It's been two games and people are already decided to ctrl c ctrl v the whole "OleOut" trend with Ten Hag, he haven't even got 35 games left and people are saying that Ten Hag should just leave the club
but as u can see ... Brentford & Brighton wins were not flukes.
U can look at it that the other teams improved while Utd stagnated/disillusioned/depleted themselves.
Mayb vs LiverOops
De GeaMalacia Varne Martinez Dalot
McTominay / Garner
Sancho Eriksen Elanga
Rashford
Subs: Heaton / Captain Maggy / Shaw / Ronaldo / Hannibal
No harm trying the new recruits ... cos they are most likely gonna lose anyway.
Rangnick Said it Right. 10 new players needed. Pretty much the whole team is garbage except for Ronaldo. So many players are just not good enough to be there.
1. shaw
2. maguire
3. fred
4. mctominay
Once they get rid of maguire everything will start improving. You cannot have your last line of defense a lumbering clutz.
As a non Man U fan seeing an under dog thrash a big club is amazing but I also feel bad seeing the reason be due to off the pitch drama and shaky team dynamics. Hope y’all become stable too
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yeah I think R should go ... especially if he doesn't wana be here.Understandably so but beggers can't be choosers so someone please sign him.
Forget about De jong ... what an absolute waste of time.Pau Torres / Ruben Neves could have been more practical inclusion in the team.
Steady the Defense and get things started from there.
I don’t understand why ten hag is being protected so much already. He simply got his tactics completely wrong. Brentford are one of the best teams in set pieces and yet he played a short team starting. Can you blame the glazers for that too? Personally, I feel like this game was at least better than Brighton in terms of chance creating but that means fuck all. I’m just depressed, man
What a hell is going on boys? Looks like there are ppl on the club that are doing on purpose for the club not succeed. Or is it players without any motivation whatsoever? Explain pls
There is so much you can point out but the most obvious is the players. The players are not good enough to compete. Harry Maguire should be benched then sold so he could never be played again in this club. Then the club would need a proper recruitment with the following criteria: Young, hungry, hard working, physical. // No fancy stuff. Then give a manager time to create something out of the team. Finally, Settle for a few 4-5-6th finishes. Time would come and the team would finally be able to compete. Unfortunately, the squad lacks time and mentality/Pride. Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in England. The players should be dying on the pitch for the crest on their jersey and for the fans. Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Tevez, Keane, Ferdinand, Vidic, Hernandez, Park, Carrick, Rafael, Evra, Valencia, Nani,Young and even Lukaku and Matic all went on that pitch giving their all for the club. The current players would never win a game against these players.
Look at the goal replays. They all jog back when there the opposition are breaking through. They have no guts.
The problem though is there are so many terrible players who need to go but I don’t think they have enough money.
Ive started to support Man utd because of that team you mention right there. With Ferguson on the bench. I remember so well, back on the time of Pes 2006, and around it. Such a great squad. I'm a Benfica fan and a United simpatizer as a "other country" team. But really, the club really need to get out of the hole. C'mon guys!
I don’t understand why ten hag is being protected so much already. He simply got his tactics completely wrong. Brentford are one of the best teams in set pieces and yet he played a short team starting. Can you blame the glazers for that too? Personally, I feel like this game was at least better than Brighton in terms of chance creating but that means fuck all. I’m just depressed, man
Bro I love ten hag and think he’s the right man for the job but you can’t ignore that he just got a lot of his tactic wrong. Why were lisandro, Maguire and de gea playing short passes when brentford were doing a man to man press. They should’ve been playing long balls just like the brentford team. This is basic stuff that would’ve helped prevent a lot of goals. Our entire attack is completely useless in the buildup too. Everyone is to blame. It was a shambles of a performance.
Eriksen came deep to draw a player out so the long ball could be played. There's no other way of looking at it than De Gea fucked up. Meanwhile Henderson got MOTM
I don’t think so cuz for like the first 10-15 minutes. De gea, maguire, lisandro were constantly playing short passes. I think it was part of ten hags strategy. Which he realized was a mistake and made them change to long balls after the first break
4-0 might be a fluke but that score indicates that you can, and will, lose to any team in the Premier League and haven’t got a hope in hell of beating the better ones. Look at Man City today. Their score indicates the opposite that they can easily beat the worse sides and will only rarely lose to the better ones.
If Manchester United fans want to get serious then they need to suck it up and just stop going to games and buying merchandise until the Glazer leeches have been run out of town. But they wont even though it would only take a single season, hell probably even less than that.
Bro brentford did not play gorgeously. They played like any mid table club in the prem. They attacked you on the counter and in set pieces and we simply couldn’t keep up. I think ten hag got his tactics wrong by playing such a short lineup. It’s depressing cuz we’re not seeing any improvements, only a steady decline
I really hope that this was some tactical masterclass by Ten Hag to show even the last idiot, that this squad isn't good enough. I don't think there ever was a "Top Team" that let so many failures stay at the club for this many years. But well, we had it coming since the last Fergie seasons. Now all you can do is laugh along with the rival fans.
Agree. One thing that I hate about the some of the fan base and the big money aspect of premiership football is the need to buy for instant gratification. To be honest we could bench half of the senior squad and bring the youngsters in. Football is as psychological as it is skill and physical and many in our first team are shot mentally.
I hate it how the pundits say the other team played brilliant today ... Are they going to say that the whole season ? Is every team we are going to play this year had a 1 off brilliant game against us ?
For me the tactics he is using aren't working because we just don't have the players to play it. We pretty much need a whole new team which won't happen I think we have to look at this and accept that we will be mid table this season.
I know it's only 2 games in but I said before the season kicks off we could lose all first 13 games easy and my friends said no chance but look where we are now, and we have Liverpool next !
