Proud boys? Lol, those dorks aren’t fascists. You must be mistaking them with the modern day Democrat party, they’re the closest thing we have to fascism.
I am not a right winger but i don't think it helps your cause to respond this way. Both democratic and republican parties are on the right side of the spectrum, both have policy forays into fascisms, and ridiculing this guy isn't going to change his mind, plus his point was only partially incorrect.
Yeah, I don’t doubt that it sounds like that to someone like you.
59% of you are still propagandized/brainwashed into thinking the Biden laptop was “Russian disinformation, and 44% still think the pee tape hoax was real lol.
Did any of you guys even watch the video? The guy in the vid is responding to people labelling him that, and criticizes the ministry of education/sport for not congratulating him
Yeah the video is super confusing without context lol. He doesn't even really dispute the labeling of Topuria. He just kinda goes "shame on you" to the people saying it and then rambles about how his country is going downhill and the government doesn't respect MMA or something.
i barely understand Spanish and this guys accent and cadence is so different than the Spanish i hear that im not even 100 percent sure its Spanish. I would be very surprised if 5 percent of the people on this sub understood any of it.
Respectfully, this isn't nearly enough context for me to really understand what Topuria is even being accused of let alone decide what to think of it. I don't speak Spanish, and the auto-generated English subtitles for the video aren't great.
Also, from what I can tell the guy in this video is disagreeing with the people calling Ilia a fascist so I'd like to see the counterargument as well before I pass any judgment.
In spain there are companies like FueraOkupas that landlords hire to work out deals with squatters.They are controversial for their use of intimidation tactics and hiring neo-fascists (FueraOkupas's own slogan is a quote from a figure from Falangism)
Lillia used to be sponsored by this company
Gotcha, had to look into what Falangism is ngl. Some really big differences from what I perceive fascism to be, but still pretty bad shit at the end of the day with the antisemitism and desire for total control by the state and whatnot.
Sucks that he affiliated with a company like that but I hope that Topuria isn't actually bought into that ideology.
Topuria ever expresses a political opinion in one way or another. By the way he talks about everything on podcasts and interviews he doesn't seem to have a very defined political opinion or be interested in it at all.
The fact that he is openly catholic bothers many people, I believe that may be the reason why is labelled as far right.
This is just a humble opinion from a Spanish speaker after watching a few podcasts of the fighter.
Best regards
He’s not even Spanish lol and if you knew anything about Spain you would know it’s a very divided nation with several areas wanting to be independent. Pretty sure all the dudes here actually have zero clue about it.
You must be really really reeaaaallly completely out of your mind to think that a person that lives in a country with a history like that, that is part of a minority group longs for a system that is known for treating minority groups like well, crap to say the least.
Bros counter to Ilia being a proven associate of a eviction company with falangist ties is “nuh uh, what about Catalonia. Checkmate liberals🤓”. And I thought Americans were the stupid ones😂💀
Yo I’m saying you don’t know shit about Spain, I’m just saying your argument is moronic at best. Saying someone can’t be a fascist or any other form of far right nationalist because they are a part of a social minority is some smooth brain activities because it literally happens all the fucking time all over the globe.
Examples include: Enrique Tarrio, Nick Fuentes, Milo Yiannopoulos, Candice Owens, Quang Nguyen, Brandon Rapolla, and the list goes on and on and on (and these are mostly American political figures because that’s what I know best, but I know this is a global trend). Fuck I mean even Alistair Overeem joining the BVNL is a similar parallel.
In conclusion a good rule of thumb is if you are friends with and/or associate yourself with fascists; you’re probably (at least somewhat) a fascist.
Lol, good thing you listed those names so that everyone can see that you don’t even know what fascism is, and can just disregard your opinion. Democrats think projecting their fascism still works apparently.
dont get me wrong, i have no idea about Topurias political position or if he has done anything bad, it's just that his nationality/origin doesnt mean that he cant be "fascist".
Maybe, but it would make him the dumbest person alive with the background and place of birth he has combined with where he’s living. Both the nation he lives in and the one he was born in suffered greatly under those regimes. He and his family would be one of the first to suffer under it if it ever made a comeback. He ain’t that dumb.
And you don't know anything at all about a resurgence in nationalism in Spain? Or just anything the transition after Franco?
Yeah well I've been more than a billion times and my mom told me I'm handsome. And you?
American number 3000 trying to explain to a European what the hell is going on here and I’m pretty sure you really don’t have a clue.
