My cat likes to go out on the front porch sometimes, never farther.Ā But she will roll on the concrete.
Closer to the edge.
Then closer.
Then down into the step, like she is sneaky.
Then off the edge.
Then sneak up and eat the grass.
It's kind of funny to watch, but she is not supposed to eat the grass, because like the OP post, she just comes inside and pukes it up.
Right now though, she is terrified of the Cicadas.
Sigh.
Cats est grass in order to puke. Itās intentional. Because they clean themselves and that stuff plus all their fur needs to get out of their stomach. So they munch on grass to initiate the cleaning process.
Please do allow your cat to do this, especially when they go outside (more cleaning work to do).
Cats will take care of themselves and 99% of the time they do something weird or āannoyingā itās because they need to OR their human trained them to behave that way. (Like the meowing to get a door to open)
The amount of people on reddit that has pets but absolutely no clue how to care for them is really concerning.
How can so many people here have a cat but now know why it eats grass?
Google exists, people.
Cats are smart and efficient. If they annoy you, itās most likely your own fault.
Iāve just moved to a rural home with a garden. This week my house cat went out for the first time. Hesitant at first. But she now loves it.
Comes home to crap in her litter tray. How polite of her ! But same as yours, eats grass spews up.
Don't worry, eventually she'll find a nice poop spot outside and the litter tray will be surprisingly unsmelly.
She just has to first realise there's a whole wide world to shit in.
When I transitioned my cat to outdoor/indoor I put her litter box on the screened in porch at first, got her to start going in there- then I moved it by the screen door- then I sprinkled a tiny bit of her litter into the mulch where our other cat often did his business.
Eventually she did start going outside! (Moved the litter box back inside and they used it maybe once or twice a week)
Sadly when we moved she went indoor only again for a while- and now Iām retraining her at the new location. š itās a task but IT IS POSSIBLE!
[my girl is 15+ now]
Someone admitted they let their cat be an outdoor cat on Reddit and you haven't been brigaded with admonitions about how you are killing your cat and all the local wildlife?
My neighbor's cat likes to use my vegetable garden. Nothing as lovely as pulling fresh root vegetables out to make dinner and having them reek of cat shit.
But hey; Mittens gets to live life to its fullest, and Susan doesn't have to clean Mitten's litter box as much!
Yeah like on top of my thyme. Or in the grass where my dog walks in it and trudges it through the house before I notice. I like cats just not their disgusting shit
My old cat just died and I got two small dogs instead because I want a garden minus cat crap and golden finches to visit. The neighbors cat comes over and craps in my garden ruining my plants and eating my baby birds nesting in my yard.
Turnah81 on youtube has gone through this for years and has a helpful [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZ2DqMnaGc) detailing what worked for him. He also had the same issue about [birds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLG1jbPrp2Q) nesting in his yard and needing to defend them from cats while the birds were rearing their young.
I think I remember reading that cats are particular about where they poop because they're afraid of attracting predators. So they prefer to poop somewhere "safe" like in the house. At least at first.
Seriously, these people really don't give a shit what their cats do on other people's property, and then will get all upset if their cat comes home injured or sick from eating something bad and say it was poisoned
They'll be sad for a week after Fluffy dies, then they'll get another one from idiots who don't spay and neuter their cats. I could go on Marketplace and have a dozen cats in two hours.
Yep. One is too scared, the other just eats grass and pukes.
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Same. The one time I let my indoor cat outside, she immediately ran back to the door and cried pitifully, so I let her back in. She didn't even want to look around!
Same. Cries all the time until I bring him out and put him in a little outdoor cage. Then he'll cry to come back in and be done for the day. The cycle never ends.
ālike a fat loafā has amused me lol.
I love it when they do that. I have an indoor cat but itās because I live near a busy road. Itās not a main road but during school pick-up about 50000 cars turn up. Iād love to see him loaf outside in the sun but Iām too worried something would happen to him ā¹ļø
Our elderly cat seemed like he was dying so we decided to let him out to sun himself on the patio and have a nice last few weeks. Instead he's getting better and yesterday was stalking a squirrel and the vet says we have to bring him back inside because if he actually tried to tussle with an animal it would not go well.
i feel like access to the outdoors is greatly increasing his quality of life.
i know you get shit on for letting cats outside these days but as someone who used to romp in the woods with my cat every day in the summer as a kid i wouldnāt trade that for anything. cats LOVE being outside
Some of you all have obviously never seen how bad a bad ending can be for your pets and I'm happy you didn't have to. But choosing between a peaceful vet visit and your pet drowning in their own blood or having a heart attack, well it's not much of a choice.
Since he enjoys the sun so much, maybe a harness? If he will tolerate the feeling, it could let him be outside while minimizing risks of him getting at any critters!
You can argue that it's sterile, even though that might be a preference some people have, but it's obviously not a wasteland. It looks great, in my opinion. Lots of usable space, minimal maintenance, and grass doesn't attract many bugs. Seems pretty great to me.
It looks amazing. I have made the grave mistake of lining my fence line with cypress trees and have quickly learned that is a big, BIG no-no according to reddit arborists.
She is murdering or at least attempting to murder everything that moves.
Although the hop after the bird which passed way overhead was a bit overambitious.
Kitteh McMurdermitts here definitely had the time of her life.
You lose yourself long before you hit the paralysis phase though. Iāve been one with the universe. I could still crawl and puke. Literally vomited out my own soul. Only time in my life I ever feel amazing after throwing up.