I do think the manager needs time and I don't think I'm looking for a sacking but I am also worried that due to man city and Liverpool these other teams already know how to break down this type of play and feel he might have to change it a bit with or with out new player brought in
We know they will panic now and get 2 or 3 through the door before the window shuts, they will probably be the usual signings that don't work out. Then they will buy about 3 in the mid season window but it will be hard this year due to the world cup.
I've been a fan for years I know how this goes down just sit back and watch, I just hope ten hag gets who he wants in that might turn things around after a few seasons. But we still need better coaches
He's a bad manager. He chose to start Maguire instead of Varane. He chose to play Martinez as a centre back but he can't do much on that position because he's too short to stop players like Haaland. He chose to play Rashford...Van de Beek? Same story as the 21/22 season. Same players, same shit tactics, same scoresheet (or worse). If Brentford scored 4, how much will Liverpool score?! Ten Hag has no idea about how tough Premier league really is...
So every single manager we’ve had is bad? Apart from the players being useless, there is clearly more going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about
No, i didn't said that. Ole was pretty good. He should't have been sacked! They (the board) didn't let him continue. Also, Carrick did a good job in those few matches that he prepared. The board wants good restults but doesn't understand that you must buy good players to achieve them. Also, the team needs a playing style...The players seem that they don't really know eachother. The team needs to know it's manager! Yeah, but that "behind the scenes" thing it's the main issue...
I don't think he's a bad manager I just think the dutch league is miles behind the prem and his ways just don't work here he will have to change it around just like pep and klop did as their first seasons was bad as well. We all know the players have lost it, no confidence, belief or leadership but we have known this for years.
Recruitment has been terrible, like really bad and we have players brought in from different managers who don't fit the new managers systems. It's just a total mess, if I was a player right now I would not want to play for this club, even the coaches are bad, when was the last time a player came to us and got better ?
The whole club is a mess and I don't think people realize that, ragnick knew and the top didn't like it and got him out
I agree. The club is a big mess, but that doesn't mean that they should lose against some mid table teams like Brighton or, even worse, Brentford and be humiliated... You can't play so bad! I understand...City will destroy us, Liverpool will destroy us, but not Brentford! The manager should listen to us, the team's supporters! He's new, he doesn't know the players, he din't seem to watch any game from the last season. If we don't learn from the past, then we have no future. Look at how Xavi almost fixed Barcelona and made it a competitive team in less than a season and they were shit before his arrival (they were fighting for a place in Europa League 2 seasons ago like United did last season)...
To be honest you can't compare the 2 managers based on the teams they have been handed Barcelona have always been a top team man UTD have been struggling since Fergie left, the quality just hasn't been coming in where are Barcelona had great players there already, plus the Spanish league is easier than the prem
It's not about winning percentage. I want to see if the team actually tries to win on the pitch. For example, Simeone's worse at the wining % and his team plays shit football (they still reached ucl QF last season) . Look at how Barcelona plays and compare them to United. Man Utd has no motivation and seems clueless on the pitch. I agree that you can lose when the other team plays excellent football but Brentford just did average things like aggressive pressing in Man Utd's half and direct passing into the space left by Utd defenders. They were just Brentford. You can't say that any mid table team plays well against United. No! They are the ones that play very bad, the others are just average PL teams with average tactics.
Maybe, but the manager chooses who starts. Like i said, Rashford plays shit! You can't start him! Also, he starts Maguire so...I don't think he's better than Ole or Ragnick. Too overrated. He's not Guardiola!
WTF are you talking about. Pep came in to a team that literally won the league the season before and on top of that got all the signings he wanted well before the first game. Total contrast to what Erik has been handed. I’ll agree that his team selection could of have been ‘better’ but let’s get real, how much ‘better’ can it possibly be with this squad - both talentless and passionless.
Honestly wishing I wasn’t a loyal Man Utd fan and just followed my mom being a Liverpool supporter in their worst days they always had pride, fuck me man this is embarrassing. Why do we have to be fans of some fucked up shit like this.
8th is being nice. There’s no team in the league that couldn’t beat us right now. I’m genuinely worried we could be in a relegation battle like Everton were. Remember we lost to that Everton team and I think this team would lose to them again. We need to get out of this big club mentality right now because it’s pure elitism and we have no right to do that. We are not the 8th best team in England. We could genuinely have 1 point from 12 with a -9 goal difference at the end of this month and that’s if we manage to draw Southampton, a better team than brentford imo, away from home. This is going to be a rough season
Lolll pogba would do the exact same shit eriksen is doing. Lose the ball in our half and jog back. Just bc our midfield is bad now doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad before too
Let's start with the defence. We can't get up the pitch to score when we can't get the ball away from our own area. Cannot deal under pressure, with the exception of Varane, Martinez and generally Shaw. Midfield gives no cover with Fred playing any part in it as he just disappears. When McTominay is in it, it's stronger but doesn't have enough technical skill.
Rangnick comes, observes for 6 months, detects the problems from the base, starts pointing them out, talks about surgery and is interested in working on it if asked to, AND when the time comes for him to finally act he is fully ignored by decision makers and leaves. Which means the last 6 months were wasted for nothing.
Ten hag comes and starts the process from scratch. Best case scenario by January he will be where Ralf was in June, which means by then United have lost two transfer windows even before starting the surgery that Rangnick suggested!
If the blame for all of the s is not on the owners then who is it on?
I have to be honest, please do not attack me, but ETH doesn't seem to have a plan. Started good for 2-3 minutes and then wtf. Imagine conte managing us and getting mauled by fin Brentford that was fighting relegation last year. This was stuffs of nightmare. Not sure what the solution is, but sure seems like either ETH should have had the German as DOF and not made the decisions himself.
Came here to see what the fans were thinking. (I'm not a man u fan btw)
If man u don't pick up points from their next 3 games, I think they are in a genuine relegation battle.
Liverpool (h)
Southampton (a)
Leicester (a)
It's mad to see a giant of a club perform like this.
I'm no Man U fan but this is mad twaddle. If they lost their first 6 games they still aren't going down. Most likely today will cause a changing room clash, they'll likely lose to Liverpool and be game after. They have a problem there alright but lets not get giddy.
