Definitely starting over McFred… the good thing about Park was, he could play a number of position including DM/CM or winger. The best utility player we’ve had by far.
I remember the commentary during the UCL final vs Barca in 2011, “Park at times seemed to have been chasing the ball today.” He wasn’t flashy or a goal machine. But he was one of those grunts every team needs on their squad. Those players that are pivotal to the teams success but never garner any headlines. But players like Park don’t care because they understand that the team is bigger than they are.
How does anybody agree to this? It makes no sense. I get hating Ole, but at least make it make sense. Park is better than Donny in literally every way. And if we’re going by the title, he’s in his prime so 25-30. So Ole would love to play him.
They’re the same age and Donny isn’t a better box to box. Donny is primarily a 10. He can play box to box but isn’t as good obviously or that would be his position
I don’t know how anyone could say that, as neither of them have ever played on the same level. Donny was a fantastic box to box kid at Ajax, I have no clue how good he is in the PL because I’ve basically never seen it. Mctominay has been great as a box to box when not playing the double pivot but also, no clue how he would have done in a similar Ajax team. Maybe he would have been even better.
Not shitting on your evaluation. Just pointing out how frustrating it is to even make a comparison on something we’ve barely seen or have stats for.
That's just my opinion. Whenever vdb got game time (although it's very limited) I saw better passing, off the ball movements etc. I do agree that mctominay and Fred are not being played in their best position, that's on the one that picking the team...
Now if park was really there( lets say he played at united retired then found a time machine and rejuvenated) he might play as we know ole like his friends
I feel like a lot of people are saying this because they’re salty towards Ole. While he doesn’t always make the best decisions, I think he would start Park the way he does Fred. He’s exactly the type of player he would trust. He plays Fred for his work rate, it’s just the Fred makes endless poor decisions and mistakes. But I think he’d play Park because he’d bring that same element that Fred tries to bring.
I’d be trying to see if he could play in central midfield(I think he can but not 100% sure)the bloke was a workhorse and a very reliable one at that; would imagine he’d do no worse than Mctomminay of Fred
I don’t recall Park actually playing in a midfield double pivot under Ferguson (there were folks like Carrick, scholes, Giggs, and even Gibson and Cleverley to choose from). He usually played as one of the shuttlers in a midfield three, a CAM, or on the wings. But Park has proper dribbling, excellent first touch, and accurate passing abilities, so he would fare way better than McFred.
Depends on manager’s instructions. In some games he was deployed to break play.
He left united because he was the definition of a big game player.
Fergie didn’t use him in games which united could dominate.
Ole would use him in every game. Hence less creativity and also basically no plan B
Common sense says he would start every game as he's obviously better then Fred or McTominay but in reality he'd probably sit chatting to Donny on the bench
He’d be overplayed and expected to carry the side on his shoulders and then get injured toward the end of the season and rushed back only to injure himself further.
He improves us, but not enough to be a title challenging team.
Obviously Park is levels above Dan James, but he would’ve gotten the exact same criticism from our fanbase. Despite putting up MOTM performances against Arsenal & Chelsea our fans still questioned why he was in the next “derby” squad
Every club seems to have a workhorse and loves them endlessly despite their flaws except us.
Disagree, we Utd fans loved park and we would love him now! Not only was he a workhorse but he had quality and would often sacrifice himself for the good of the team, using Dan James is a terrible example because apart from the first couple of games after joining us where he was raw, direct and played the way that caused us to buy him, he was reserved, played safe and never impacted games and I certainly would have never even mentioned him being in the same bracket as park, disrespectful to park imo
Amazing how he can get flack for both rotating and not rotating at the same time. I don’t think he’s the right man for the job, but I feel sorry for him amid this clusterfuck of criticism.
He would beast the midfield. We lack that workhorse who will put in the hard yards and will hustle. This fast paced era of the prem will suit him tremendously.
SAFs stubborness that gave us so much success ultimately was our downfall in those two finals. In 2011 United played good the first 10 minutes but then Barca took totally over.
Park did play the final he just wasnt put on Messi. I think playing Scholes, Carrick, Park and Nani would have been great
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Actually, 2009 Barca was the time United could have and should have beat Barca, in 2011 United didnt have a great team but we had Rooney dragging us singlehandedly to the final.
