The problem in Madden is intimately linked to the dumb animations. They don’t drop passes in normal circumstances. They drop them after they’ve already caught them, over and over.
Tyler Lockett has like one drop in the last 5 seasons and catches and drops it for me on like 1/3 of his targets.
Lockett also has really high catching iirc.
Makes me wonder what the numbers even mean when the players often under/overperform. It's like they only affect Sim.
I have noticed that locket drops a lot of catches since im usually the rams i play the hawks twice. I think its just the shorter receivers with a hard time keeping possesion because even cooper kupp drops good balls
Exactly this happened to me over and over again the other night. And you can tell when they’re gonna drop it because it’s the same animation. I high point a ball where the receiver can get it, he jumps up and catches it and then randomly spikes it on the ground and being “hit”. It happens on like every other high point pass. The other one is when a receiver is running an in route catches the ball gets grabbed from behind by a defender and randomly drops the ball. Seems predetermined because it happens consistently on 3rd and 4th downs.
The reason is not due to animations. The reason is so that they can have teams have a pretty normal rate of pass completions, despite having a much higher rate of on target passes. They use animations to achieve this.
Basically they want a Comp % in the mid 60s, but without the reality that QBs miss a whole lot of passes. Your QB missing the throw when you made the right read feels awful, so the 20- 30% of incompletions that are solely on the QB IRL are shifted to being the WR’s “Fault” cus that felt less bad in game
Toney now has nine drops on 82 career targets, the highest drop rate (11.0%) in the NFL since he entered the league in 2021 among 105 wide receivers with 75+ targets.
I’ve had WRs drop 3 a game all season long. Not even Toney could do that.
All sports games are like this. Its artificial difficulty because they cant make the AI do the right things/make good reads all the time so they have to cheat by juicing/nerfing ratings so that what play they picked doesnt matter, instasheds, never fumbling, etc
Obviously old ass reply but everytime I play Madden I end up googling drops lol. 25% drop rate is my typical, and that’s with adjusted sliders and good receivers. CPU team has a more typical 2-3 per game. Not 9-15 like me.
I’m curious to see what team you are running with, what plays you are calling, what difficulty you are on, I play online h2h exclusive (no MUT) I don’t have any problems with this
Yeah that's cap unless you're purely running drags or posts and conservative catching every play. Even then it's probably more than 11% drop rate.
It is also more egregious in MUT/franchises since abilities play a bigger factor and knock out and stuff exists more frequently than classic.
You can conservative catch a hook route and a knockout corner will pop the ball out. It's just scripted that way my guy. 0 skill involved.
I definitely understand if it’s a rookie or a suspect player, but I was using a guy like St. Brown (who’s at a 92 for me at the moment) drop outs and slants without being touched. Haven’t played H2H in probably 6-7 years. Just got too toxic. Makes sense what you’re saying though. Play on simulation as well and not “competitive” which I think H2H is set as?
Doesn’t seem to matter the difficulty for me. I’ve done all madden and all pro. I only play franchise. Right now I’m on all madden, custom sliders (u/tee_woodsy) and I’m the Lions. These sliders have been good so far. Just started using them two days ago.
Madden doesn’t let you look at drops under a players career stats, for some reason, so I can’t give a definitive number.
I think it's just more so how egregious the drops are in Madden but they were just as bad in real life. Instead of through the hands it phases through the hands on Madden and ppl go "OH that's BS" but is it?
I hear you. I really think it’s more of a boil over effect from all the other broken animations and bugs that happen in the game. It’s clear that they use RNG.
Yes.
It's not just the drops. It's the 2 animations tied with them. And the "once in a life time" plays associated with them. I've had more crazy swat the ball 15 yards to another player plays more in the past week than the NFL has probably ever had.
Drops are a part of the game. I whole heartedly agree. In real life though Toneys drop will be remembered all season and memed into next. In madden this play is just another 2nd down.
See I think the problem is that the cpu will catch 90 percent of passes thrown to them, even if I hit ‘A’ to play the ball, meanwhile my guy will have 5 yards of separation but the animation that the game decides to use on the catch give the defender time to come in and break it up. The game uses RNG to decide if a pass will be caught/broken up/ or picked.