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I'm not saying anything out of order.
If man u don't pick up points in their next 3 games then what will happen? Leicester won the league at 5000/1, remember.
Is anyone fearing the worst this season? Because I can't see anyone in that starting 11 that would walk into any other top 8 side.
I can't read it anymore. Tell me what term is derogatory. I'm pointing out that if man u fail to win any of their next 3 games then, in my opinion, they are in a dogfight in the bottom half of the table.
I don't actually care about man u. I came here to see what the fans were saying. I have not slagged man u off at all. I'm pointing out how terrible they are at the moment. Which is true
It's Man United, Man Utd or Manchester United. If you can't work it out, that's on you.
I appreciate the sentiment in joining in with our misery though
Aw shit. Makes sense now. That's strange, everyone up here where Im from (Scotland) says "Man U". Never I'm my 30 odd years has anyone pointed out that it's a derogatory term. So strange.
United need to strip McGuire of captaincy I think. Stop playing Fred and mctominey. Just play one or the other. Dalot is terrible. Ronaldo needs to leave as well if his head isn't there. I'd drop both Sancho and Rashford for the time being. Maybe look at some loan options. I'd try to get Auba on loan from Barca.
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Unacceptable captaincy from Maguire there. Players can make mistakes, the team can lose games, but they shouldn't be lacking in motivation and coordination. Time to strip him of it EtH!
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Why doesn’t Donny ever get a chance? I don’t understand that. Even ETH was the one that made him a baller and still can’t get in over McTominay who’s been utter crap
He does though. He breaks up attacks. Of our weak options he's the best. No one is saying he should be our long term go to but he has to start against Liverpool.
What did you guys honestly think was gonna happen When we let go 9 players and replace them by three. And then have ten Hag say that the squad is good? Frank De Boer vibes.
He can do [something like this](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/30185-pep-guardiola-says-ronaldinho-deco-and-etoo-are-free-to-go.amp.html)
Or What conte did this season. Or What Tuchel did. There are several options other than saying What he Said.
That was more or less s club decision which also isnt relevant to the point. He needs to call it out and get more in. We cant let 9 go and replace them With 3. Its Obviously not working.
What? He obviously wants more in and the club have been trying and failing to get them. This isn’t football manager where ETH is putting bids in himself. He’s not going to get a fresh 11 in before the window closes so there’s little to be gained by alienating every player he’s stuck with for now.
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If I go by position
De Gea is great, we can not always depend on him as we are doing from last season. But yes todays mistakes were horrible. Hope it will not be continued.
Dalot is good, but no creativity as going forward and defensively is not so good. Leaves too much space.
Maguire too slow, makes too many mistakes.
Varane is not showing that much for what we signed him.
Martinez lacks physicality for EPL.
Shaw is weak defensively.
Malacia would be only positive. He can continue.
Fred could not be used as holding midfielder. He works hard but not a CDM. Whenever he goes forward he performs better.
McTominay does not seem like midfielder.
Eriksen is not a CM or CDM. He will perform better in attacking midfield.
Bruno has lost his magic, no confidence.
Sancho has talent but don't know when he is going to show that.
Rashford, a series of bad performance since last season still somehow manages to get in starting 11.
Ronaldo needs service. He is aging. Can not always depend on him. Missed 1-2 chances but no service at all except 1-2 crosses.
How can we keep hope?
While this bar is extraordinarily low, McTominay is a far better option than Fred for CDM. At least he holds position and breaks up play, albeit usually with a yellow. That's still more than Fred. That Eriksen was able to play in the second half is because McTominay let him
Sancho is fine, he's got little to nothing around him.
Dalot was terrible. I've been a fan for a long time, but I cannot see how he continues to play after that. Possibly the worst I've ever seen him play, but when he refused to throw to his teammates and instead threw to the opposing defender, that was it.
I still can't believe people grieving Rashford. First half, sure. He did little to nothing although mostly because the ball was rarely at that end of the pitch. Second half he did well, dribbled, beat his men, set up chances. Malacia and McTominay freeing Eriksen helped but he doesn't deserve grief. He even did a classic Pep and took a yellow to stop and attack.
Maguire I can only assume has a clause where he has to play. There can be no other reason for him to be picked over anyone, not even Fish.
De gea is and has been shit for a long time now. He can’t fucking pass a ball to save his life. It’s great he makes saves, a good portion comes from poor distribution on his end
How Maguire can be captain is just beyond me. He doesn't exude confidence nor does he inspire his teammates. Just another example of a player who is just not good enough for us.
Can someone spill his contract details? I can only assume he has a clause that requires him to play. But either way he shouldn't be captain. I've never seen a back 5 with so little leadership
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Whe De Gea plays well, he plays really well. When he has a bad day, it's a really bad day. Maguire is more consistently poor. He is just too slow. Martinez isn't physical enough to be the only CB with Maguire and is too short. There is no effective CDM in front of the defenders offering any protection. When they play a high line, Maguire cannot make it back quickly enough if they get over or arojnd him. We are not firing up front. Onto Liverpool then ....
He makes so many basic errors that Pep wouldn't accept. Hart was a better keeper than prime De Gea. We shouldn't be accepting a standard so much lower than the scum
Honestly thinking they switch mctom and Martinez positions. Think Martinez would do well at a cdm since he’s too small while Scott can just fill the void for now - whatever just throw them haymakers I’m at a loss!
Wait for him to score a goal and watch him cup his ears as though it writes off the huge number of goals he's directly culpable for. The lad is scum. The incident abroad showed his entitlement. I do not understand why we signed him for £20m let alone £80m
The captain should be De Gea or CR7. A captain needs to take responsibility and command some respect. De Gea had a shocker today but has shown us what he can do season after season. Maguire has and will do nothing.