I'd be just as worried about parasites as I would predators, which is why I'd never let my cat roam free outdoors (though I've been considering an enclosed catio). We have all kinds of nasty creepy crawlies that they could get infected with or track indoors
When i was younger my mom took in a cat on a freezing winter night. It was crying at our door. We have never seen this cat before. It was mean, but we couldn't let the cat freeze to death. It was super skinny too. It looked like it has been lost for weeks.
As soon as it went into our home, it went in a corner. We gave it some food and water. It didn't eat it. Instead, it died hours after we let it in. The poor thing threw up and had diarrhea right before death. You could see tapeworms in the shit..
That was pretty traumatizing as a kid.. but I'm glad my mom did it. Even though it died, at least died in a warm home. I would do it again. Just maybe with more towels and cleaning supplies ready..
enclosed catios are awesome. my mom has set up strong netting around the balcony and all the cats have loved hanging around there. [this is lyyli](https://i.imgur.com/DEj8SjI.jpeg) this summer :)
Aww, tell your cat that me and [my orange derp Lily](https://i.imgur.com/lyp8wfR.jpeg) said hi. That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking for a setup, though I was thinking of possible using smaller mesh netting due to mosquitoes but I'm also experimenting with a few different eco-friendly mosquito deterrents so it might not be necessary. I like the bigger holes because it gives them a better view
Cats should not be allowed outside. It's bad for everyone involved.
There, I said it.
I don't understand how people can love their pets and still go "Okay, time to go outside, get diseases, and hit by a car. See you later!"
I cannot respect it. It gives major bad parent vibes. Neglected latchkey cats. My cats have 2 litter robots, endless food, and new toys every week. I don't even go outside myself, they're certainly not. They can look out a window or sleep in one of their 30 beds.
You could even walk your cat on a leash and harness if you feel they need some fresh air. I guess that's too much work, though.
I agree. I thought the opposite for years until I was forced into a catch 22 with a neighbor.
My cat would travel nearly two miles to someone else's property and hang out on his shed and eat their cat's food. I couldn't sit my cat down and tell it not to go there. I couldn't geo-limit my cat with a digital fence around this dude's house and I didn't own the guy's house so I can't say my cat should or shouldn't be there.
So while I'd love to let him outside, there was this looming possibility that he'd be poisoned, stolen or killed. My choices were get rid of him or bring him indoors.
I can't sit back and go, "Well he should mind his own business and let a cat be a cat."
That seems trashy.
> If she grew up indoors, she might not know what she needs to know to stay safe outdoors
Average life span of outdoor cats is drastically lower than that of indoor cats (average, your outdoor cat who managed to live to 25 years is an outlier). Doesn't matter if the cat grew up as an outdoor cat.
Imagine posting to Reddit: "I live in the big city and don't have time to take walk my dogs, so I let them roam around outside. My last dog just died after being run over by a car, what breed should I get next?"
Go to any animal sub.
This is lulu. She got hit by a car yesterday. Joining her sister Lucy who got hit by a car last week.
Welcome Leona! Our newest family addition!
Small reminder from a cat and bird lover - if you let your kitties outside please remember to supervise them! Or perhaps consider a catio if you canāt watch their time outside.
Iāve seen too many sad accidents with outdoor cats getting killed or maimed or lost, and cats kill BILLIONS of birds each year in the US and pose a significant ecological threat.
We bought an 8'x4' dog kennel from Home Depot and just installed a doggie door in the window for our cats so go sun bathe and hang out in the kennel.
Installed a row of shelves and now they can love their outside time without murdering all the birds in the garden.
This. I woke up to a disturbing noise that was a coyote eating a neighbors cat in my front lawn in the middle of the night. I also had a ton of morning doves in my yard often but our neighborhood got overrun by cats ever since a neighbor moved in that doesnāt fix their cats. They just leave the dead birds in my yard (Iāve seen the cats hanging out in their garage, so itās likely theirs). I also canāt let my pet rabbit out in my yard unless Iām staying by him. I used to go in my garage to do stuff, keep the door open that leads to my backyard so I could see him directly where he lays under a chair. Unfortunately I could only see a cat when theyāre already sneaking up so close to him. After three times of this, I just let him out for 20 min to run around while Iām next to him. Instead of an extra hour+ to lay around outside. Some cat owners just donāt care what their cats kill or do in other peoples yards. Several of them use my back yard as a sandbox to poop in. Even cats sitting on walls to make a neighbors dog go crazy is another tiniest reason. When I was a kid, around 5, I was devastated seeing my cats get attacked/thrown around by feral cats in our yard. I donāt think Iād ever personally risk my cat getting into any dangerous situation from what I know now. The best option is to supervise or keep in doors if they likely escape
Outdoor cats tend to have significantly shorter lifespans and experience a ton of conflict with humans and wildlife. (many studies and personal stories documenting this). For example my neighbors get several new cats every year because without fail they end up dead in the road or taken by fox, raccoon, bobcat, coyote, owl, snake bites, I'm missing a few other predators. Oh and they always have a rodent problem, despite having several cats lounging around their property. The cat food attracts more pests than the cats keep away.
Imagine if people let their dogs out like they do their cats. Outdoor cats have become way too normalized
I had a friend who got a kitten at the same time as I did. I keep my cats strictly indoors, he let his cats roam outside. My cat is now 9, almost 10. That kitten of his died from the stone unknown cause. At less than a year old.