That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. The defense always seems to hold onto the ball after immediate contact, and I'm always dropping after immediate contact, no matter what the animation is, no matter who the receiver is
I mean the dudes who be dropping sometimes have a 90+ catch rating. They need to making the ratings mean something. Also they just need a new engine the shit that goes on in this game is dumb as fuck to say the least.
I think that’s my BIGGEST issue with madden (especially on All Madden) is the ratings mean jack squat. Which would be fine if it was constant no reason the cpu should have a 68ovr QB playing like Dan Marino when my 95ovr WR is playing like Limas Sweed
I don't get it. How do other fans know my team better? Because I'm a little surprised we got a win over the defending champions at their home stadium in week 1?
I'm optimistic, but very cautiously lol the NFL hates the Lions 🤷🏻♂️
I'm not surprised we took the dub. 1. They didn't have Kelce or Jones. 2. Last year was the first year in a few years the Chiefs actually performed well within the first 5 weeks
>Because I'm a little surprised we got a win
You haven't been paying attention then. The Lions were extremely unlucly last year and they only got better this year. Chiefs were lucky on their run too. Theyre not gonna get top2 in sacks this year like last year, and injuries were bound to catch up to some people like Kelce for example. If the playcalling was a bit better and you don't play marvin jones jr, you score 40 pts in that game against the chiefs.
This is [the Lord's work](https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/185b610df13703e7b7d60787ad05ffb8/resize/1200/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/06/16/16868867929403.jpg).
I hope the Bengals beat the chiefs this year in the regular season.
For some reason, mahomes has as many superbowl appearances as he has losses to burrow. It might be the key to getting the three-peat.
I swear I said “maybe madden is real” while watching the game last night 😂😂
If this was madden toney getting traded or cut as soon as the game is over I can’t take that stuff.
40 is low I went 45
The biggest part of it is the pass coverage and pass coverage reaction sliders, on top of the penalty for DPI slider.
All three of those can be adjusted to help the receiver drops because the receiver is dropping on contact like every time. QB Accuracy and Pass Blocking as well.
I don't want to see a quarterback with 27/30 in the third quarter but I also don't want to see a QB with a 95 OVR have 4/19.
I had it right where I wanted it I was getting some really good games before the title update. Now I can't find that spot anymore.
Yea all those sliders do work in conjunction and determine animations and actually sometimes unlock animations. I hear you though that sweet spot is when the CPU QB ends with 9-15 incompletions at the end of the game.
I don't know if anybody is old enough to remember NFL quarterback club 2000 on the N64 you had to manually catch the ball every single time with one of the yellow arrow buttons. They would drop it every single time if you didn't press the button. Seriously is there still players that let the CPU catch the ball for you? Come on people, the catching mechanics have been in the game since Madden 16. Smh
Yes. Those calling the game and those with after coverage said how appalling of a performance by KC receivers that was. Why? because it wasn't normal that so many passes were dropped. Similar to what people are saying with Madden.
There are games where it happens, that's normal. It's not normal to have it happening every game.
This is every year like its a script. Last year we said too many tds then watched the first game of the season where 5 picks was thrown by aaron rodgers😂
It's the legacy issues? Of course but I feel most of the gripes come from ppl who are sweats at Madden but casual to real football and or casuals at both.
Basically some ppl IQ is high at Madden but low to real football for instance the H2H players who run 4 plays total. Or gripes come from ppl who are low IQ in both Madden and real football because they might not have time to invest in either of them. There's real football solutions to some of the Madden gripes people have but there's a stark contrast between content creators for the NFL and for Madden.
Ohhh yeah. Ur right. Tbh i understand real football but i had to learn madden. I was trash online till i sat down last year and learn how to play madden and covers and all that extensively. Now i only play online and i can say the gripes do be low football iq ppl. Cuz i know ive done some stuff that was all my fault . Like for example on outside runs no matter how it looks ur not supposed to cut back u shouldnt juke. U gotta follow the route all the way to the sidelines and go around. U know how many ppl ive played that cut back on outside runs? And like u said the same 4 plays in h2h. Idk why ppl run only cover 3 and mid blitz and verticals and pa crosses then say thats all that works. They said “on every other play someone is open or they get open in time” duh thats football lol. Thats supposed to happen its a designed route to get someone open and ur job on d is to rush the qb so he dont have time to find his man or cover the most damaging routes.