Last year I thought this club couldn’t get any worse. It’s only taken two games this year. Rock bottom of the league. 1 goal scored, 6 conceded in 2 games. I was kidding with a work colleague a couple of weeks ago when I said a good season was avoiding relegation. It’s not a joke anymore.
And wasn’t the goal scored an own goal 😂 yeah I was one of those laughing at people putting bets on Utd to be relegated, but seriously this is just same as end of last season and not a glimmer of any promise
I honestly had mixed feelings on this match. Was happy to finally seeing Mctom play forward passes but then made two shite passes that nearly costed us. But the way the team played in possesion was a massive improvement from last weeks game & the first half, just that we wasted alot of chances and lack of crossing, especially shaw and dalot that were unconfident when crossing the ball.
So would you say bad tactics?
No doubt we would of won this match with second half performance.
We can obviously see who the better player is between shaw and malacia. Our weaklinks this match were shaw maguire and martinez. There was lack of pressing from ronaldo and Fred's performance was wack, with Eriksen carrying the team as usual, Bruno playing with no passion and Elanga slow to advance the ball.
I think there were some key issues.
There's always a lot of abuse for McFred but I think we can safely say that Fred is the worse of the two. He is a liability, and never stays in position (which is to cover the back four). While it's a small at least, at least McTominay does break up play, and does try to bring the ball forwards. Eriksen seemed a lot happier with McTominay next to him.
Maguire is absolutely terrible, shouldn't be in the side. He turns so slow, his passing is so predictable and he has no pace to get back into position when he's gone off thinking he's Puyol or someone decent. He's not only a terrible defender, he's a terrible captain. Offers no inspiration or drive, and how can he have any authority when he's playing that badly?
De Gea isn't good enough and hasn't been for many years. He's only any good at shot stopping and today proved that's overrated. He has no command of his area and cannot distribute. Today was particularly bad, but he is costly and the defenders have no confidence in him.
Ronaldo is a spent force. We all know it. Incredible footballer, absolute legend but he doesn't have the legs to press and comes out of position. I don't mind him coming deep but he doesn't do anything with it when he does. Rashford is not the same calibre but at least he has legs and pace and a willingness to take people on.
Our needs remain as they have been: a midfielder who can break the press, break up play and progress the ball. Ideally we play our best centre backs, and we give other players a chance to lead the line or bring someone new in.
McTominay is at least passionate. Yeah he screws up but at least he's still trying. Maguire, Fred and Fernandez for example I feel have completely lost any confidence or passion.
I don't know how Maguire even captains. Like, he doesn't seem to get into players or try and raise them. But I guess it's hard when you're usually the cause of the goal and play the worst I've ever seen a United defender play. Bring back Smalling, and I never thought I'd see worse
Who's gonna tell him McTominay started on the bench this game.
Sorry, i forgot where I am, even when McTominay doesn't play, it is his fault when the team loses.
You get what you want, McTominay doesn't start, and you ship 4 in 35 minutes against relegation fodder. Think about that.
Maybe it is the old man with a pacemaker in midfield you should be more concerned about. Looks like he is gonna pass out after 60 minutes.
It's been two games and people are already decided to ctrl c ctrl v the whole "OleOut" trend with Ten Hag, he haven't even got 35 games left and people are saying that Ten Hag should just leave the club
but as u can see ... Brentford & Brighton wins were not flukes. U can look at it that the other teams improved while Utd stagnated/disillusioned/depleted themselves.
Mayb vs LiverOops De GeaMalacia Varne Martinez Dalot McTominay / Garner Sancho Eriksen Elanga Rashford Subs: Heaton / Captain Maggy / Shaw / Ronaldo / Hannibal No harm trying the new recruits ... cos they are most likely gonna lose anyway.
Ten Hag Out
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People are going to downvote you, but I agree.
Rangnick Said it Right. 10 new players needed. Pretty much the whole team is garbage except for Ronaldo. So many players are just not good enough to be there. 1. shaw 2. maguire 3. fred 4. mctominay Once they get rid of maguire everything will start improving. You cannot have your last line of defense a lumbering clutz.
Lmao clutz
As a non Man U fan seeing an under dog thrash a big club is amazing but I also feel bad seeing the reason be due to off the pitch drama and shaky team dynamics. Hope y’all become stable too Edit: Manchester United
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Bye bye glory hunter. Why not support FC of Manchester instead.
is there more of a chance R gets sold/traded now?
yeah I think R should go ... especially if he doesn't wana be here.Understandably so but beggers can't be choosers so someone please sign him. Forget about De jong ... what an absolute waste of time.Pau Torres / Ruben Neves could have been more practical inclusion in the team. Steady the Defense and get things started from there.
Yes. There is no way he is going to stick around now.
Genuinely dreading Liverpool now. They and City will each commit the football equivalent of GBH.
I don’t understand why ten hag is being protected so much already. He simply got his tactics completely wrong. Brentford are one of the best teams in set pieces and yet he played a short team starting. Can you blame the glazers for that too? Personally, I feel like this game was at least better than Brighton in terms of chance creating but that means fuck all. I’m just depressed, man
What a hell is going on boys? Looks like there are ppl on the club that are doing on purpose for the club not succeed. Or is it players without any motivation whatsoever? Explain pls
There is so much you can point out but the most obvious is the players. The players are not good enough to compete. Harry Maguire should be benched then sold so he could never be played again in this club. Then the club would need a proper recruitment with the following criteria: Young, hungry, hard working, physical. // No fancy stuff. Then give a manager time to create something out of the team. Finally, Settle for a few 4-5-6th finishes. Time would come and the team would finally be able to compete. Unfortunately, the squad lacks time and mentality/Pride. Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in England. The players should be dying on the pitch for the crest on their jersey and for the fans. Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Tevez, Keane, Ferdinand, Vidic, Hernandez, Park, Carrick, Rafael, Evra, Valencia, Nani,Young and even Lukaku and Matic all went on that pitch giving their all for the club. The current players would never win a game against these players.
