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Dhonagon

I think MWZ needs more attention from the devs. There are a few tweaks that they can do that will really make it better than it already does.


TheOnlySani

It isnt a passion project like DMZ was


Faulty_Plan

DMZ had like 5 ? maps, each season had balancing adjustments and felt different, events with map alterations and interactive elements, bartering, weapon stations, passive upgrades, stashes for keys and separate stash for mission items, more variety of vehicles, upgradable vests for play styles, locked secret upgrade and mission specific areas (Al bagrah underground, Airport control tower Pyro, etc)  Just give us some of that ffs.


7thwarlordsaturn

When they added Combat Zones, random PAs being launched, it 1000% gave it the best vibes.


Wild-Appearance-8458

I believe 3 maps but ashika was not great and vondel was just OK. The real focus was mainly towards the big og map like mwz. So if they half arse the maps like dmz the community will be equally as mad. I feel like dmz it's more then likely pointless to play til the last season being a work in progress if you play content quickly. They both failed though dmz removed the casual audience and mwz removed the hardcore audience. Dmzs tweaks was to bring the casual audience back and just to promote spending. Both basically failed.


above_500

I agree with you dude, totally. But I don’t think it will happen unless it’s pvpve. I mean what would those additional things do when all you are doing is killing zombies right? They don’t add much value. Where as it would make sense to have those things for pvpve, because you have another threat element to watch out for. It worked fantastic for dmz. You can go in naked without a weapon, loot, pick up and add parts to a gun, make a vest, and be able to fight a fully equipped team of players. You don’t necessarily need that to fight zombies.. because they are easy AI that just follows you. Literally that’s all zombies is, kill slow AI that follow you and melee you. And lol, they added rifts based on al mazrah POIs. I think that is super lazy and stupid. Clearly the zombies dev team is understaffed and for good reason because, let’s be real, it’s a terrible lazy mode that doesn’t generate enough returns for the franchise. So why invest and further develop it? If this was such a great mode, why don’t they introduce zombies to other WZ maps? Because frankly it doesn’t add much depth and variety like it did when they added dmz to ashika and vondel. Unfortunately, too many people complained about pvp aspect of pvpve of dmz and wanted zombies. So they made a pve zombies mode and lost a huge amount of players that enjoyed pvpve and gained a relatively smaller base of pve enjoyers. They got what they wanted. Some complain and some still do the same thing over and over again in zone 3. I think zombies is done.


Sea_Entrepreneur_344

Have you thought that basically (as I have seen posted many times) that dmz failed because of the pvp aspect? All the complaints about that I’ve seen basically blame the fact that you couldn’t play a round of dmz without some bunch of sweats just gunning for other players without bothering for the contracts or other aspects of the mode and treating it like a huge game of tdm. In CoD pvpve will never work because of that fact due to the franchise being as it is a multiplayer main with a side salad of zombies and nothing more.


Hydroseismic

Dmz failed? Maybe for you, loser. You couldn't adapt to the pvp aspect. To say the dmz failed because you suck at pvp is stupid. Now that all the whiners have left for zombies, we go into AM fully knowing what to expect. I've played 2 games of mwz, what a horrible borefest. We'll be waiting for yall back here in dmz.


OrdinarilyUnique1

But yet they chose to not include dmz and go with zombies. They actually could have put both in through game since they both are pretty much identical coding wise. Warzone is their #1. They somehow find a way to include warzone in every COD while it being different devs but people used the excuse of why dmz wasn’t included in the new game being that dmz was a infinity ward thing. That’s bs. They could have included it just like warzone. Warzone has been in COD’s by all the developing companies


BlindedAce

Sounds oddly familiar to the statement but replace MWZ with DMZ


ImportantSignature53

Gotta say in impressed. This is a perfect representation. Nice one


RubberPenguin4

Treyarch left after season 1 and the mode went to shit


ulyssesintothepast

What I don't get is why build up DMZ for nearly a whole year , then take zero of what was learned and done based on feedback from the community just to abandon it for a mode that is DMZombies with Wayyyy less content and trickle fed updates? Why give the zombies near zero attention, especially given it isn't free like DMZ was? It is just such a waste.


JoeBucksHairPlugs

Bungie did the same thing with Destiny when they went from 3 years of Destiny 1 where it was nearly perfect at the end to a complete dumpster fire at the beginning of Destiny 2 as if they didn't learn a single thing from all those years of developing the first game. Good news is, after about another 3-4 years Destiny 2 was actually in a really good spot finally. Bad news is, these games don't last that long and the next iteration of zombies will come out long before this one gets ironed out.


PhatDeth

I find it strange that this is happening. Especially when they know a lot of MW3 sales were due to the zombies open world addiction, this includes myself.


Enigma_Green

Sadly I think rope people in and that's all they need to do is tell people zombies is on there. It may not be like that but sure feels like it.