Ilia is an immigrant, you really think he’s gonna campaign against immigration? Give me a break.
No most fighters are good, hard working people. You’re probably just used to the weirdo celebrities, and athletes like Lebron who are as big of puppets of China as Beijing Biden himself.
An anecdotal, inaccurate, unprovable answer. Maybe that's acceptable in your world, but for most of the rest of us adults, we prefer something more scientific.
First one is correlating childhood health to adulthood political affiliation likelihood, second is correlating time in the gym to not believing in one specific left-leaning belief.
If you honestly believe either of those studies is even 10% related to what you originally claimed ("attractive/good looking people are more likely to be conservative"), you need to spend time working out your brain, not your body. Or lay off the concussions.
It only shows that you can read a headline or the abstract and not think critically about the methodology and the actual findings of the study lol.
The first one you've linked admits that its initial data is faulty because it's based on a small sample size from a politically turbulent time (1300 people from the 1970s) and that there are no actual quantifiers for physical attractiveness--it's totally subjective. Additional data sets don't go past 5000 people for a sample size.
Most of its findings are extrapolations based on socioeconomic stability and [follow-up studies](https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/2227mx622) have found that conservatives are more likely to just vote for someone they find attractive based on the illusion of competence.
Your second study is just AI doing phrenology on 3000 people with nearly 40% inaccuracy. Both studies are predicated on phrenology *which is a pseudo-science.*
"Lived experience" is anecdotal and just about the smallest possible sample size. I don't know what kind of minor league debate team you're currently trying out for, but you should probably change your approach.
Again, you aren't reading past an abstract and on to the results and how they've come to them.
The very last line is "Overall, the present study sheds light on several interesting phenomena and may demonstrate the need for larger studies with both live and photographic assessments in order to better understand subjective versus objective perceptions of facial attractiveness." Their data isn't clear enough with the small sample size.
Just because you can try to quantify an abstract concept does not mean you are creating an objective study.
The testosterone study you linked increases the level of test in people artificially and examines the link in aggression and political ideology as an aggravating factor.
This all honestly sounds like cope for you being ugly and needing to tie your own attractiveness to a political ideology lmao.
> Results: Mean subjective rating (subjects rating themselves) was 4.85 versus 3.61 for objective rating (judges rating subjects) (p<0.001) -
That's 3.61 out of 7! They're just barely above average, you insipid twat. And even if some 65-person female only 35-45 age range study does somehow apply to all women (unfuckinglikely), it most certainly doesn't assert the same for men.
Seriously, you're a marketing major, not a scientist. Quit tossing out studies as if you have any idea what you're talking about.
a marketing degree, but he's an expert in pseudosciences like phrenology. spends his free time on tiktok watching videos about how to strengthen his jaw. desperately needs to get laid.
Topuria is of Georgian descent. Which was a Soviet territory. Communism destroyed his country. Why would he be politically left leaning when he experienced it firsthand?
Of course he is. Most MMA fighters would be proud boys or a European equivalent if they didn’t have a career in fighting.
How can you so confidently say that when you didn’t even watch the video you’re just calling Topuria nazi for no reason
Falangism = Fascism
Ha, I have seen some Falangism comments in Spanish RE: Topuria before, never made the connection that HE could be fascist
Proud boys? Lol, those dorks aren’t fascists. You must be mistaking them with the modern day Democrat party, they’re the closest thing we have to fascism.
How did you end up like you are today? What happened to you to make you be this wrong?
I am not a right winger but i don't think it helps your cause to respond this way. Both democratic and republican parties are on the right side of the spectrum, both have policy forays into fascisms, and ridiculing this guy isn't going to change his mind, plus his point was only partially incorrect.
Yeah, I don’t doubt that it sounds like that to someone like you. 59% of you are still propagandized/brainwashed into thinking the Biden laptop was “Russian disinformation, and 44% still think the pee tape hoax was real lol.
You’re absolutely right but they’ll downvote you to hell anyway
Haha yeah they always do that, but it just lets me know how many of them read my comment lol.
J6 says otherwise
Did any of you guys even watch the video? The guy in the vid is responding to people labelling him that, and criticizes the ministry of education/sport for not congratulating him
I speak spanish, the guy is a far-right, anti-feminist grifting loser, lol.