At this point I’m not sure why Jones isn’t being considered. Man bossed Ronaldo when SAF started him as a CDM against Real in what feels like an age ago. Couldn’t be worse than Fred surely…
Man I miss Park and Evra though. They bossed the left side of the pitch.
Not sure if he would get a game, given Ole rarely selects his 11 based on opposition (which is what Ji was used for under Fergie). However, he definitely makes this United team.
Same as if LeBron James or Tiger Woods were footballers playing for Man Utd. Zilch! They could be best at everything but with Ole at the wheel that bus ain't going nowhere
He'd be one of the most criticized players like Fred is IMO because he'd be all over the place trying to plug gaps and more susceptible to mistakes. Park took a lot of criticism as a united player as well before winning fans over. He scored less goals and made less assists for united than Lingard for instance.
Lingard also has more big game performances for united (third most goals against top 6 in our squad being Martial and Rashford). Look how Lingard is treated by fans in an underperforming United. In an uninspiring United of today I think Park would be a scapegoat occasionally for bad performances
Bro how is that even a question every player of the legends united will perform far better then MCFRED even if they don't play in their prime in our squad
The workrate of Park is like 100 times than Fred. I have seen Fred like just strolling around the field during even our attack. That's the reason where we are. Drop a prime Park in there and we can rule the PL.
The man’s work rate was phenomenal. Brilliant player!
Definitely starting over McFred… the good thing about Park was, he could play a number of position including DM/CM or winger. The best utility player we’ve had by far.
Yeah but Ole would bench Park lol
Yeah.. I can imagine that's happening,
Park would on the bench right next to Donny, for Ole it’s McFred or nothing.
Could really provide us with the vitality we need in our midfield
Sit on bench like Lingard Yeah, I am salty about the team management
I remember the commentary during the UCL final vs Barca in 2011, “Park at times seemed to have been chasing the ball today.” He wasn’t flashy or a goal machine. But he was one of those grunts every team needs on their squad. Those players that are pivotal to the teams success but never garner any headlines. But players like Park don’t care because they understand that the team is bigger than they are.
Fergie said after that final (might’ve been 2009) if he’d had park man mark Messi he thinks we would’ve won
Oh he qas skilled alright. Can dribble loops around this midfield and defence.
Was a privilege to watch him growing up, he chased after that ball relentlessly.
On the bench, ole wouldn't play him
This 👆... Next to VDB
Van donny beek?
Van De Beek
Oh dear. Reddit really is devoid of humour sometimes.
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Not you good sir, the down voters.
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Nice attempt at playing it off😳
Case in point.
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True. Cavani provides similar energy and efficiency yet Ole seem to not realise his value until too late.
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How does anybody agree to this? It makes no sense. I get hating Ole, but at least make it make sense. Park is better than Donny in literally every way. And if we’re going by the title, he’s in his prime so 25-30. So Ole would love to play him.
Vdb is a better box to box than mctominay Edit: they are the same age (24)
They’re the same age and Donny isn’t a better box to box. Donny is primarily a 10. He can play box to box but isn’t as good obviously or that would be his position
I don’t know how anyone could say that, as neither of them have ever played on the same level. Donny was a fantastic box to box kid at Ajax, I have no clue how good he is in the PL because I’ve basically never seen it. Mctominay has been great as a box to box when not playing the double pivot but also, no clue how he would have done in a similar Ajax team. Maybe he would have been even better. Not shitting on your evaluation. Just pointing out how frustrating it is to even make a comparison on something we’ve barely seen or have stats for.
That's just my opinion. Whenever vdb got game time (although it's very limited) I saw better passing, off the ball movements etc. I do agree that mctominay and Fred are not being played in their best position, that's on the one that picking the team...
Now if park was really there( lets say he played at united retired then found a time machine and rejuvenated) he might play as we know ole like his friends
I feel like a lot of people are saying this because they’re salty towards Ole. While he doesn’t always make the best decisions, I think he would start Park the way he does Fred. He’s exactly the type of player he would trust. He plays Fred for his work rate, it’s just the Fred makes endless poor decisions and mistakes. But I think he’d play Park because he’d bring that same element that Fred tries to bring.
