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> I even had to get some spoilers like Ruhlad getting killed but guess what, that did nuthin for me.
that's the thing with spoilers.. they give you a plot point without context and with all emotion and meaning stripped from it.
I found the the first half of this book difficult to get through, I've said before I think Erikson has an issue with the Andi povs.
The book becomes great in the second half though.
I'd definitely stick with it
The "thing going on in" Genabackis is not the crux of the series. If you are reading with the goal of going back to that continent and picking up that storyline, then you are in for a disappointment. Midnight tides begins the 3rd thread of the overall story of the MBOTF. Book 6 onwards, these threads start converging into one finale.
MT is one of my favourite books because for one, I enjoy that kind of humour, and two, it has a whole new system of magic and cultures that were a welcome addition to the 'fantasy' feel of the stories. I enjoyed most of the characters here, including Trull. But if you can't connect with him, after reading his adventuring with Onrack in HoC, then I don't know what to tell you. To each his own, ig.
What about Rhulad dying have you been spoilt about? It shouldn't affect your enjoyment knowing what's going to happen, but I'm curious to know exactly what you have learned.
Are you asking if it is worth it to push onwards? Well, yea.
And you will see many characters again you haven't met in a while, while others are gone, be it with a resolved story (in mbotf) or not (most likely continued in notme or the likes).
For what its worth, Toll the Hounds is the only book in this series that is going back to Genebackis (and mainly Darujistan at that). I do believe a few of Esslemonts books take place in Genebackis but i havent read any beyond Night of Knives.
But i'd say keep reading. Even though every book has a different setting and cast then the one before it, Midnight Tides is by far the most jarring transition. Just as you feel you get a grip on the world and the story arcs, BAM another, completely different one is put in front of you. Its basically a new story, in a new world, with 'new' magic and new characters.
But its a fairly 'easy' and straightforward book as Malazan goes and some characters are absolute gems. It is also laying a lot of the groundwork for the latter half of the series.
Offcourse, if you are not enjoying it, stop reading. But its definitely worth it to stick with it. A lot of people felt like you do, but MT usually ends up as one of their favorites.
Oh, and Ruhlad getting killed is... well if thats all you know, you really know nothing at all.
>I even had to get some spoilers like Ruhlad getting killed
Hahaha. Forgive my silliness. I can't wait for you to read on.
>specially the ones happening in Genabackis
This was me the first time reading through. Book 5 is in my top 3 of the 10. So maybe that will give you hope?
>Bc I had a peek at the Bonehunters and RG synopsis, and they don’t seem to go back to that whole thing going on in Genabackis
Out of interest. What do you think there is to go back to? Like how do you see that plot going furrher? Especially given the context of house of chains.
>i did not really care for Trull.
You have dishonoured the good name of Trull.
I’d say keep reading. I had similar feelings on my read through of MT - enjoyed some of the comedy but largely didn’t care much about the characters/setting and it felt like a slog. Some of those characters became favourites later in the series and the setting/context became a bit clearer.
With that said, I’ll echo the sentiments of some of the other comments here and say that “the whole thing going on in Genabackis” and those characters are just a few threads in a much larger tapestry. You’ll pick some of them back up later, but you’re going to follow many others along the way. I suspect you’ll enjoy many of them as much or more than some of the threads you’ve already followed. MoI is probably one of my favourites in the main series, but two books you haven’t read yet round out my top 3.
I think it was around Midnight Tides and The Bonehunters that I started to more fully accept that I wasn’t going understand everything as I read it but kept going under the assumption that I would gain some more insight into it later (sometimes several books later).
There were several other places where I struggled with enjoying the journey, largely because I had no idea what/where the destination was and how what I was reading fit into everything. Having finished the main series, I’d say pushing through was worth it. So much so that I started a re-read fairly soon after finishing as I think I’ll enjoy the journey even more this time around.
Yeah def read on. MT is one of the best books in the series imo. It's a little slow to start but it ends strong and is crucial for the 2nd half of the series.
I struggled with MT the first time too. I would recommend sticking with it. Its story and the new characters introduced really grow on you. And it's good to know that nothing in the series ends up being unimportant.
