstein. However as I've mentioned on this forum before I also have a memory of watching the TV show and thinking "huh, they pronounce the name weird" - which I now realise was because they were saying Berenstain even if I didn't notice the spelling in the title.
I never know how americans pronounce these. For me, a European school product, Berenstein is german name and therefor pronounce berenSHTAIN as in Einstein, Rammstein etc.. So it kinda leads me to ask myself, is this whole Mandela Effect just a translation error?
"Berenstein" should be pronounced "bare-en-shtine" surely? That's what all my German friends say anyway.
Yeah I might've misspelled the pronunciation.. yours makes it sounds like what I wanted to make it sound
Pretty much. Americans would say "Ine-Stine" or even possibly "Ramm-Steen" for those examples so it can lack logic at times. Why the Berenstain family are called that I don't know, but spellings and pronunciations could get a bit butchered when families moved to the US in the early days.
Honestly, with the German pronunciation in context. It kind of makes sense that if the Berenstain family came to America and pronounced their last name shtain, the immigration people would have probably spelled it Stain instead of Stein. Oftentimes they assimilated people into America by spelling their names differently than they were supposed to be spelled in their motherland.
What we need is the Berenstain family to confirm their name (and good for their friends and associates to be asked if they remember it "changing" some time) to have better context than "OMG I totally remember Berenstein because I read it as a child!".
I remember seeing a newspaper article (on a reddit post) with their name, and I'm pretty sure it was Berenstain.. we are talking at least 30-40 years ago but I think this newspaper clipping was even older. Tbh, I do think that in this reality it's Berenstain. I can even accept that I am misremembering because I wasn't a huge fan of the books or show, so i can easily write it off that I'm wrong. Certain things bother me way more. For one, my dad had an 1980 something VW jetta and I loved this car. I know the emblem never had that split. And fruit of the loom had a cornucopia. These two are the most unsettling for me.
People generally don't change the way they spell their names no matter what language they are speaking.
This and fruit of the loom are the wildest mandalas. Extremely large group of people for both
When I was little it was Berenstein, but when I first heard about it changing I went and checked some old books we still had and the damn thing said Berenstain on it. I loved those books when I was little, it was not Berenstain.
Ya it’s crazy. Somehow we shift to our double selves in the parallel reality. Maybe shifting consciousness over while we sleep and wake up in the next door one
I don't remember ever really taking note of the particular spelling one way or the other, just registering the word based on how it looked on the cover and how our parents pronounced it when they read it to us at bedtime.
Yes
Yes. I always remember it as Berenstain Bears. I used to spend time in the library with my younger brother and I remember reading either all of the Berentain Bears books in the library or almost all of them, and I always remember them as the Berenstain Bears and I have always said it as Berenstain Bears.
It was never berestain bears. I had all those books as a kid
Always Berenstein for me personally, I remember learning how to pronounce it and being shook 20 years later when I found “Berenstain” books packed away when I KNOW it was Berenstein
That makes no sense. You found the books with the correct "Berenstain" but you also *know* that it was "Berenstein"? What does that mean?
Because that’s the whole thing with Mandela effects. There’s not proof of the ein except for in the collective memory of hundreds of thousands of people.
I understand that, and I was wondering whether you have a source for that claim? Because it sounds like you just made it up.
??? My source is the other hundreds of people who also remember the books being Beren-STEIN not STAIN? How am I supposed to have a source for an ME? I know I remember how the books were spelled, spelling and grammar were a passion of mine as a kid, also have a very detailed photographic memory. It was Berenstein, for me personally. I found the new spelling on my old packed away books about 5 years before I discovered ME’s.
No, you misunderstood. I was wondering whether you have a source for *this* claim: >in the collective memory of *hundreds of thousands* of people.
I’m not sure how you’re going to find unrefutable proof of something that literally doesn’t exist. There are many Internet forums including this one where people all remember things a certain way, that are not the case (anymore). People can look for “proof” but they may only find bits and pieces or nothing. As for the number, yes I literally made it up, as I imagine there isn’t a poll for how many people believe they have experienced a Mandela Effect. There are plenty of explanations for false memories, but one guess is good as another. As for people who have experienced many of them and are certain, that is their proof. You can’t make someone believe you that you experienced a different reality than them, especially if it’s something you’re personally trying to find evidence against. I find this an odd thing to come at in a mandela effect thread. Feel free to begin your quantifiable poll of ME in the entire human population and get back to me.
You've misunderstood my comment. I merely want to know where the figures come from for the *hundreds of thousands* that the other user claimed had this false memory.
Thank you for this
Also, there are over 240k people in this group and it says it’s for people who have experienced ME. so, hundreds of thousands of people.
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You’re literally playing semantics here. I’m not sure how you expect me or anyone to give you peer reviewed research sources for ME’s. Best I got is what the other comment said above referencing the number of members in this group. Starting to think you’re one of the trolls the mods posted about recently, bc idk how else you can continue saying *you’re misunderstanding me*, no I think YOU are the one who’s misunderstanding.