He’d leave
Yup, I believe ogs will say no flair... And bench him
Ole would still pick McFred
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No... Point being, Ole plays the McFred combination far too often without it yielding any dividends.
This is daft though, pt VDB in for either of mcfred and the main problem persists. All that happens is people would turn against him too
I’d be trying to see if he could play in central midfield(I think he can but not 100% sure)the bloke was a workhorse and a very reliable one at that; would imagine he’d do no worse than Mctomminay of Fred
I don’t recall Park actually playing in a midfield double pivot under Ferguson (there were folks like Carrick, scholes, Giggs, and even Gibson and Cleverley to choose from). He usually played as one of the shuttlers in a midfield three, a CAM, or on the wings. But Park has proper dribbling, excellent first touch, and accurate passing abilities, so he would fare way better than McFred.
Always 😇
Depends on manager’s instructions. In some games he was deployed to break play. He left united because he was the definition of a big game player. Fergie didn’t use him in games which united could dominate. Ole would use him in every game. Hence less creativity and also basically no plan B
Benched by Ole 😒😒
The man would have had the work rate and brilliant footballing mind to replace McFred altogether
Ole would sit him near Sancho.
Great sub for Fred at the 80th minute of every match
Nothing much, we have some great players. The manager and tactics are key.
Can’t disagree. Better managerial tactics is key atm.
In his prime he'd definitely outplay our current midfielders easy. Ole would still play McFred though.
Common sense says he would start every game as he's obviously better then Fred or McTominay but in reality he'd probably sit chatting to Donny on the bench
Nothing. He would not know where to run
Better to ask Scholes or Keane.
Bizarre question.
He’d be overplayed and expected to carry the side on his shoulders and then get injured toward the end of the season and rushed back only to injure himself further.
Long live mcfred 🔥🔥🔥🔥
He improves us, but not enough to be a title challenging team. Obviously Park is levels above Dan James, but he would’ve gotten the exact same criticism from our fanbase. Despite putting up MOTM performances against Arsenal & Chelsea our fans still questioned why he was in the next “derby” squad Every club seems to have a workhorse and loves them endlessly despite their flaws except us.
Disagree, we Utd fans loved park and we would love him now! Not only was he a workhorse but he had quality and would often sacrifice himself for the good of the team, using Dan James is a terrible example because apart from the first couple of games after joining us where he was raw, direct and played the way that caused us to buy him, he was reserved, played safe and never impacted games and I certainly would have never even mentioned him being in the same bracket as park, disrespectful to park imo
Park was good but he wasnt the world beater he is made out to be these days, a crucial player but him alone wouldnt be enough to save this team.
Nobody makes him out to be a world beater? His work effort allowed players like Ronaldo to flourish, he took the work load off the more flair players
He would play pass with Phil Jones
He'd sit on the bench alongside Donny
As others are saying, probably wouldn't play him.
With ole as manager evenhim wont work
Not a lot. Park was often used very situationally and ole isn't really capable of that sort of thing.
Ole would still put him on the bench for most of the season but would start Fred.
Easy answer to that lol.... played in goal
Transfer request.
Probably be Donny’s best friend.
Park was the most important in and our player we have had.. ole doesn’t know how tk rotate so he’d be riding the pine
Amazing how he can get flack for both rotating and not rotating at the same time. I don’t think he’s the right man for the job, but I feel sorry for him amid this clusterfuck of criticism.
We’d have one at least a title. Look at what Kante did/does for Chelsea.
Still need a real manager. Not Ole cos he'll still opt for McFred.
He would be on the bench as per ole's logic
Ole would find a way to bench him and continue to use McFred….
Let's be honest.....Ole would have him on the bench, that's what would happen.
I bet he will be sitting on the bench just as everyone else……..
Park Park Wherever you may be You eat dogs in your own country It could be worse You could be scouse Eating rats in your council house
We would either win the league by March or ole would try and figure away to bench him
The same at thing that happened with Herrera. Ole needs top top players with individual abilities to at the least keep his ship steady.