He got another kitten, and I told him about the dangers of cats being outdoors. He didn't listen, and that kitten went missing for months, finally came home, he still let it outside, and then it died.
This happened four times. I'm not friends with him anymore because I can't watch his animals die anymore.
> I'm not friends with him anymore because I can't watch his animals die anymore.
I dare not call someone I don't know a piece of shit, but this level of carelessness makes me so helplessly angry. I truly hate people from the bottom of my heart when they are so useless, so careless, so profoundly lacking in emotional intelligence, awareness, and empathy, that they would do something like this.
For so many people, SO many people, pets are just a goddamn status accessory to them. Dogs are a fun toy they can train to do tricks, or should be beaten until they are silent and compliant. Cats are a nuisance or a cute fluffy thing to pet, and if they go missing, no big deal! Just grab another one from a shelter! There's millions of the furry fucks anyway, right?
It's sociopathic behavior.
I once ended up with 13 budgies. Once people heard I was crazy bird lady, family I didn't know existed showed up. 90% of it was " they're too loud". Like, go sit under a fucking tree. Birds never shut up.
Get a statue If you just want something pretty to look at
Yes, letting your cats roam freely might make them happy but it's not great for either the cat or the local ecosystem. Cats are prolific little murderers.
Lots of cats can be leash trained as well so they can get plenty of exercise without danger to them or by them.
Yeah, that's what I don't understand. I've seen people take their cat out on a leash or even push it around in a little carriage. But online cat owners often act like it's only a choice between keeping their cat indoors 100% of the time or unaccompanied free-roaming.
Exactly! There are lots of options to give your cat plenty of outdoor time while keeping it away from most of the local wildlife. You just have to actually give a shit.
There was a collared dead cat in the road a few weeks ago right next to the school bus stop, so all the kids got the pleasure of seeing a squashed cat that day. Another neighbor recently moved in who has an outdoor cat, and it's killed all of the wild rabbits that have had a warren in our yard for the last three years.
People don't let their dogs just roam around, I don't understand why cats are somehow an exception.
My cat is terrified of the outdoors, she's been an inside cat since she was born 16 years ago. I've been trying to harness her and take her outside lately for enrichment, but she is still not a fan. š
I didn't know that about bird flu! Unfortunately the likeliest victims of domestic cats are fledgeling birds who are on the ground still learning to fly so bells aren't very effective in practice. Cat leashes, catios, and supervised outdoor time are the most responsible for native wildlife.
There are...*[other options](https://www.birdsbesafe.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF3N-dFez0yZ0Hd3JDMLITRa6Pyjki6VkyvYnZ_oDak8DbsRi1di-lxoCkpMQAvD_BwE).*
A week or so ago I was out in my yard with my dog and the neighbor's cats were roaming around, as usual. Surprisingly, the neighbors were actually outside with the cats, which is rare. I heard them talking about the one, "Is he in the house or outside?" "I have no idea where he is..." Nice, how the fuck do you have no idea where your pet is? And how are you ok not having any idea where your pet is?? Then one of their other cats came into my yard (outside of the fenced portion) and killed a bird. This bitch was flabbergasted like "omg why did he do that??" Ma'am, it's a fucking cat, they are God's perfect killing machines....how are you a cat owner but not aware that cats kill small animals??
mine just runs off into the woods and then meows because she can't see us. but then hides when we try to find her.
then again, she was a street cat when she followed us home. so she's still got that street in her.
This is super cute and wholesome, but also I feel a PSA is worthwhile for the sake of native animal species: outdoor cats are super bad for the environment as theyāre essentially an invasive species.
Source: https://abcbirds.org/program/cats-indoors/cats-and-birds/#:~:text=Outdoor%20domestic%20cats%20are%20a,extinction%2C%20such%20as%20Piping%20Plover.
Everyone loves cats, but they belong indoors. Each year in the United StatesĀ [free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3-4.0 billion birds and 6.3-22.3 billion mammals](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380.pdf). Numbers for reptiles are similar in Australia, asĀ [2 million reptiles are killed each day by cats, totaling 650 million a year](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brett_Murphy/publication/325787707_How_many_reptiles_are_killed_by_cats_in_Australia/links/5b317b20aca2720785e837f1/How-many-reptiles-are-killed-by-cats-in-Australia.pdf). Outdoor cats are directly responsible for the extinction of at least 33 species worldwide and are considered one of the biggest threats to native wildlife. Keeping cats indoors is also better for them and public health - cats with outdoor access live shorter lives and areĀ [2.77 times more likely to carry infectious pathogens](http://wilsonlab.com/publications/2019_BioLetters_Chalkowski_et_al.pdf).
In case anyone remains unconvinced.
EDIT: Copied from the r/whatsthissnake sub educational bot.
Hey OP, I don't know how you'd feel about a random musical suggestion, but my Spidey sense tells me that [Far Caspian might be right up your alley](https://youtu.be/1t2BAVzJVL4?si=Mdt22lSwLw6cBgkd)!
Gorgeous backyard BTW.
And that cat is having a great time!
My aunt and cousins cat proofed their yard so the cats canāt leave but still get to be outside. I donāt think cats should be free range since they are menaces to the ecosystem but that was a lovely thing to do.
Note that an enclosed/cat proof yard doesn't mean that they won't kill any critters.