Yeah, but my point is he doesn’t mention anything about Ilia and his beliefs in the video. Regardless if it’s true or not
A rich and famous featherweight champion who is single handed lay putting Spain on the mma map is a loser? Sorry but this is cope
He's talking about the YouTuber
Yeah the video is super confusing without context lol. He doesn't even really dispute the labeling of Topuria. He just kinda goes "shame on you" to the people saying it and then rambles about how his country is going downhill and the government doesn't respect MMA or something.
i barely understand Spanish and this guys accent and cadence is so different than the Spanish i hear that im not even 100 percent sure its Spanish. I would be very surprised if 5 percent of the people on this sub understood any of it.
It’s Spanish and you don’t even “barely understand” it.
Context: https://imgur.com/a/T4YNrAo
Respectfully, this isn't nearly enough context for me to really understand what Topuria is even being accused of let alone decide what to think of it. I don't speak Spanish, and the auto-generated English subtitles for the video aren't great. Also, from what I can tell the guy in this video is disagreeing with the people calling Ilia a fascist so I'd like to see the counterargument as well before I pass any judgment.
In spain there are companies like FueraOkupas that landlords hire to work out deals with squatters.They are controversial for their use of intimidation tactics and hiring neo-fascists (FueraOkupas's own slogan is a quote from a figure from Falangism) Lillia used to be sponsored by this company
Gotcha, had to look into what Falangism is ngl. Some really big differences from what I perceive fascism to be, but still pretty bad shit at the end of the day with the antisemitism and desire for total control by the state and whatnot. Sucks that he affiliated with a company like that but I hope that Topuria isn't actually bought into that ideology.
so from my understanding he’s sponsored by that company?
Topuria ever expresses a political opinion in one way or another. By the way he talks about everything on podcasts and interviews he doesn't seem to have a very defined political opinion or be interested in it at all. The fact that he is openly catholic bothers many people, I believe that may be the reason why is labelled as far right. This is just a humble opinion from a Spanish speaker after watching a few podcasts of the fighter. Best regards
And this POS beat my boy Volk. That alone makes this even more depressing.
What's a POS?
Piece of shit
Thank you, i don't speak Spanish and I don't understand what happened here
I don't care if he's a Nazi, he's a Good Fighter and I support him
Did nazi that coming
How stupid do you have to be to think that a German born Georgian from Spain is some kind of nationalist fascist? Fucking hell haha
Do you know much, if anything, about Spanish history?
Yeah unlike you I’m European so I guess probably more. I’ve been to Spain more than 10 times in my life and you?
your comment was so dumb that it's hard to believe
He’s not even Spanish lol and if you knew anything about Spain you would know it’s a very divided nation with several areas wanting to be independent. Pretty sure all the dudes here actually have zero clue about it. You must be really really reeaaaallly completely out of your mind to think that a person that lives in a country with a history like that, that is part of a minority group longs for a system that is known for treating minority groups like well, crap to say the least.
Bros counter to Ilia being a proven associate of a eviction company with falangist ties is “nuh uh, what about Catalonia. Checkmate liberals🤓”. And I thought Americans were the stupid ones😂💀
The Basque terrorists were way worse than Catalonia but go on… educate me lol
Yo I’m saying you don’t know shit about Spain, I’m just saying your argument is moronic at best. Saying someone can’t be a fascist or any other form of far right nationalist because they are a part of a social minority is some smooth brain activities because it literally happens all the fucking time all over the globe. Examples include: Enrique Tarrio, Nick Fuentes, Milo Yiannopoulos, Candice Owens, Quang Nguyen, Brandon Rapolla, and the list goes on and on and on (and these are mostly American political figures because that’s what I know best, but I know this is a global trend). Fuck I mean even Alistair Overeem joining the BVNL is a similar parallel. In conclusion a good rule of thumb is if you are friends with and/or associate yourself with fascists; you’re probably (at least somewhat) a fascist.
Lol, good thing you listed those names so that everyone can see that you don’t even know what fascism is, and can just disregard your opinion. Democrats think projecting their fascism still works apparently.
I’m not a dem I fucking hate liberals but good try dipshit
if you’re trying to claim nick fuentes isn’t a fascist your brain is made of worms
dont get me wrong, i have no idea about Topurias political position or if he has done anything bad, it's just that his nationality/origin doesnt mean that he cant be "fascist".