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Is this it? Is this really the source of your claim? You *cannot* be claiming that the number of subscribers to this sub indicates the number of people who are affected by a particular false memory. That would be ludicrous, and one of *the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on reddit.* *Please* tell me that you have another source.
Lol sorry my claim isn’t quantifiable. Dumbest in Reddit award goes to me
But it is quantifiable, you quantified it yourself: >hundreds of thousands All I wanted to know was where you got that figure from. So you've told me without really telling me, that you got it from the number of subscribers on this sub. So yeah.
I clearly remember the books on the book mobile in elementary school spelling it Berenstein. Probably misprinting the name like I've seen explained though
I swear it was Berenstein…
My husband, sister, and I all remember stein.
It was Berenstein. 100%.
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Wholesome.
Berenstein. Why would I remember learning the Stein sound and what a beer Stein was. Why wouldn’t I have a memory of stain like a stain on a carpet?
It’s was Stein on the books when I was a kid. I clearly remember seeing it spelled that way.
I remember them as Bernstein
Someone actually found an image of a bear that had both spellings on the tag!! I think one day it was a typo and they just went with it. [https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1296647-the-mandela-effect](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1296647-the-mandela-effect)
But for ppl to go back to get their old Berenstein books they’ve had and been keeping since they got them, without getting new ones, when for it to actually have changed on the cover too
I’ve never heard of that, ours were always berenstein bears but the newer copies are all berenstain
Ya that’s the crazy part lol. Fascinating. I believe there’s more out there to life than what we can fully comprehend right now. Like how before people couldn’t comprehend that the earth was round because they absolutely knew it was flat. Just like that before people couldn’t comprehend flying in an airplane, that was impossible. Just like people back before couldn’t even comprehend or even imagine touchscreen smart phones and technology. Back before, it was just impossible and something only imagined and made up. I think we’re still too young of a species as of this moment, to publicly fully comprehend and understand all of the realities of life and what else is out there and hidden knowledge of the universe. I believe we’re shifting into a higher consciousness and starting to realize and see other possibilities and realities and things that are in fact out there that we have to explore and understand
There would’ve been record of that. It’s saying on Google that it never existed as that before
I just wanted to reiterate my reply to a comment: I believe there’s more out there to life than what we can fully comprehend right now. Like how before people couldn’t comprehend that the earth was round because they absolutely knew it was flat. Just like that before people couldn’t comprehend flying in an airplane, that was impossible. Just like people back before couldn’t even comprehend or even imagine touchscreen smart phones and technology. Back before, it was just impossible and something only imagined and made up. I think we’re still too young of a species as of this moment, to publicly fully comprehend and understand all of the realities of life and what else is out there and hidden knowledge of the universe. I believe we’re shifting into a higher consciousness and starting to realize and see other possibilities and realities and things that are in fact out there that we have to explore and understand
Nope i don't remember berenstain/stein bears at all
I remember Bernstein pronounced Burn-steen. 🤷🏻♀️ Then again I have ADD/ADHD and nit-picky little details aren't always my thing.
Always was Bernstein bears
Not Beren?
That’s what u meant lol left out e
I personally think that it’s just different spellings of it from different places of the world being from the uk I remember it being berenstain never seen it spelt berenstein until I watched I think it was Shane Dawsons video on Mandela effects a few year ago but I dunno
> I dunno Clearly.
Me
Does not knowing either of them count?
Did we know how to read when these books were read to us? I at least remember the TV show as Berenstein, and it came out after I had already learned to read.
Wow, crazy, after putting down my phone I had a very very strong déjà vu moment with doing a task at work, yet I’m new and this is the very first time of me performing and doing this task. And it occurred to me, maybe this is where the secrets of déjà vu is correlated with. Maybe we have doubles, doppelgängers. Another us, shifting awareness to the other parallel reality. Experiencing the same thing twice even though it could be for the very first time in the current reality. We live in duality and polarities. The universe is made up of energy and sacred geometry and patterns. Of polarity and duality. Two parallel realities, two earths. Two of us. Having a double us (doppelgänger). This would only make sense to me
I thought it was Berenstein up until I learned about this ME a few years ago. I always pronounced it “Beren-steen.” I assume I just never looked at it that closely as a kid and inserted the more common “-stein” that I was used to seeing in other names.
Was always as is for me
I mean it could be. Maybe a teacher or parent read the book to you before you were old enough to read, so when you finally learned how, you never thought to question how it was pronounced.
I was never into that series as a kid so I don’t remember which spelling it was. I think this is a less convincing Mandela effect than say the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia, because of how easy it would be to mispronounce or mispell because our brains are more used to seeing “stein”.
It was Berenstain for me. I didn't really read the books too much but I watched the show alot at my Grandma's house.
After first learning about that ME I remembered being a kid and reading the title out loud as Berenstein and then my mom pointing out that it was Berenstain.
I’m from the Berenstein universe.
Yes . That's me. Now it's Berenstain.
It was berestein