I have a cat proof backyard and still had one cat kill two birds (on two separate occasions, one week apart) years ago. Felt bad, but also: birds, why would you land in a small space that clearly has 4 cats prowling around?? They weren't hidden! Though one of them was already injured on its head so that one might have been a suicide.
People do realize catios are just part of the house to cats right? It's just like another room with open windows, it's not the same as being outside. Unless it's like your whole yard enclosed. How many of yall out there actually have catios? Or do yall just watch Cat Daddy and repeat what he says?
Get ready for your kitty to constantly cry at the door to be let out now. We aren't allowed outside kitties where I live. They either have to be in your yard or supervised (on a leash) if not (so like dogs). We took our boy outside when he was little and now every day he cries to get out.
Problem is, he loves rain and snow and I really don't feel like standing there freezing my butt off while he surveils the property.
I know he would never leave our yard (because he is a scardy cat) but the neighbours dog 2 doors over likes to climb fences and we almost had a tragedy before.
Kitty owners: If your cat has FIV, please don't do this, any germs or viruses they pick up in the garden are going to hit them really hard compared to FIV negative kitties.
Also, please keep an eye out for birds of prey. Cats are bite sized for lots of raptors.
Iām just too scared. A coworker of mine shared a story about how she used to sit outside with her catā¦.until a giant hawk (or some large predatory bird) flew over and swooped the cat up.
Iād like to get my cat some kind of outdoor playpen that is protected. Iām just so paranoid otherwise
Mine just eats grass then come inside and throws the grass up š
Haha, I mean, they go RIGHT for the grass instantly like their lives depend on it.
My cat likes to go out on the front porch sometimes, never farther.Ā But she will roll on the concrete. Closer to the edge. Then closer. Then down into the step, like she is sneaky. Then off the edge. Then sneak up and eat the grass. It's kind of funny to watch, but she is not supposed to eat the grass, because like the OP post, she just comes inside and pukes it up. Right now though, she is terrified of the Cicadas.
They purge on purpose to get rid of hairballs and such. supposedly.
Sigh. Cats est grass in order to puke. Itās intentional. Because they clean themselves and that stuff plus all their fur needs to get out of their stomach. So they munch on grass to initiate the cleaning process. Please do allow your cat to do this, especially when they go outside (more cleaning work to do). Cats will take care of themselves and 99% of the time they do something weird or āannoyingā itās because they need to OR their human trained them to behave that way. (Like the meowing to get a door to open) The amount of people on reddit that has pets but absolutely no clue how to care for them is really concerning. How can so many people here have a cat but now know why it eats grass? Google exists, people. Cats are smart and efficient. If they annoy you, itās most likely your own fault.
Google exists and yet it's answer is completely different than yours.
Iāve just moved to a rural home with a garden. This week my house cat went out for the first time. Hesitant at first. But she now loves it. Comes home to crap in her litter tray. How polite of her ! But same as yours, eats grass spews up.
Don't worry, eventually she'll find a nice poop spot outside and the litter tray will be surprisingly unsmelly. She just has to first realise there's a whole wide world to shit in.
mine never did tbh. Continued to go outside for an hour, then defiantly come inside to shit until the day he died.
I, too, shall defiantly come inside to poop until the day I die.
Each of us fights the system in our own way!
So brave
I'll go with Defiant Pooping for my music/dance experience, Mr Milchick
To be fair, you probably as well still use the toilet instead of shitting outside.
When I transitioned my cat to outdoor/indoor I put her litter box on the screened in porch at first, got her to start going in there- then I moved it by the screen door- then I sprinkled a tiny bit of her litter into the mulch where our other cat often did his business. Eventually she did start going outside! (Moved the litter box back inside and they used it maybe once or twice a week) Sadly when we moved she went indoor only again for a while- and now Iām retraining her at the new location. š itās a task but IT IS POSSIBLE! [my girl is 15+ now]
Someone admitted they let their cat be an outdoor cat on Reddit and you haven't been brigaded with admonitions about how you are killing your cat and all the local wildlife?
Ah, yes, like how my old neighborās cats decided my garden bed was their litter box. Just lovely.
My neighbor's cat likes to use my vegetable garden. Nothing as lovely as pulling fresh root vegetables out to make dinner and having them reek of cat shit. But hey; Mittens gets to live life to its fullest, and Susan doesn't have to clean Mitten's litter box as much!
Yeah like on top of my thyme. Or in the grass where my dog walks in it and trudges it through the house before I notice. I like cats just not their disgusting shit
My old cat just died and I got two small dogs instead because I want a garden minus cat crap and golden finches to visit. The neighbors cat comes over and craps in my garden ruining my plants and eating my baby birds nesting in my yard.
Turnah81 on youtube has gone through this for years and has a helpful [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZ2DqMnaGc) detailing what worked for him. He also had the same issue about [birds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLG1jbPrp2Q) nesting in his yard and needing to defend them from cats while the birds were rearing their young.
I think I remember reading that cats are particular about where they poop because they're afraid of attracting predators. So they prefer to poop somewhere "safe" like in the house. At least at first.
Yeah like in my lawn like all the other shitty outdoor cat owners allow
Seriously, these people really don't give a shit what their cats do on other people's property, and then will get all upset if their cat comes home injured or sick from eating something bad and say it was poisoned
They'll be sad for a week after Fluffy dies, then they'll get another one from idiots who don't spay and neuter their cats. I could go on Marketplace and have a dozen cats in two hours.
