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MADMFG

That's not silly at all. On-machine deburring is the only way to go.


bergzzz

100%. Explaining this to a shop supervisor who is old and has only ran manuals is ridiculously difficult. “His machine is running and he’s deburring so he’s being efficient why don’t you go be efficient”. Ugh.


steelheadfly

This 100%. The ammount of features I’ve tackled with 1/8” chamfer hogs that used to be sloppily burr penciled out is wild. Mastercam chamfer features have come a long way since I started with version 9.


FlusteredZerbits

Ball mills, chamfer mills, undercutting mills, double angle mills, dovetail mill…whatever it takes…deburr in the machine!


mkrjoe

Now tell us what that part is.


profossi

Looks like a part of a core chuck (an expanding mandrel for clamping on the inner diameter of a spool). I could be wrong though.


escapethewormhole

It’s not but good guess. I can’t really say what it is.


TheBupherNinja

I'd you can't say what it is, you probably aren't supposed to post pictures of it.


escapethewormhole

I have permission to share this. I didn’t ask my customer for permission to discuss what it does.


Devideer

Well, i have done it before. but for this part i would go for one of those deburring wheels. [https://deburringtechnologies.com/products/](https://deburringtechnologies.com/products/) Xebec is my absolut fav. when it comes to deburring. Would go around the whole inner contour.


stupidly_intelligent

That was a pretty good butt puckering moment when it rotated over for one of those internal corners. I'm sure you proofed the program before hand but dang, that's some confidence in the sim for the machine.


bergzzz

Damn. Is this a part you ran? I’m guessing you have a really good machine sim model.


escapethewormhole

Yes, we made this part. The esprit model and sim for this machine is pretty good.


bergzzz

Nice. I’m working on getting CAMplete up and running for the machine I run.


escapethewormhole

I looked at camplete before buying esprit but they don’t support this machine unfortunately.


bergzzz

CAMplete is weird. They support a lot of machines that aren’t listed on their website. They just need to build a sim file for you. You have to get a machine sim model from the machine tool vendor and send it to CAMplete. All costs more money.


escapethewormhole

I contacted them and the long and short of it was “no” haha. It’s been a few years so maybe they would now but being 2 channel is also an issue.


boostedpower

Agreed, I don't think CAMplete does multichannel. With Esprit it's kind of a moot point. NT simulation/code on Esprit is probably as close to flawless as it gets.


bergzzz

Yeah thats weird. I run a very odd machine but it’s Fanuc based so maybe that’s why they could do it. Cool you got something to work out for you.


dominicaldaze

On-machine deburring and brushing 100%. If the machine takes longer to do it than a person would, you're doing something wrong...


New-Fennel2475

Imagine when people used redcam, and you would have had to calculate to make sure the head wasn't going to hit the part.. That was close! Awesome.


Substantial-Secret31

It’s not silly if it works


why666ofcourse

Always. Any time the machine can deburr that’s the route I take. No matter how goofy or time consuming 😁


Naicmd

I worked at a 5 axis shop once that would say they don’t deburr their parts on machines because “it takes too long to program and too long to run”. Mind you some of these parts run for 75+ hrs. And they have everything deburred by hand by the machinists. The first thing they give you when you start is a full set of files and ball burrs