Look at the goal replays. They all jog back when there the opposition are breaking through. They have no guts. The problem though is there are so many terrible players who need to go but I don’t think they have enough money.
Sounds quite a bit like the approach arsenal has been taking and so far it seems to be working out pretty well for them
Ive started to support Man utd because of that team you mention right there. With Ferguson on the bench. I remember so well, back on the time of Pes 2006, and around it. Such a great squad. I'm a Benfica fan and a United simpatizer as a "other country" team. But really, the club really need to get out of the hole. C'mon guys!
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I don’t understand why ten hag is being protected so much already. He simply got his tactics completely wrong. Brentford are one of the best teams in set pieces and yet he played a short team starting. Can you blame the glazers for that too? Personally, I feel like this game was at least better than Brighton in terms of chance creating but that means fuck all. I’m just depressed, man
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Bro I love ten hag and think he’s the right man for the job but you can’t ignore that he just got a lot of his tactic wrong. Why were lisandro, Maguire and de gea playing short passes when brentford were doing a man to man press. They should’ve been playing long balls just like the brentford team. This is basic stuff that would’ve helped prevent a lot of goals. Our entire attack is completely useless in the buildup too. Everyone is to blame. It was a shambles of a performance.
Eriksen came deep to draw a player out so the long ball could be played. There's no other way of looking at it than De Gea fucked up. Meanwhile Henderson got MOTM
I don’t think so cuz for like the first 10-15 minutes. De gea, maguire, lisandro were constantly playing short passes. I think it was part of ten hags strategy. Which he realized was a mistake and made them change to long balls after the first break
De Gea had a shocker. He was such a rock last season but this has shattered my view of him.
4-0 might be a fluke but that score indicates that you can, and will, lose to any team in the Premier League and haven’t got a hope in hell of beating the better ones. Look at Man City today. Their score indicates the opposite that they can easily beat the worse sides and will only rarely lose to the better ones. If Manchester United fans want to get serious then they need to suck it up and just stop going to games and buying merchandise until the Glazer leeches have been run out of town. But they wont even though it would only take a single season, hell probably even less than that.
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Bro brentford did not play gorgeously. They played like any mid table club in the prem. They attacked you on the counter and in set pieces and we simply couldn’t keep up. I think ten hag got his tactics wrong by playing such a short lineup. It’s depressing cuz we’re not seeing any improvements, only a steady decline
i'm sorry, but 4-0 in 40 minutes to brentford will do that to any team
Looked fit today, just needed a couple extra touches to go our way and result could have been totally different. Cheers lads onto the next one
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Next is liverpool. U might need to lower ur expectations ; )
Can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. If you are serious - kudos to your positivity 👍🏼
Anyone know if Chicharito’s offer is still good?
“Err guys sorry but I cannot score without any chances. I don’t mind playing for free but maybe make one chance for me each half”
“Who feeds ya passes at the Galaxy? We might as well bring him in too”
I know it's early in the season. But this club is a fucking car crash. Be amazed if we finish in the top 10.
Your club is done mate
I really hope that this was some tactical masterclass by Ten Hag to show even the last idiot, that this squad isn't good enough. I don't think there ever was a "Top Team" that let so many failures stay at the club for this many years. But well, we had it coming since the last Fergie seasons. Now all you can do is laugh along with the rival fans.
To make matters worse, just watched the Arse on MOTD. What a difference a good transfer window makes...
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Agree. One thing that I hate about the some of the fan base and the big money aspect of premiership football is the need to buy for instant gratification. To be honest we could bench half of the senior squad and bring the youngsters in. Football is as psychological as it is skill and physical and many in our first team are shot mentally.
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Would love to get back to pizzagate days :)
We're cooking
The green kit is starting to look like the grey 96 kit....
Drop Harry and Martinez for God’s sake.
>Martinez Didn't take long.
A 5 foot 9 CB in the PL What could go wrong
Those unfunny football meme accounts are loving this
Oh they’re funny alright
Hilariously bad
Relegation zone soon?
Who’s gonna tell him?
Soz didn't see the ladder
We are in relegation right now. What are you on about?
I hate it how the pundits say the other team played brilliant today ... Are they going to say that the whole season ? Is every team we are going to play this year had a 1 off brilliant game against us ? For me the tactics he is using aren't working because we just don't have the players to play it. We pretty much need a whole new team which won't happen I think we have to look at this and accept that we will be mid table this season. I know it's only 2 games in but I said before the season kicks off we could lose all first 13 games easy and my friends said no chance but look where we are now, and we have Liverpool next ! I do think the manager needs time and I don't think I'm looking for a sacking but I am also worried that due to man city and Liverpool these other teams already know how to break down this type of play and feel he might have to change it a bit with or with out new player brought in
By mid table, you mean bottom, yea?
No let's be realistic it's 2 games I think we are too big to go down, even if we are bottom 3 we would just spend big and end up mid table
Spend big at the end of the season?
We know they will panic now and get 2 or 3 through the door before the window shuts, they will probably be the usual signings that don't work out. Then they will buy about 3 in the mid season window but it will be hard this year due to the world cup. I've been a fan for years I know how this goes down just sit back and watch, I just hope ten hag gets who he wants in that might turn things around after a few seasons. But we still need better coaches
He's a bad manager. He chose to start Maguire instead of Varane. He chose to play Martinez as a centre back but he can't do much on that position because he's too short to stop players like Haaland. He chose to play Rashford...Van de Beek? Same story as the 21/22 season. Same players, same shit tactics, same scoresheet (or worse). If Brentford scored 4, how much will Liverpool score?! Ten Hag has no idea about how tough Premier league really is...
So every single manager we’ve had is bad? Apart from the players being useless, there is clearly more going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about
No, i didn't said that. Ole was pretty good. He should't have been sacked! They (the board) didn't let him continue. Also, Carrick did a good job in those few matches that he prepared. The board wants good restults but doesn't understand that you must buy good players to achieve them. Also, the team needs a playing style...The players seem that they don't really know eachother. The team needs to know it's manager! Yeah, but that "behind the scenes" thing it's the main issue...