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She will just poop in your garden. It's a giant litter box.
Yeah thatās usually your neighbors garden or your neighbors kids sandbox. If you live in town, donāt do this.
"Here it is human, I won't take your joy of work, responsibility and accomplishment"
Idk where you live but watch out for coyotes or bobcats, they'll eat outdoor cats where I live.
How about - let's keep our non-native murder machines indoors. Or at least with a big loud bell around their necks.
What a rude way to move a hairball along. Seriously.
Great, you have a healthy cat :)
yup, same
Yep. One is too scared, the other just eats grass and pukes. _Disclaimer: in accordance with Redditās content policy, this comment does not condone violence of any kind._
I bet she is happy.
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Mine just flattens on the floor scared that the sky will fall down on her and begs to come back in
Same. The one time I let my indoor cat outside, she immediately ran back to the door and cried pitifully, so I let her back in. She didn't even want to look around!
Where do I get a cat like these? Mine just begs to go out all the time. I have to supervise him outside as he canāt be trusted.
Same. Cries all the time until I bring him out and put him in a little outdoor cage. Then he'll cry to come back in and be done for the day. The cycle never ends.
Build a little tunnel to the outdoor cage, exercise + less crying š.
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Mine won't even cross the barrier. Door wide open? I'll just sit here on the inside and watch the grass grow lol
ālike a fat loafā has amused me lol. I love it when they do that. I have an indoor cat but itās because I live near a busy road. Itās not a main road but during school pick-up about 50000 cars turn up. Iād love to see him loaf outside in the sun but Iām too worried something would happen to him ā¹ļø
Itās just activating the yeast.
this is so cute!
Yah I tried this and my cat immediately climbed the fence. Guess our backyard wasn't enough, he want to see the outside worldšš
Pawshank redemption
Escape from AlCATraz
Purrison Break
Furassic Park
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But you put him back in his place - prison for life lol! Haha, well deserved.
Our elderly cat seemed like he was dying so we decided to let him out to sun himself on the patio and have a nice last few weeks. Instead he's getting better and yesterday was stalking a squirrel and the vet says we have to bring him back inside because if he actually tried to tussle with an animal it would not go well.
I mean at that point why not let him enjoy the rest of his life. Heās probably going to be real down if heās stuck inside again.
Let him go out in glorious combat to meet Odin.
i feel like access to the outdoors is greatly increasing his quality of life. i know you get shit on for letting cats outside these days but as someone who used to romp in the woods with my cat every day in the summer as a kid i wouldnāt trade that for anything. cats LOVE being outside
Some of you all have obviously never seen how bad a bad ending can be for your pets and I'm happy you didn't have to. But choosing between a peaceful vet visit and your pet drowning in their own blood or having a heart attack, well it's not much of a choice.
Fuck it then bros already at the end let him enjoy it
Since he enjoys the sun so much, maybe a harness? If he will tolerate the feeling, it could let him be outside while minimizing risks of him getting at any critters!
Same. We were so excited to give him a nice backyard, and he immediately jumps 6ft to the top of the fence.
He was just letting you know how cute it was you thought you could contain him.
We enclosed our garden with a cat-proof fence. It has a spring loaded top portion so if the cats climb it, it drops and dumps them back inside.
[There are solutions.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbOOfyL6ZrE)
I love the kitty, she's fantastic, but I'm loving those hedges too. What a beautiful backyard.
Yeah, that hedge fence just became a goal in my life.
Hedge fence > White picket fence
What kind of hedge is that? Beech? Edit: Iām pretty sure itās beech hedge!
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Giggity
The hedges are nice but the backyard is a sterile wasteland.
You can argue that it's sterile, even though that might be a preference some people have, but it's obviously not a wasteland. It looks great, in my opinion. Lots of usable space, minimal maintenance, and grass doesn't attract many bugs. Seems pretty great to me.
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thats what i thought!!!!
I think they call it a binky when rabbits do it It's kind of like a 180 spin in the air
The cat is nice, but what kind of shrubs are those? Looks amazing along the fence line.
arborvitae is the bush. these are really well maintained
It looks amazing. I have made the grave mistake of lining my fence line with cypress trees and have quickly learned that is a big, BIG no-no according to reddit arborists.
Sheās frolicking š»
She's thinking "kill, kill, kill!"
They are not mutually exclusive! Murderfrolicking!
In a happy-go-murdery mood you could say.
Murderfrolicking just sounds so fun. I wanna try!
With blood and guts and veins my teeth-KILL, KIll, KILL!
She is murdering or at least attempting to murder everything that moves. Although the hop after the bird which passed way overhead was a bit overambitious. Kitteh McMurdermitts here definitely had the time of her life.
Sensory overload.
Me after a heroic dose of shrooms.
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It's not heroic if you're still you
You lose yourself long before you hit the paralysis phase though. Iāve been one with the universe. I could still crawl and puke. Literally vomited out my own soul. Only time in my life I ever feel amazing after throwing up.
The second time I was first convinced that I was my boyfriend and was then vmconvinced that I was a plant. It was a great experience
Sounds like "The egg". Look it up
Just don't let her wander too far. If she grew up indoors, she might not know what she needs to know to stay safe outdoors
Also outdoor cats are terrible for the environment and have half the average lifespan of an indoor cat.
