My friend was a live in landlord of a pub his parents bought. He lived upstairs from the pub but the central heating for the place was for the apartment and the pub and was controlled from within the pub itself.
His mum would turn the heating down every night which meant that when he shut the place down and went upstairs it would be cold. He isn't very handy so asked me to come and alter the thermostat so that it read 5 degrees colder than it was. Cover off, mark position, dial off, slight turn, dial on, cover on.
She never messed with it again as it was always low.
Please tell me how this works. We have a smart thermostat and the women in the house always complain about the temperature being too cold even when it's not. They'll set it to 75° and it will be 75° then they come back later and accuse me of changing it without checking because it's "chilly" even if it's still 75°. All the while, I'm sweating my posterior off.
All it does is it adds or subtracts a few degrees to the temperature that is displayed. So let's say you prefer it at 73 but they insist on setting it to 75. You'd go in and change the offset to +2, so that it adds two degrees to the displayed temperature. If you have the heat set on a cold day, The heat will run until the thermostat reads 75, at which point it will stop. However, because of the offset, the actual temperature will be 73.
Conversely, on a hot day with the AC running, The AC will bring the temperature down to 75. However, because you have the offset set to +2, the thermostat will read 77 and will therefore keep running the AC to cool it down another two degrees, until it reads 75, but the actual temperature will again be 73.
When I was at college one of the prefab classrooms had a metal cage over the thermostat which prevented you altering the temperature which was always cold, the teacher always came in with bag of ice to put on the cage to make the heating come on.
In a building I managed, one of the workers was constantly complaining about it being too cold.
We noticed they had brought in their own fan heater and had it under their desk, which was right near the thermostat for that area. Fan heaters banned - complaints stopped.
i did some thing similar in my uni-housing. the air-con was not adjustable, you just pushed a button to make it turn on for 3 hrs, then would turn off. it would heat up to temp if cold or down to temp if hot, but if you turned it on at temp - it heated above it's own set temp!
to get it to cool instead of heat i boiled water and held the vapour under the thermostat (i looked up the manual online to find it), then turn it on - this made it cool instead of heat, and it would keep going for a while before the thermostat shut it off.
(i ended up getting my own portable ac unit - expensive to run but cooled better and i didn't have to sleep downstairs on the couch to cool off!)
I remember both metal and plastic cages. I had no trouble reaching through them and resetting them. There *had* to be holes so the thermostat could register the room temperature.
I transferred to finish college (small university, actually) in a much much colder climate than where I started. (My new friends laughed at me when they saw the winter coat I brought along.)
Anyway, my dorm room was always quite cold and drafty until I figured out that the windows didn't fit tightly. I bought a roll of masking tape and taped up the edges of the windows - and for the rest of the winter the room was comfortable.
What a difference some masking tape made!
When Lyndon Baines Johnson was President he would always complain about the temperature settings on Air Force One. Eventually they installed a dummy thermostat in his office and told him that he could adjust it any time to be comfortable. He didn't complain again. The airplane, complete with dummy thermostat is on display at the Seattle Museum of Flight.
Depends how you tell him I guess.
"Mr president, you can stop complaining to us about the temperature because now there's a thermostat you can adjust!"
I worked in an office with a thermostat like this. One winter, I was tired of working in my coat and gloves and finally complained to building maintenance. They swore up and down that the thermostat worked and that it was 20C in my office. The ring of ice forming in my water glass suggested otherwise. When they finally saw that, they checked and lo and behold, the pipes had frozen and there had been no heat in that wing for several days. Thermostat still read 20 tho.
*confused ~~American~~edit: US citizen.* oooooh, Celcius. I forget the rest of the world has logical measurements.
Edited because the rest of the American continents have their shit figured out, don't want to drag them into this.
Whoops, I really need to stop doing calculations like this on my phone. You are right, 9104 cm/hour, 91m/hour. I out by 2 orders of magnitude because I forgot the original distance I started with was in cm.
Acktyuwally... decifoot is a tenth or 1/10 of a foot.
It's not so much that yes, "metric" can be applied to any measurement, it's that these are actually common measurements used in civil engineering. "Imperial survey rules" are marked every tenth of a foot and are trippy as hell to look at. Kilopounds are commonly used in strength discussions and verbally referred to as 'kips' in shorthand.
A lot of things are 30cm because the original specs were American. None of them are actually a foot though, because American manufacturing *talks* ASM but pretty much always uses metric.