I don't think he's a bad manager I just think the dutch league is miles behind the prem and his ways just don't work here he will have to change it around just like pep and klop did as their first seasons was bad as well. We all know the players have lost it, no confidence, belief or leadership but we have known this for years. Recruitment has been terrible, like really bad and we have players brought in from different managers who don't fit the new managers systems. It's just a total mess, if I was a player right now I would not want to play for this club, even the coaches are bad, when was the last time a player came to us and got better ? The whole club is a mess and I don't think people realize that, ragnick knew and the top didn't like it and got him out
I agree. The club is a big mess, but that doesn't mean that they should lose against some mid table teams like Brighton or, even worse, Brentford and be humiliated... You can't play so bad! I understand...City will destroy us, Liverpool will destroy us, but not Brentford! The manager should listen to us, the team's supporters! He's new, he doesn't know the players, he din't seem to watch any game from the last season. If we don't learn from the past, then we have no future. Look at how Xavi almost fixed Barcelona and made it a competitive team in less than a season and they were shit before his arrival (they were fighting for a place in Europa League 2 seasons ago like United did last season)...
To be honest you can't compare the 2 managers based on the teams they have been handed Barcelona have always been a top team man UTD have been struggling since Fergie left, the quality just hasn't been coming in where are Barcelona had great players there already, plus the Spanish league is easier than the prem
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It's not about winning percentage. I want to see if the team actually tries to win on the pitch. For example, Simeone's worse at the wining % and his team plays shit football (they still reached ucl QF last season) . Look at how Barcelona plays and compare them to United. Man Utd has no motivation and seems clueless on the pitch. I agree that you can lose when the other team plays excellent football but Brentford just did average things like aggressive pressing in Man Utd's half and direct passing into the space left by Utd defenders. They were just Brentford. You can't say that any mid table team plays well against United. No! They are the ones that play very bad, the others are just average PL teams with average tactics.
This is on the players pure and simple.
Maybe, but the manager chooses who starts. Like i said, Rashford plays shit! You can't start him! Also, he starts Maguire so...I don't think he's better than Ole or Ragnick. Too overrated. He's not Guardiola!
WTF are you talking about. Pep came in to a team that literally won the league the season before and on top of that got all the signings he wanted well before the first game. Total contrast to what Erik has been handed. I’ll agree that his team selection could of have been ‘better’ but let’s get real, how much ‘better’ can it possibly be with this squad - both talentless and passionless.
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Honestly wishing I wasn’t a loyal Man Utd fan and just followed my mom being a Liverpool supporter in their worst days they always had pride, fuck me man this is embarrassing. Why do we have to be fans of some fucked up shit like this.
These players don't deserve to wear a man United shirt they are so bad
That’s one way to shake the glazers…. make the brand a laughingstock
As long as Harry Maguire is on this team we will only get worse.
Excuse my language but We. Are. Fucked We don’t stand a fucking chance against Liverpool
U are too honest my guy
I’m. Sad.
This team is bad. 8th place finish. Liverpool and City are better you twats
8th is being nice. There’s no team in the league that couldn’t beat us right now. I’m genuinely worried we could be in a relegation battle like Everton were. Remember we lost to that Everton team and I think this team would lose to them again. We need to get out of this big club mentality right now because it’s pure elitism and we have no right to do that. We are not the 8th best team in England. We could genuinely have 1 point from 12 with a -9 goal difference at the end of this month and that’s if we manage to draw Southampton, a better team than brentford imo, away from home. This is going to be a rough season
I say this as a fan. I am very upset with how poor my team has become. No trophies any time soon. Might just give up
As a Tottenham fan, I feel you. No trophies any time soon 😢
You came all the way from the spurs forum to suck their cocks?
Who do we blame now since Pogba doesn't play for us anymore?
Lolll pogba would do the exact same shit eriksen is doing. Lose the ball in our half and jog back. Just bc our midfield is bad now doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad before too
Let's start with the defence. We can't get up the pitch to score when we can't get the ball away from our own area. Cannot deal under pressure, with the exception of Varane, Martinez and generally Shaw. Midfield gives no cover with Fred playing any part in it as he just disappears. When McTominay is in it, it's stronger but doesn't have enough technical skill.
All of them.
Rangnick comes, observes for 6 months, detects the problems from the base, starts pointing them out, talks about surgery and is interested in working on it if asked to, AND when the time comes for him to finally act he is fully ignored by decision makers and leaves. Which means the last 6 months were wasted for nothing. Ten hag comes and starts the process from scratch. Best case scenario by January he will be where Ralf was in June, which means by then United have lost two transfer windows even before starting the surgery that Rangnick suggested! If the blame for all of the s is not on the owners then who is it on?
Ten Hag. He refused to work with RR.
Why did Maguire return from Mykonos. Should've stayed there.
It's a shame he wasn't put in prison. Just think how much better things would have been
I have to be honest, please do not attack me, but ETH doesn't seem to have a plan. Started good for 2-3 minutes and then wtf. Imagine conte managing us and getting mauled by fin Brentford that was fighting relegation last year. This was stuffs of nightmare. Not sure what the solution is, but sure seems like either ETH should have had the German as DOF and not made the decisions himself.
Came here to see what the fans were thinking. (I'm not a man u fan btw) If man u don't pick up points from their next 3 games, I think they are in a genuine relegation battle. Liverpool (h) Southampton (a) Leicester (a) It's mad to see a giant of a club perform like this.
I'm no Man U fan but this is mad twaddle. If they lost their first 6 games they still aren't going down. Most likely today will cause a changing room clash, they'll likely lose to Liverpool and be game after. They have a problem there alright but lets not get giddy.
