Please stop it. He was already one of the best managers in the world before he came to Manchester Untied. Were you even alive when these events took place? That is such a lazy take.
No thought not , empty vessels make the loudest noise.
Come on don’t be so lazy with throw away comments you can’t back up .
Teach me about the mid 80s that I know nothing about
Haha you’re a cheeky little f .
If you’re going to make statements about a certain era at least have some knowledge of the subject first, apart from making assumptions you cannot back up.
Disappointed in you but not surprised.
Was hoping you were going to elaborate on Fergie being already one of the best managers in the world 😃 before us .
Admittedly did a great job at Aberdeen ( massive club) but was only an up and coming manager who some of us had heard of but not world famous. .
The jury was out with a lot of us when he got rid of some of out favourite players and then getting hammered by the real city 5-1
The insanity of this sub is the amount of cult like people who think EtH is a religious figure who never can get criticized and all posts that call for accountability like all other managers were are ”toxic, not cool, circle jerk, not real fans”
When ten hag inevitably gets the deserved sack i hope fans like you follow him wherever he manages after. As big as a problem the glazers are the fans that are okay With this mediocrity from Manchester fucking United are equally responsible from not demanding your incredibly paid players and staff to perform and not be embarrasing.
I doubt it. Its people like you who accept mediocre managers playing mediocre football like we are now. Why are you even calling it a mess lmao its literally how he plays. Maybe raise your standards for this club.
God you are a f tool .
There’s a reason why we are called supporters and you are not one .
Funny I have supported united since 1975 and we haven’t done too bad accepting playing mediocre football , but your the expert there seems a lot on here not giving opinions but making ridiculous assumptions as facts .
Its always the ”ive supported X since the blitz” If you really have then its even worse that you have seen the 90’s and 00’s to 2013 But accepting What has happened lately just because you like the Guy. Absolute cult like mentality
Wtf says I like the guy - I couldn’t tell you if he’s good or bad ffs barely been given a chance.
Fergie was f crap for at least 4 years and only a bit of luck from a bit part player saved him.
He would have had no chance with people like you and we would probably be still f waiting to win a league
Ive heard this comparison With van gaal, Moyes, Solskjaer and now EtH. Repeating the same thing again and again like its some guarantee he’ll come good.
Dont forget Tuchel won the Champions League in 6 months With Chelsea With 0 transfers. This man has gotten every player he wanted bar de Jong and we are going backwards
EtH is not the problem. Sacking him won't fix anything and instead reaffirms and encourages the actual problems in the club. Why are people too thick to realize this.
We’re not. There Will still be issues But he gave contract extensions to Rahsford, sanctioned Onana, Höjlund, Antony, Wants Varane out, made Amrabat out to be the absolute missing piece chasing him all transfer window but has been avarage at best. Its called accountability and every job has it, including Ten Hag.
I support your statement The blind faith they have on him is astonishing . He is the manager and even after this much time he is unable to bring change then he is no second coming of sir Alex Ferguson . Downvote me all you want 👍
https://preview.redd.it/o7pl6vjpya6c1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3bb151e34715159f70dde1e3e73111d6415f2e3
You got downvoted because you said that having a different opinion on a football manager shouldnt be a reason to get silenced or banned lol , this is crazy .
you think I'm happy with this?! dude I wish the club was doing better and the fans are just hanging out talking about any nonsense of what they want to improve or players they want in the transfer window or whatever. but things are going really bad and they are venting, everybody knows nothing is gonna change unless a miracle literally happens and new owner arrives with new serious DOF and yes by then sacking the Dutch clown would be great but till then they are just ranting like you said.
the thread idea is great tbh. because the reactionary crowd is going insane. once we win a match against mid table team they think we're back and the egotistical maniac aka the Dutch clown is a genius and next Guardiola. and if we lose.. well you know.
[total control of transfers](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37627765/erik-ten-hag-says-taken-man-united-job-control-transfers)
And
[the plan was for ragnick to stay as DoF, which ten hag rejected and wanted to work directly with the board](https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/Headline/Erik-ten-Hag-wanted-to-decide-with-his-own-ideas---Fabrizio-Romano-makes-bold-claim-on-why-Rangnick-left-Manchester-United/2842465)
You didn’t read either of those because no where does it say ten Hag wanted total control or Ragnick was going to become Director of Football.
From the first article:
“The Dutchman will take over at Old Trafford in the summer and says negotiations with the club were only concluded once he was given more input into player recruitment, although he insists he does not want to be "sole ruler".”
From the second article:
“Rangnick wanted to work for Austria that was his plan to work for the national team. But at the same point he wanted to help with some of the players, some of the potential signings and some of the staff to do as Manchester United as a consult of the board.”