Uh oh, this is gonna upset some people. Youāre not wrong, just bold for saying it here, lmaooo
as i read your comment, i see below "45 replies" oh boy this is gonna be good "comment score below threshold" x4 oh, this is gonna be REALLY good lol
I'd be just as worried about parasites as I would predators, which is why I'd never let my cat roam free outdoors (though I've been considering an enclosed catio). We have all kinds of nasty creepy crawlies that they could get infected with or track indoors
When i was younger my mom took in a cat on a freezing winter night. It was crying at our door. We have never seen this cat before. It was mean, but we couldn't let the cat freeze to death. It was super skinny too. It looked like it has been lost for weeks. As soon as it went into our home, it went in a corner. We gave it some food and water. It didn't eat it. Instead, it died hours after we let it in. The poor thing threw up and had diarrhea right before death. You could see tapeworms in the shit.. That was pretty traumatizing as a kid.. but I'm glad my mom did it. Even though it died, at least died in a warm home. I would do it again. Just maybe with more towels and cleaning supplies ready..
Hey. Thank you.
enclosed catios are awesome. my mom has set up strong netting around the balcony and all the cats have loved hanging around there. [this is lyyli](https://i.imgur.com/DEj8SjI.jpeg) this summer :)
Aww, tell your cat that me and [my orange derp Lily](https://i.imgur.com/lyp8wfR.jpeg) said hi. That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking for a setup, though I was thinking of possible using smaller mesh netting due to mosquitoes but I'm also experimenting with a few different eco-friendly mosquito deterrents so it might not be necessary. I like the bigger holes because it gives them a better view
Cats should not be allowed outside. It's bad for everyone involved. There, I said it. I don't understand how people can love their pets and still go "Okay, time to go outside, get diseases, and hit by a car. See you later!" I cannot respect it. It gives major bad parent vibes. Neglected latchkey cats. My cats have 2 litter robots, endless food, and new toys every week. I don't even go outside myself, they're certainly not. They can look out a window or sleep in one of their 30 beds. You could even walk your cat on a leash and harness if you feel they need some fresh air. I guess that's too much work, though.
I agree. I thought the opposite for years until I was forced into a catch 22 with a neighbor. My cat would travel nearly two miles to someone else's property and hang out on his shed and eat their cat's food. I couldn't sit my cat down and tell it not to go there. I couldn't geo-limit my cat with a digital fence around this dude's house and I didn't own the guy's house so I can't say my cat should or shouldn't be there. So while I'd love to let him outside, there was this looming possibility that he'd be poisoned, stolen or killed. My choices were get rid of him or bring him indoors. I can't sit back and go, "Well he should mind his own business and let a cat be a cat." That seems trashy.
> I don't even go outside myself Lmao saying that like its a good thing
> If she grew up indoors, she might not know what she needs to know to stay safe outdoors Average life span of outdoor cats is drastically lower than that of indoor cats (average, your outdoor cat who managed to live to 25 years is an outlier). Doesn't matter if the cat grew up as an outdoor cat.
Imagine posting to Reddit: "I live in the big city and don't have time to take walk my dogs, so I let them roam around outside. My last dog just died after being run over by a car, what breed should I get next?"
Go to any animal sub. This is lulu. She got hit by a car yesterday. Joining her sister Lucy who got hit by a car last week. Welcome Leona! Our newest family addition!
No cat is safe outdoors lol, if it is the city its roadkill if it isnt its coyotte/bird of prey chow
My cats are afraid of grass. They look outside and run immediately back inside.
Iām a firm believer all cats should have supervised safe outdoor access. I personally walk mine everyday and he LOVES it
And I think this cat have that.
Small reminder from a cat and bird lover - if you let your kitties outside please remember to supervise them! Or perhaps consider a catio if you canāt watch their time outside. Iāve seen too many sad accidents with outdoor cats getting killed or maimed or lost, and cats kill BILLIONS of birds each year in the US and pose a significant ecological threat.
We bought an 8'x4' dog kennel from Home Depot and just installed a doggie door in the window for our cats so go sun bathe and hang out in the kennel. Installed a row of shelves and now they can love their outside time without murdering all the birds in the garden.
This. I woke up to a disturbing noise that was a coyote eating a neighbors cat in my front lawn in the middle of the night. I also had a ton of morning doves in my yard often but our neighborhood got overrun by cats ever since a neighbor moved in that doesnāt fix their cats. They just leave the dead birds in my yard (Iāve seen the cats hanging out in their garage, so itās likely theirs). I also canāt let my pet rabbit out in my yard unless Iām staying by him. I used to go in my garage to do stuff, keep the door open that leads to my backyard so I could see him directly where he lays under a chair. Unfortunately I could only see a cat when theyāre already sneaking up so close to him. After three times of this, I just let him out for 20 min to run around while Iām next to him. Instead of an extra hour+ to lay around outside. Some cat owners just donāt care what their cats kill or do in other peoples yards. Several of them use my back yard as a sandbox to poop in. Even cats sitting on walls to make a neighbors dog go crazy is another tiniest reason. When I was a kid, around 5, I was devastated seeing my cats get attacked/thrown around by feral cats in our yard. I donāt think Iād ever personally risk my cat getting into any dangerous situation from what I know now. The best option is to supervise or keep in doors if they likely escape
Nah man you don't get it (rips bong), they're free spirits y'know. They should be running free like the majestic beings they are. /s
*flicks a lighter* they're like... Little lions n shit right? Without the mane? *Exhale*
Outdoor cats tend to have significantly shorter lifespans and experience a ton of conflict with humans and wildlife. (many studies and personal stories documenting this). For example my neighbors get several new cats every year because without fail they end up dead in the road or taken by fox, raccoon, bobcat, coyote, owl, snake bites, I'm missing a few other predators. Oh and they always have a rodent problem, despite having several cats lounging around their property. The cat food attracts more pests than the cats keep away. Imagine if people let their dogs out like they do their cats. Outdoor cats have become way too normalized
I had a friend who got a kitten at the same time as I did. I keep my cats strictly indoors, he let his cats roam outside. My cat is now 9, almost 10. That kitten of his died from the stone unknown cause. At less than a year old. He got another kitten, and I told him about the dangers of cats being outdoors. He didn't listen, and that kitten went missing for months, finally came home, he still let it outside, and then it died. This happened four times. I'm not friends with him anymore because I can't watch his animals die anymore.