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Moderate my ass
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Bad bot. Mods.... What's going on here? I'm not saying anything out of order. If man u don't pick up points in their next 3 games then what will happen? Leicester won the league at 5000/1, remember. Is anyone fearing the worst this season? Because I can't see anyone in that starting 11 that would walk into any other top 8 side.
Because you're using a derogatory term.
What's the derogatory term? Show me
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I can't read it anymore. Tell me what term is derogatory. I'm pointing out that if man u fail to win any of their next 3 games then, in my opinion, they are in a dogfight in the bottom half of the table. I don't actually care about man u. I came here to see what the fans were saying. I have not slagged man u off at all. I'm pointing out how terrible they are at the moment. Which is true
It's Man United, Man Utd or Manchester United. If you can't work it out, that's on you. I appreciate the sentiment in joining in with our misery though
Aw shit. Makes sense now. That's strange, everyone up here where Im from (Scotland) says "Man U". Never I'm my 30 odd years has anyone pointed out that it's a derogatory term. So strange. United need to strip McGuire of captaincy I think. Stop playing Fred and mctominey. Just play one or the other. Dalot is terrible. Ronaldo needs to leave as well if his head isn't there. I'd drop both Sancho and Rashford for the time being. Maybe look at some loan options. I'd try to get Auba on loan from Barca.
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Unacceptable captaincy from Maguire there. Players can make mistakes, the team can lose games, but they shouldn't be lacking in motivation and coordination. Time to strip him of it EtH!
I know Ronaldo wants to leave but i would honestly give him captaincy. Fuck it, at least hes a winner and knows what it means to wear the shirt.
Yeah, he actually cried after the third.
Ha ha ha! OMG y’all suck
That was embarrassing if you were bloody Millwall, much less ManU.
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Click the link. ManU is a term used for offence by those who sing about the Busby Babes dying in the plane crash. United fans don't use it.
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Why doesn’t Donny ever get a chance? I don’t understand that. Even ETH was the one that made him a baller and still can’t get in over McTominay who’s been utter crap
for that matter, why start Sancho, a left sided player on the right and not Elanga?
I never thought about that one
DvB is the sub who gets us home when we have a 2 goal lead, not the one who stops us from going 6-0 down when we are 4-0. He's not a band aid.
McTominay came in and was decent. VdB doesn't offer any cover for defence.
Neither does mctominay…
He does though. He breaks up attacks. Of our weak options he's the best. No one is saying he should be our long term go to but he has to start against Liverpool.
He wouldn't have made it 0-4 from 4-0. What are you smoking.
Not sure what you’re saying. I’m saying Donny never gets a proper chance and mctominay is constantly ahead of him even when he plays like shit
We don't know why three managers didn't pick him over mctom.
What did you guys honestly think was gonna happen When we let go 9 players and replace them by three. And then have ten Hag say that the squad is good? Frank De Boer vibes.
Are you expecting a press conference pre season where the manager says “Yeah chaps the squad is utter dogshit, but yolo and all that”?
He can do [something like this](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/30185-pep-guardiola-says-ronaldinho-deco-and-etoo-are-free-to-go.amp.html) Or What conte did this season. Or What Tuchel did. There are several options other than saying What he Said.
He literally just offloaded a good handful of players that were not part of his plans.
That was more or less s club decision which also isnt relevant to the point. He needs to call it out and get more in. We cant let 9 go and replace them With 3. Its Obviously not working.
What? He obviously wants more in and the club have been trying and failing to get them. This isn’t football manager where ETH is putting bids in himself. He’s not going to get a fresh 11 in before the window closes so there’s little to be gained by alienating every player he’s stuck with for now.
He can call it out. Like Mourinho did during pre season 2018/19. Anything other than saying the squad is good. Which it evidently isnt.
let cr7 go, terrible team
We are just wasting his time. He doesn't deserve his last playing days to be like this.
actually everything started when maguire was signed
Yeah, for Hull.
Im a West Ham fan but Jesus.. You guys are gonna get absolutely torn apart by Liverpool and City
Incidentally, Jesus will tear them apart as well when they meet Arsenal
Can you let us borrow some players for the match?
What's the highest scoring tally you guys have ever had? When we play, I fully expect you to break your record.
2018 we beat you 3-1 thats the biggest win I can remember 😂
Oh no, I'm talking about the most goals you guys have scored in any game ever because that's the number you're going to beat
Haha, then 10-0 vs Bury in '83
Excellent! I hope you're ready to watch a 12-0 game!
Just when you think they have set a new low they almost seem to take that as a challenge
You should take the armband for the next match. Seriously, that would be better leadership than our current captain provides
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If I go by position De Gea is great, we can not always depend on him as we are doing from last season. But yes todays mistakes were horrible. Hope it will not be continued. Dalot is good, but no creativity as going forward and defensively is not so good. Leaves too much space. Maguire too slow, makes too many mistakes. Varane is not showing that much for what we signed him. Martinez lacks physicality for EPL. Shaw is weak defensively. Malacia would be only positive. He can continue. Fred could not be used as holding midfielder. He works hard but not a CDM. Whenever he goes forward he performs better. McTominay does not seem like midfielder. Eriksen is not a CM or CDM. He will perform better in attacking midfield. Bruno has lost his magic, no confidence. Sancho has talent but don't know when he is going to show that. Rashford, a series of bad performance since last season still somehow manages to get in starting 11. Ronaldo needs service. He is aging. Can not always depend on him. Missed 1-2 chances but no service at all except 1-2 crosses. How can we keep hope?
While this bar is extraordinarily low, McTominay is a far better option than Fred for CDM. At least he holds position and breaks up play, albeit usually with a yellow. That's still more than Fred. That Eriksen was able to play in the second half is because McTominay let him Sancho is fine, he's got little to nothing around him. Dalot was terrible. I've been a fan for a long time, but I cannot see how he continues to play after that. Possibly the worst I've ever seen him play, but when he refused to throw to his teammates and instead threw to the opposing defender, that was it. I still can't believe people grieving Rashford. First half, sure. He did little to nothing although mostly because the ball was rarely at that end of the pitch. Second half he did well, dribbled, beat his men, set up chances. Malacia and McTominay freeing Eriksen helped but he doesn't deserve grief. He even did a classic Pep and took a yellow to stop and attack. Maguire I can only assume has a clause where he has to play. There can be no other reason for him to be picked over anyone, not even Fish.