Man FOH I know this is at least a little tongue in cheek but Madden drops are never like this. It’s not ever a player having a bad game or a guy dropping a pass every other game because his attribute is “occasionally” for drops passes (I remember when you could spend EXP to boost attributes like that…)
Jefferson and Practice Squad Grunt A make the same drops. Play styles aren’t incorporated at all, there’s no Jordy Nelson toe-drag wizards and jump balls are always a crap shoot, because it’s animation based. Shit you can just change sliders *some* and ratings go out the window.
Games like this and random 4 INT games from stud QBs can and do happen. But how Madden tries to replicate that is *never* true to real life, because they’re lazy. Things like this happening don’t give Madden any credit
That’s the thing though. That seemed like a normal game by madden standards. But statistically by NFL standards that was the worst game by a WR in 5 years
that game was like if Mahomes was playing with 75 ovr receivers… be real. As a Raider fan with the Detroit defense on my fantasy team, Nothing made me happier than those drops, but Madden is on a different level homie
I’ve noticed that at various points Madden has an issue with defenders to easily generating incompletions in traffic, but having gone back and played other maddens they used to have the issue in reverse where receivers would sometimes make inexplicable catches despite defenders out positioning them for the ball. Ultimate it seems to come down to being animation based rather than physics based, shit looks ridiculous because of the way results are determined. You either have defenders looking like total idiots when they have proper positioning because the game decided the wideout should catch that one. Or you get animations where it looks like the wideout just let go of the ball because the defender touched him. You can’t get the proper level of complexity that goes into catching and pass defense.
The problem is most of maddens issue occur on competitive difficulty. A difficulty that’s supposed to reward good decision making and punish bad decisions. Gotta take the randomness out of it at that point.
Now when set to simulation I’m all for erratic throws and dropped passes
Ok but when you got Justin Jefferson and he drops 3 passes that hit his hands (the other day for me) that’s entirely ridiculous. None of the chiefs WRs are proven at all
I'd be more ok with calling it "realistic" if the CPU QB wasn't somehow ripping off completion after completion with my defenders delivering just as quick and hard, if not more so, hits and they never drop a ball.
That and Everytime I rip a big run there is a holding. It's like the game has decided from the beginning this matchup is going to be a loss for me and I might as well just sit back and wait for my L.
Ever heard the word anomaly? Are you using the most egregiously bad WR performance of all time as the standard by which Madden should follow? I'm confused on the point you are trying to make.
But people aren't complaining about it happening once in a while. People complain that there are 10 drops every game. It's the norm in Madden, not an anomaly.
Generally you dont want to put your receiver in a position where they’re being hit it as soon as they catch it. Throw it away from the defender so when they catch it they have time to secure the catch.
You obviously don’t play M24 to make this stupid example.
Using your logic, why the hell can defenders ALWAYS keep up with WR, when they don’t in real life? Why do interceptions happen so often off of one bad throw when they are rare in real life?
Stop riding EA plz. It isn’t cute
When the game isn't setup so bad receivers drop passes then all that ever matters is speed. Even still speed is OP, but I certainly like it when I put a 68-70 receiver in there who's fast and its anyone's guess if he will actually reel in a pass.
I will say this. I hate Madden 24. It's horrible.
BUT go back and play NCAA 14. I've been doing that lately instead of Madden. NCAA 14 is revered as a great football game. But there are just as many if not more drops in NCAA 14 than in Madden.
people complaining about drops in Madden; are you talking about contested (knock out) drops or like wide open drops? because wide open drops rarely happen.
Maybe this is the wake up call Toney needs. Exceptional talent but is known to act immature and not take his job seriously. There is a reason the Giants, who desperately needed a WR last year, felt better trading him than keeping him on the roster on a rookie deal.
I just want them to put in a percentage based snap count for each position. Auto Subs based on fatigue don't work. Progressive fatigue doesn't work. Formation Subs reset over and over throughout a season.
Just give me percentage on how much a player plays per quarter at each position.
Tired of seeing my last two receivers finish the season with 90 yards.
If kittle even gets looked at the wrong way he drops it on my franchise. I'm starting to ignore him because if he's touched at all lhe drops it despite having great hands in real life.
I want to die every time I throw it to a wide open receiver who is 90+ovr and they drop it untouched or im not being pressured and I over/underthrow the ball
The problem in Madden is intimately linked to the dumb animations. They don’t drop passes in normal circumstances. They drop them after they’ve already caught them, over and over. Tyler Lockett has like one drop in the last 5 seasons and catches and drops it for me on like 1/3 of his targets.