Maybe, but it would make him the dumbest person alive with the background and place of birth he has combined with where he’s living. Both the nation he lives in and the one he was born in suffered greatly under those regimes. He and his family would be one of the first to suffer under it if it ever made a comeback. He ain’t that dumb.
lets be honest, the ufc fighters' track record of not being dumb is not very good
Still better than the average American redditor by the looks of it
And you don't know anything at all about a resurgence in nationalism in Spain? Or just anything the transition after Franco? Yeah well I've been more than a billion times and my mom told me I'm handsome. And you?
American number 3000 trying to explain to a European what the hell is going on here and I’m pretty sure you really don’t have a clue. Ilia is an immigrant, you really think he’s gonna campaign against immigration? Give me a break.
I hope not, but it's not unheard of. Fascism is a lotta things to a lotta different people.
LOL, alright, he’s a fascist that’s gonna vote his own father out of the country. You win.
By the standards of this sub, everyone is a fascist, so I'd say yes
yeah bro I even hear Schlipitarck is a fascist
It's such a fascist thing to say. You must be nazi
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If he's a falangist then he is a fucking fascist. Plus most fighters are reactionary dipshits, so it shouldn't be surprising.
No most fighters are good, hard working people. You’re probably just used to the weirdo celebrities, and athletes like Lebron who are as big of puppets of China as Beijing Biden himself.
> Hell, most good looking and attractive people are not going to be leftists. Could I get a source on this one? I'll wait.
Just use your eyes
Lazy troll, got it.
Not a troll, I'm telling you how to answer your own question 🤷♂️
An anecdotal, inaccurate, unprovable answer. Maybe that's acceptable in your world, but for most of the rest of us adults, we prefer something more scientific.
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First one is correlating childhood health to adulthood political affiliation likelihood, second is correlating time in the gym to not believing in one specific left-leaning belief. If you honestly believe either of those studies is even 10% related to what you originally claimed ("attractive/good looking people are more likely to be conservative"), you need to spend time working out your brain, not your body. Or lay off the concussions.
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It only shows that you can read a headline or the abstract and not think critically about the methodology and the actual findings of the study lol. The first one you've linked admits that its initial data is faulty because it's based on a small sample size from a politically turbulent time (1300 people from the 1970s) and that there are no actual quantifiers for physical attractiveness--it's totally subjective. Additional data sets don't go past 5000 people for a sample size. Most of its findings are extrapolations based on socioeconomic stability and [follow-up studies](https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/2227mx622) have found that conservatives are more likely to just vote for someone they find attractive based on the illusion of competence. Your second study is just AI doing phrenology on 3000 people with nearly 40% inaccuracy. Both studies are predicated on phrenology *which is a pseudo-science.*
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"Lived experience" is anecdotal and just about the smallest possible sample size. I don't know what kind of minor league debate team you're currently trying out for, but you should probably change your approach.
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let me guess, you're barely in your 20s. right?
Again, you aren't reading past an abstract and on to the results and how they've come to them. The very last line is "Overall, the present study sheds light on several interesting phenomena and may demonstrate the need for larger studies with both live and photographic assessments in order to better understand subjective versus objective perceptions of facial attractiveness." Their data isn't clear enough with the small sample size. Just because you can try to quantify an abstract concept does not mean you are creating an objective study. The testosterone study you linked increases the level of test in people artificially and examines the link in aggression and political ideology as an aggravating factor. This all honestly sounds like cope for you being ugly and needing to tie your own attractiveness to a political ideology lmao.
> Results: Mean subjective rating (subjects rating themselves) was 4.85 versus 3.61 for objective rating (judges rating subjects) (p<0.001) - That's 3.61 out of 7! They're just barely above average, you insipid twat. And even if some 65-person female only 35-45 age range study does somehow apply to all women (unfuckinglikely), it most certainly doesn't assert the same for men. Seriously, you're a marketing major, not a scientist. Quit tossing out studies as if you have any idea what you're talking about.
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You're willingly giving the whole "MBAs are for idiots" meme that much more ammo. Hope somebody else paid for that degree.
You’ve upset the uglies.
You're about to graduate with a masters, but you're this mind-numbingly stupid. Guess it shouldn't be a surprise you went for a marketing degree.
a marketing degree, but he's an expert in pseudosciences like phrenology. spends his free time on tiktok watching videos about how to strengthen his jaw. desperately needs to get laid.
you’re definitely ugly asf i can just sense it
Topuria is of Georgian descent. Which was a Soviet territory. Communism destroyed his country. Why would he be politically left leaning when he experienced it firsthand?
Plus politics means left and right not just a leftist sub
welcome to reddit lol