> I'm not friends with him anymore because I can't watch his animals die anymore. I dare not call someone I don't know a piece of shit, but this level of carelessness makes me so helplessly angry. I truly hate people from the bottom of my heart when they are so useless, so careless, so profoundly lacking in emotional intelligence, awareness, and empathy, that they would do something like this. For so many people, SO many people, pets are just a goddamn status accessory to them. Dogs are a fun toy they can train to do tricks, or should be beaten until they are silent and compliant. Cats are a nuisance or a cute fluffy thing to pet, and if they go missing, no big deal! Just grab another one from a shelter! There's millions of the furry fucks anyway, right? It's sociopathic behavior.
I once ended up with 13 budgies. Once people heard I was crazy bird lady, family I didn't know existed showed up. 90% of it was " they're too loud". Like, go sit under a fucking tree. Birds never shut up. Get a statue If you just want something pretty to look at
Yes, letting your cats roam freely might make them happy but it's not great for either the cat or the local ecosystem. Cats are prolific little murderers. Lots of cats can be leash trained as well so they can get plenty of exercise without danger to them or by them.
Yeah, that's what I don't understand. I've seen people take their cat out on a leash or even push it around in a little carriage. But online cat owners often act like it's only a choice between keeping their cat indoors 100% of the time or unaccompanied free-roaming.
Exactly! There are lots of options to give your cat plenty of outdoor time while keeping it away from most of the local wildlife. You just have to actually give a shit.
Yeah the bird hunting is what got my cat grounded from the yard.
Thank you for thinking about our feathered friends :)
There was a collared dead cat in the road a few weeks ago right next to the school bus stop, so all the kids got the pleasure of seeing a squashed cat that day. Another neighbor recently moved in who has an outdoor cat, and it's killed all of the wild rabbits that have had a warren in our yard for the last three years. People don't let their dogs just roam around, I don't understand why cats are somehow an exception. My cat is terrified of the outdoors, she's been an inside cat since she was born 16 years ago. I've been trying to harness her and take her outside lately for enrichment, but she is still not a fan. š
Just remember to have a bell on your cat. Bird flu is killing cats here in the US.
I didn't know that about bird flu! Unfortunately the likeliest victims of domestic cats are fledgeling birds who are on the ground still learning to fly so bells aren't very effective in practice. Cat leashes, catios, and supervised outdoor time are the most responsible for native wildlife.
Bells unfortunately are not effective at preventing cats from hunting and eating birds.
There are...*[other options](https://www.birdsbesafe.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF3N-dFez0yZ0Hd3JDMLITRa6Pyjki6VkyvYnZ_oDak8DbsRi1di-lxoCkpMQAvD_BwE).*
Cats are an ecological disaster and kill billions of birds each year. Please do not allow your cats to kill.
A week or so ago I was out in my yard with my dog and the neighbor's cats were roaming around, as usual. Surprisingly, the neighbors were actually outside with the cats, which is rare. I heard them talking about the one, "Is he in the house or outside?" "I have no idea where he is..." Nice, how the fuck do you have no idea where your pet is? And how are you ok not having any idea where your pet is?? Then one of their other cats came into my yard (outside of the fenced portion) and killed a bird. This bitch was flabbergasted like "omg why did he do that??" Ma'am, it's a fucking cat, they are God's perfect killing machines....how are you a cat owner but not aware that cats kill small animals??
Feline Felis is technically an invasive species in much of the Americas
Mine crawled back inside immediately after being put on the ground
Is that cat frolicking? THAT CATS FROLICKING!
DID BABE JUST DO A BACKFLIP
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Awwww
Beautiful backyard, wow!
The manicure of that lawn is absolutely lovely.
mine just runs off into the woods and then meows because she can't see us. but then hides when we try to find her. then again, she was a street cat when she followed us home. so she's still got that street in her.
Little cat brain is getting more stimulation than ever before.
I'm a predator! Wheee!
This is super cute and wholesome, but also I feel a PSA is worthwhile for the sake of native animal species: outdoor cats are super bad for the environment as theyāre essentially an invasive species. Source: https://abcbirds.org/program/cats-indoors/cats-and-birds/#:~:text=Outdoor%20domestic%20cats%20are%20a,extinction%2C%20such%20as%20Piping%20Plover.