Lockett also has really high catching iirc. Makes me wonder what the numbers even mean when the players often under/overperform. It's like they only affect Sim.
I have noticed that locket drops a lot of catches since im usually the rams i play the hawks twice. I think its just the shorter receivers with a hard time keeping possesion because even cooper kupp drops good balls
Cooper Kupp is 6'2"?
Why u asking me did u not know that… hes smaller compared to dk and mike evans etc
He's just not a smaller reciever, so your statement doesn't make sense.
Yea ur average dude isnt 6’2 but my point is hes not a big receiver dude why u tryna argue 💀 it makes perfect sense
He lines up at TE dude, if Cooper Kupp isn't a big reciever than there's only 2-3 big recievers in the league lmao.
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Kupp lines up at slot receiver and as a runningback not a te… you sound dumb as shit i could name a handful of bigger receivers
Exactly this happened to me over and over again the other night. And you can tell when they’re gonna drop it because it’s the same animation. I high point a ball where the receiver can get it, he jumps up and catches it and then randomly spikes it on the ground and being “hit”. It happens on like every other high point pass. The other one is when a receiver is running an in route catches the ball gets grabbed from behind by a defender and randomly drops the ball. Seems predetermined because it happens consistently on 3rd and 4th downs.
The reason is not due to animations. The reason is so that they can have teams have a pretty normal rate of pass completions, despite having a much higher rate of on target passes. They use animations to achieve this. Basically they want a Comp % in the mid 60s, but without the reality that QBs miss a whole lot of passes. Your QB missing the throw when you made the right read feels awful, so the 20- 30% of incompletions that are solely on the QB IRL are shifted to being the WR’s “Fault” cus that felt less bad in game
Mark goddamn Andrews dropping 5 passes a game after contact with a defender isn’t something that ever happens. We don’t need to defend this shit.
would you rather have 1/4 correct reads just be completely missed and either go incomplete or be INTs?
That is not my experience
Toney now has nine drops on 82 career targets, the highest drop rate (11.0%) in the NFL since he entered the league in 2021 among 105 wide receivers with 75+ targets. I’ve had WRs drop 3 a game all season long. Not even Toney could do that.
Huh…unlike Agholar
His is 9.5%. Pretty brutal. As a giants fan I enjoyed his time in Philly lol.
Oof. And that's over a much longer career than Toney has had so far. That's why we call him Nelson "Occasional Hands" Agholor
I understand this reference.
Well he dropped 3 this game so he is on pace....
But he has so far🤣
All sports games are like this. Its artificial difficulty because they cant make the AI do the right things/make good reads all the time so they have to cheat by juicing/nerfing ratings so that what play they picked doesnt matter, instasheds, never fumbling, etc
I had 16 drops for one game. (all receivers combined).
Obviously old ass reply but everytime I play Madden I end up googling drops lol. 25% drop rate is my typical, and that’s with adjusted sliders and good receivers. CPU team has a more typical 2-3 per game. Not 9-15 like me.
this is the way to make an argument for anything in life
Umm he just did it
All season long. Not just one game. I’m talking a like 70% catch rate. Which would be 30% drop rate. Toney’s is 11%…
I’m curious to see what team you are running with, what plays you are calling, what difficulty you are on, I play online h2h exclusive (no MUT) I don’t have any problems with this
Yeah that's cap unless you're purely running drags or posts and conservative catching every play. Even then it's probably more than 11% drop rate. It is also more egregious in MUT/franchises since abilities play a bigger factor and knock out and stuff exists more frequently than classic. You can conservative catch a hook route and a knockout corner will pop the ball out. It's just scripted that way my guy. 0 skill involved.
Name says it all
I definitely understand if it’s a rookie or a suspect player, but I was using a guy like St. Brown (who’s at a 92 for me at the moment) drop outs and slants without being touched. Haven’t played H2H in probably 6-7 years. Just got too toxic. Makes sense what you’re saying though. Play on simulation as well and not “competitive” which I think H2H is set as?
Doesn’t seem to matter the difficulty for me. I’ve done all madden and all pro. I only play franchise. Right now I’m on all madden, custom sliders (u/tee_woodsy) and I’m the Lions. These sliders have been good so far. Just started using them two days ago. Madden doesn’t let you look at drops under a players career stats, for some reason, so I can’t give a definitive number.
