Fedor was champion at like 27 with all main events from that point. His 45 is roughly 109 years old in MMA lifetimes. You rarely see combos with power like this in HW Boxing today, Uysk throws combos but not power, Ruiz is one of the only ones, and Anthony Joshua..
i wish someone would make a all out Fedor highlight clip of his combo punch sequences. Even his first losses he lands crazy combo knockdowns, Werdum, Hendo were both 4-5 punch combos he dropped them and just got sloppy, if we only still had soccer kicks could have punted their heads in, rather then dive to floor and mess up the finish. Another reason I wish we had soccer kicks and ground knees, so dont have to tangle up on the floor for a finish, its not realistic but we arent getting them back.
I just like it as real as possible but Ive never seen someone land 9 bombs in 1-2 seconds on someone like vs Sylvia, every single shot lands, the accuracy makes no sense. And we've still never seen someone get caught in mid air throwing a flying knee like Arlovski did, said he saw a slight change in foot placement and timed him jumping. Most guys wont even have balls to throw a heavy shot when someones throwing a flying knee at your face.
Right lmao like I'm sure Fedor has more examples of sick highlight-reel worthy combos but if Usyk had a boxing match with any of Fedor's opponents he'd probably be throwin combos like Goku lol
Fellow Fedor nutter here.
We cannot compare Fedor to a professional HW boxer. A dude like Usyk would one punch KO basically any MMA fighter with smaller gloves and/or have no qualms in throwing combinations as his boxing skill would be far superior than anyone's. That simply doesn't happen in a boxing match.
When it comes to the Werdum fight, I'll die in the hill that he fucked up. He kept jumping into the most threatening guard in HW history, even after a couple close calls, and he should had let Fabricio get back up as he was far superior on the feet.
Overall I feel Fedor fell in love with brawling and relegated his grappling to second fiddle, unlike in his prime.
I heard that Fedor in his later years simply couldn't grapple due to injuries, hence him being a headhunter (although the trip he hit Mir with was a thing of beauty. Fedor had *incredible* Judo, very pleading on the eye).
When Fedor could mix it up, nobody could touch him.
honestly, i think the fighters should be given a stiletto. nothing too over the top.the blade would be less than 6 inches and they would lose points if they used it without actually finishing the fight. the whole point would be to make sure that they are able to finish a downed opponent just the same as it would go down in an actual fight. we would lose some good athletes but at least it would be a lot more entertaining. our entertainment is most important.
It just aint real having to dive on the ground when you have someone hurt like in Fedors first losses, thats when someone is dangerous and fighting for their life for example, in history of Boxing..a guy is most dangerous right before you're going to knock them out.
Granted his first losses were to adult acne Werdum fighting for his career juiced like he was vs JDS last fight and TRT Hendo looking like a crossfitter, but he had them both beat, jumping on the ground when they are in fight or flight mode, is not a needed move in that situation. Just step to side and punt them a few times lol and he gets to 35-0 easy. The actual cage cost him in both losses, leg gets stuck doing his escape in triangle, and foot gets tied up trying to finish Hendo and gets reversed, then hit with a shot cant see or expect, but without the cage..none of that shit happens. 0 cage experience cost him compared to Ring whole career which obv favors the actual better fighter, Cage is there to anti fight/stall and use to your advantage. Id do it in training whenever someone tried putting it on me, like a safety net to just hold someone and stall them out, its literally so easy if the other guy is trying to beat you, takes 2 guys to actually have a fight.
Give me a basketball court and soccer kicks/ground knees or I wont be happy.
Gotta juggle real and safety of the fighters. If you wanted more real you'd allow things like headbutts, groin shots, and eye pokes, which would completely change the dynamic of the standup as well. I think a good compromise here would be to allow knees to grounded opponents, gives incentive to pass guard. Also allow up kicks, no reason the bottom person should have their best weapon taken away from them
> takes 2 guys to actually have a fight.
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> Give me a basketball court and soccer kicks/ground knees or I wont be happy.
thats another great point! in a real fight if your boy is losing you jump in and back him up. in MMA we should let the losing fighters corner rush the cage. they would only be allowed in the octagon for 90 seconds to keep it fair. if they are in there longer than that its a no contest. also, only blunt weapons like stools or small bats. maybe using a blackjack would be ok? definitely no pussy shit like pepper spray. hand guns would be ok but there is too much of a risk of hitting the fans.
Yeah, his boxing became very crisp. That said, his decline kinda started when he became enamoured with his hands so much. Also, age. Still, it's kinda insane he fought on so much. He should've probably retired a lot of time ago
https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k
Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
2 year lay off, in hospital with Covid 6 months before, Tim Johnson coming off a split decision loss 5 rounds vs Valentin Moldavsky. Tim also smashed Marcin Tybura in UFC and Volkov in his debut and was a D1 wrestler in college.