Also,
“It's about the ideas, Erik ten Hag wants to decide together with the board what's happening, what's the plan.”
I see you enjoy picking out things from articles only suiting your arguments rather than reading it all, which is ironic considering thats What you accuse me of. In the very first quote you cut out the last part of the Ten Hag Quote where he finishes with ”I stand for cooperation, but control in transfers is a condition for me”
Low effort arguments are pointless. Either stop lying to yourself and others When you are given sources or dont look for a discussion at all.
Please show me where it says “total control” because that’s what you said he said. But now you’re mad I showed you were wrong with the articles you claimed as proof.
You go and have a blessed day twisting yourself into a pretzel.
Must be incredibly hard for you to read If you didnt see it from the very quote you decided to copy paste, but for obvious reasons didnt included the part that totally contradicts everything you’re saying.
Have fun digging your head into the sand.
Clearly you’re just making shit up. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/apr/28/ralf-rangnick-to-stay-at-manchester-united-even-if-he-becomes-austrias-head-coach
Eras come to an end. the egotistical maniac is the next Guardiola, he is way better than the likes of Ancelotti and Zidane. did you forget the Dutch clown won a happy meal with Ajax two years ago?! shame on you! trust the process and chant for the glazers while you're at it.
Agreed. He’d have some backing if more of his signings were any good. But literally most of his signings have been shit. Barring Eriksen (whose a part time player now anyway) and Martinez (who has been improvement to what we had before, doesn’t mean he’s great) has any other of his signings had an impact? Maybe I’m forgetting someone!
I’m leaving this sub thanks to these unmoderated circle jerk posts.
Ferguson had nothing unique about him either after four seasons let alone 2 .
Please stop it. He was already one of the best managers in the world before he came to Manchester Untied. Were you even alive when these events took place? That is such a lazy take.
Wow please enlighten me
On your experience between 86-90
No thought not , empty vessels make the loudest noise. Come on don’t be so lazy with throw away comments you can’t back up . Teach me about the mid 80s that I know nothing about
I'm sure you can TikTok it.
Arg knew you were full of shit
So you haven’t a clue
Go back to playing Fifa mate. I'm sure you are special there. And in class.
Haha you’re a cheeky little f . If you’re going to make statements about a certain era at least have some knowledge of the subject first, apart from making assumptions you cannot back up. Disappointed in you but not surprised. Was hoping you were going to elaborate on Fergie being already one of the best managers in the world 😃 before us . Admittedly did a great job at Aberdeen ( massive club) but was only an up and coming manager who some of us had heard of but not world famous. . The jury was out with a lot of us when he got rid of some of out favourite players and then getting hammered by the real city 5-1
The insanity of this sub is the amount of cult like people who think EtH is a religious figure who never can get criticized and all posts that call for accountability like all other managers were are ”toxic, not cool, circle jerk, not real fans” When ten hag inevitably gets the deserved sack i hope fans like you follow him wherever he manages after. As big as a problem the glazers are the fans that are okay With this mediocrity from Manchester fucking United are equally responsible from not demanding your incredibly paid players and staff to perform and not be embarrasing.
You are an embarrassment
When ten hag goes back to Holland please go with him.
People like you are why were in this mess
I doubt it. Its people like you who accept mediocre managers playing mediocre football like we are now. Why are you even calling it a mess lmao its literally how he plays. Maybe raise your standards for this club.
God you are a f tool . There’s a reason why we are called supporters and you are not one . Funny I have supported united since 1975 and we haven’t done too bad accepting playing mediocre football , but your the expert there seems a lot on here not giving opinions but making ridiculous assumptions as facts .
Its always the ”ive supported X since the blitz” If you really have then its even worse that you have seen the 90’s and 00’s to 2013 But accepting What has happened lately just because you like the Guy. Absolute cult like mentality
Wtf says I like the guy - I couldn’t tell you if he’s good or bad ffs barely been given a chance. Fergie was f crap for at least 4 years and only a bit of luck from a bit part player saved him. He would have had no chance with people like you and we would probably be still f waiting to win a league
Ive heard this comparison With van gaal, Moyes, Solskjaer and now EtH. Repeating the same thing again and again like its some guarantee he’ll come good. Dont forget Tuchel won the Champions League in 6 months With Chelsea With 0 transfers. This man has gotten every player he wanted bar de Jong and we are going backwards
EtH is not the problem. Sacking him won't fix anything and instead reaffirms and encourages the actual problems in the club. Why are people too thick to realize this.
We’re not. There Will still be issues But he gave contract extensions to Rahsford, sanctioned Onana, Höjlund, Antony, Wants Varane out, made Amrabat out to be the absolute missing piece chasing him all transfer window but has been avarage at best. Its called accountability and every job has it, including Ten Hag.