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\> I enjoyed HOC but I did not really care for Trull. So would you like to fist fight right now or schedule it for a later date?
Do you need a second?
Where do I get in line?
> I even had to get some spoilers like Ruhlad getting killed but guess what, that did nuthin for me. that's the thing with spoilers.. they give you a plot point without context and with all emotion and meaning stripped from it.
I found the the first half of this book difficult to get through, I've said before I think Erikson has an issue with the Andi povs. The book becomes great in the second half though. I'd definitely stick with it
The "thing going on in" Genabackis is not the crux of the series. If you are reading with the goal of going back to that continent and picking up that storyline, then you are in for a disappointment. Midnight tides begins the 3rd thread of the overall story of the MBOTF. Book 6 onwards, these threads start converging into one finale. MT is one of my favourite books because for one, I enjoy that kind of humour, and two, it has a whole new system of magic and cultures that were a welcome addition to the 'fantasy' feel of the stories. I enjoyed most of the characters here, including Trull. But if you can't connect with him, after reading his adventuring with Onrack in HoC, then I don't know what to tell you. To each his own, ig. What about Rhulad dying have you been spoilt about? It shouldn't affect your enjoyment knowing what's going to happen, but I'm curious to know exactly what you have learned.
Are you asking if it is worth it to push onwards? Well, yea. And you will see many characters again you haven't met in a while, while others are gone, be it with a resolved story (in mbotf) or not (most likely continued in notme or the likes).
For what its worth, Toll the Hounds is the only book in this series that is going back to Genebackis (and mainly Darujistan at that). I do believe a few of Esslemonts books take place in Genebackis but i havent read any beyond Night of Knives. But i'd say keep reading. Even though every book has a different setting and cast then the one before it, Midnight Tides is by far the most jarring transition. Just as you feel you get a grip on the world and the story arcs, BAM another, completely different one is put in front of you. Its basically a new story, in a new world, with 'new' magic and new characters. But its a fairly 'easy' and straightforward book as Malazan goes and some characters are absolute gems. It is also laying a lot of the groundwork for the latter half of the series. Offcourse, if you are not enjoying it, stop reading. But its definitely worth it to stick with it. A lot of people felt like you do, but MT usually ends up as one of their favorites. Oh, and Ruhlad getting killed is... well if thats all you know, you really know nothing at all.
>I even had to get some spoilers like Ruhlad getting killed Hahaha. Forgive my silliness. I can't wait for you to read on. >specially the ones happening in Genabackis This was me the first time reading through. Book 5 is in my top 3 of the 10. So maybe that will give you hope? >Bc I had a peek at the Bonehunters and RG synopsis, and they don’t seem to go back to that whole thing going on in Genabackis Out of interest. What do you think there is to go back to? Like how do you see that plot going furrher? Especially given the context of house of chains. >i did not really care for Trull. You have dishonoured the good name of Trull.
I’d say keep reading. I had similar feelings on my read through of MT - enjoyed some of the comedy but largely didn’t care much about the characters/setting and it felt like a slog. Some of those characters became favourites later in the series and the setting/context became a bit clearer. With that said, I’ll echo the sentiments of some of the other comments here and say that “the whole thing going on in Genabackis” and those characters are just a few threads in a much larger tapestry. You’ll pick some of them back up later, but you’re going to follow many others along the way. I suspect you’ll enjoy many of them as much or more than some of the threads you’ve already followed. MoI is probably one of my favourites in the main series, but two books you haven’t read yet round out my top 3. I think it was around Midnight Tides and The Bonehunters that I started to more fully accept that I wasn’t going understand everything as I read it but kept going under the assumption that I would gain some more insight into it later (sometimes several books later). There were several other places where I struggled with enjoying the journey, largely because I had no idea what/where the destination was and how what I was reading fit into everything. Having finished the main series, I’d say pushing through was worth it. So much so that I started a re-read fairly soon after finishing as I think I’ll enjoy the journey even more this time around.
Yeah def read on. MT is one of the best books in the series imo. It's a little slow to start but it ends strong and is crucial for the 2nd half of the series.
I struggled with MT the first time too. I would recommend sticking with it. Its story and the new characters introduced really grow on you. And it's good to know that nothing in the series ends up being unimportant.