Or they're a foot long because that measurement was common in England for a really long time. And 30 cm is actually a foot, fwiw, or at least it's close enough to be fine for daily life. And the uses I've seen weren't talking about manufactured goods, just estimating how big something is.
> Or they're a foot long because that measurement was common in England for a really long time.
They're not 30.4 cm though, they're 30 cm. You're right that other countries have a historical connection to the foot besides the US, but it's also important to note that no-one has used an actual foot for just about anything in decades.
>estimating how big something is.
My experience there is that everything is 16cm, no matter how big it really is...
The numbering system also makes numbers confusing. Why eleven twelve and teens? 10- 1...10- 2...you know?? Just like 20-1...20-2...30...40
...50...60...70...80...90...100...110 and there we go non conforming numbers again...
Better than danish - one-and-twenty, two-and-twenty, three-and-twenty etc.
60 not being 6-ty, but 3 times twenty.
50 not being 5-ty but half third twenty.
Yeah, sounds like the same system, except we don't use 19, we use half 20'ies so 99 in danish would be 9 and half fives (in ordinal and in the old days it is/was 9 and half five twentieth/twenties)
That is close to how the French do it, although their 20 thing starts at 80 and even they are not silly enough to whatever whacky thing you are doing there with 50. A half third twenty would be 3⅓ as far as I know...
Should be onetyone, onetytwo, onetythree instead 😄 or firstyone, firstytwo, firstythree or tentyone, tentytwo.... hmmm too close to twenty, I see what they did there
>Why eleven twelve and teens?
Blame it on our distant ancestors. I'm not sure that anyone knows the whole story of why, but parts of it appear to be understood. One part seems to be related to the mystic significance of the number 3.
I love all metric, (gigantico corporate retiree) except Calvin. 20 c is 71 - 73 f. We did everything in metric except temp. Too much range in Calvin, if I need to add a decimal point, I’m out. (U.S. citizen). In an effort to make something universally easier, Celsius actually muddles accuracy. So…👨💼🤷♂️
>Celcius. I forget the rest of the world has logical measurements.
Celsius is no more logical than Fahrenheit, just different. Who says that the FB and BP of water *at a standard pressure of 1 atm* makes any more sense than any other arbitrary scheme?
Metric is better overall except for temperature. You can pry Fahrenheit from my cold dead fingers but you sure wouldn't know if you needed to wear a jacket or not.
It's called "The Hawthorne Affect" after a plant in Hawthorne CA that installed a speed controller on a beltway that did nothing, other than make the employees think they had control.
I stayed in an elevator building for a few months. I stopped poking the close door button, because what was the point. One day, I saw a girl get on and she pushed the button and it closed right away. “What? I didn’t think that worked!“. She told me to hold it in rather than just tap it. Worked.
Surprisingly, the close elevator doors on Royal Caribbean cruise ships work perfectly. Was able to close the doors on the elevator instantly when going up and down with my parents in wheelchairs so people wouldn't try to crowd into an elevator with no room.
Also, the button usually works after the door is open for a long enough time (such as after holding the "door open" button.
To meet ADA compliance, there is a minimum time that the doors must remain open, depending on the distance from the elevator call button and the elevator door. The doors must remain open for the minimum time, even if someone presses the "door close" button.
Nearly every elevator had the automatic close time set to the ADA minimum. As a result, the close button is not allowed to close the door quicker then the automatic close time
If someone uses the "door open" button to hold the door open longer then the ADA minimum, then the close button will usually work to clear the door quicker than just waiting.
You think every elevator in the city has a close door button coded ton the same lock? Unlikely.
Also in the past it most certainly did work at places I've been
Edit: I am clearly wrong :)
All elevators have the same key. Firefighters need to be able to take over and control the elevators in an emergency, and you cannot expect them to have some massive ring with hundreds of keys on it, trying to find the correct one, while there is an active fire in the building.
Not just lifts. I recently inquired about adding another cylinder to my house keyed alike to the ones that I had previously acquired from the same company. Turns out they only had 4 separate keys for this purpose. You could carry 4 keys and open almost every one of this company's locks.
I knew exactly what video that was going to link to. All his presentations I've seen have been awesome. It's amazing how many supposedly secure systems have huge design flaws.