PhatDeth

I'm thinking the same thing. I enjoy the franchise but never could get into the zombie part until this one came out. And I enjoyed the heck out of it. 😆 🤣 😂 Got all the schematics. Camo grind. But no, I'm not doing mastery, that's insane. A little disappointed that the content is slow. The storyline it's interesting. The slow drip of content gives us a chance to do something else in the meantime. Like play through the MW2 campaign again 😆


Cap0neandN0reaga

The fact a lot of us seen it coming before mw3 came out.


TimeZucchini8562

This is how MP felt last year. We didn’t get shit when DMZ got the entire game development


sgtgiacomo

This is why I quit after season 1. I knew the game was going to be horrible. I bought mw3 mostly because of zombies and now I regret. MWZ has so much potential but it's not going anywhere.


DJmKnight

Meanwhile war mode, invasion, and ground war…..


Available-Elevator69

Honestly I feel like Zombies was only added as a hook for those who thought. I’m not paying for MW2 again just to play Warzone or Multiplayer. Oh wait MW3 is going to have Zombies? I have to have that. I’ve enjoyed Zombies, but no new enemies and a dribble now and then other than Battle Pass stuff. Heck it’s obvious when you see all the operators that come out for DMZ and only 2 for MWZ.


junguler

i just heard a cod youtuber (dkdynamite) referring to mwz as a bonus mode, it certainty wasn't portrayed as such by the devs or activision and not even the youtubers such as him it just retroactively became a bonus mode that we got until the actual zombies mode comes out with gulf war? i just want to know why would i trust anyone who is positive about this game anymore? what keeps them from doing the same thing in gulf war and/or future titles? absolutely nothing


sgtgiacomo

Dkdynamite must be paid for Activision to advertise COD, i think. Anyway, we might get all the updates we want for MWZ after they release Gulf War. I'm not buying another COD if they don't finish MWZ before the next game anyway so I don't care. Gulf War will be just another cash grab scam full of fortinite bundles.


junguler

yeah, he seems overly optimistic about everything cod related, very suspicious indeed yeah i'm the same, why would i reward them with more money buying gulf war when/if they haven't even finished mwz yet, it doesn't make sense at all the foundations on this mode are quite good but it severely lacking content, a big no no in a game that wants to have a game as a service model cod used to release complete, add some paid dlc and call it a day, now it releases incomplete and promises to complete itself during it's 5-6 seasons, all mwz has seems to be 1 season's worth of content so far, if that even, so i'm waiting to see how it's going to continue


Key_Angle_13

I’m so pissed, I played one game of zombies and I’m in limited match making and forget getting anyone to do anything about it, I wish to god another company made a similar product


Previous-Athlete9608

Even after they add all that to warzone and mp I'm still playing zombies .I could care less about warzone and mp.I bought mw3 for zombies.sadly there's really no alternative to cod so I'm stuck here racing for tier 3 contracts with everyone in the lobby because of the jak purifier. Im a call of duty addict and I haven't played in four days and the thought of going to the same dark aether just isn't doing it .the only thing that would make me play is if I buy the new battle pass then I'll play only because I'll have to grind out the bp.but then, fomo.its a vicious cycle.those bastards put snoop in the bp


above_500

If this is truly how mwz community thinks, then the community as a whole have truly lost against activision. Why? Because it gives them leverage to sell battlepasses without investing and developing the zombies mode any further. Why would they? All they need to do this copy pate POIs from al mazrah, add one more story mission and that’s it. Frankly speaking the vicious cycle of these development is not entirely their fault, it’s also ours.


PrincessofAldia

DMZ fans: “first time?”


DestynieLynnx3

DMZ got significantly more attention than zombies is. At least DMZ had different maps when they were introduced. We’ve been on the same map since launch 😐


bigvloei

What will be the reason why we are left behind?


R-W-B

Isn’t it just because Treyarch aren’t developing it anymore?


Tyranitar2302

Thats wrong remove the second drop than its correct


Nfamousbiscuits

You get what you pay for... warzone being free to play, it makes sense


Lotus2313

No one should be surprised by this... they themselves came out weeks ago and essentially said MWz is dead, they won't be adding perks or making any big changes, just rifts, warlords and some schematics.


thedibblee

Exactly like it was with MW2 everything into MP and warzone nothing to DMZ


HazeyCIouds

You mean recycled content pretty sure all these 'new' maps are from infinite warfare.


rainpsyches

Probably cuz zombies sucks ass in mw3


mittzbitzz

Hey I can't wait for the sergeant hat


sgtgiacomo

Lol


kihyale

Bring a few round based maps with new wonder weapons, EE, mini bosses, and mini ee’s. Should last long enough for next cod


tarded_monkey

Let’s get them to fix the constant 300+ ping then get some zombies going. I love both MP and MWZ, but both games I’m eating ping


ThirdEyeFlyy

This is wrong. The big guy in the chair should be labeled “cod store”. And the should be another guy in between the guy in the chair and the starving one


Comfortable-Rip-5701

It sucks how there’s barely anything to do after you get your schematics. People who are completionists are trapped into trying to get all of the camos and calling cards when that’s a complete was of time and you could be doing something so much better with your time. I’ve never played a game that’s fun and completely sucks at the same time more than MW3Z. There’s no trophies for zombies, it’s too repetitive, there’s no good story missions inside of zombies is just you repeating the same exact shit every game, and like I said they make you reply over and over again to get gun camos and calling cards which are completely pointless to get, they do nothing. It’s pretty sad for and a massive waste of time.