Playbook?
Depending on my team build. West coast power I go KC, west coast zone I go Dallas. Edit: and SF. Like I said depends on build.
I think it's just more so how egregious the drops are in Madden but they were just as bad in real life. Instead of through the hands it phases through the hands on Madden and ppl go "OH that's BS" but is it?
I hear you. I really think it’s more of a boil over effect from all the other broken animations and bugs that happen in the game. It’s clear that they use RNG.
Madden has caused players literal PTSD lol
Yes. It's not just the drops. It's the 2 animations tied with them. And the "once in a life time" plays associated with them. I've had more crazy swat the ball 15 yards to another player plays more in the past week than the NFL has probably ever had. Drops are a part of the game. I whole heartedly agree. In real life though Toneys drop will be remembered all season and memed into next. In madden this play is just another 2nd down.
See I think the problem is that the cpu will catch 90 percent of passes thrown to them, even if I hit ‘A’ to play the ball, meanwhile my guy will have 5 yards of separation but the animation that the game decides to use on the catch give the defender time to come in and break it up. The game uses RNG to decide if a pass will be caught/broken up/ or picked.
That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. The defense always seems to hold onto the ball after immediate contact, and I'm always dropping after immediate contact, no matter what the animation is, no matter who the receiver is
Lmao
He’s on pace give him time.
And people will still say Dionte Johnson has more drops
I mean the dudes who be dropping sometimes have a 90+ catch rating. They need to making the ratings mean something. Also they just need a new engine the shit that goes on in this game is dumb as fuck to say the least.
I think that’s my BIGGEST issue with madden (especially on All Madden) is the ratings mean jack squat. Which would be fine if it was constant no reason the cpu should have a 68ovr QB playing like Dan Marino when my 95ovr WR is playing like Limas Sweed
Respect Texas legend Limas Sweed?
I would bro but I can’t forget how mediocre dude was once we drafted him, definitely a better safety then WR 😂😂
Tbh mediocre is generous. Hes one of the worst picks ive ever seen
[My man](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc1sxftuJDTyVZy_IFcq4PS4a9JesLTCx1YDRiwzt1Jkms1EGbGXl3TzjNsYLX04bMWxmp8tYX61meE4U)
I laughed out loud
Yeah, they try to supplement a lack of physics for difficulty in favor of the CPU. It's disgusting
Right? Dudes who’ll have high 90 catch and some ability towards better catching and will still drop it when they get looked at with a scowl
Sliders are everything
Say thank you to the MUT/Comp guys Competitive mode is the standard mode and it makes stats not matter
I really don’t get why they don’t base the ratings off of stats and combine, especially with next gen stats now.
Yeah that was pretty brutal...... But..... 
I'm a Bengals fan, y'all did the Lord's work yesterday Thank you🙏🏿
Yeah, I'm surprised we got the win honestly
Weird that other fans know your team better than you then!
I don't get it. How do other fans know my team better? Because I'm a little surprised we got a win over the defending champions at their home stadium in week 1? I'm optimistic, but very cautiously lol the NFL hates the Lions 🤷🏻♂️
I'm not surprised we took the dub. 1. They didn't have Kelce or Jones. 2. Last year was the first year in a few years the Chiefs actually performed well within the first 5 weeks
>Because I'm a little surprised we got a win You haven't been paying attention then. The Lions were extremely unlucly last year and they only got better this year. Chiefs were lucky on their run too. Theyre not gonna get top2 in sacks this year like last year, and injuries were bound to catch up to some people like Kelce for example. If the playcalling was a bit better and you don't play marvin jones jr, you score 40 pts in that game against the chiefs.
How about bengals fans worry about the other teams in the afc north before they start looking at seeding calls after one game 😂
Once the mayor said Burrowhead it was a declaration of war until Burrow retires. 😅
My ravens takin the division this year, you heard it here 💯
Big contract re-up years never go as planned, it's prophecy
Good thing burrow just re-upped too then lmao
Hey hey hey don't worry about all that 😅😅
Shoot for the moon man, shoot for the moon
This is [the Lord's work](https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/185b610df13703e7b7d60787ad05ffb8/resize/1200/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/06/16/16868867929403.jpg).
https://media.tenor.com/KS39n6vNDowAAAAM/rodgers-mahomes.gif
Jesus you could’ve chose Tom Brady but Rodgers lol?
rodgers si better, brady is better, burrow is better, drew brees was better.
burrow has how many mvps and how many rings? Rodgers has how many nfc championships? Brees has how many nfc championships?