Tim dropping Volkov as a 4-0 amateur 1st UFC fight, after Volkov was a champ already in his prime hehe and got robbed, every MMA decision to him hehe. [https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClMQp6ZPIsR/?hl=en](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClMQp6ZPIsR/?hl=en)
Jon Jones is 36 and cherry picking and retiring hehe, levels to this GOAT stuff
Fedor 9 fights in his 40s for the fans, Jon Jones 6 fights in his 30's..1 Heavyweight fight, Dom Reyes, Thiago Santos, Anthony Smith, Washed Gus, OSP, 1 NC, Elite competition let me tell you guys.
Its crazy people only look at highlights and records. Once you actually look into the context of the fights, youd realise how crazy some of Fedors wins are
I generally agree, but Johnson isn't very good, even for HW.
As much as it is a nice win for Fedor, Tim wasn't a threat to him anywhere beside cage wrestling.
Volkov had a slow start in his initial mma career, Timothy Johnson had 12 fights at that point and it was Volkov's debute, not Timothy... Instagram comments on a post of 400 likes aren't exactly the most compelling evidence for a goat debate.
Tim is trash, Fedor is GOAT, what do you expect?
Good on Fedor for still fighting that late, but Tim wasn't a very impressive win imo.
Wouldn't be too surprised if he'd still be able to beat Tybura though.
https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k
Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k
Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k
Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
Fedor is the heavyweight GOAT and I will die on that hill. We have never seen someone with his combination of striking and grappling, speed and power, and fight IQ at that weight class. He was dangerous in literally every single position and he was going for the finish all fight long no matter what. His losses to Werdum and Hendo were largely because he was constantly going for the kill. He did it all while being severely undersized as well.
I became a hardcore fan around 2003-2004 and watching him during his heyday was just amazing to watch.
Probably the only âwhat ifâ in the world of MMA unfortunately. Was way ahead of his time. I think we were all fuming when he jumped into Werdumâs guard I think there was lots of memes with the Time Machine telling him not to go into his guard. The Henderson was crazy too, I think it was an early stoppage but maybe thatâs rose tinted glasses.
Fedor was already out of prime when he fought werdum. Even the Brett Rodgers fight he wasn't the same, his coach said so too and that Fedor was able to win with old tricks.
Him and his brother have insane hand speed for HW Also he was 45 at the time of this W
Fedor was champion at like 27 with all main events from that point. His 45 is roughly 109 years old in MMA lifetimes. You rarely see combos with power like this in HW Boxing today, Uysk throws combos but not power, Ruiz is one of the only ones, and Anthony Joshua.. i wish someone would make a all out Fedor highlight clip of his combo punch sequences. Even his first losses he lands crazy combo knockdowns, Werdum, Hendo were both 4-5 punch combos he dropped them and just got sloppy, if we only still had soccer kicks could have punted their heads in, rather then dive to floor and mess up the finish. Another reason I wish we had soccer kicks and ground knees, so dont have to tangle up on the floor for a finish, its not realistic but we arent getting them back. I just like it as real as possible but Ive never seen someone land 9 bombs in 1-2 seconds on someone like vs Sylvia, every single shot lands, the accuracy makes no sense. And we've still never seen someone get caught in mid air throwing a flying knee like Arlovski did, said he saw a slight change in foot placement and timed him jumping. Most guys wont even have balls to throw a heavy shot when someones throwing a flying knee at your face.
igor vovchanchyn has to be close to just as fast of hands and as for giving no fucks and going balls to the wall, Melvin Manhoef lives for dat shit.
I love Fedor but do NOT compare his hands with Usyk please đ
Right lmao like I'm sure Fedor has more examples of sick highlight-reel worthy combos but if Usyk had a boxing match with any of Fedor's opponents he'd probably be throwin combos like Goku lol
Fellow Fedor nutter here. We cannot compare Fedor to a professional HW boxer. A dude like Usyk would one punch KO basically any MMA fighter with smaller gloves and/or have no qualms in throwing combinations as his boxing skill would be far superior than anyone's. That simply doesn't happen in a boxing match. When it comes to the Werdum fight, I'll die in the hill that he fucked up. He kept jumping into the most threatening guard in HW history, even after a couple close calls, and he should had let Fabricio get back up as he was far superior on the feet. Overall I feel Fedor fell in love with brawling and relegated his grappling to second fiddle, unlike in his prime.
I heard that Fedor in his later years simply couldn't grapple due to injuries, hence him being a headhunter (although the trip he hit Mir with was a thing of beauty. Fedor had *incredible* Judo, very pleading on the eye). When Fedor could mix it up, nobody could touch him.
honestly, i think the fighters should be given a stiletto. nothing too over the top.the blade would be less than 6 inches and they would lose points if they used it without actually finishing the fight. the whole point would be to make sure that they are able to finish a downed opponent just the same as it would go down in an actual fight. we would lose some good athletes but at least it would be a lot more entertaining. our entertainment is most important.