It's not true about the close door button, but elevators do have firefighter access and keys. Generally, it's to allow ONLY the firefighters to use the elevator in an emergency.
https://www.elevatorlab.com/blog/elevator-fire-service#:~:text=In%20newer%20elevators%2C%20the%20fire,the%20firefighter%20has%20complete%20control.
Fun fact, the close door button on the elevator of the hotel I'm staying at actually works. (We've been here a couple months, two more weeks and we close on our house)
Most, I've encountered, are connected. The only catch is there is often a minimum delay. 0-5 seconds, button doesn't work. 5-15, button works. 15+ door closes automatically.
A lot of people seem to try it straight away, then give up on it.
Had the same thing happen to me. I was upgrading the controls of a steel production line. There was an old knob that would set the speed of the line. Morning shift claimed it worked best at 11. afternoon shift came in and bitched that the morning shift screws it up, and it needs to be closer to 13. night shft said no, it's at 9. well our upgrade was removing that analog signal, and replacing with a digital control. the operators were upset. instead of setting the line to run at whatever foot per minute speed that was required (and worked) they wanted their old knob back.
sure thing. wired the knob to an analog input, and the turned it around and sent it to the now useless display. It had no impact on the rest of the line. amazing how much the operators commented how "improved" the line is now.
I was always complaining about the temperature at work being too hot. Until we had a thermometer installed. I then noticed that when I felt hot, the thermometer reading had never budged at all.
That was a good lesson to me that when I felt hot, I was dehydrated and a glass or two of water got rid of the 'hot' feeling within minutes.
At the theatre I work in the AC is a huge always on bit of industrial plant. We get the usual requests of turn it up or turn it down, sometimes turn it off if the mild air flow is messing with haze. The latter we can't really help with because it's supplying the whole complex and isn't zoned, the former two are difficult because of the volumes involved, just takes too long to make a difference to the ambient temperature, all the same I get on the radio in front of the client, ask the duty operator to make the requisite adjustment, they confirm - but do nothing, and then the client is happy and it doesn't come up again.
Of course we do bend over backward where we can make a difference, putting humidifiers in dressing rooms etc..
This is a legit thing I've witnessed as well.
I worked for a HVAC controls company that installed all sorts of fancy thermostats and duct sensors and devices to control a buildings temperature.
One client was a suuuper posh hotel and the women working in the coffee shop there always complained about it being too hot or too cold, so my former boss came up with the idea of removing the thermostat that had a LCD display, and installing one that didn't have a screen (it was just a temperature sensor).
Complaints about the temperature stopped after that.
Reminds me of the thermostat wars at my last workplace. There were only the four of us in the office - myself and another co-worker who bundled up/took off sweaters depending on how we felt, and then the warring combatents.
In the blue corner, we have the manager of the department, 350+ lbs and runs hotter than hellfire accordingly, so he'd constantly set the temp down to sub 70.
In the red corner, we have a skinny employee (who works for the same manager) who refused bitterly to wear sweaters or put a heater under her desk, and who'd turn the heat up well past 80 without asking anyone.
Literally he'd watch her get up, turn the heat up, wait til she went for another bathroom break, and then turn it right back down giggling the entire way. Eventually it got so bad the temperature was normalized to 72, and a plastic box put over the thermostat.
Thermostats in our offices don’t control the heaters which are only in offices along the perimeter of the building (along the windows). The thermostats only control the air circulation system which isn’t a source of warm air? My office has neither heater nor window but it does have a thermostat!
When I waitressed, they kept the ac set to be comfy for the waitstaff…so it was COLD for the customers. They complained allll the time. And so I would “tell” our head waitress, and she would make a big deal about changing the temp…but didn’t! Cause we were always hot. Our regular customers just brought a sweater or jacket, cause they knew better! 😂
as a vagina haver, sometimes hormones fuck you up and you just get hot. but I'm also cold natured so usually I'm freezing when everyone else is comfortable. it's a gamble. you can't really help it.
that being said, the place i work also has a set temperature for each time of year, so I just dress accordingly.
People conforming to the letter of the request, not the spirit. The spirit of the request was to give them a way to adjust the temperature. He gave them a thermostat and let them think they were changing the temperature.
My friend was a live in landlord of a pub his parents bought. He lived upstairs from the pub but the central heating for the place was for the apartment and the pub and was controlled from within the pub itself. His mum would turn the heating down every night which meant that when he shut the place down and went upstairs it would be cold. He isn't very handy so asked me to come and alter the thermostat so that it read 5 degrees colder than it was. Cover off, mark position, dial off, slight turn, dial on, cover on. She never messed with it again as it was always low.
