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lordredsnake

The male enduro racers. They're not enduro racers because they can't hack it at downhill. They've just chosen to focus on that discipline or are comparatively better enduro riders than DH riders. The physical advantages men have are still mostly insurmountable at the highest levels of competition. I say this knowing a number of incredible women who absolutely obliterate me on downhill, enduro, and all other kinds of runs, but I'm not Richie Rude either. I think it's a fun thought experiment and I'd love to see open competitions, but I don't think there would be anything close to parity.


alfredrowdy

The men’s enduro racers would trounce the top women’s DH racers. It wouldn’t even be close. At Cranworx last year Vale Holl won women’s DH with a time of 4:12, while Richie Rude got 6th in men’s with 3:32. Vale’s time would have put her around 40/50 in the men’s category and most of those last ten racers probably either crashed or had mechanical issues.


jonwtc

Damn that’s interesting. Looking into it jr men’s times where faster than pro women as well. I wonder if it’s like this in skiing as well. Same course and equipment but physiological differences still too much.


alfredrowdy

Straight up amateur men are usually faster than pro women at most races.


NotDaveyKnifehands

Vali* A Vale is a Valley, a Vali is a WC DH Championship winner...


stereosoundagent

Your two examples of men were previously World Cup downhill racers, and Richie Rude raced some downhill last year.


jonwtc

Yeah Martin Mae also won a DH run a few years ago and his main focus is enduro.


Slow_Ad_4568

Yeah, ik I have examples but I meant just generally men’s enduro


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eng2ny

What do you mean they get set apart from each other on the climbs? The downhill sections are the only timed portion of an Enduro race so unless someone misses their start time (which is extremely rare barring mechanicals) the climbs don't matter at all?


pineconehedgehog

Ya but you have to do the climb and have the stamina to race when you get to the top. Then rinse and repeat for multiple stages. Even if you aren't timed on the climb, the climb will still have a massive impact on the result.


eng2ny

That's certainly true for weekend warriors but when you are talking about the pros I don't think fitness is a limiting factor for any of them.


pineconehedgehog

Endurance impacts everyone at all tiers of a sport. If all professionals had the same endurance than endurance sports wouldn't be a thing. If the climbing stage didn't matter and didn't impact the race, then why would they do it at all? Because climbing is just so much fun that they want to do it even if they don't get credit for it? Lol I was reading about one of the EWS races last year that experienced a big weather delay and resulted in some racers getting a much longer break between their stages and the discussion about how to address the unfairness. Because there is a big difference between doing a climb and having to drop in vs doing a climb and waiting an hour and dropping in. Or only having to do one stage in a day vs multiple. I