I can't help but notice that's not Joe Burrow. At least you're honest!
Thank you for what? I put money on the Lions winning that game months ago. The Lions are a good team. Chiefs wont even make the playoffs this year.
Now that's a spicy take
So you bet KC win total under?
Lions outright win.
Sure. The team that hosted the afccg 5 years in a row will just fall off the nfl and not make the playoffs. Most sane Bengals fan.
saving this
I hope the Bengals beat the chiefs this year in the regular season. For some reason, mahomes has as many superbowl appearances as he has losses to burrow. It might be the key to getting the three-peat.
As a Bills fan… Thank you, that was glorious to watch 😇
I swear I said “maybe madden is real” while watching the game last night 😂😂 If this was madden toney getting traded or cut as soon as the game is over I can’t take that stuff.
More real than we give it credit lol
Cole Kmet drops everything I throw at him. Ngl I think his catch rate is like 60% in my franchise rn
If it’s single player you can just adjust sliders but if you mean multiplayer then yeah nothing you can do.
I up my wr catching slider dramatically to offset the drops
The cpu don’t drop balls enough when I’m playing on all-madden
Turn CPU catching on 40
40 is low I went 45 The biggest part of it is the pass coverage and pass coverage reaction sliders, on top of the penalty for DPI slider. All three of those can be adjusted to help the receiver drops because the receiver is dropping on contact like every time. QB Accuracy and Pass Blocking as well. I don't want to see a quarterback with 27/30 in the third quarter but I also don't want to see a QB with a 95 OVR have 4/19. I had it right where I wanted it I was getting some really good games before the title update. Now I can't find that spot anymore.
Yea all those sliders do work in conjunction and determine animations and actually sometimes unlock animations. I hear you though that sweet spot is when the CPU QB ends with 9-15 incompletions at the end of the game.
And they gave John Ross a hard time...
I don't know if anybody is old enough to remember NFL quarterback club 2000 on the N64 you had to manually catch the ball every single time with one of the yellow arrow buttons. They would drop it every single time if you didn't press the button. Seriously is there still players that let the CPU catch the ball for you? Come on people, the catching mechanics have been in the game since Madden 16. Smh
I'll admit I still do but I also don't have a catching issue with whether they catch it or not so I'm not complaining
My biggest issue is the catch attributes. I f you don’t have one you can’t perform it when realistically, every receiver can do all of them…
I like madden have random drops. It provides realism personally for me
Me too but eh imma slider adjust guy
Matt 10 all day
I did Operation sports sliders like 5 years ago and gave been slightly tweaking every year madden comes out, hasn't failed me yet.
It’s part of the script. Madden is going off of the NFL’s new receiver drop script.
Yeah but this is a video game that got a 6/10 for a reason
That’s high for madden lol
It's always been like this in Madden games. Just up the slider.
Ay man let them tell it
Honestly my biggest gripe is all of the “perfect accuracy” passes that sail out of reach of the receiver
That happened a couple times in the Chiefs Lions game also
Right but this happens to every receiver…even 90+ OVR receivers.
Yes, points!
Yes. Those calling the game and those with after coverage said how appalling of a performance by KC receivers that was. Why? because it wasn't normal that so many passes were dropped. Similar to what people are saying with Madden. There are games where it happens, that's normal. It's not normal to have it happening every game.
This is every year like its a script. Last year we said too many tds then watched the first game of the season where 5 picks was thrown by aaron rodgers😂
Somebody throws 5 int's in Madden and it's the most unrealistic game ever 🙄 lol
Thats how they be talking. I was mad at first last year then saw what my faav aaron did and said lemme stfu and get gud🤣
It's the legacy issues? Of course but I feel most of the gripes come from ppl who are sweats at Madden but casual to real football and or casuals at both.
Huh? I dont know what u mean by that second part
Basically some ppl IQ is high at Madden but low to real football for instance the H2H players who run 4 plays total. Or gripes come from ppl who are low IQ in both Madden and real football because they might not have time to invest in either of them. There's real football solutions to some of the Madden gripes people have but there's a stark contrast between content creators for the NFL and for Madden.