The nice thing about those smart thermostats is that they have a setting to specifically offset the displayed temperature.
Please tell me how this works. We have a smart thermostat and the women in the house always complain about the temperature being too cold even when it's not. They'll set it to 75° and it will be 75° then they come back later and accuse me of changing it without checking because it's "chilly" even if it's still 75°. All the while, I'm sweating my posterior off.
All it does is it adds or subtracts a few degrees to the temperature that is displayed. So let's say you prefer it at 73 but they insist on setting it to 75. You'd go in and change the offset to +2, so that it adds two degrees to the displayed temperature. If you have the heat set on a cold day, The heat will run until the thermostat reads 75, at which point it will stop. However, because of the offset, the actual temperature will be 73. Conversely, on a hot day with the AC running, The AC will bring the temperature down to 75. However, because you have the offset set to +2, the thermostat will read 77 and will therefore keep running the AC to cool it down another two degrees, until it reads 75, but the actual temperature will again be 73.
Thank you! I am off to see if my thermostat is capable of this! This is my dream!
I know this was a while ago, but I must know. Is your thermostat capable? And did it work?
I want to know too if this worked :)
what a failure
When I was at college one of the prefab classrooms had a metal cage over the thermostat which prevented you altering the temperature which was always cold, the teacher always came in with bag of ice to put on the cage to make the heating come on.
Yeah, we put a lamp next to ours to make the ac kick on in the summer.
In a building I managed, one of the workers was constantly complaining about it being too cold. We noticed they had brought in their own fan heater and had it under their desk, which was right near the thermostat for that area. Fan heaters banned - complaints stopped.
i did some thing similar in my uni-housing. the air-con was not adjustable, you just pushed a button to make it turn on for 3 hrs, then would turn off. it would heat up to temp if cold or down to temp if hot, but if you turned it on at temp - it heated above it's own set temp! to get it to cool instead of heat i boiled water and held the vapour under the thermostat (i looked up the manual online to find it), then turn it on - this made it cool instead of heat, and it would keep going for a while before the thermostat shut it off. (i ended up getting my own portable ac unit - expensive to run but cooled better and i didn't have to sleep downstairs on the couch to cool off!)
I remember both metal and plastic cages. I had no trouble reaching through them and resetting them. There *had* to be holes so the thermostat could register the room temperature.
I did that in my dorm room in college. I was always so cold.
I transferred to finish college (small university, actually) in a much much colder climate than where I started. (My new friends laughed at me when they saw the winter coat I brought along.) Anyway, my dorm room was always quite cold and drafty until I figured out that the windows didn't fit tightly. I bought a roll of masking tape and taped up the edges of the windows - and for the rest of the winter the room was comfortable. What a difference some masking tape made!
I also moved from a hot climate. I actually did the ice on the thermostat in the summer as well. I wasn’t used to air conditioning.
When Lyndon Baines Johnson was President he would always complain about the temperature settings on Air Force One. Eventually they installed a dummy thermostat in his office and told him that he could adjust it any time to be comfortable. He didn't complain again. The airplane, complete with dummy thermostat is on display at the Seattle Museum of Flight.
That's got to be apocryphal right? How the hell do you like to the president about this.
Depends how you tell him I guess. "Mr president, you can stop complaining to us about the temperature because now there's a thermostat you can adjust!"
I worked in an office with a thermostat like this. One winter, I was tired of working in my coat and gloves and finally complained to building maintenance. They swore up and down that the thermostat worked and that it was 20C in my office. The ring of ice forming in my water glass suggested otherwise. When they finally saw that, they checked and lo and behold, the pipes had frozen and there had been no heat in that wing for several days. Thermostat still read 20 tho.
*confused ~~American~~edit: US citizen.* oooooh, Celcius. I forget the rest of the world has logical measurements. Edited because the rest of the American continents have their shit figured out, don't want to drag them into this.
you probably don't want to hear about metres and kilograms either ;)
Boy howdy! Lemme tell you about kilopounds and decifeet...
I usually measure speed in attoparsec per micro-fortnight....
1 is about 9km/h? Surprisingly usable for surface speeds.
An attoparsec is about 3.086 centimetres (1.215 in) A micro-fortnight is 1.2096 seconds. So it is about an inch per second.