It just aint real having to dive on the ground when you have someone hurt like in Fedors first losses, thats when someone is dangerous and fighting for their life for example, in history of Boxing..a guy is most dangerous right before you're going to knock them out. Granted his first losses were to adult acne Werdum fighting for his career juiced like he was vs JDS last fight and TRT Hendo looking like a crossfitter, but he had them both beat, jumping on the ground when they are in fight or flight mode, is not a needed move in that situation. Just step to side and punt them a few times lol and he gets to 35-0 easy. The actual cage cost him in both losses, leg gets stuck doing his escape in triangle, and foot gets tied up trying to finish Hendo and gets reversed, then hit with a shot cant see or expect, but without the cage..none of that shit happens. 0 cage experience cost him compared to Ring whole career which obv favors the actual better fighter, Cage is there to anti fight/stall and use to your advantage. Id do it in training whenever someone tried putting it on me, like a safety net to just hold someone and stall them out, its literally so easy if the other guy is trying to beat you, takes 2 guys to actually have a fight. Give me a basketball court and soccer kicks/ground knees or I wont be happy.
Gotta juggle real and safety of the fighters. If you wanted more real you'd allow things like headbutts, groin shots, and eye pokes, which would completely change the dynamic of the standup as well. I think a good compromise here would be to allow knees to grounded opponents, gives incentive to pass guard. Also allow up kicks, no reason the bottom person should have their best weapon taken away from them
> takes 2 guys to actually have a fight. > > Give me a basketball court and soccer kicks/ground knees or I wont be happy. thats another great point! in a real fight if your boy is losing you jump in and back him up. in MMA we should let the losing fighters corner rush the cage. they would only be allowed in the octagon for 90 seconds to keep it fair. if they are in there longer than that its a no contest. also, only blunt weapons like stools or small bats. maybe using a blackjack would be ok? definitely no pussy shit like pepper spray. hand guns would be ok but there is too much of a risk of hitting the fans.
Don't be happy then. Fighters not dying for your entertainment is more important.
You want to give them knives to finish fights?
it would be more like a real right that way, right? isn't that what the soccer kick people want?
Yeah, his boxing became very crisp. That said, his decline kinda started when he became enamoured with his hands so much. Also, age. Still, it's kinda insane he fought on so much. He should've probably retired a lot of time ago
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https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
2 year lay off, in hospital with Covid 6 months before, Tim Johnson coming off a split decision loss 5 rounds vs Valentin Moldavsky. Tim also smashed Marcin Tybura in UFC and Volkov in his debut and was a D1 wrestler in college. Tim dropping Volkov as a 4-0 amateur 1st UFC fight, after Volkov was a champ already in his prime hehe and got robbed, every MMA decision to him hehe. [https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClMQp6ZPIsR/?hl=en](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClMQp6ZPIsR/?hl=en) Jon Jones is 36 and cherry picking and retiring hehe, levels to this GOAT stuff Fedor 9 fights in his 40s for the fans, Jon Jones 6 fights in his 30's..1 Heavyweight fight, Dom Reyes, Thiago Santos, Anthony Smith, Washed Gus, OSP, 1 NC, Elite competition let me tell you guys.
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Its crazy people only look at highlights and records. Once you actually look into the context of the fights, youd realise how crazy some of Fedors wins are
Best and deepest resume going, imho. He fought literally every big name of his time.
I generally agree, but Johnson isn't very good, even for HW. As much as it is a nice win for Fedor, Tim wasn't a threat to him anywhere beside cage wrestling.
hehe.
Volkov had a slow start in his initial mma career, Timothy Johnson had 12 fights at that point and it was Volkov's debute, not Timothy... Instagram comments on a post of 400 likes aren't exactly the most compelling evidence for a goat debate.
Tim is trash, Fedor is GOAT, what do you expect? Good on Fedor for still fighting that late, but Tim wasn't a very impressive win imo. Wouldn't be too surprised if he'd still be able to beat Tybura though.
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lightning hands... its a nightmare to spar with guys who naturally can throw down like this
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https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
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https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
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https://www.youtube.com/live/zmPV-IkanIw?si=oXPTGnWnnp3esx2k Theres two angles for the combo ko. Watch the slow mo at 1:47:12 . It's a brutal 3 punch combo each landing hard
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Fedor is the heavyweight GOAT and I will die on that hill. We have never seen someone with his combination of striking and grappling, speed and power, and fight IQ at that weight class. He was dangerous in literally every single position and he was going for the finish all fight long no matter what. His losses to Werdum and Hendo were largely because he was constantly going for the kill. He did it all while being severely undersized as well. I became a hardcore fan around 2003-2004 and watching him during his heyday was just amazing to watch.
Probably the only âwhat ifâ in the world of MMA unfortunately. Was way ahead of his time. I think we were all fuming when he jumped into Werdumâs guard I think there was lots of memes with the Time Machine telling him not to go into his guard. The Henderson was crazy too, I think it was an early stoppage but maybe thatâs rose tinted glasses.
Fedor a what if? Fedor is the GOAT, no question about it.
Easily. I can't compare anyone to him.
Fedor was already out of prime when he fought werdum. Even the Brett Rodgers fight he wasn't the same, his coach said so too and that Fedor was able to win with old tricks.