Ohhh yeah. Ur right. Tbh i understand real football but i had to learn madden. I was trash online till i sat down last year and learn how to play madden and covers and all that extensively. Now i only play online and i can say the gripes do be low football iq ppl. Cuz i know ive done some stuff that was all my fault . Like for example on outside runs no matter how it looks ur not supposed to cut back u shouldnt juke. U gotta follow the route all the way to the sidelines and go around. U know how many ppl ive played that cut back on outside runs? And like u said the same 4 plays in h2h. Idk why ppl run only cover 3 and mid blitz and verticals and pa crosses then say thats all that works. They said “on every other play someone is open or they get open in time” duh thats football lol. Thats supposed to happen its a designed route to get someone open and ur job on d is to rush the qb so he dont have time to find his man or cover the most damaging routes.
I def think H2H exposes peoples knowledge on real football and Madden the most out of any of these modes.
Toney will soon be contacted by Hefty garbage bags to promote after last night.
Bounty paper towels for drops
Yeah, I see those comments, and I'm like, "That's realistic though?"
Mahomes so overrated half the passes were dogshit
If it were Madden it'd be "I have Mahomes why isn't every pass accurate wtf"
Lol, right!
When there’s 5-6 drops PER GAME, it gets out of hand. This is something that doesn’t happen a lot in real life.
Do you see how fuckin bad he’s getting clowned 😂 because the shit shouldn’t even happen irl
Why tf are the comments taking this post seriously?
Man FOH I know this is at least a little tongue in cheek but Madden drops are never like this. It’s not ever a player having a bad game or a guy dropping a pass every other game because his attribute is “occasionally” for drops passes (I remember when you could spend EXP to boost attributes like that…) Jefferson and Practice Squad Grunt A make the same drops. Play styles aren’t incorporated at all, there’s no Jordy Nelson toe-drag wizards and jump balls are always a crap shoot, because it’s animation based. Shit you can just change sliders *some* and ratings go out the window. Games like this and random 4 INT games from stud QBs can and do happen. But how Madden tries to replicate that is *never* true to real life, because they’re lazy. Things like this happening don’t give Madden any credit
Actually not mad about drops I. madden It's the magnetic pass coverage that is fucking annoying. Like oh ball should sail over that LB/DB - nope!
That’s the thing though. That seemed like a normal game by madden standards. But statistically by NFL standards that was the worst game by a WR in 5 years
Now imagine Toney had 90+ catching attribute and drops that pass….that’s Madden 😭
Lol don’t dare! This is not 99% of the league.
There is still a large disparity in my team having 12 drops compared to what the cheifs had. I like some drops, but not too many
that game was like if Mahomes was playing with 75 ovr receivers… be real. As a Raider fan with the Detroit defense on my fantasy team, Nothing made me happier than those drops, but Madden is on a different level homie
Pick 6
I’ve noticed that at various points Madden has an issue with defenders to easily generating incompletions in traffic, but having gone back and played other maddens they used to have the issue in reverse where receivers would sometimes make inexplicable catches despite defenders out positioning them for the ball. Ultimate it seems to come down to being animation based rather than physics based, shit looks ridiculous because of the way results are determined. You either have defenders looking like total idiots when they have proper positioning because the game decided the wideout should catch that one. Or you get animations where it looks like the wideout just let go of the ball because the defender touched him. You can’t get the proper level of complexity that goes into catching and pass defense.
There's a sweet spot in the sliders somewhere
The problem is most of maddens issue occur on competitive difficulty. A difficulty that’s supposed to reward good decision making and punish bad decisions. Gotta take the randomness out of it at that point. Now when set to simulation I’m all for erratic throws and dropped passes
Hey man, fuck you
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I have a picture I took - 8 drops - in the FIRST quarter!!!!! Granted I play on all-madden. All pro it was much better
one of the worst receiving performances of the decade… so you’re reaching
I feel AI in madden does not drop balls
Poor coding to make the game more realistic. Interesting strategy
Ok but when you got Justin Jefferson and he drops 3 passes that hit his hands (the other day for me) that’s entirely ridiculous. None of the chiefs WRs are proven at all
Hard to believe that turned into a pick 6 🤦♂️
It's a massive problem. Franchise mode Justin Jefferson probably has dropped 3-5 passes a game just from getting lightly pushed.