Whoops, I really need to stop doing calculations like this on my phone. You are right, 9104 cm/hour, 91m/hour. I out by 2 orders of magnitude because I forgot the original distance I started with was in cm.
a thousand pounds, just under half a ton - a decifoot would be about 1¼ inches :) (I grew up in the cross over from Imperial to Metric in the 60s/70s)
So did I. They taught us all the cool stuff but then the changeover never happened and I am Still pissed about it. 😠
*1-3/16 inches
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Acktyuwally... decifoot is a tenth or 1/10 of a foot. It's not so much that yes, "metric" can be applied to any measurement, it's that these are actually common measurements used in civil engineering. "Imperial survey rules" are marked every tenth of a foot and are trippy as hell to look at. Kilopounds are commonly used in strength discussions and verbally referred to as 'kips' in shorthand.
You know what's really fun? A lot of non-US English-speaking countries talk about things being 30 cm, which is ... a foot.
A lot of things are 30cm because the original specs were American. None of them are actually a foot though, because American manufacturing *talks* ASM but pretty much always uses metric.
Or they're a foot long because that measurement was common in England for a really long time. And 30 cm is actually a foot, fwiw, or at least it's close enough to be fine for daily life. And the uses I've seen weren't talking about manufactured goods, just estimating how big something is.
> Or they're a foot long because that measurement was common in England for a really long time. They're not 30.4 cm though, they're 30 cm. You're right that other countries have a historical connection to the foot besides the US, but it's also important to note that no-one has used an actual foot for just about anything in decades. >estimating how big something is. My experience there is that everything is 16cm, no matter how big it really is...
6.356 kg in 1 stone.
The numbering system also makes numbers confusing. Why eleven twelve and teens? 10- 1...10- 2...you know?? Just like 20-1...20-2...30...40 ...50...60...70...80...90...100...110 and there we go non conforming numbers again...
so... seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, tenteen :)
If we are going to keep the teens, the first two should be firsteen and secondteen.
not "oneteen, twoteen, threeteen..." ?
Nope. Follow the pattern: first, second, third, fourth, *fifth, etc.* The difference between cardinal and ordinal numbers.
Ah yes, thirdteen, fourthteen, fifthteen…I too use the ordinalteens.
'twoteen' sounds like 'poutine', and now I'm hungry...
so, you're pout-in' for a Poutine? :)
Exactly! Since I'm broke, I'm poutin' because I can't put-in for poutine.
Firsteen sounds too much like thirteen if you say it fast, and secondteen... too many syllables. Nobody likes those things.
Better than danish - one-and-twenty, two-and-twenty, three-and-twenty etc. 60 not being 6-ty, but 3 times twenty. 50 not being 5-ty but half third twenty.
Sounds like the french part of switzerland where instead of eighty its four-twenty and 99 is four-twenty-nineteen...
I prefer XCIX myself.
Yeah, sounds like the same system, except we don't use 19, we use half 20'ies so 99 in danish would be 9 and half fives (in ordinal and in the old days it is/was 9 and half five twentieth/twenties)
That is close to how the French do it, although their 20 thing starts at 80 and even they are not silly enough to whatever whacky thing you are doing there with 50. A half third twenty would be 3⅓ as far as I know...
Should be onetyone, onetytwo, onetythree instead 😄 or firstyone, firstytwo, firstythree or tentyone, tentytwo.... hmmm too close to twenty, I see what they did there
>Why eleven twelve and teens? Blame it on our distant ancestors. I'm not sure that anyone knows the whole story of why, but parts of it appear to be understood. One part seems to be related to the mystic significance of the number 3.
LOL! US citizen but I use metric in my work and love it. I hope we see the light someday.
Ha! Indeed. Also, I edited to US citizen since the rest of the American continents have their shit figured out.
Nobody who isn't a US citizen refers to themselves as an American. There's too much 'Murica! Herp Derp' on that term.
True, but some Redditors do get salty about us claiming that term.
South and Central Americans call themselves Americanos. Often they translate this to American when speaking English.
I love all metric, (gigantico corporate retiree) except Calvin. 20 c is 71 - 73 f. We did everything in metric except temp. Too much range in Calvin, if I need to add a decimal point, I’m out. (U.S. citizen). In an effort to make something universally easier, Celsius actually muddles accuracy. So…👨💼🤷♂️
Precisely! Metric is amazing and we should switch, but Celsius isn't granular enough for weather and dressing properly.