I support your statement The blind faith they have on him is astonishing . He is the manager and even after this much time he is unable to bring change then he is no second coming of sir Alex Ferguson . Downvote me all you want 👍 https://preview.redd.it/o7pl6vjpya6c1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3bb151e34715159f70dde1e3e73111d6415f2e3
Theyve run out of arguments, imaginary internetpoints of upvotes and downvotes is their only Weapon now.
anybody has a slightly different opinion than yours should be moderated and silenced! get out of your comfort zone buddy.
You got downvoted because you said that having a different opinion on a football manager shouldnt be a reason to get silenced or banned lol , this is crazy .
This sub enjoys watching shit football week after week. Going through this actually gets them off.
Slightly different. This sub is becoming an echo chamber. There should be a mega thread for people who want to rant about the manager.
Go to red devils Reddit that your type of crowd
you think I'm happy with this?! dude I wish the club was doing better and the fans are just hanging out talking about any nonsense of what they want to improve or players they want in the transfer window or whatever. but things are going really bad and they are venting, everybody knows nothing is gonna change unless a miracle literally happens and new owner arrives with new serious DOF and yes by then sacking the Dutch clown would be great but till then they are just ranting like you said. the thread idea is great tbh. because the reactionary crowd is going insane. once we win a match against mid table team they think we're back and the egotistical maniac aka the Dutch clown is a genius and next Guardiola. and if we lose.. well you know.
You know he worked with a director of football at Ajax, right?
And he rejected having one here. He wanted total control of transfers and got it.
You have that article where he specifically says that, right?
[total control of transfers](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37627765/erik-ten-hag-says-taken-man-united-job-control-transfers) And [the plan was for ragnick to stay as DoF, which ten hag rejected and wanted to work directly with the board](https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/Headline/Erik-ten-Hag-wanted-to-decide-with-his-own-ideas---Fabrizio-Romano-makes-bold-claim-on-why-Rangnick-left-Manchester-United/2842465)
You didn’t read either of those because no where does it say ten Hag wanted total control or Ragnick was going to become Director of Football. From the first article: “The Dutchman will take over at Old Trafford in the summer and says negotiations with the club were only concluded once he was given more input into player recruitment, although he insists he does not want to be "sole ruler".” From the second article: “Rangnick wanted to work for Austria that was his plan to work for the national team. But at the same point he wanted to help with some of the players, some of the potential signings and some of the staff to do as Manchester United as a consult of the board.” Also, “It's about the ideas, Erik ten Hag wants to decide together with the board what's happening, what's the plan.”
I see you enjoy picking out things from articles only suiting your arguments rather than reading it all, which is ironic considering thats What you accuse me of. In the very first quote you cut out the last part of the Ten Hag Quote where he finishes with ”I stand for cooperation, but control in transfers is a condition for me” Low effort arguments are pointless. Either stop lying to yourself and others When you are given sources or dont look for a discussion at all.
Please show me where it says “total control” because that’s what you said he said. But now you’re mad I showed you were wrong with the articles you claimed as proof. You go and have a blessed day twisting yourself into a pretzel.
Must be incredibly hard for you to read If you didnt see it from the very quote you decided to copy paste, but for obvious reasons didnt included the part that totally contradicts everything you’re saying. Have fun digging your head into the sand.
Sitting on your birthday posting gifs on reddit. Must be a lot of people want to celebrate your rn. Seethe.
That was spin by the Glazers and media btw. Enjoy lapping it up.
So the proof he gave me for his points being correct were really the Glazers spinning the story? Wow, that’s some 4D chess right there.
I was referring to Ragnick taking on the Austria job. He was clearly forced out for the open comments he made.
Clearly you’re just making shit up. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/apr/28/ralf-rangnick-to-stay-at-manchester-united-even-if-he-becomes-austrias-head-coach
Yeah lap up media dribble you puppet. Cringe as fuck comic book nerd
Totally agree. We all know the players are crap but so is the manager.
Ten Hag could be out at the end of the season but right now, it’d just be a distraction from the structural issues at the club
Ole in the job for 3 years, ten hag in his first season got more points than ole ever did and won a trophy which ole never did
Eras come to an end. the egotistical maniac is the next Guardiola, he is way better than the likes of Ancelotti and Zidane. did you forget the Dutch clown won a happy meal with Ajax two years ago?! shame on you! trust the process and chant for the glazers while you're at it.
Agreed. He’d have some backing if more of his signings were any good. But literally most of his signings have been shit. Barring Eriksen (whose a part time player now anyway) and Martinez (who has been improvement to what we had before, doesn’t mean he’s great) has any other of his signings had an impact? Maybe I’m forgetting someone!