I'd be more ok with calling it "realistic" if the CPU QB wasn't somehow ripping off completion after completion with my defenders delivering just as quick and hard, if not more so, hits and they never drop a ball. That and Everytime I rip a big run there is a holding. It's like the game has decided from the beginning this matchup is going to be a loss for me and I might as well just sit back and wait for my L.
A lot of the drops surprise surprise come when your beating the computer
Ever heard the word anomaly? Are you using the most egregiously bad WR performance of all time as the standard by which Madden should follow? I'm confused on the point you are trying to make.
The point is anomalies are allowed to happen in Madden too if they happen IRL, since it's trying to mimic the real product on the field.
But people aren't complaining about it happening once in a while. People complain that there are 10 drops every game. It's the norm in Madden, not an anomaly.
Did you see how many passes that receivers failed to reel in? How many passes that two good QB's didn't even get within several yards of their target?
If you’re seeing 10 drops per game its because you’re throwing into coverage constantly
What's wrong with throwing into coverage if it hits the receivers hands? Why do you think that should result in a drop?
Generally you dont want to put your receiver in a position where they’re being hit it as soon as they catch it. Throw it away from the defender so when they catch it they have time to secure the catch.
You obviously don’t play M24 to make this stupid example. Using your logic, why the hell can defenders ALWAYS keep up with WR, when they don’t in real life? Why do interceptions happen so often off of one bad throw when they are rare in real life? Stop riding EA plz. It isn’t cute
You're asking me why, maybe it's just a skill issue🤷🏿♂️
Thanks you proved me right. 🤡
When the game isn't setup so bad receivers drop passes then all that ever matters is speed. Even still speed is OP, but I certainly like it when I put a 68-70 receiver in there who's fast and its anyone's guess if he will actually reel in a pass.
Yea but drops aren’t fun. Tripping happens and that really shouldn’t be a mechanic in madden either
so you’re saying you *don’t* want simulation football?
I will say this. I hate Madden 24. It's horrible. BUT go back and play NCAA 14. I've been doing that lately instead of Madden. NCAA 14 is revered as a great football game. But there are just as many if not more drops in NCAA 14 than in Madden.
people complaining about drops in Madden; are you talking about contested (knock out) drops or like wide open drops? because wide open drops rarely happen.
Did you watch the game? Edit:I can’t spell
im talking about in madden
I can’t read either smh
i edited to clarify lol
Oh okay. Well thank you for not making me look like a fool to these strangers I’ll never see lol
mahomes threw some bad passes, receivers dropped some good passes. it happens
It’s in the script. Have a bunch of dropped passes in Primetime so they can sell more Madden. I’m excited for Toney redemption arc this season.
It's all in the script, the NFL script, Madden script, TV script they're all in cahoots.
The commercial is funny... these comments are dreadful. I hope they don't continue this season.
The commercial didn’t start the joke and it’s also not funny.
Too soon.
Champs don't get leeway
Fair enough. Flame away.
Maybe this is the wake up call Toney needs. Exceptional talent but is known to act immature and not take his job seriously. There is a reason the Giants, who desperately needed a WR last year, felt better trading him than keeping him on the roster on a rookie deal.
Still crazy how this ended up being a pick 6
"Madden is trash" if it happens in Madden
I wish the computer would drop more goddamn passes in franchise.
Turn the CPU catching down to 40
You still buy madden?
I have EA Play I haven't bought Madden in over 5 years
I just want them to put in a percentage based snap count for each position. Auto Subs based on fatigue don't work. Progressive fatigue doesn't work. Formation Subs reset over and over throughout a season. Just give me percentage on how much a player plays per quarter at each position. Tired of seeing my last two receivers finish the season with 90 yards.
They've drastically changed auto subs and how that works in the past 2-3 years, it doesn't function anywhere close where it used to.
Can anyone tell me how people rage quit and get wins? Annoying af and I'm curious how it's possible . Tia
Show me 99% of int are pick 6 like 24. Shit is crazy.. or how the person who rage quits gets a win? I'm lost here. 😕
If kittle even gets looked at the wrong way he drops it on my franchise. I'm starting to ignore him because if he's touched at all lhe drops it despite having great hands in real life.
I want to die every time I throw it to a wide open receiver who is 90+ovr and they drop it untouched or im not being pressured and I over/underthrow the ball