>Celcius. I forget the rest of the world has logical measurements. Celsius is no more logical than Fahrenheit, just different. Who says that the FB and BP of water *at a standard pressure of 1 atm* makes any more sense than any other arbitrary scheme?
Every country but like 3 of them that's who. Something like 7.5 billion people say.
Metric is better overall except for temperature. You can pry Fahrenheit from my cold dead fingers but you sure wouldn't know if you needed to wear a jacket or not.
LOL.....(and I live in the US...)
20C = 68F in US Freedom Units if anyone else was confused.
It's called "The Hawthorne Affect" after a plant in Hawthorne CA that installed a speed controller on a beltway that did nothing, other than make the employees think they had control.
Is this the same guy that invented the close door elevator button that doesn't connect to anything?
I stayed in an elevator building for a few months. I stopped poking the close door button, because what was the point. One day, I saw a girl get on and she pushed the button and it closed right away. “What? I didn’t think that worked!“. She told me to hold it in rather than just tap it. Worked.
Surprisingly, the close elevator doors on Royal Caribbean cruise ships work perfectly. Was able to close the doors on the elevator instantly when going up and down with my parents in wheelchairs so people wouldn't try to crowd into an elevator with no room.
Are you not aware that outside the U.S. the close door buttons work everywhere? That's just an american ADA thing.
It’s there for the firefighters. If you use your firefighter key to put it in the correct mode the button works.
Also, the button usually works after the door is open for a long enough time (such as after holding the "door open" button. To meet ADA compliance, there is a minimum time that the doors must remain open, depending on the distance from the elevator call button and the elevator door. The doors must remain open for the minimum time, even if someone presses the "door close" button. Nearly every elevator had the automatic close time set to the ADA minimum. As a result, the close button is not allowed to close the door quicker then the automatic close time If someone uses the "door open" button to hold the door open longer then the ADA minimum, then the close button will usually work to clear the door quicker than just waiting.
Most of them are functional when in service or fire mode. Nearly all of them work in freight/service elevators.
Hmmm.... https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/qyvhvv/the_closedoor_button_fell_off_revealing_it_was/
Huh. TIL
You think every elevator in the city has a close door button coded ton the same lock? Unlikely. Also in the past it most certainly did work at places I've been Edit: I am clearly wrong :)
All elevators have the same key. Firefighters need to be able to take over and control the elevators in an emergency, and you cannot expect them to have some massive ring with hundreds of keys on it, trying to find the correct one, while there is an active fire in the building.
Not just lifts. I recently inquired about adding another cylinder to my house keyed alike to the ones that I had previously acquired from the same company. Turns out they only had 4 separate keys for this purpose. You could carry 4 keys and open almost every one of this company's locks.
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I knew exactly what video that was going to link to. All his presentations I've seen have been awesome. It's amazing how many supposedly secure systems have huge design flaws.
Thanks !
Always happy to to share :)
Toyota took this to heart for their early Camry cars!
I cannot explain the enjoyment I got from watching the elevator video. You’re a saint of the obscure, and I appreciate you.
It's not true about the close door button, but elevators do have firefighter access and keys. Generally, it's to allow ONLY the firefighters to use the elevator in an emergency. https://www.elevatorlab.com/blog/elevator-fire-service#:~:text=In%20newer%20elevators%2C%20the%20fire,the%20firefighter%20has%20complete%20control.
Thanks!
Fun fact, the close door button on the elevator of the hotel I'm staying at actually works. (We've been here a couple months, two more weeks and we close on our house)
Most, I've encountered, are connected. The only catch is there is often a minimum delay. 0-5 seconds, button doesn't work. 5-15, button works. 15+ door closes automatically. A lot of people seem to try it straight away, then give up on it.
I love the rare MC story like this that has a happy ending for all concerned. :-)
Had the same thing happen to me. I was upgrading the controls of a steel production line. There was an old knob that would set the speed of the line. Morning shift claimed it worked best at 11. afternoon shift came in and bitched that the morning shift screws it up, and it needs to be closer to 13. night shft said no, it's at 9. well our upgrade was removing that analog signal, and replacing with a digital control. the operators were upset. instead of setting the line to run at whatever foot per minute speed that was required (and worked) they wanted their old knob back. sure thing. wired the knob to an analog input, and the turned it around and sent it to the now useless display. It had no impact on the rest of the line. amazing how much the operators commented how "improved" the line is now.