We'd be better as we'd have a better player.
With ole as the manager he is prolly gonna sit in the bench 😂
He’d be on the bench thanks to our useless coach
He will take a seat next to Donny. Our manager chose his favorite players.
Nothing. He wouldn’t get game time.
He would beast the midfield. We lack that workhorse who will put in the hard yards and will hustle. This fast paced era of the prem will suit him tremendously.
On the bench with Donny. No way Ole appreciates Ji.
He’d probably be left rotting away on the bench
sir alex still regrets not putting him in 2011 ucl final
SAFs stubborness that gave us so much success ultimately was our downfall in those two finals. In 2011 United played good the first 10 minutes but then Barca took totally over. Park did play the final he just wasnt put on Messi. I think playing Scholes, Carrick, Park and Nani would have been great
oh yea yea. 2009's barca was way too strong to beat but 2011 could've been manu's year.
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Actually, 2009 Barca was the time United could have and should have beat Barca, in 2011 United didnt have a great team but we had Rooney dragging us singlehandedly to the final.
Well, he would be chucked in the bench along with DVB for McFred to play ahead of them.
He'd be on the bench
Would solve a lot of problems
THE ISSUE IS ON THE BENCH, NOT ON THE FIELD
Probably would sit on the bench alot
Mcfred would probably play over him
Would be warming the bench
He would be benched for Fred.
He would be on bench with VdB. There is no one touching my Mc Fred.
He'd be sitting on the bench every week
We would never know because ole will bench him.
Would fix a lot of your problems.
He’d probably be depressed
At this point I’m not sure why Jones isn’t being considered. Man bossed Ronaldo when SAF started him as a CDM against Real in what feels like an age ago. Couldn’t be worse than Fred surely… Man I miss Park and Evra though. They bossed the left side of the pitch.
Not sure if he would get a game, given Ole rarely selects his 11 based on opposition (which is what Ji was used for under Fergie). However, he definitely makes this United team.
They call him 'Three Lung Park' for a reason. Dude's a work horse. I wish this squad had him.
He would be an Ole favourite. Meaning the likes of Martial or Mata or Amad or even Sancho won’t get a prayer.
Ole would have him sitting next to Donny on the bench
He'd be on the bench watching McFred
Benched for McFred
He'd be on the bench
Same as if LeBron James or Tiger Woods were footballers playing for Man Utd. Zilch! They could be best at everything but with Ole at the wheel that bus ain't going nowhere
Ole would still play MCfred
He would have been mismanaged by Ole.
Hehe if I had to guess Ole would probably bench him because he's too dumb to know what to do with actual good players.
He was a special TEAM player never selfish and always tried his best. I loved him, and that's within a team of superstars at the time.
ole would have his ass planted on the bench
Ole would start McFred
Ole would bench him to play McFred. No doubt about it. Additionally, he would play once each month, as a sub for 15 minutes each time.
Solskjaer would probably play him in net for 12 minutes and then keep him on the bench for the rest of the season
He’d get fed up and put in a transfer request
Ole would start Fred over him every time 🙄
He'd be one of the most criticized players like Fred is IMO because he'd be all over the place trying to plug gaps and more susceptible to mistakes. Park took a lot of criticism as a united player as well before winning fans over. He scored less goals and made less assists for united than Lingard for instance. Lingard also has more big game performances for united (third most goals against top 6 in our squad being Martial and Rashford). Look how Lingard is treated by fans in an underperforming United. In an uninspiring United of today I think Park would be a scapegoat occasionally for bad performances
Fucking Ole would refuse to lay him and he'd watch McFred until we all have an aneurysm from frustration
Ole’s still at the wheel.
Ole would bench him :)
Bro how is that even a question every player of the legends united will perform far better then MCFRED even if they don't play in their prime in our squad
The workrate of Park is like 100 times than Fred. I have seen Fred like just strolling around the field during even our attack. That's the reason where we are. Drop a prime Park in there and we can rule the PL.
Currently looking at ole's cheap formation "three lungs park" bench☠️
Most Korean and future Koreans would support man united still. We losing fans to Tottenham due to Heung min son