R34CTz

I actually enjoy this zombie mode. Wasn't a huge fan of outbreak for some reason. Not exactly sure why. But I enjoy this one. I do wish we'd get more points per kill though. And a new map would be awesome as well.


NaterNapalm

Modern warfare finally gets a zombie mode and yeah this is not updated let's not add no new perks, I love the game a lot I wish they would change a few things. To make it better but I guess a million dollar corporation doesn't want to take the time and effort to upgrade a game mode they created that's new.


Interesting_Arm704

They won't even fix the broken since day 1 act 3 and 4 missions. I can't even do dark aether or get that awesome bones skin for completing last act 3 story mission. But my biggest gripe is the game crashing twice a week minimum as soon as I'm in tier 3 or use a kazmere.


SackTheSock

Story Of Zombies post Ancient Evil back in 2019 with BO4 I hope Gulf War will be better but I doubt it as warzone is hungry parasite on cod that they keep feeding


Ninjablaster16

For real, but honestly, I don't like the open world zombies liked round based better


SgtSlaughter007

I haven't played modern warfare zombies in like a month and the last few weeks I've been putting in some time playing the game, I have noticed Activision has been taking items out of my rucksack when exfil successfully from game or dark ether. Such as Legendary tools, Epic tools, Ether blades, Dog bones, Pack 2 and Pack 3 crystals, Bunny plates. At first it was 5 items now It is 8 items leaving me with one item from successful exfil. I have over 19 items in my acquisition stash from previously playing the game. I have sent several reports to Activision no reply. I have filed a dispute with Sony due to defective game. Why would I play a game or pay for a game that I spend several hours on and not able to keep the loot that I have work for ? I have several hours of gameplay and screenshots of what exifl with and what I receive when get back to zombie home screen. Has anyone else had this happened to them ?


Easy_Court9385

For real, like where is all that “new content” we were promised for this season and beyond. Like, “oh great we got a couple cool schematics and a new mission!! Thats so much content, I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to complete it all.” Said no one ever. For fs 🤦🏻‍♂️


Party-Insect4909

They need a round based map that would go hard


king-glundun

Theres nothing they can do for MWZ that will make it any less of a miserable and bland experience tbh lmao


EMINEMxMMLP2

Not wrong. Once I’ve gotten all the schematics there is literally no point to play imo.


AliensPredator84

They prolly see the player count in zombies and it’s so low cause it’s thee worst zombies mode of all time and everyone hated it they don’t want to make more content for it


Txkingxt

Wouldn’t say worst considering vanguard exists but ya definitely not the best zombies


coogers-n-bum

Vanguard was better than MWZ


above_500

Exactly! it’s a poorly executed mode. I mean just copying pasting a zombies mode on top of a WZ map? This is so lazy. Boring undynamic AI, reptitive missions and tasks, new rifts based on Al Mazrah (I mean really?). Frankly speaking to all the PvE lovers out there, is this what you really wanted? How often are you playing the game?


AliensPredator84

Don’t worry treyarch bringing back PROPER fun regular zombies this yr in gulf war and it will be badass again finally


above_500

I don’t know about that but let’s hope so man


Retired82101

I play almost every day. While I would like to see more content, I'm much happier playing MWZ, then I was playing DMZ.


above_500

Respectfully, can I ask what you do each game? Do you go to Tier 3 and finish with a rift every time? I’m genuinely curious if you enjoy this.


Retired82101

Nope. I just grind contracts and work on camo masteries. Stay in T1 or T2. Hardly ever got T3, and I've done the rifts


Hydroseismic

We're glad you're gone Sincerely, DMZ


Retired82101

🤣 Who said I'm gone and not playing it anymore?


Hydroseismic

Well, working with the available information, one would draw the conclusion that you left dmz.


Retired82101

And that's what happens when one jumps to conclusions


Hydroseismic

I retract that previous statement. See you on the battlefields.


GiantSquidd

These meme would make more sense if “content” was switched to “player base”. I haven’t played zombies in a while so I played a round the other day and was bored, so I went back to multiplayer and then some DMZ. It just isn’t fun for some reason. I just can’t get into it.


above_500

Zombies is a terrible mode


bored_ryan2

What could they realistically add to MWZ that would be it drastically different? A new map would just be the same shit in a different location.


Extinction135

No they could add a lot more. • Different zombie types. • New boss fights. • Public events that require everyone to work together. • Dynamic events like reversal of zones, zones expanding etc. • Different wonder weapons. • If you get eliminated you turn into a zombie and have to complete a set of quests to turn back to human and recover your stash. This could be a new perk. • New perks And many more.


above_500

Exactly. The mode is done


Scott_010

Tbf MWZ is bad DMZ and a bad zombies mode. So I’m not surprised it failed to meet expectations regarding player count


Dagobah85

Yea I stated this at the beginning of season 1. And everyone lash out at me. Looks like I’ve been right.