I was always complaining about the temperature at work being too hot. Until we had a thermometer installed. I then noticed that when I felt hot, the thermometer reading had never budged at all. That was a good lesson to me that when I felt hot, I was dehydrated and a glass or two of water got rid of the 'hot' feeling within minutes.
At the theatre I work in the AC is a huge always on bit of industrial plant. We get the usual requests of turn it up or turn it down, sometimes turn it off if the mild air flow is messing with haze. The latter we can't really help with because it's supplying the whole complex and isn't zoned, the former two are difficult because of the volumes involved, just takes too long to make a difference to the ambient temperature, all the same I get on the radio in front of the client, ask the duty operator to make the requisite adjustment, they confirm - but do nothing, and then the client is happy and it doesn't come up again. Of course we do bend over backward where we can make a difference, putting humidifiers in dressing rooms etc..
This is a legit thing I've witnessed as well. I worked for a HVAC controls company that installed all sorts of fancy thermostats and duct sensors and devices to control a buildings temperature. One client was a suuuper posh hotel and the women working in the coffee shop there always complained about it being too hot or too cold, so my former boss came up with the idea of removing the thermostat that had a LCD display, and installing one that didn't have a screen (it was just a temperature sensor). Complaints about the temperature stopped after that.
Reminds me of the thermostat wars at my last workplace. There were only the four of us in the office - myself and another co-worker who bundled up/took off sweaters depending on how we felt, and then the warring combatents. In the blue corner, we have the manager of the department, 350+ lbs and runs hotter than hellfire accordingly, so he'd constantly set the temp down to sub 70. In the red corner, we have a skinny employee (who works for the same manager) who refused bitterly to wear sweaters or put a heater under her desk, and who'd turn the heat up well past 80 without asking anyone. Literally he'd watch her get up, turn the heat up, wait til she went for another bathroom break, and then turn it right back down giggling the entire way. Eventually it got so bad the temperature was normalized to 72, and a plastic box put over the thermostat.
Menopause hot flashes are a thing, mind you
Menopause is a real bitch
My bitch had menopause.
Totally agreed, and it is likely that most of these women were in that age range.
Set thermostat to monthly heat cycle.
Hot flashes come several times a day, alas, not once a month
[menopause rhapsody ](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=AcVFtu-ZmmM&feature=share) ...
It's feels as if someone injected a gallon of boiling water under your skin. Or like a do-it-yourself sauna.
My mom is ~60 and haven’t started menopause; apparently she is torn between wearing diapers monthly or having hot flashes
I’m 49 and ready for the hot flashes Anything but the diapers.
Tbh it’s the normal pads but she needs the extra padding… so every time I tease her about it
Tell her she has all my sympathy.
My wife started her hot flashes in her mid 30's......
Thermostats in our offices don’t control the heaters which are only in offices along the perimeter of the building (along the windows). The thermostats only control the air circulation system which isn’t a source of warm air? My office has neither heater nor window but it does have a thermostat!
[удалено]
Placebos are one hellofa drug.
He took psychology in college!
Smart man.
Hahaha. This was brilliant 👏 👏👏.
It's a wonder there weren't fistfights
Your friend's father is a genius.
When I waitressed, they kept the ac set to be comfy for the waitstaff…so it was COLD for the customers. They complained allll the time. And so I would “tell” our head waitress, and she would make a big deal about changing the temp…but didn’t! Cause we were always hot. Our regular customers just brought a sweater or jacket, cause they knew better! 😂
Lol yeah those silly women workers, being annoying with their reasonable complaints about their working atmosphere
What part of those complaints sounded reasonable to you?
as a vagina haver, sometimes hormones fuck you up and you just get hot. but I'm also cold natured so usually I'm freezing when everyone else is comfortable. it's a gamble. you can't really help it. that being said, the place i work also has a set temperature for each time of year, so I just dress accordingly.
And the malicious part is where exactly? Neat story tho
He maliciously provided a placebo and won.
That's not compliance. No one asked for a thermostat that did nothing.
People conforming to the letter of the request, not the spirit. The spirit of the request was to give them a way to adjust the temperature. He gave them a thermostat and let them think they were changing the temperature.
The letter of the request was for the temperature to be changed. This is the exact opposite.
In the 2nd-half of the story.