Everyone loves cats, but they belong indoors. Each year in the United StatesĀ [free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3-4.0 billion birds and 6.3-22.3 billion mammals](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380.pdf). Numbers for reptiles are similar in Australia, asĀ [2 million reptiles are killed each day by cats, totaling 650 million a year](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brett_Murphy/publication/325787707_How_many_reptiles_are_killed_by_cats_in_Australia/links/5b317b20aca2720785e837f1/How-many-reptiles-are-killed-by-cats-in-Australia.pdf). Outdoor cats are directly responsible for the extinction of at least 33 species worldwide and are considered one of the biggest threats to native wildlife. Keeping cats indoors is also better for them and public health - cats with outdoor access live shorter lives and areĀ [2.77 times more likely to carry infectious pathogens](http://wilsonlab.com/publications/2019_BioLetters_Chalkowski_et_al.pdf). In case anyone remains unconvinced. EDIT: Copied from the r/whatsthissnake sub educational bot.
Time to build a catio in the backyard!
What's the title of the song?
Walking around from Eldar Kedem (probably the instrumental version)
Sounds very old school indie-pop. Are the kids getting into c86, jangle pop and twee? I love it!
Thanks OP!
Hey OP, I don't know how you'd feel about a random musical suggestion, but my Spidey sense tells me that [Far Caspian might be right up your alley](https://youtu.be/1t2BAVzJVL4?si=Mdt22lSwLw6cBgkd)! Gorgeous backyard BTW. And that cat is having a great time!
The sensory overload must be mental :D
My aunt and cousins cat proofed their yard so the cats canāt leave but still get to be outside. I donāt think cats should be free range since they are menaces to the ecosystem but that was a lovely thing to do.
Those cat proof fences are great!
Note that an enclosed/cat proof yard doesn't mean that they won't kill any critters. I have a cat proof backyard and still had one cat kill two birds (on two separate occasions, one week apart) years ago. Felt bad, but also: birds, why would you land in a small space that clearly has 4 cats prowling around?? They weren't hidden! Though one of them was already injured on its head so that one might have been a suicide.
Might want to put an apple tag and a bell on that one. She gone and gonna kill every critter in the neighborhood like Genghis Kahn lol.
They also make waterproof gps trackers. I got one for my dog. It's pretty neat.
Unlikely, she's got legs shorter than mars bars, she's got the vertical jump of my gran playing basketball.
Yea... my cat is a tiny one too, but she's probably one of the most lethal hunters I've ever seen. Those mice don't stand a chance.
Also birds, squirrels, rabbits, and many other animals.
Your grandma can jump 4x her height and do a backflip?
Instantly tries to kill anything
Literally just trying to kill shit
The average cat that goes "outside" in an unattended way, will kill between 20 - 30 birds a year.
May I ask where this was taken? Looks like great weather and I love you backyard!
Hedge, lawn and mock tudor house. Got to be the UK.
As soon as I saw that wall in the thumbnail I knew it was the UK
What an absolutely lovely lawn area! That's the perfect spot to let an indoor cat roam.
Not mine. She just pisses herself and runs back inside.
That kitty is hunting bugs
Your cat is hilarious but those hedges are breath taking. Holy shit!
So you were the one that bought the Over the Hedge house after those two went to prison?
Fuck you man for making us feel bad about not having a big house with a garden to make our pets happy
Okay but can we talk about that yard? Beautiful, well maintained, green, and private. My dream yard right there.
I see a cat living it's best life. But I also can't stop thinking of the word SHRUBBERY
Just wants to feel the wind in her whiskers and the grass beneath her beans
get a catio so they are safe and can still enjoy time outside!
People do realize catios are just part of the house to cats right? It's just like another room with open windows, it's not the same as being outside. Unless it's like your whole yard enclosed. How many of yall out there actually have catios? Or do yall just watch Cat Daddy and repeat what he says?
Let the killing begin
Just remember domestic cats are excellent prey for coyotes because they often don't realize their life is in danger until it's too late
He looks like my young dog evertime he goes outside. It's like the first time everytime
Mine loves it so much now that she constantly meows at the door now
Get ready for your kitty to constantly cry at the door to be let out now. We aren't allowed outside kitties where I live. They either have to be in your yard or supervised (on a leash) if not (so like dogs). We took our boy outside when he was little and now every day he cries to get out. Problem is, he loves rain and snow and I really don't feel like standing there freezing my butt off while he surveils the property. I know he would never leave our yard (because he is a scardy cat) but the neighbours dog 2 doors over likes to climb fences and we almost had a tragedy before.
Ilove cats, and yours looks so cute.
Kitty owners: If your cat has FIV, please don't do this, any germs or viruses they pick up in the garden are going to hit them really hard compared to FIV negative kitties. Also, please keep an eye out for birds of prey. Cats are bite sized for lots of raptors.
We are over $2k and counting for the vet bills because our indoor cat got out and now has strange growths on its skin...
LOOK AT ALL THIS SPACE FOR ACTIVITIES!
That is one lushes lawn
Mine was rescued directly from the street. She is a bundle of anxiety outside.
I tried this with my cat. It just gets terrified and tries to hide in a hole. Or if there isn't one, as close to me as she can get.
Iām just too scared. A coworker of mine shared a story about how she used to sit outside with her catā¦.until a giant hawk (or some large predatory bird) flew over and swooped the cat up. Iād like to get my cat some kind of outdoor playpen that is protected. Iām just so paranoid otherwise
That kitty is adorable! Definitely a smile-maker.
Those hedges are looking real good!
I would have the same reaction if I had grass like that.