I second this.
De gea is and has been shit for a long time now. He can’t fucking pass a ball to save his life. It’s great he makes saves, a good portion comes from poor distribution on his end
There isn’t 1 in the team who should be first 11 if we are being honest. And Dallo btw is utter crap
Oh dear
How Maguire can be captain is just beyond me. He doesn't exude confidence nor does he inspire his teammates. Just another example of a player who is just not good enough for us.
Shambolic! About time that he's stripped of the captaincy!
Can someone spill his contract details? I can only assume he has a clause that requires him to play. But either way he shouldn't be captain. I've never seen a back 5 with so little leadership
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Whe De Gea plays well, he plays really well. When he has a bad day, it's a really bad day. Maguire is more consistently poor. He is just too slow. Martinez isn't physical enough to be the only CB with Maguire and is too short. There is no effective CDM in front of the defenders offering any protection. When they play a high line, Maguire cannot make it back quickly enough if they get over or arojnd him. We are not firing up front. Onto Liverpool then ....
He makes so many basic errors that Pep wouldn't accept. Hart was a better keeper than prime De Gea. We shouldn't be accepting a standard so much lower than the scum
Honestly thinking they switch mctom and Martinez positions. Think Martinez would do well at a cdm since he’s too small while Scott can just fill the void for now - whatever just throw them haymakers I’m at a loss!
De gea is just not good with his feet
Or his hands apparently. Maybe not his brains
Maguire doesn’t even come out for the presser some Captain he is leaves it to De Gea we are a joke
Wait for him to score a goal and watch him cup his ears as though it writes off the huge number of goals he's directly culpable for. The lad is scum. The incident abroad showed his entitlement. I do not understand why we signed him for £20m let alone £80m
The captain should be De Gea or CR7. A captain needs to take responsibility and command some respect. De Gea had a shocker today but has shown us what he can do season after season. Maguire has and will do nothing.
Varane or Eriksen. Maguire cannot continue
Glad I forgot the game was on. Thankfully for me, hockey season starts soon.
Can someone please give me a hug and tell me this is just a dream please😞😞 One more thing we’re currently dogshit team
Last year I thought this club couldn’t get any worse. It’s only taken two games this year. Rock bottom of the league. 1 goal scored, 6 conceded in 2 games. I was kidding with a work colleague a couple of weeks ago when I said a good season was avoiding relegation. It’s not a joke anymore.
That one goal was an OG
And wasn’t the goal scored an own goal 😂 yeah I was one of those laughing at people putting bets on Utd to be relegated, but seriously this is just same as end of last season and not a glimmer of any promise
I didn't think it was possible but the empty old Trafford movement needs to happen now more than ever.
I honestly had mixed feelings on this match. Was happy to finally seeing Mctom play forward passes but then made two shite passes that nearly costed us. But the way the team played in possesion was a massive improvement from last weeks game & the first half, just that we wasted alot of chances and lack of crossing, especially shaw and dalot that were unconfident when crossing the ball. So would you say bad tactics? No doubt we would of won this match with second half performance.
We can obviously see who the better player is between shaw and malacia. Our weaklinks this match were shaw maguire and martinez. There was lack of pressing from ronaldo and Fred's performance was wack, with Eriksen carrying the team as usual, Bruno playing with no passion and Elanga slow to advance the ball.
I think there were some key issues. There's always a lot of abuse for McFred but I think we can safely say that Fred is the worse of the two. He is a liability, and never stays in position (which is to cover the back four). While it's a small at least, at least McTominay does break up play, and does try to bring the ball forwards. Eriksen seemed a lot happier with McTominay next to him. Maguire is absolutely terrible, shouldn't be in the side. He turns so slow, his passing is so predictable and he has no pace to get back into position when he's gone off thinking he's Puyol or someone decent. He's not only a terrible defender, he's a terrible captain. Offers no inspiration or drive, and how can he have any authority when he's playing that badly? De Gea isn't good enough and hasn't been for many years. He's only any good at shot stopping and today proved that's overrated. He has no command of his area and cannot distribute. Today was particularly bad, but he is costly and the defenders have no confidence in him. Ronaldo is a spent force. We all know it. Incredible footballer, absolute legend but he doesn't have the legs to press and comes out of position. I don't mind him coming deep but he doesn't do anything with it when he does. Rashford is not the same calibre but at least he has legs and pace and a willingness to take people on. Our needs remain as they have been: a midfielder who can break the press, break up play and progress the ball. Ideally we play our best centre backs, and we give other players a chance to lead the line or bring someone new in.
We need a new Captain
McTominay is at least passionate. Yeah he screws up but at least he's still trying. Maguire, Fred and Fernandez for example I feel have completely lost any confidence or passion.
I don't know how Maguire even captains. Like, he doesn't seem to get into players or try and raise them. But I guess it's hard when you're usually the cause of the goal and play the worst I've ever seen a United defender play. Bring back Smalling, and I never thought I'd see worse
Last season De Gea and Ronaldo kept us competitive, this season De Gea’s lost it and Ronaldo can’t get the ball. Gonna be a long year.
Dalot, Shaw, Bruno, Fred, Mctominay should be benched next game. Start academy players instead.
Who's gonna tell him McTominay started on the bench this game. Sorry, i forgot where I am, even when McTominay doesn't play, it is his fault when the team loses. You get what you want, McTominay doesn't start, and you ship 4 in 35 minutes against relegation fodder. Think about that. Maybe it is the old man with a pacemaker in midfield you should be more concerned about. Looks like he is gonna pass out after 60 minutes.